Hi Adrian🖐I've looked at the further, and you've actually hit the nail on the head with your comment👊The new steel beam IS in out of level to match the existing house floor. The brickies leveled the blockwork on the née outer wall from the opposite end of the stair opening, and obviously, then ran their blockwork level all the way along. It was deemed that the new floor would not show being out of level at the stair end rather than the other end against a wall where a big, wall mounted TV is going. Basically, the floor HAD to be out somewhere to tie in with the existing😬 Perhaps, if I was more aware of this when putting in the joists, I could have fitted a few, diminishing firrings on the last few joists up to the stair opening🤔Great comment bud and well deducted about the steel beam😎Cheers Del

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The fact is, we ALL make mistakes, and it would be unrealistic of me to only ever show jobs when they are going well🤔Thanks for your comment😎Cheers Del

Theres a kind of irony in your comment about me contributing to this houses wonkeyness 🤔and in any other house, I would not have left it🤨Turns out it was the steel beam that was out of level to match the existing joists, to the new joists were level one end and not the other😬Cheers bud🤩

As a bricklayer I would agree

They must use the same levels as the lads doing the dot n dab

Hi Pete🖐I've got to the bottom of why this has happened🤔Check out the reply I've made to the pinned comment at the top👊Cheers Del

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They spend all day bashing them against the wall Paul😵

Hi Tony🖐My bricklayer told me to stop moaning because my soffits were uneven on a roof because he made the cavity 30mm wider, one end to the other😬

You're right, its all good and well when everything is going to plan, but its what to do when things don't go to plan that's really interesting🤔Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

Always a positive comment from you Michael🤗

You gotta keep it honest T🫡Cheers Del

You're so right John😬and this is certainly not the first mistake I've ever made🙃Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers

Hope you're having a good time down there bud🤞Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

Hi Pat🖐These type of stairs used to terrify me when I was younger😬Thanks for watching😎

Hi Paul🖐I actually got to the bottom of the issue bud, and check out my reply to the pinned comment at the top😉Thanks for watching bud🤩

Its always tedious when mistakes are made, but it gives us something to overcome I guess🤔Thanks for watching🤩

Hi John🖐I think you had the ultimate set up bus, and I would have DEFINITELY made the top tread/riser/newel to accommodate an out of level floor in the same way you did👍Very cool idea, and it's usually only the centers 12 inches or so of the stair treads that people walk on anyway, so no problem with the top riser being taller one end👊Great comment and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

I dont doubt what you are saying bud, and I have seen the state of some of the stair installations on big sites😬and its not always the carpenters fault🤔Cheers Del

Check, check and double check bud👊Thanks for watching🤩

It's my go to word BM🤫🤩Cheers

No one is immune from making mistake Dan🤔getting over them is what separates the men from the boys😎Cheers bud

@@thetallcarpenter exactly Del… well at least we admit to them..😉. 🤘🏻

@@Ultimate-roofing-square. 🤔😉

Hi Andy🖐Great comment and bizzarely, that would make the floor out of level across its length, because it was actually the steel beam that was 35mm high at the stairs end so it matched the existing floor😬(I got to the bottom of it after this part of the video👍) Cheers Del

My pleasure, and thanks for watching🤩

Thank you bud🤩Cheers Del

Hi Darren🖐This could have been avoided bud, and it was probably just a case of, 'less haste, more speed'😉Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers

It certainly is😵and fortunately this is on an older, wonkey house🤔(still no excuse though) Cheers Del

Your too kind 🤗Cheers Del

You gotta put your hands up sometimes bud😬Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

I love your comment because its honest about what we ALL face in our jobs👍Things rarely go perfectly and there's always problems to solve🤔I think that's why I/we love it so much👊Cheers

Thanks Cameron🤩Cheers Del

Too kind bud🤗Thanks for watching🤩Cheers Del

Cheers Neil🤩Thanks for watching bud

I don't mind admitting it Jim, but some of the work I do does leave me a little unfulfilled🤔Thanks for your comment bud😎

Cheers Chris🤩

Cheers Joe🤩Thanks for watching👍

Always gotta make time for a bit of skulldeggery Jim😆

No worries🤩Thanks for watching👍

Hi Andy🖐This is the problem with only being called in to do bits and bobs on a job, and the joist at the other end of the floor WAS in level to the outer blockwork, however, the steel beam had been put in OUT of level to match the existing floor, (making it 35mm high at the stair end), and this showed on the joist that the stairs fitted to. There's more on this in the reply to the pinned comment at the top👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

You don't need to say it bus😵😜Cheers Del

Ah, sorry bud, no special method for fixing those corners😬Like you, I just 'pack' being the top part of the joint to keep it closed up tight👊I've worked closely with these stair manufacturers for many years, and they say that joint is like that due to the design/CNC software🤔Also like you, I think there could be a better way😉Cheers Del

