The Winners and Losers of the 2021 NBA Draft | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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2 жыл бұрын

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo and Kevin O’Connor to break down which teams had the best and worst selections coming out of draft night.
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@nf2203
@nf2203 2 жыл бұрын
KOC the real MVP of this draft.
@JohanLWill7_
@JohanLWill7_ 2 жыл бұрын
No
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship 2 жыл бұрын
No
@Yourcousinjoseph
@Yourcousinjoseph 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@goatnuts69
@goatnuts69 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@OffTheBallNetwork
@OffTheBallNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
KOC gotta shake his head sometimes when Bill and Ryan talk nonsense
@apolloforabetterfuture4814
@apolloforabetterfuture4814 2 жыл бұрын
He's thinking damn my bosses are a little leprechaun and a bald baby
@Crazimir
@Crazimir 2 жыл бұрын
@@apolloforabetterfuture4814 To be fair, Bill's hardly short at 6'1
@Lark921
@Lark921 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crazimir ain’t no way he’s 6’1! My mind is blown
@thejeangenie100
@thejeangenie100 2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool that Ryen can do podcasts while incarcerated
@hockeyfan1799
@hockeyfan1799 2 жыл бұрын
KOC also looks to be in prison lmao
@oldman9924
@oldman9924 2 жыл бұрын
4...3...2... QUE THE RYEN RUSILLO LIVES IN A DUMP JOKES
@bookaufman9643
@bookaufman9643 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldman9924 I didn't know other people noticed that. It looks like he's in a suburban holding cell. Ryen s just a weird dude
@thejeangenie100
@thejeangenie100 2 жыл бұрын
@@hockeyfan1799 bill looks like he's in the wardens office
@nickflick1194
@nickflick1194 2 жыл бұрын
Can y'all just let Kevin O Conner talk😂 He is the only one who doesn't say wild shit.
@HCaulfield115
@HCaulfield115 2 жыл бұрын
But that why I listen to Bill’s podcast whenever Ryan comes on.. entertaining nonsense
@n5446813
@n5446813 6 ай бұрын
Great to rewatch
@ChrisbeFoSerious
@ChrisbeFoSerious 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest Winners: 1. Houston Rockets (Jalen Green, Alperen Sengun, Josh Christopher, Usman Garuba). 2. Charlotte Hornets (James Bouknight, JT Thor, Kai Jones, Scottie Lewis) 3. Orlando Magic (Jalen Suggs (steal) & Franz Wagner (versatile) 4. Warriors (Jonathan Kuminga & Moses Moody (both value steals) 5. Detroit Pistons (Cade Cunningham (no brainer), Luka Garza, Isaiah Livers, Balsa Koprivica 6. LA Clippers - Keon Johnson, Jason Preston
@hugojimcam136
@hugojimcam136 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, as a warriors fan I'm hyped with our steals. Kinda wish a trade could have gone down but two steals prolly worth it, also both have value in case of trade at later date especially kumingas potential.
@flyingblind5677
@flyingblind5677 2 жыл бұрын
@@hugojimcam136 Hornets fan here, I think it goes rockets, Warriors, then Charlotte. Moses and Kuminga are massive steals at those spots
@704charlottebound3
@704charlottebound3 2 жыл бұрын
My charlotte Hornets did good got a big win in this draft.
@rossjn9885
@rossjn9885 2 жыл бұрын
James Bouknight looked visibly pissed he had dropped in the draft and will have a HUGE chip on his shoulders to prove his value. Getting Kai Jones as well was icing on the cake.
@chuckjokic4557
@chuckjokic4557 2 жыл бұрын
All they had to do was not draft kispert to make me happy lol
@JayMcd91
@JayMcd91 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@michaellindley5832
@michaellindley5832 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossjn9885 don’t forget JT Thor, very lengthy and athletic with big shooting potential
@edgarramirez747
@edgarramirez747 2 жыл бұрын
It seems they are serious about winning now and for Kai Jones playing with lamelo was his best case scenario and bouknight being a 6th man to potential dynamic back court partner is great
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Porter Jr is a huge piece of there future. KMart, Tate, and all those young guys. Rockets have a bright future 🤘🏾
@neilsmith9066
@neilsmith9066 2 жыл бұрын
Until he is caught driving around with an illegal loaded firearm again 😅
@ErroneousMonk1
@ErroneousMonk1 2 жыл бұрын
They can’t play and develop all those guys.
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErroneousMonk1 Gleague and on the actual squad. Give time to all the players to develop
@ErroneousMonk1
@ErroneousMonk1 2 жыл бұрын
@@paul19519 Okay, fine. Put everyone but Green in the G League. There just aren’t enough minutes to go around. So you’ll have the same team as last year that lost more games than anyone else, but with Green on the court with them.
