You do not make a case for the Mustang II NOT being the worst Mustang ever. Yes it did "carry the torch" but in the worst way.

I disagree with you saying that modern Mustangs owe their existence to the Mustang II, it’s not like that car saved or built the Mustang brand as the Fox body platform was gonna come out in 78’ regardless if there was a Mustang II or not and look at Camaro for example Chevy skipped a generation from 2002-2010, Ford could’ve done the same thing with the Mustang II discontinue it from 74’-78’ then bring it back with the Fox body.

​@@Fbarts yiu want pinto as our modern mustang then better shut uo

A Mustang badged Pinto wasn't needed .. just like other muscle car brands, the Mustang would have come back.

No it didn’t nobody buys or even has mustang 2’s for sale commonly my sn95 and the two latest generations are the most common not including the 2024 s650. Making 3 generations the most popular the foxbody is like the 4th most popular nobody wants a mustang 2 that thing sucks.

My mom had a 69 Mustang Grande with fake spoke hubcaps and a rack on the trunk👎 this car should definitely be on your list!

The 68 Mustang GT Fastback looks pretty damn good bro (the car the Bullitt mustang was built from). I think the point made here was that the modern adaptation/homage was all show and no go. Hence why its on this list. I hope you didn't really unsubscribe for that reason. That would be dumb.

It’s just a green mustang dude chill 😂 and like he said the s550 version isn’t faster than the normal gt it’s just a aesthetic package that’s about it

The main complaint is the name and how it has zero reflection of its heritage. It would be like porsche calling the Cayenne a 911 Turbo. Just to give rise to popularity for an untested product. Porsche owners are already elitists. Do you have any idea what the enthusiast reaction would be if that happened? Porsche stocks themselves would plunge over the controversy. Ford just needed to call it something other than a "Mustang". Hell, they can even call it a Mach-E. Just leave the "Mustang" name out of it. Does anyone at all give a single crap about the modern Mitsubishi Eclipse? No. It can be called a "crossover" for political correctness if they want. But the truth is, no one cares about that car anymore. Mitsubishi took an iconic FWD Turbo sports coupe and turned it into a broing soccer mom car. That's why all the mustang enthusiasts are unhappy with the Mach-E, and why I call it the "E-stang". Bottom line is this car is an imposter. The Eco-boost mustang is more of a mustang than this dog pile. Numbers don't lie. People don't really want this thing. Only people who would never buy a mustang want this car. The gear heads are staying far away. Cheers.

@@christopherlowery855the Mach-E makes the Pinto-Stang look out-fucken-standing

The weakness of the Mustang has always been the rear end. That is, until the 6th gen, when they finally added rear independent suspension and an LSD. Before then, you had open diff live axles. Couple this with thin tires, high HP numbers, and low driving skill, and you have yourself a long list of crowd hunters. The car itself is pretty reliable and cheap to fix. Where people could could seriously improve their driving experience is by putting fatter tires on the GT model, possibly above that. If you're pushing more than 350hp on a 4th, or 5th gen, you'd better have something like some 265-305 tires on the back. If you're riding stock tires even with 300hp, it'll be a slip-n-slide back there. These cars have tons of torque, which means ample wheel spin. Add to this the car's tendency to understeer, and you have an unresponsive pony that likes to go sideways. Since this car is cheap, a lot of inexperienced drivers get behind the wheel and try to go fast. It doesn't end well most of the time. Luckily, the mustang community consists of all walks of life due to its long standing heritage. As a result, not everyone who drives a mustang is curb-plowing hothead. Therefore, I wouldn't say the car is bad, just that it's driven by people with below average IQ. At least when captured on camera. There are mustangs all around me on the road and I feel much less safe around a Dodge Ram than any Mustang I get near. Likewise, I rarely see one on stranded on the side of the road unless its 20yrs old or older. Cheers.

Nah, the Mach-E is clearly the worst; Pinto-Stang is still bad tho

@@zsu-23-4shilka2 A Pinto isn't a Mustang, and neither is a Mach-E ... some Ford Marketing dudes ain't so bright.

Any camaro will outrun any mustang any day.

​@@pixelnazgul2023 Roush Mustang vs 2013 Camaro LS... That Camaro is dusting that mustang. Lol.

@@christopherlowery855 Is not lol.

What tf ? Smh

Yeah, no. I call nonsense. The classic Mustang enthusiasts I know could write the history of cars. At least cars from that era. Pretty much every one of those cars. Up to and including every tiny variation between years. Examples are a trim piece here, a body line there, a tail light, or lense color, etc.. They are also walking encyclopedias of all of the engines, the firing order, the distributor point gaps, etc. Not to mention they know all the back stories about how a specific emblem got on a vehicle, or why one was removed. Your comment could not be more wrong. You may want to specify the age of the mustang owners you're talking about. The mustang is owned by almost every walk of life. From the grandma (know one personally who drives a 6spd GT) to Ken Block. The blanket statement that people who drive mustangs don't know the history of cars completetly dismisses the history of cars. Cheers.

I don't understand what this comment is even saying.

I would, yeah. Its the first model that had good handling and actually felt like a track car. At least the GT Premium does. The V6, its a good daily. The GT Premium has a 6spd manual and 21" wheels that are 265mm wide. Plus, the car has an LSD and traction control. At WOT in 2nd, the rear will still slip even with TC on, but its very controlable. Because of its weight and high range torque curve, the car feels like it has turbo lag at high speed (60-90mph) Just look out for that IMRC valve on the intake. It will fail eventually. Ford's solution is to buy a new intake. Ouch. Happy hunting. Cheers.

@@christopherlowery855 thanks 🙏

Sounds like you & your friend should avoid her at every opportunity & _especially_ when she’s drunk off of said mimosas.

Your friend's grandma should lookup something called "Changan Ford". The Mach-E is produced by them as well. All the car companies are "communist" these days. If she wants to buy an American EV, she should buy a Tesla. They're manufactured in the Gigafactory in Austin, TX. Among other US locations. I personally oppose both. I just found the cognitive dissonence amusing. Cheers.

While I agree with you, most of the downsizing of the engines comes from political dictates and the EPA's shifting emissions standards. For X sized car, car must emit X amount of emissions. This is why cars keep getting bigger and why we no longer have a small truck market. Tiny cars must meet tiny emmissions. These days, those figures are getting too lopsided. This is why you see full sized sports cars with tiny I4 engines. Its to meet emissions. The whole system is trash. That's why I haven't bought a new car... Ever (poor in my youth, not interested now) The unshielded turbos ties in with the polymer intakes, valve covers and oil pans. Its all to crank out the cheapest car that lasts just as long as the warranty. All while the marketing department makes these rolling trash piles look sporty, fast and offroad capable. Which, a lot of them are, just not for very long. In short, much of your well deserved cretique has less to do with engineering and more to do with money and politics. It sucks, I know. This is why I have a fondness for tube frame cars these days. Big power, dangerous as hell, and stupid simple. Sounds like a real good time. Just watch out for other drivers out there. The Roush Mustang is liable to become an endangered species in the near future. Overcrowded by flocks of EcoBoost and Mach-E mustangs. Gross. Cheers.

@@christopherlowery855 Best explanation ! Thanks ! I would buy a 1960's truck with 3rd pedal manual transmission when my Roush is paid off. I wouldn't sell her if offered cash $1 Million USA Dollar if you want to know why I would tell you. 👨🏻👍🏻🏎🏎🏁🏁🚩🚩