Fr tho! Love his voice 😍

@@Am3lia77 ikr!

Lol

I've never understood these tone indicators lol, even as someone who is on the spectrum

​@@eleruces7722Do you mean you don't get why they're used or how they're used?

**I**don’t use pronouns

I said this to someone once and they lost their fucking mind lmao

​@@notmyrrodrick4387 isn't it fun to stoke the fire?

yea, pronouns that are not gendered and used when the said person/people are in the room.

It's not being "anti-pronoun". It's being grounded in reality and using the correct pronouns for a man or woman (which you can't change about yourself).

Thine pronouns are stupid

For real. Like singular they is older than singular you. But I don't hear anyone using thou.

@@waffles3629 thou shalt not call thyself "they" if thou art a single person

Girl was originally used as a word for child, regardless of gender. Do you think they’d want to bring that back?

​@@ThreeSalamandersInATrenchCoat we're fine then lmao

It really depends, if they're besides you, you can still literally use they/them. "This is Danny, they're my best friend" Acts the same if they're besides you or not there. It's all about respect, respect most people that "don't believe in pronouns"(which is wild) don't get lol

​​@@laultimarebanadathat's grammatically incorrect. Refrain from using that as a validation. Sorry

@@vinito19 Not gramatically incorrect. They/them as a gender neutral pronoun has been used a long time already. But ok, if you want to be gender inclusive, what pronouns do you think people should use so non-binary people feel comfortable?

@@laultimarebanada I don't want to be gender inclusive. I don't partake in made up psychology. Sorry. To be comfortable with something outside of your control, you GROW UP. Their need to feel special is not my problem to solve. Also,when the person is standing right nex to you, like in your example, the right pronoun must be used. That "they" doesn't apply. Even if it was correct, does that mean that every other pronoun can be discarded because it isn't? Xer/xir/xor/xur and all that?

@@vinito19 Yes, neo-pronouns do exist, they are rare in instances outside social media (they are tricky for people new to them, or non english speakers.) but yeah, people can feel identified by those too! Really, respecting other people's pronouns is how we as a empathic society works, we made up words to put people in boxes so we could categorize them better in our brains. This like the concepts "women" "men" are just boxes we as a social species made up in language to represent group of ideas. Why is so impossible for us as a society to evolve and categorize people in a different box for those that don't feel represented in the boxes mentioned before? It's not like the ideas of "blue is for boys and pink is for girl" is biological to our species, it's just how our society has evolved. I'm gonna tell you this very respectfully, I don't know what goes on in every trans person's brain, I'm not every trans person after all. But most of us aren't trying to feel special or unique or for a trend. If there's an increase in our generation of people identifying as queer, it is because of our society's growing acceptance, and more people are willing to identify themselves freely, thing that years ago wouldnt have been that easy at all. But I assure you, anyone that is trans for a trend, wouldn't keep the act for more than a year, gender dysphoria is very likely to get up to them. Believe me, no one would want to be trans, we just are.

Shh don't let them know that's why nonbinary people use they/them. We're all racoons in trench coats

Oh, sorry, it's the NBs that are Numerous Bees. Got confused for a second there.

Pack of wolfs in a human meat suit

Mood, I'm 47 rats in a hoodie personally

37 pidions in a pillow case here

people always whine & say it's confusing, but if you take 2 seconds to literally just google it, you'll find that it's been in use since the 14TH CENTURY. it is by no means new, nor is it a "neo-pronoun" as someone I spoke to tried to argue recently.

@@dwippity I have done days worth of research trying to understand it and I still dont

​@@vscogurlsksksk458 Well it's quite simple, really. "Hi, this is my friend Enby. THEY are nonbinary. THEIR pronouns are they/them"

​@@dwippity Shakespear used they/them in his fricking plays! People just don't want to learn the difference between there/their/they're

@@enbeast8350 I know how to refer to people as they/them/theirs I just don’t see the point like he or she isn’t meant to offend u

The reason "it" is not used is because it is dehumanizing in the use we have it today. Lots of people stopped calling animals "it" for that matter. Stop whining and be reapectful geez. Just a pronoun.