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErroneousMonk1 whatever you say bro. Either way they have a bright future. I’ll choose to be positive 🚀
@OfficialJPryde
@OfficialJPryde 2 жыл бұрын
Please just let KOC talk, Ryen & Bill are outta their depth
@AreolaGrande94
@AreolaGrande94 2 жыл бұрын
Russillo doesn't really know what he's talking about w/ Kevin Porter Jr. Yeah, the Rox were a mess this year. That had almost nothing to do with KPJ. He was brought up from the GLeague way later in the season and was really good in his short time in the NBA, and while Jalen Green was ballin out, showcasing his talents on the Ignite team, KPJ was actually leading the league in scoring with 7 rebounds and 7.5 assists. He's shown he can run the offense, averaged >7 assists on the Rockets with a team around him that had no idea how to put the ball in the basket. He needs to cut down on his turnovers, but he is very much in line to run PG after they somehow move John Wall. He's not the only guy that is a roster lock, either. Jae'sean Tate is the best do-literally-everything role player that no one knows about because he's on Houston, and Kenyon Martin Jr. as a versatile rotation big that can score in multiple ways if needed but play elite defense 1-4 and swallow rebounds. Lastly, people just love to run with nonsense stories and run wild. Wood "is all about himself" ? Based on what? He's consistently only ever talked about how appreciative of Houston he is that they thought that highly of him after being tossed around by various teams. All the negative press he gets is really just a player that assumes a 'cornerstone' role of a rebuilding franchise and is frustrated by losing so much. AKA he's human. This does not = he's a drama queen and problem in the locker room. All those guys are tight.
@JoseLopez-yx4et
@JoseLopez-yx4et 2 жыл бұрын
You sound hurt.
@idontknowgabe
@idontknowgabe 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoseLopez-yx4et no, they sound like they actually watched rockets games unlike russillo
@R.B.90
@R.B.90 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not reading all that but I get the idea. Hope you know dudes put up numbers on tanking teams all the time. If you fall for those empty stats your a sucker. Heck we had like 3 of those guys on my Raptors thus year the last month of the year. But I know better. There's a reason they on the court when we're tanking.
@AreolaGrande94
@AreolaGrande94 2 жыл бұрын
@@R.B.90 Tanking teams? I was comparing stats in the Gleague. I was noting that people were impressed that Green was putting up 18 ppg against a lot of near-NBA level competition while KPJ was leading the GLeague in scoring @ 24 points with 7 reb and 8 assists when he was called up. I get it sometimes 2-3 paragraphs is too much for some people, but where you went off on tanking teams and empty stats and all that... idk. Just worry about why your team took a "project" poor man's Boris Diaw without the offensive game and passed up on a future potential cornerstone PG days before you were gonna trade Lowry away.
@lahdopa
@lahdopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@AreolaGrande94 kpj threw soup at the assistant coach in Cleveland I don’t think russillo would say all that if he didn’t feel confident that there’s some glaring issues there u have to be a blind rockets fan to not see some bad signs
@rossjn9885
@rossjn9885 2 жыл бұрын
Usman Garuba & Alperen Sengun are going to be the next Domantas Sabonis & Myles Turner, offensive/defensive frontcourt pairing.
@canhimself
@canhimself 2 жыл бұрын
Shit, great comparison.
@20plum
@20plum 2 жыл бұрын
Both are smaller, and the shooting would be flipped, but a good idea. Too bad the original pairing is so difficult to build around.
@reyking4330
@reyking4330 9 ай бұрын
Jajajajajaj
@ebukaiwuagwu9371
@ebukaiwuagwu9371 4 ай бұрын
LMFAOOOOOOO
@braxtonthartabrig
@braxtonthartabrig 2 жыл бұрын
Charlotte to me, is the winner of the draft....had potentially one of the best scorers fall to 11 in Bouknight, a lob threat and potential flood spacer at the 5 with Jones and in Thor, a young, long strong defender who can grow to be the best defender on a team
@siircartiier
@siircartiier 2 жыл бұрын
they also got plumlee who’s a solid big man
@davidbarber3821
@davidbarber3821 2 жыл бұрын
Mitch Magic
@safe3220
@safe3220 Жыл бұрын
welp
@illijah
@illijah 2 жыл бұрын
Charlotte did great
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like bouknight as a prospect. His ceiling is very similar to colby white, only brings scoring and no elite sharpshooting
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship 2 жыл бұрын
@@alextan7130 did you watch UConn ?? He can shoot but other teams threw defenders at him so he shot contested shots. He’s a baller. Jordan Clarkson low side, Lavine upside
@jemhilaire6621
@jemhilaire6621 2 жыл бұрын
@@alextan7130 I disagree
@flyingblind5677
@flyingblind5677 2 жыл бұрын
@@alextan7130 bad take, he’s the perfect running mate alongside Melo
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSportsandFilmFellowship 6th man of the year low side? Nah that’s a great case scenario for bouknight
@thebigwagyu
@thebigwagyu 2 жыл бұрын
Keon Johnson is a guy who going to be much higher on a lot people’s list when we redraft this class
@rossjn9885
@rossjn9885 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just worried he'll struggle behind the depth of guard/wings on the Clippers.
@MrRacecar200
@MrRacecar200 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossjn9885 with Kawhi out this season, Ty Lue is gonna be able to experiment with our picks a bit hopefully. I have faith in the coaching and development team to be able to manage the time we’ll
@78Ford351
@78Ford351 2 жыл бұрын
Highly agree. Ty Lue has no problem playing youngsters. Should be no problem giving him space to develop. Look at T Mann going crazy in the playoffs.
