Or an award....I was thinking you're my hero, this is brilliant! I never would have thought to do that, it's an easy way to test filter flavor.

And the test was noot conclusive for me since he didn't clean the spoon between the 3 water tests and also since he didn't took a piece of bread in between to neutralise the previous experience. It is sure that tasting filter no 3 with a sppon that was plunged already in water no 1 and 2 it altered the taste . Netherlland company should complain . James , if you ever come to Montreal ,go to the district called Le Plateau . You will loved it . It is made for peoples like you . You will fit in the second you 're in .

... This is how you brew coffee in a regular coffee pot. Coffee filters are hardly a new thing.

"Not unpleasant actually"

@@Nicolas-zb9uw there are cuts inbetween, usually most tastetests cut the palletcleanse Part as it doesnt Provide any benefit to the viewer. I'm sure as a pro he knows how to taste stuff correctly 😅

Maybe it's becoming his muscle memory :D

I'm actually a bit disappointed he didn't do a blind on those paper filter cupping

Lol

Yea but the filter holes size are different on both filters.

@@jaimep3432 That's pretty much what he's saying. Denser fibers means smaller "holes" in the paper.

and describe it with "...not unpleasant actually.."

Because it is entirely reasonable to do so if you're approaching coffee from the perspective of an expert. The same way you'd design science experiments with independent variables, coffee can very well be viewed as a science with its own investigations and complexity. And just because coffee can easily be seen as a mundane and accessible commodity to everyone else, doesn't mean you should belittle the study of it either.

One of us ONE OF US

@@allykessler7742 I think the question may have been rethorical...

This affects us all...

Welcome to the club!

It's amazing how little things become part of your routine once you've done it thousands of times

As a barista I too must adjust my sweater after rinsing my stir spoon, it’s just part of the process

Lol

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I heard that it can improve the extraction

that's interesting, most coffees i buy are from costa rica or ethiopia, and i always use the 2nd version cuz its easily available on amazon for a good price. Whenever I buy kenya coffee it doesn't taste as good, maybe thats the reason

Thank you. Very interesting on the varietals. I have been doing V60 for about 2 years now. At first I had the #1 filters, but I was a novice at doing pour overs. At most other times I had the #2, as they were less expensive and still made in Japan. At some point I ordered the #3 on Amazon not realizing they were different. I had extremely long brew times and thought I needed to coarsen my grind. I think the filter was the only issue. I went back to the #2. Just this week I ordered the boxed version original again, and I have to say I notice an improvement over the #2, enough that I would spend the extra $. I will experiment with the lighter coffees to see if #2 tastes better on those coffees. I just made a natural process from Onyx on the #1 and I could REALLY pick up the tasting notes.

Serve nescafe

Do you think the 2. factory may have gone over to using the Dutch recipe?

@@highonbanana8265 I don't think they would have gone down the route of using the same recipe, but humidity and the process of making these filters may be playing a part in this. I just checked this and zebitz is totally right; it's softer on the inside. But with the first Japanese filters, they were also softer so that should result in it taking less time per brew-- at least I'd assume so.

That's what you do with your time?

So you are also here doc, :'D Btw yang di plastic bag yang mana yg bikin nambah brew time? Yang plastic bag yg terakhir? Kalo itu, saya setuju. Pake yang tabbed filter itu bikin brew time saya nambah 30 detik - 1 menit hahaha. Kalo plastik yg ditengah ga terlalu beda sama yg di kotak kog :D

well hello doc

Greetings from fellow Indonesian

Kalo sy pake yg 100 tinggal kasarin 1 atau 2 titik aja gilingannya, jd kecepatan aliran airnya bisa sama dgn yg 40. Tp jujur aja, sy ga bisa ngebedain perbedaan rasanya antara 100 dan 40..

Using 40 pack vs 100 pack filter is different? Am i undestanding this correct?

thank god i'm not the only one who really enjoyed that lmao

Are you sure it's the filter? I'd say it's almost always the grind if it's the same coffee.

I second !

Patrick McMullen Yes, I was confused there wasn’t even a mention of them apart from the fact that “You can get them.”

Yeah, not only did he not include a tasting of the unbleached filters, but also: 1. He did not include plain water as a control 2. He did not do it as a blind tasting 3. He did not cleanse his palate between each tasting 4. He did not rinse/wipe his spoon between each tasting 5. He did not do a tasting of the coffee brewed with each filter

I would like to know as well since the brown unbleached are the only v60 filters my local coffee shop sells.