​@@laultimarebanadadehumanising you say? Human. That mammal called homo sapiens. That animal with a sexually dimorphic anatomy, divided into male and female sexes.... Well, if you don't want to be categorised by human/animal definitions, you might as well not be one 😊😊

It's only grammatically correct when referring to a single person when the person's gender is unknown or ambiguous. It's analogous to the way that we use plural nouns for the number 0: I have 2 cups I have 1 cup I have 0 cups There's also the problem that people who use they/them are rarely consistent and still insist on using singular I instead of We.

A they them person is a person whose gender is unknown or ambiguous​ @@Droid29 also, why would they use "we" instead of "I" what the hell are you talking about

@@Droid29 I have been using they/them since ever with nonbinary people, that just sound like an skill issue to me

LMAO never

​@@SupraMan38 oh, got it, so it was 3am then

@@SupraMan38 Sleep now🔫

Changing the subjects 💀

They/then is stupid it means 2 PEOPLE WHAT DOES THEY /THEM EVEN MEAN YOUR A SHE OR A HE

based

Yeah… antagonizing people will just make them dislike you more than they already do… 💀 Pls be more mature when confronting people and I am not saying to be mean because you never know, especially here in the America, someone finna blow a bullet on your skull for insulting them.

Just like all of my exes. Smh

Once had a guy tell me that he/him are meant to be gender neutral pronouns instead of they/them. When i told him that they/them pronouns have been nongendered and used singilar for hundreds of years, he told me to go back to school to learn grammar.

well, it was basic grammar, now we got all sorts of pronouns

Ironic

​@@averagegameplay619guess what... grammar is made up.. I know shocking

@@mikah-uy1wn welp

You mean when you don't know someone's sex. 'They' and 'them' are not there to affirm your imaginary 'gender identity'. That's the point you're all missing. This issue has nothing to do with the rules of grammar.

@@Mel-wn9gb gender is sex. Also I am not non binary lol

@@kandibear_ According to the theory, sex and 'gender' are not the same. I'm talking about the concept of 'gender'. And yes, I know you're not 'nonbinary'. Nobody is. That's my entire point.

@@Mel-wn9gb what I was saying is that I dont identify as non binary and what theory states that sex and gender are not the same

@@kandibear_ The key word being 'theory', not fact.

I'm is a pronoun

I is a pronoun bro

y’all it’s a joke

Who/asked

@@ponfi0275everyone apparently nowadays because you can’t use common sense anymore and people will get triggered if you don’t use the right pronoun.

Thats very bold, coming out (especially with neopronouns) is really hard. Glad you were able to in this age of transphobia

@@sambun6394 But this person is joking to be transphobic Also, common sense is just using they/them for strangers, like a normal person.

@@ponfi0275 ur/not/funny

How

​@@KingNerdiusYou don't know how to think. The fact that this person thinks that was an own only demonstrates their lack of intelligence and ability to think critically. That would explain why she fell for this sexist garbage in the first place.

No it’s not💀

Huh?

Fr😭never thought I would see a day coming where people cry about their pronouns

You mean if you don't know someone's sex. The issue is the false belief that the relevant pronouns are there to uphold your alleged 'gender identity'. They're not.

Exactly, you can use it out of ignorance, because you don't know who you are talking about. If you do know, you can't use it.

heyyyy DID gang!!’

​@jellymooshy4636 aren't you already a gang by yourself though? Why are you excited?

This!! I don't personally use they/them, but I mean if they/them is used I just assume the person must be referring to more than one of us 🤣

@@jonstapleton2340 because. because we don’t know any other systems irl? because we like seeing people like us? because we like a reminder we’re not alone? would you like us to continue?

@@aarasko Y'all seriously need to go touch some grass

Well try harder by not sex stereotyping people. Thank you.