@somersetbassett4580
@somersetbassett4580 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that. He seems talented, it can be hard to develop while trying to win. Spurs somehow did it 🤔
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
Very good potential from Keon, athletically nba elite
@tombystander
@tombystander 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone listening to this before 2022 draft?
@erdemm17
@erdemm17 14 күн бұрын
Before 2024 🫨
@chuckjokic4557
@chuckjokic4557 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this
@cxrlitosway
@cxrlitosway 2 жыл бұрын
Masai's going to prove everyone wrong
@KobaniacMinded
@KobaniacMinded 2 жыл бұрын
Again
@cxrlitosway
@cxrlitosway 2 жыл бұрын
@@KobaniacMinded They never learn
@KobaniacMinded
@KobaniacMinded 2 жыл бұрын
@@cxrlitosway he's underpaid imo he's really a genius I wish lakers would have hired him
@juju-vl7oj
@juju-vl7oj 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe , if it were most other gas that picked Barnes over Suggs when the roster probably needs a starting guard then I'd say it was a bad move, but Masai has such a good history I always assume he knows what he's doing now. But top 10 draft picks are extremely hard to predict there's a few top 10 busts every year, he could be wrong this time.
@tyrion9999
@tyrion9999 2 жыл бұрын
I was shocked by it, but maybe Ujiri and Webster saw something about Suggs no one else did ... rumour is Barne's workout was great and Suggs was underwhelming
@iwannatalktosampson5852
@iwannatalktosampson5852 2 жыл бұрын
Hornets are winners . Getting bouknight & kai jones to add to that young core is crazy
@chas_post23
@chas_post23 2 жыл бұрын
Rockets had a great draft but they are still going to struggle on defense for a few years. I do like a lot of players on the team though and they’re sneaky deep. Green, Sengun, Garuba, Porter, Wall, Wood, Tate, Martin, and Christopher. Just need to improve on defense and get a PG of the future.
@nawfsideshoota9778
@nawfsideshoota9778 2 жыл бұрын
KPJ is are PG of the future
@aepr84
@aepr84 2 жыл бұрын
@@nawfsideshoota9778 healthy Wall could avg 12 apg with all those shooters
@Flamerunner451
@Flamerunner451 2 жыл бұрын
As a Thunder fan I'm pissed at how great of a draft they had lol. I wanted both Sengun and Garuba and we could've had either
@chas_post23
@chas_post23 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flamerunner451 Yeah when I was watching live I was so confused why the Thunder didn’t just take Sengun. We’ll see how it turns out but I think Presti might have made a mistake. Hopefully for OKC it will go there way in the long run.
@Flamerunner451
@Flamerunner451 2 жыл бұрын
@@chas_post23 my only guess is that he sees him as another Kanter. But I don't really know what his plans are for C this season cause all we have is Derrick Favors at the moment lol
@s.shephard8547
@s.shephard8547 2 жыл бұрын
russillo awkward af when others talkin
@apolloforabetterfuture4814
@apolloforabetterfuture4814 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Cavs are huge winners in the zoomed out sense, they have a such a talented roster at every position with Mobley now. He can play every possession with the ball in his hands and he has talented offensive players around him.
@aryang2794
@aryang2794 2 жыл бұрын
Right like the fact they got mobley means they might be able to keep sexland together their only issue is also keeping jarrett allen and everyone else cause theres gonna be a lotta people wanting money in that 5 of garland sexton okoro mobley and allen
@VArsovski10
@VArsovski10 2 жыл бұрын
Don't they have like a thousand bigs (kinda like Mavs) already ?, I mean I guess he's a good player high pick and all that but still Can't help but feel that overabundance of bigs is an issue that one can hardly get out of in today's game
@wooskionehundred1788
@wooskionehundred1788 2 жыл бұрын
Still have no shooters.
@samfreeman1974
@samfreeman1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@VArsovski10 yh but Allen and Mobley are the only ones for the future.
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
@@VArsovski10 Mobley though isn’t a traditional big
@gilfordmccormack8140
@gilfordmccormack8140 2 жыл бұрын
As a Knicks fan I don't have no complaints from the draft they made a lot of calculated moves. They acquired assets and made three solid selections in the draft.
@davidbarber3821
@davidbarber3821 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Akaya7777
@Akaya7777 2 жыл бұрын
Funniest part about this is Draymond literally told the owner to draft Kuminga and Moody before their pick even came up and they didn’t even think he’d fall to him.
@luislopez3787
@luislopez3787 2 жыл бұрын
bald dude BUGGIN!!! KPJ is definitely part of our Future
@alanmartin1
@alanmartin1 2 жыл бұрын
What on earth was up with Russillo for the first 2 mins of this video?!
@lilv3966
@lilv3966 2 жыл бұрын
Came here for this comment.
@joshruiz809
@joshruiz809 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for his Uber eats
@ihavenopantson.