@@robbw727 1) He probably knows what the water he drink every day tastes like. You also don't know that he didn't have a sip before tasting. Why would he include that in the video though? Maybe you're right but you can't know that. 2) Did it need to be blind? Is there a particular bias you think he needed to overcome? 3) There are cuts between each tasting. You don't know that he didn't. 4) There are cuts between each tasting. You don't know that he didn't. 5) Yeah, that could have been useful to hear but we already know that any of these papers can make good coffee right?

I did not actually time mine but I'm having to grind coarser to speed up the "other factory" filters

JBZ...you need to do a blind tasting...unlikely you'll be able to consistently taste a difference. Or test by using a french press, no paper at all.

​@@deevnn still kinda weird that he includes them in the start, but doesnt use them in the experiment. Maybe he already concluded that there is no difference. either way its odd and he should've said why he didnt include them.

Thanks for pointing it out. Quite frustrating as the unbleached are the only option available in my market

I experienced the same. Went back to the ones from Japan.

Drink nescafe

@@Vanguardkl nescafé gold is a great instant coffee. edit: you’re just a troll and your opinion is irrelevant.

@@Vanguardkl 😂

It seems James is consistently adverse to anything natural or pro-environment. Even pro health haha.. Fair enough. It may be that these other options in his universe of expertise simply are inferior to his tastebuds. After all, he likely strives to be a no compromise guy when it comes to his expert assessment of products and methods. Maybe for this reason, ecology, health, climate, etc. doesn’t seem to factor into his presentations. Hence don’t expect any assessments of unbleached papers.

@@larssorenson9916 Unbleached papers aren't any better for you than bleached. If you are worried about it, then probably shouldn't use paper at all. I'm assuming the unbleached papers have the potential to extract more flavor from the paper itself.

@@larssorenson9916what are you on about? You're not saving the environment by using unbleached papers, that's just greenwash. Even if they are marginally better for the environment (I highly doubt that since bleaching paper isn't even close to being the biggest culprit of emissions in the production process), your 100 papers aren't doing anything effective to save the environment. Unbleached papers have a strong papery taste, he explains this in his other videos. If you don't mind all your coffee tasting papery or you can't taste it, use them; but don't think for a second its anything more than a personal preference. If you really want to be environmentally conscious, you wouldn't be using paper filters to begin with. You'd either be using an immersion brewer like french press that uses no disposable filters at all, or be using a re-usable filter material like cloth. Even then your contribution to the environment would be negligible, individual action can not and will not save the environment; not when the biggest polluters are commercial entities that are not affected by your coffee filter choice. All you're achieving with individual action is a massive ego boost.

It would be useful to repeat the test again to see if the results are similar

Exactly the point. If your gonna taste the paper with just water then you will taste it with your coffee u less you don’t give af.

Same here

@@jameshoffmann The tabbed Japanese filters seem to allow more fines to travel down to the bed instead of trapping them in the fibers of the filter wall. I think this can contribute to greater differences if the grinder used produces a lot of fines. I assume you're using an EK and would therefore see a much less pronounced effect on overall brew times than other grinders. Great topic for a video. Thanks!!

@@jameshoffmannthese tabbed ones from Japan have been extremely slow for me. Have you tried more than one? Every now and then it drains fast, but most of the time it's super slow. 4:00 - 4:30 finish when it used to be done by 3:00.

Trust me you are

i’m glad you live in a superior central american country; and not in those poverty-ridden, gang-infested, prostitution-filled, corrupt and violent countries like hoduras, nigeragua, and el salvadork

It's the Jameshoffmanniest of videos. Paper taste testing!

Which do you prefer if you had easy access to either and if not would it be worth extra hassle to get the one you preferred?

I know! I thought that was really the final goal?

@@edinburgh8021 He's testing the flavor they add, how much they do / don't.

Joe Niccoli which all boils down to what does it do to the coffee. I don’t understand the validity of this without drinking the coffee.

I think it would be a difficult comparison, do you taste based on standardized grind setting or standardized brew time? I'd predict standardizing brew time via adjusting grind setting would provide the most consistent taste, but then an extra variable has already been introduced.

Me too!