@@Mel-wn9gb what-

​@@Mel-wn9gb nga what 💀

thank you. not everyone thinks the same and i hate how the lgbtq community cancels opinions other than their own.

Well as long as you’re respectful unlike so many other people in the lgptq community, I’m chilling

*yes we are

This is the best argument I've seen so far. "Our pronouns aren't they/them because we're non-binary, it's because ae are literally two n*ggas" -Venok

This is the best argument I've seen so far. "Our pronouns aren't they/them because we're non-binary, it's because ae are literally two n*ggas" -Venom

That might actually work

Whats your pronouns?

I mean you don't think it's strange that's we've gone this far as a soceity of being normal with women and men and now all of a sudden you can be anything you can be nothing. It is bizarre

Works for me.. I'll call you a mistake so we're even 😇

​@@Nathalia_NateGenuinely convinced at this point you're a super deciated shitposter

Based

it is stupid

Yup, it's stupid

Finally the one comment that isn’t delusional😂

Yeah it is stupid.

Ignorance is bliss, remember that.

@@natalie_the_protogen8235 please elaborate. I’m not ignorant to anything.

@@bg_aloha Nobody is forcing speech on anyone. Its about having basic human respect. Your actions have consequences.

@@natalie_the_protogen8235 except it is being forced. There are places where you can get arrested for misgendering someone. That’s forced speech and that is literally fascism.

@@bg_aloha if you dont show basic amounts of respect, you deserve to be locked up.

me too 🥲 💔

Same... it's hard for them to unlearn introducing me as their daughter, niece etc. Others always rope me in on "girly" in jokes that start with "us girls.... blah blah". That kinda bugs me.

@@Nimoes_archive Same. My bro said "I'll never understand women." I said "Me either." He says "But you ARE a woman." Was watching a bad women's autonomy and bro says "Did you know you're not a real woman?" Lumping me in with women on the joke. Constantly calling me girl, woman, sister, she/her not even trying to learn how to make my comfy and when I ask him to use neutral or masculine words, he says "No, that feels weird coming from my mouth!"

Probably bc youre born a girl 🤡

Same, except for I'm a trans guy And I'm sorry to hear that, I respect your pronouns :)

You never use they for one person? Never? They walked up to the door. Are you now stricken with confusion because you don’t know if they have a dick or not? They can be used as a singular person. It’s been that way for as long as I’ve been speaking English.

@@trappedinamerica7740 They is used when the person is unknown to you. Once that person is known you then use he or she. To use They/ Them in all cases would make conversation odd. Mind you your doing this when talking about someone who isnt there. So its controlled speech on behave of that person. So you have to hope whoever your talking to understand what you mean. Yes They/Them can be singular. But a lot of people have moved away from how the trans want them to be used which is to be used in all cases. No one is going to get use to going back to old english like that. The issue with They/Them is the confusion that comes with it that could have been avoided. In some cases it will work and others you have the person assuming more than one person. Trans only looked at They/Them skin deep and ran with it. They didnt think of the many uses of it. Now there will be times people think your talking about more than one person. Because thats whats wildly used. I could go around asking people if their gay and I mean gay as in another word for happy but most people wont see it that way. Grammar is always evolving to be more efficient. This only back tracks on that.

What about this “My wife said her friend is coming over. She is so nice.” Am I talking about the wife or her friend. Proof that she:her makes no sense am I right????

Because you said "my wife said her friend" which mean the following sentence is referring to said friend and because you use the pronoun she it is implied to be a female friend. When you said she is nice, it is referring to the friend. It's alot harder to do it with he, him, she, and her because to use it you have to establish a person to tie it to which will be 1 person. They and them is different because it can be used in the plural and singular form. Singular being widely use in old english and faded out. I could call people gay and mean happy. Because gay ment happy back then. But if I asked today in modern times if you are gay. What do you think the response would be. Words change over time and they/them could very well go back to its old english usage. I doubt it because of the confusion it brings. Not worth the effort when she/him can be use with little to no confusion. It would have been better to use a different word other than they/them. Make up one singular pronoun but only 1 and stick to it.