@ihavenopantson. 2 жыл бұрын
Looked like he set his alarm for 5 mins before the pod so was still trying to find a draft review page and his wife was asking if he wants a coffee or water
@HCaulfield115
@HCaulfield115 2 жыл бұрын
“Stay away from Turkish Hash” 😂😂😂
@Zizook
@Zizook 2 жыл бұрын
After what the raptors did, I think they got a future all-star true point forward without anyone realizing it. And in today's Nba, every championship team has had at least one. But their super rare because you can't teach a small forward or PF how to be a guard. Point centers are even more rare because that combination is hard to even happen naturally.
@griffinwalker823
@griffinwalker823 2 жыл бұрын
congratulate yourself for this one curtis
@KainZC
@KainZC 2 жыл бұрын
we need to find this dude Devin O'Connor
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship 2 жыл бұрын
They can get Chet or Paola next draft. Pair them with Jalen, Josh, KPJ and KJ Martin
@2160michael
@2160michael 2 жыл бұрын
Jalen Rose claimed his momma (not daddy, his daddy was absent) invented the name Jalen…. Power move I can’t believe every Jalen on earth is named after Jalen Rose
@marcobonilla5605
@marcobonilla5605 2 жыл бұрын
Right bro that shit is crazy
@motastic1714
@motastic1714 2 жыл бұрын
I thought GSW did great. I get the whole win-now mode, but the key is the health of Klay and the growth of Wiseman. If those happen, i think loading up on future stars could do them solid since Steph could play for quite a bit longer and contribute for a while.
@alexsnowden3291
@alexsnowden3291 Жыл бұрын
kind of funny to re watch this
@the3rdsplashbrother258
@the3rdsplashbrother258 2 жыл бұрын
KOC... the next "from analyst to GM" guy???
@joeimmorlica3911
@joeimmorlica3911 2 жыл бұрын
His first two moves would be to give max contracts to Killian Hayes and Mo Bamba. 😂
@Anthonyfpm20
@Anthonyfpm20 2 жыл бұрын
I think the idea of the Spurs losing their draft touch is a bit unfair. This pick was a surprise to all, but I think they still know what they are doing. They took Keldon Johnson two years ago with the 29th pick and he is arguably a top 5 player in that draft.
@ericmausbach1808
@ericmausbach1808 2 жыл бұрын
Rockets won 7 in a row after Harden trade, then Wood got hurt, and missed a lot of games. They made a conscious decision to tank, because OKC owned their pick if it dropped below 4....They're not that bad. Got a lot of talent...they just need to find a way to rid themselves of Wall and Gordon.
@patrickmatthews8191
@patrickmatthews8191 2 жыл бұрын
Im curious on who will trade for Wall and Eric Gordon?
@freddyb3380
@freddyb3380 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmatthews8191 they may have to waive them... ...but they could and should trade Danuel House
@nealmcmahon8534
@nealmcmahon8534 2 жыл бұрын
Give us more Rewatchables!!
@hugojimcam136
@hugojimcam136 2 жыл бұрын
as a warriors fan I'm ecstatic with what we were Able to do. I mean I would have liked a trade the picks but our picks were amazing. Kuminga falling was huge and surprising but moody was a even bigger surprise. personal I would like to keep one and trade the other but both are valid.
@somersetbassett4580
@somersetbassett4580 2 жыл бұрын
The depth the Ws have is pretty badass. I like our top 12 guys! May be a reason to trade some of them but if we roll with what we got, it'll be fun. Summer league should be good too, Manion, new 2, Wiseman maybe, Poole probably won't go, did in Australia? I'm stoked 🤗
@shinbu121
@shinbu121 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that everytime the Rockets is mentioned on every podcast/sports show no one is mentioning the potential of Tate and how he can be a really good glue guy. I'd be happy to have him as a 3rd/4th option on my team any day. He fits with anyone as well and can play 1-4
@seanhalfcourt
@seanhalfcourt 2 жыл бұрын
Detroit Pistons are massive winners. Addition of cade at first overall, Isaiah Livers falling in the second round, Luka Garza is an intriguing pick at 52, and adding all of those pieces to the solid young core that they already have makes the Pistons future just look brighter and brighter.
@benjacoby7370
@benjacoby7370 2 жыл бұрын
gotta agree with Ryan here... there is not enough evidence that shows that Beal is truly pushing for an out... but at the same time, there is zero percent chance that Beal woke up today and said "wow, now we are moving in the right direction"... zero... and again, whom in their correct mind would rather have the picks taken vs Westbrook... everybody is always so down on Russ, but the run to make the playoffs was more about Russ than it was about Beal from my perspective...
@briangenshaw1194
@briangenshaw1194 2 жыл бұрын
Mobley: *goes 3rd with potential to be the best player from this draft* Bill: “I think the days of big men going in the lottery are over.”