I remember from an older video how efficient you are at doing these kits! You have obviously done a fair few in your time. Keep up the good work.💪🏻

You could screw up through the underside of the tread into the string rebates along both edges to get those corners tied in together

@@robnicholas1811 That would definitely hold them together💪

@Wattsjoinerybarn Considering how much I feared fitting stairs when I was younger, it amazes me how much I love doing them now🤩Over the years I've fitted some CRAZY technical stair sets over multiple floors and worth well over 150 grand😲Thanks for your comments, I appreciate them🤩Cheers Del

I've been slightly let off the hook Mark🤞as there was another reason for the joists being out🤔Check out my reply to the pinned comment at the top👍Thanks for watching bud🤩

@@thetallcarpenterthat makes sense

That's an awesome suggestion Garry👊but fortunately, the customer doesn't mind a little wonkeyness 😮Cheers Del

Hi Stevie🖐A little bit more investigation has let me off the hook a little for this, and there is more details in a my reply to the pinned comment at the top👍Thanks for watching bud🤗

Thanks Dave🤗and I actually do like to think of myself as a stair specialist👊Cheers

Hi Aron🖐Not a killjoy bud, and I cover this in the final video👍Thanks for watching🤩Cheers Del

Yeah👊

Cheers Wayne🤩🤗🤩

Great question🤔Yes, part of the stair is supported at the joist level, but its weight must be taken by the floor, and I would always try and fit/pack the newels down onto the substructual concrete💪Cheers Del

That was my biggest mistake🤔Thanks for watching👍

Great point Andrew👊and wait until the next/final video where I talk about this👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

I agree with this. I used to fit centre kite first and set back a bit then fit middle section and let it come together. Far easier but great vid. Enjoying watching this.

@pauldixon8279 Keep an eye on the next video where I talk about these corner kite treads😉These kind of comments show who the experienced stair guys are😎

Hi Adrian🖐The original floor was used to support the wall/roof above as the steel was fitted, so had to go where it went👍Cheers Del

Me either Stephen👍Cheers Del

Hi there🖐They are, but at the existing house end as the steel was put in out of level to match them🤔The new floor is level on both the new walls, just not at the stair opening👍Cheers Del

@@thetallcarpenter Right, sometimes you just have to roll with it on those old houses. Good luck with the rest of the project 👍

Hi there🖐There wasn't enough meat infront of the riser housing on the newel for dowels to work, that's why I had to screw it👍and yes, you can use screws in the same way if the dowels don't pull the joint tight👌Cheers Del

You're not wrong there Nick😬

Hi Andrew🖐Quite possibly bud🤔but that would them make the floor out of level the other way😬Check out the reply to the pinned comment at the top for more on the reason the joists were out👍Cheers Del

@@thetallcarpenter Hi Del, hope you've managed to sort the issue out 👍

I'm retaining the character of the existing property Trig😁Thanks for watching🤩Cheers Del

Hi Andy🖐Yes, and slightly unfairly as it turns out😜Cheers fella

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Yes bud👍More on that in the final video😉Thanks for watching

@@thetallcarpenter thanks for the video👍

Just ordered 12 tubes of caulking😜

I no you'd have been disappointed Del, but I often found floors out of level when fitting stairs. It can be a right pain deciding what will look least obvious to leave out of level or plumb, I think you're solution was the best in your case. Look forward to part 3.👍👍

Hi there🖐Its very irritating and not the way I usually roll😬There's an explanation in my reply to the pinned comment at top👍Thanks for watching🤩

Could do bud, but it turns out its not as simple as that😬Check out my reply to the pinned comment at the top👍Cheers Del

Could be done, but with great difficulty😵Cheers Del

You know it😵And its gutting that's its, ultimately, my fault for not checking😬

I think they call it 'click bait' David😉Thanks for your comment and for watching🤩Cheers Del

Rise and going min calculations most probably wouldn't of worked for the head room on the half landing that's why they have a kite winder. A load of D4 will 100% stop the squeaking 😂

As Steve the Pug says, there is not enough room to get a half or two quarter lands in there🤔and they are guaranteed to stay squeak free😎Cheers Del

Spot on bud👊

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Hi Steve🖐Id love to get some mics, but Id then have to buy new cameras as mine don't have ext mic inputs😬Thanks for watching bud, and hope you guys are well🤞Cheers Del

That's funny David😆(many a true word said in just🤔) Cheers Del

Hi TDP🖐You're only as strong as your weakest link I guess🤔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

We all make mistakes John🤔however I have looked at this more, and the steel beam is out of level to match the existing joists, so actually, this was unavoidable😬Thanks for watching🤩

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