@@umbralflow6883 no, I was referring to the wife. She is nice for going out with her friend or whatever I said they were doing I forgot See how confusing it can be? There are so many examples “Jack and john are going to ice skating. He is getting better at it” like you can’t tell who I’m talking about. Pronouns are weird sometimes you just have to learn to live with it

Exactly!! I hate it when people say “well they/them is only used to refer to groups of people”. Even my family is against me on this when we discussed it. I said that it’s basic English that you can refer to a singular person as ‘they/them’ but they basically told me i’m wrong…

​@@shoyohinata4544you only use they on a singular person if you can't point towards a specific person. as soon as you know who dropped the wallet, "they" is no longer the right word.

​@@Rockyphilly94no response because you're right lol these people hate facts 😂

go back to sleep then, if you don’t wanna face reality

@@meatrubber2 of the clown world we live in🤡🤡🤡

​@@meatrubber2 People refuse to use they to refer to a singular person, despite people using it

he said he thought they *weren’t* stupid

I’m bisexual and I support trans people but how is not wanting to use they/them pronouns on ppl transphobic?

Like a trans gender person could be someone who has born a girl (short, non muscular, has boobs) that girl is unhappy with that she wants to be tall,muscular, have a flat chest and have a deep voice. Thats what being transgender is! These “non binary” ppl r not trans

​@@vscogurlsksksk458 so like... I do not think you fully grasp what being transgender means

Apparently KZfaq shorts can attract some nasty people.

@@vscogurlsksksk458 Trans = doesn’t assign with gender at birth. Not always just FTM or MTF.

Exactly. You can’t police language. So if someone wants to use specific pronouns, they can - sorry.

Actually there’s lots of people getting arrested for not using they/them on people

And I have tried to learn and understand it yet it still is confusing and makes no sense

@@candycat1725 Okay, arresting is more than a bit too far, I agree. The government shouldn’t be doing that shit; free speech is a thing for a reason. And for the second comment, can you specify what’s confusing about it? It’s different for a lotta people. I commend you for at least trying.

@@candycat1725 are these “lots of people” in the room with you right now?

@@candycat1725 Bro who got arrested for not using they/them…

No one's out here doing this

@@huskofapuppet Sorry, you’re right. That’s more of a zher/zhem thing to do.

@@Mega-Tim that's better

its truly not that simple but being non stop disrespected by everyone does damage to someones mental health

@@two_5 If not referring to somebody as the goblin king is damaging to their mental health than they are insanely fragile. Sure, I wouldn't purposefully try to mess up someone's pronouns, however I'm not going to waste anytime trying to please weird antisocial kids. After all, when talking to someone you only use you and yours.

Hehehehe

Omg a Non-Binary hiii

@@evan_b2011 hallo, yep I'm an enby ^_^

@@delsings cool! I used to be! I'm omni and poly lol

@@evan_b2011 oh omnigender? Cool! I think you are the first I've met who identifies that way. Pleasure to meetcha

Fr

Like people getting mad that other people dont think exactly like themselves? Cause the real offended, are the ones who cry when other people dress differently, or use different pronouns that the ones you use. Nowadays they even try to outlaw people dressing in other ways than the ones they (republicans) want.

Says y'all

@Ynwell_theslaaneshi I honestly don’t care if someone dresses differently or would rather be called he instead of she (or she instead of he) but I’m not gonna change the way I speak just to please some mentally ill teenage girls. I proudly use he for men, she for women and they for multiple people or if I don’t know the gender of someone.

@@candycat1725 Google the etymology for "they".

Well, yes, because we have lives beyond bullying people for using they/them.