@Jacob-bh8mq
@Jacob-bh8mq 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Rockets
@myselfmyself3872
@myselfmyself3872 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@wilishness
@wilishness 2 жыл бұрын
The draft is such a guess.. I feel like OKC going with Giddey is huge! Lamelo ball was the last ROY in the NBL and look how he’s looking… Giddey broke his triple double record and he’s 18.. 6’8 pg that can do everything.. imagine him at 21?! He’s a child and been killing adult pros for years
@KingofMemphis
@KingofMemphis 2 жыл бұрын
Wish the best for Giddey. He'll be good but we can't necessarily use the success of LaMelo as a gauge for what Giddey will do.
@dillonmurdock2037
@dillonmurdock2037 2 жыл бұрын
Really tough pod for Bill
@Jambit2550
@Jambit2550 2 жыл бұрын
Duarte on the Knicks would’ve been a top 5 selling jersey lol
@nbryan512
@nbryan512 2 жыл бұрын
Facts washington heights would be litt
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Chet Holmgren or Paola are going number one next year!! They are both bigs. Then after that the big from France is going number 1 or Jalen Duren. They are going to run the next couple drafts
@user-hp2sb6ch4u
@user-hp2sb6ch4u 2 жыл бұрын
Spurs making me want to end it all…also Ryan is on the nose with that Turkish hash comment 😮‍💨
@nuniemiliano7897
@nuniemiliano7897 2 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with it?
@Crazimir
@Crazimir 2 жыл бұрын
@@nuniemiliano7897 strong af + addictive
@sebeku2
@sebeku2 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Presti is Danny Ainge 2.0
@TheAliasGaming
@TheAliasGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand the Ringer's video decision making. They post 26 minutes of a 53 minute podcast, but leave out the ending ~third where both KOC and Russillo are both dying of laughter. Would've loved to see that. Anyone only watching this video, check out the pod just after the woj vs shams talk. From that point on it's just goofy lmao. Russillo breaks in a way I haven't really heard.
@lobodolo
@lobodolo 2 жыл бұрын
wheres the rest?
@TheAliasGaming
@TheAliasGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@lobodolo there’s no video for the rest of it, as far as I can find (despite the fact they record all of it). You just have to listen to the rest as a podcast. It IS funny stuff tho.
@venod3134
@venod3134 2 жыл бұрын
KOC solo would work. Rockets had a beast draft for sure. But Cade will be a star.
@somersetbassett4580
@somersetbassett4580 2 жыл бұрын
As a Warriors fan I'm happy with the draft. Moody seems like a plug and play guy as Klay comes back, he can learn the movement stuff and play D. Kuminga has upside and well see. Both could be trade assets and if they are, then they still got guys slotted to be off the board. Watching Toronto since they drafted Siakam 2.0, looks that way from afar at least.
@user-qb6vv9qm1c
@user-qb6vv9qm1c 2 жыл бұрын
siakam 2.0 lol, barnes at 19 is a better ball handler and playmaker than siakam, much much more potential
@somersetbassett4580
@somersetbassett4580 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-qb6vv9qm1c Siakam is overrated af imo. I'm hoping the W's don't trade Wiggins plus for him. Please no!
@jan279
@jan279 2 жыл бұрын
Unless the Kings are planning to trade Fox or Haliburton, then the Davion Mitchell pick totally makes no sense.
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@zampy8706
@zampy8706 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does if he was the best player on their board. You don’t draft for fit when your as bad as the kings you draft talent and see where it goes. Drafting for fit makes you take ayton over luka. Or drafting Bagley🤢🤢
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
@@zampy8706 lol but davion Mitchell was not even close to the best player available he’s an old undersized guard who has 2 bad shooting seasons and then one good season, and his highest selling point his defense isn’t gonna be as effective because he is 6 feet tall lol
@alextan7130
@alextan7130 2 жыл бұрын
@@zampy8706 keep in mind Mitchell is only about a year younger than dearon fox and shot 64 percent from the free throw line
@neilsmith9066
@neilsmith9066 2 жыл бұрын
The balled headed guy loved Mobley at the #1 or #2 pick now that Cavs picked him they don't even mention him. Trust me it doesn't matter how many players you pick its the right player.
@haringeyhawksbasketballclu3999
@haringeyhawksbasketballclu3999 2 жыл бұрын
'Woods is about himself' based on what....him not staying in Detroit? Cant be based on anything at Rockets and he ewas damn near unknown before. Random assassination ffs
@revan3841
@revan3841 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what was that all about? Never heard anything about his character or how he is as a teammate. Weird.
@sugu8403
@sugu8403 2 жыл бұрын
Scottie Barnes has insane upside, Suggs was the safe pick but Barnes easily has the most upside.
@gdawgs101
@gdawgs101 2 жыл бұрын
Keep telling yourself that lol
@sairam7669
@sairam7669 2 жыл бұрын
Most upside is jonathan kuminga. And as of now its a bad pick :).
@feelsgoodman420
@feelsgoodman420 2 жыл бұрын
Raptors are idiots. They treat the 1st round picks like it's the 2nd round. We need a guard. Kyle's old(possibly gone) and Fllyn//fred cant carry this team
@cxrlitosway
@cxrlitosway 2 жыл бұрын
@@gdawgs101 Suggs needs the ball in his hands to be efficient. They already got FVV, Flynn, Trent Jr, Pascal....Barnes is the answer to small ball, you'll see.