@@cucaresto9108 nope, you’re the one bullying people into your ideology. Y’all made the community so toxic that we ditched the T altogether. #LGB

​@@FoodIsOverratedcope lmfao

​@@FoodIsOverrated🤡

​@@natalie_the_protogen8235agreed

No it’s not disrespectful we’re not gonna change a whole language because yall want to go by they/them.

@@haleighsandoval it’s not changing y he language 💀💀💀

@@mercuriejmd kinda is tho it’s basically saying they= multiple people

@@haleighsandovalGirl you name isn't even spelled right and you want to bitch about they/them pronouns. Go talk to your parents about removing all the extra ass letters before you start talking out your neck.

I'd call someone with the 'I'll call them whatever I want' because pronouns are stupid argument by the opposite pronouns than those they identify with just to make the point

Somebody doesn't know basic English it seems.

@@shreksmeatballs9435 uh yeah I do…. Y’all don’t have any comprehension skills lmao. Point out exactly where I was wrong if apparently I was 🤣

You are absolutely correct

​@@shreksmeatballs9435It seems you don't know sh**

Character development

@@L0rdOfThePies perhaps. Took me too long to realize that wanting to be a girl meant I could be one

@@Dr.supervillain I’m glad you’ve found yourself out of it atleast. That’s what its all for anyway imo

@@L0rdOfThePies ye

@@Dr.supervillain Wait till you find out that to be a girl, you need a vagina and a uterus. You can still pretend to be a girl though. Like 4 years olds used to do.

Okay?

How do the 'transgender' people in those cultures survive the lack of 'gender affirmation'? Does that make those languages transphobic? 🤔

And offense isn’t given, it’s taken

@@FishJesus420 Wasn’t offended I was telling the truth

You clearly give none… nobody is demanding more than you are being called female pronouns..😭😅🤔

@@illicitaffairsxmarjorie yeah I’m on your side

@@FishJesus420just now saw this so sorry lol

@@romeohio19 yes they are. “Nuh uh you’re not” Peak anti-pronoun crowd.

@@Ynwell_theslaaneshi they ai n't, dk head. it's spelled peak anti retard crowd.

@@Ynwell_theslaaneshi yeah its so hilarious 😂

@@isla.x. To myself or to other people? I go by he/they (for now) and it’s just because it’s natural ig and it makes sense. I can answer your question more in depth if you clarify what you’re asking :D

Seek help

Gender is not the same as sex. Sex is what you are assigned as, biologically from birth, depending on the pair of chromosomes you happened to be born with. Gender typically refers to masculine/feminine in terms of language, the greek and latin languages that english took root from also have specific terms for people that were neither of these. These two are not to be confused with sexual orientation. If you wanna take the high road and go "there's only 2 genders," that is incorrect, grammatically and factually. Gender identity is a relatively new concept in the history of humanity though. The first trans person to legally change their sex was in the 1930s. In this case, they used the term "transexual", not "transgender", because their sex was changed to reflect their gender identity. I think part of the problem stems from how people have appropriated certain terms despite their original intent. Like the term "cis" has popped up to denote "sex same as birth", the creator of the word didn't want it being used to create a divide between transgender people and others. And now it used almost exclusively to point out the difference between them. Plus, it just sounds nasty. Like a cat hissing. Not a huge fan. I believe that respect should be earned too, but it's not all that hard to treat others with basic decency.

Because they're narcissistic and egotistical. They think that they have transcended beyond gender.

Probably because trans peoples’ lives are so filled to the brim with reminders that so many people hate them, that intentionally misgendering them isnt helping the 82% of trans individuals that have considered suicide and 40% that have attempted it. Thats roughly 400,000 people - compared to an estimated 1.7 million total adults in the US that have attempted it. *TL;DR: Stfu*

Because people live in a bubble nowadays. This generation would have never survived in the 70's

it's just mostly Americans. you guys are bored/have no personality/and privileged as fck where u can have mental breakdown when someone 'mispronounce' you and make it ur whole personality. while ppl here get disowned/shamed/and sometimes even get killed if they know u have even a hint of gayness

that's still how it is lmao. i aint calling a man she/her

It's almost like gender as a concept is purely cosmetic and pretty much functionally useless!

oh yeah? did you travel back in time to find that out or what? where’s your proof?