@heronok240
@heronok240 2 жыл бұрын
I do think that Barnes has a lot of great skills for sure and has a nice upside but is he the next type of future superstar player? I mean if he develops a better jump shot, that would be great especially with a very talented development program in Toronto. I still feel like Raptors should’ve gotten Suggs cause of the fact that he is also a potential to be a great player and is a better fit too especially with Lowry most likely leaving. We will see who won in a couple years
@IXCANADATV
@IXCANADATV 2 жыл бұрын
Well This Video Didn't Age Well 💀
@alexroth9197
@alexroth9197 2 жыл бұрын
Russillo at the beginning looks like he forgot what the show topic of the day was, and began maniacally scrolling through all the draft picks
@somersetbassett4580
@somersetbassett4580 2 жыл бұрын
Not a Spurs fan, but I trust the organization too.
@bobcatch102
@bobcatch102 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is how they say Orlando gets unlucky every year but this time they are convinced that the Magic got lucky. How about if Scotty Barnes turns out to be the better player? It's not like Scuggs is head and shoulders above Scotty. I read that Orlando and OKC had Scotty rated ahead of Jalen. I like Jalen Scuggs as a player but I think Scotty is just as good.
@KingofMemphis
@KingofMemphis 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of the debate between those two guys is groupthink. The media pushed Jalen being the better prospect but teams have a much better gauge and perspective.
@lordmegatron4789
@lordmegatron4789 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really upset that indiana drafted somebody that's gonna be basketball old in 5 years when Moses was still on the board
@pjhoops8637
@pjhoops8637 2 жыл бұрын
Primo is gonna be special!!
@ChewyFlacko
@ChewyFlacko 2 жыл бұрын
Draymond texted Bob Myers to draft Kuminga & Moody
@hugojimcam136
@hugojimcam136 2 жыл бұрын
Actually? I mean as a warriors fan I'm hyped with our picks
@ChewyFlacko
@ChewyFlacko 2 жыл бұрын
@@hugojimcam136 same. I’ll be at the Vegas summer league watching all our young players
@hugojimcam136
@hugojimcam136 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChewyFlacko hell hea good luc hopefully u see some special
@thereaper5560
@thereaper5560 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChewyFlacko when is the summer league?
@ChewyFlacko
@ChewyFlacko 2 жыл бұрын
@@thereaper5560 Warriors are playing in Sacramento California classic Aug 2-3. Vegas Summer league Aug 8-17
@timadamson3378
@timadamson3378 2 жыл бұрын
Why does Rusillo look like Butters whenever someone else is talking?
@esistdieZaubermaus
@esistdieZaubermaus 2 жыл бұрын
So tell me why exactly does Presti not just keep Sengun? Those 2 picks they got for him are heavily protected anyway, and that kid just won the MVP as an 18 yr old in one of the best basketball leagues outside the NBA. I mean he's not a sureshot offcourse, but getting a promising young prospect at 16 who actually could fit in pretty good with your young team? Are they collecting picks JUST to eventually trade them away for 1 or 2 stars? If you wont keep a player like Sengun at 16, who IS he going to keep? Would have loved to see him play along Poku, Dort and SGA
@lorca3421
@lorca3421 2 жыл бұрын
Might be telling that teams that could use a center, like the Kings (with Bagley not working out and Holmes maybe leaving), Hornets, Spurs, Wizards and Thunder all passed up on him. I also read a lot of scouting reports that see him as a Enes Kanter-type of player. The type of player you can get in free agency for cheap. Maybe Sengun will pan out, but he needs to improve in a lot of areas (defense, speed/explosiveness, shooting) before he'll be anything other than a fine post-player.
@Nick-zl5xf
@Nick-zl5xf 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Holiday making the wiz a double winner lmaoooooo
@20plum
@20plum 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh. Love Holiday, and he's a really good kid, but... Some people just haven't seen the Pacers play lol (not that they gave a reason to watch last year)
@Nick-zl5xf
@Nick-zl5xf 2 жыл бұрын
@@20plum not saying he doesnt have the potential to be a decent backup PG with the right situation and coaching, but Indy he’s been a streaky shooter, an abysmal defender and a subpar passer
@TheDrunkLawyer
@TheDrunkLawyer 2 жыл бұрын
The Bill Simmons Padcast
@seamusmooney1308
@seamusmooney1308 2 жыл бұрын
Bill talks about getting centers for cheap but doesn’t mention Mobley or Barnes at 3 and 4
@rossjn9885
@rossjn9885 2 жыл бұрын
Bill is NOT a draft guy or trade-offseason guy, more of a great personality and basketball historian.
@Random-Stranger
@Random-Stranger 2 жыл бұрын
I think the implied qualifier for his argument is that unless it's a consensus foundational center in the top 10, no center should go in the first round. There's a huge gap between Mobley/Barnes and the rest of the other centers in the draft.
@lel9422
@lel9422 2 жыл бұрын
he said unless it is an all nba type of talent, which mobley is
@seamusmooney1308
@seamusmooney1308 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish he covered them there because it was the case where super skilled big men went early
@JD-jc8gp
@JD-jc8gp 2 жыл бұрын
Orlando is such a big winner that they drafted a guy (Suggs) who they themselves ranked below the previous pick (Barnes). Sarcasm intended.
@blakkshultz5
@blakkshultz5 2 жыл бұрын
Rusillo and Simmons are dopes!!
@fearnomantrig6813
@fearnomantrig6813 2 жыл бұрын
Garuba the steal of the draft played in the best european league and played against men.
@samjackson3940
@samjackson3940 2 жыл бұрын
Why can’t you put the whole podcast on. You lied to us bill about the ringer not changing under Spotify. I miss the full podcasts. Thanks for selling your company and changing.
@frankpoleski5423
@frankpoleski5423 2 жыл бұрын
Lol oh now i feel like perk
@Yungneptune300
@Yungneptune300 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin porter can actually play idk what ur talking about
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly KPJ can ball.
@jonv1776
@jonv1776 2 жыл бұрын
@@paul19519 He is also a nut case. lol
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonv1776 lol he was young. He has matured
@neogeo2027
@neogeo2027 2 жыл бұрын
@@paul19519 Sarcasm?
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
@@neogeo2027 naw. He has matured though. John Lucas have done wonders for the young men.
@Xmj202
@Xmj202 2 жыл бұрын
POST THE WESTBROOK TAKES !
@zechwilson5934
@zechwilson5934 2 жыл бұрын
Houston Charlotte Pistons Clippers Warriors
@TheGreenProspective
@TheGreenProspective 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously Celtics are the winners and if they don't turn out to be winners it's because of Kyrie. Lifetime winners stamp, approved.
@michaelsledge3904
@michaelsledge3904 2 жыл бұрын
Porter is definitely trade bait for the future. If they can get a young 3 and D ball handler its a wrap
@blakkshultz5
@blakkshultz5 2 жыл бұрын
Porter impacted this draft for the Rockets on so many levels u wouldn't understand. They are building with him and Green in mind
@nireedrakeford3549
@nireedrakeford3549 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin porter jr is a rising star, a combo guard who they got for basically nothing. Fire whoever trades him immediately !!!
@dearmas9068
@dearmas9068 2 жыл бұрын
KPJ will be out of the league by the age of 25.
@bigdaddy2429
@bigdaddy2429 2 жыл бұрын
The celtics deserve everything of this point guard nightmare after how they did Isaiah Thomas
@patty4ktrey861
@patty4ktrey861 2 жыл бұрын
Kpj dropped 50 on jrue holiday yet hes not apart of houstons future? 🤣
@JonathanMerlinSymmank
@JonathanMerlinSymmank 2 жыл бұрын
Dropped 50 on the champs!
@dearmas9068
@dearmas9068 2 жыл бұрын
Because he will get himself booted from the league by the age of 25
@patty4ktrey861
@patty4ktrey861 2 жыл бұрын
@@dearmas9068 because he wasnt cool with giving tauren princes bum ass his locker right 🤣🤣
@dearmas9068
@dearmas9068 2 жыл бұрын
@@patty4ktrey861 that's not what will do it. No. Probably not. But that was never the actual problem. Hes been arrested twice since he was drafted for violence, drunk driving, drugs, missuse of a firearm, and more violence. There are several other allegations that he didnt get arrested for because hes an NBA player including beating up a woman when he was drunk at a club. Then theres the time he violated COVID protocols within a month of arriving in Houston with one of his team mates. They went to a strip club together, and KPJ picked a fight with a bunch of dudes and got his team mate beaten up. Then theres all the stuff from his college days that is just as bad, which is why he dropped so far in the draft... That kind of thing is more likely to be the reason he will be gone before long. But, ya know... the locker room hissy fits (more than one BTW) dont help either...
@patty4ktrey861
@patty4ktrey861 2 жыл бұрын
@@dearmas9068 the story about the club is completely wrong the way u described it go look up what actually happened… and whatever hes a 20 year old, kobe and rose prlly did much worse LMAO
@sahilchawlaa
@sahilchawlaa 2 жыл бұрын
Josh Giddey
@trinityclark1895
@trinityclark1895 2 жыл бұрын
The hawks had a top 3 draft IMO jalen Johnson and sharif cooper two lottery type talents watch out I’m just sayin!
@fastkarr8256
@fastkarr8256 2 жыл бұрын
@Trinity Clark Cooper was never going to be a lottery pick, and he can’t play on the floor with Trae in the post season.
@Dave-nm8uf
@Dave-nm8uf 2 жыл бұрын
@@fastkarr8256 He doesn't have to.
@jamesk1245
@jamesk1245 7 ай бұрын
KOC needs Russillo checking his d***a** anti-chemistry takes Every Podcast. I love it. THANKYOU RYEN. Love this.
@aliabinassif9221
@aliabinassif9221 2 жыл бұрын
Really bad houston takes from dude on the right
@Joshua3.33
@Joshua3.33 2 жыл бұрын
Detroit Pistons won the draft
@smacky101
@smacky101 2 жыл бұрын
yeah they always be winning the draft.. shame that never translates to regular season or God forbid the post season
@thereaper5560
@thereaper5560 2 жыл бұрын
@@smacky101 😂😂
@KingofMemphis
@KingofMemphis 2 жыл бұрын
This recap reiterates how little the talking heads in sports actually know about teams and players. It's funny these guys are assigning grades but don't know half of what these teams know about draft prospects.
@R.B.90
@R.B.90 2 жыл бұрын
I'll start the Golden State fake trade machine lol Wiggins, Wiseman and Moody for Siakim n Baynes.
@davidbarber3821
@davidbarber3821 2 жыл бұрын
These guys kno rookies dnt make impacts like that to the teams they go to
@fastkarr8256
@fastkarr8256 2 жыл бұрын
@David Barber Luka made an impact
@KSmanderes
@KSmanderes 2 жыл бұрын
10:29 This point seems very ignorant of the fact the last two nba finals were won by a team with the more dominant big man, who both happened to be lottery picks
@fastkarr8256
@fastkarr8256 2 жыл бұрын
@KSmanderes Giannis was not a lottery pick, and Raptors did not have a lottery pick on their squad in 2019. Only Lakers in the Bubble Finals has a Lottery Big Man.
@KSmanderes
@KSmanderes 2 жыл бұрын
@@fastkarr8256 I said the last 2 years. And giannis went 15th, that's basically a lottery pick
@fastkarr8256
@fastkarr8256 2 жыл бұрын
@@KSmanderes “basically a lottery pick” is not a lottery pick. Next you will be saying Corey Kispert is basically a lottery pick.
@KSmanderes
@KSmanderes 2 жыл бұрын
@@fastkarr8256 if the lottery picks end at #14 and he went at #15, is that that much of a difference?
@srvfan4
@srvfan4 2 жыл бұрын
Russell Westbrook
@JakeYaks
@JakeYaks 2 жыл бұрын
Steal of the draft: Sharife Cooper
@torchlord11
@torchlord11 2 жыл бұрын
Pistons will have a better draft than Houston book it because three of the 4 hit over 40% over three. Livers would have gone much higher if he didn't get injured. Garza is an offensive monster who only has to prove with his 30 lb weight loss that he can defensively stay on the court. I think this will be apparent especially once everyone realizes the positions aside from Cade that they were drafted at in the second round.
@Quan1992
@Quan1992 2 жыл бұрын
I swear last year KOC and Bill loved Wiseman. Now they do nothing but trash him. I look forward to next year when they trash Mobley or Green.
@jamesk1245
@jamesk1245 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Ryen the first 1st minute of this podcast imitating a methhead on zoom call.
@mofocardinal
@mofocardinal 2 жыл бұрын
Spurs front office has 100% trust on their player development guys, taking the youngest guy possible, intending to mold him like a formless piece of clay. I just have my reservations on their scouting corps as they do not have the same advantage on international players anymore. If anything, the new GM is tending to just pick American kids recently (the Samanic pick was pre-new GM right?)
@Joe-xo4qp
@Joe-xo4qp 2 жыл бұрын
There was not a fall off in talent after Sengun lol🤣🤣🤣.
@jamardegraffenreid128
@jamardegraffenreid128 2 жыл бұрын
What kills me about this. this is a very deep draft there where a lot of winners in this draft instead rating winners and looser just rate the teams. These guys as I'm listening to them clearly did not do there homework. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship 2 жыл бұрын
16:44 so true. Beal is selfish and only wants money
@nowl775
@nowl775 2 жыл бұрын
I dont always agree with KOC, but he was the MVP last night. Dude can multitask.
@williamscarcia7903
@williamscarcia7903 2 жыл бұрын
Kings tho :/ ifkt
@T0XiCPeaches
@T0XiCPeaches 2 жыл бұрын
Did Rusillo actually play overseas like Bill mentioned?
@poesaste
@poesaste 2 жыл бұрын
No
@abrahamsanchez8784
@abrahamsanchez8784 2 жыл бұрын
Spurs biggest loser and I'm a spurs fan. Primo could be good but why not trade down????. And we don't even need another guard we needed a pf or C. I won't be mad if we start signing bigs or trade for some but knowing the spurs it's like if we are scared to make trades. I'm so confused with our selection, half our team is guards. How is primo supposed to get minutes... Oh wait he isn't we drafted him to be on our G league 😐😞😞😭😭
@paul19519
@paul19519 2 жыл бұрын
But you never know. Primo could ball out this year and be and amazing pick.
@yerrrrrrrr4567
@yerrrrrrrr4567 2 жыл бұрын
austin spurs just got a hooper lmao
@lorca3421
@lorca3421 2 жыл бұрын
Bigs are cheap in free agency. Shooters are not and that was their biggest need (Spurs are dead last in threes per game). Might as well swing for the youngest talent with a lot of upside, good IQ and a nicely developed jumpshot. A lot of teams apparently think like that, cause it was reported that the Pacers, Thunder, Hawks, Lakers and Nuggets all allegedly were interested in Primo. If so many teams are interested, maybe the pick wasn't a reach after all.
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