@@meatrubber2 extremely funny, as if you needed a time travel machine to know, and not, I dunno, written books or letters, or pamphlets, or even bibles.

@@meatrubber2 I researched on the internet. I don’t know if that’s the earliest time it was used because that was the earliest piece of writing that’s been recorded. It probably could have been used before that and it just wasn’t recorded.

because it's grammatically incorrect. They refers to multiple things. You refers to just one thing. For example: Tad and Karen. Went to the store THEY said we'll be back shortly. QED

@@gorkskoal9315 what would you say if you saw a wallet on the street? ‘Someone lost their wallet’ or ‘someone lost his or her wallet’? Also if it’s grammatically incorrect why has it been like that since the 14th century and no one has cared until very, very recently?

Whoever taught this isn't correct bc singular they was around since the 1300s but maybe a bunch of teachers just didn't care to know that..

No, your mum was correct. They/them is plural and only plural. It can be used for single person when the gender is unknown, but as soon as the person's gender is known, it shouldn't be used anymore. It is analogous to the way plural nouns are used with the number zero: I ate 2 steaks I ate 1 steak I ate 0 steaks

@@Droid29 not at all analogous and English teachers know much more than you and disagree. It’s been singular since Shakespeare.. for a very long time and for more than unknown..third gender exists in many cultures, just say you dk anything.

Then your "English" teachers are spouting nonsense. Singular they hasn't been in regular use for ambiguous gender except for the last 50-100 years. Singular they for definite gender has only existed for the last two decades max. Third "genders" in other cultures are mostly a myth. What they actually were in most cases were different societal roles, like Eunuchs serving as personal assistants, or unique tribal roles which were assigned by tribal elders. The alternate genders of today have none of that and are just unnecessary alternates to the two actual genders. At best, they are personality declarations and owing to their frivolity and societal uselessness, should not require a reordering of language or customs. That and the fact singular definite they causes confusion is enough reason to resist it.

@@Droid29 I’ve seen the research they referred to and disagree but think what you like love. Also think about it for a minute, if your skin made people uncomfortable do you resist those people existing? Like wtf.

too bad 🥱

“My friend wanted a gift so I went out and bought it for THEM. THEY were so happy when they received it.” Not fucking hard.

It’s not “just plural” at all “They dropped their purse” “They picked it up” it’s also used to refer to unknown subjects

The argument is as stupid as implying that this is a liberal vs conservative issue, or that it's about the rules of grammar.

@@Mel-wn9gb then what’s it about? I’m not commenting on the entire gender discussion at large, more so how stupid people sound when they proclaim they is plural only. Regardless of whether you think grammar has anything to do with it, that point is still correct. They is plural and singular. Saying otherwise is stupid. However I will give you some credit for the liberals and conservatives part because I consider myself liberal but also have a lot of unpopular opinions about the gender discussion. Let’s be real though, it is primarily liberal people that subscribe to gender ideology and conservative people who do not, hence the word “conservative”. Their outlook on life is far more traditional when it comes to gender roles. I also never said it was anyone vs anyone. You’re lying to yourself if you don’t see that it’s primarily liberals that subscribe to gender ideology and conservatives who do not. Of course there are outliers just like everything else in life.

The problem is that while "they/them" can be used singularly, it isnt used singularly in the same context as these non-binary (attention seeking kids) use it in. For example, if I refer to someone as "they" Im still refering to that "they" with the knowledge that they are a he or a she, not that "they" is entirely seperate to the he or she it is in reference to. Its not hard to understand, and the answer should always be No when kids feel entitled to dictate what adults can say just because some new identity or fad dropped.

@@uh-ohspaghettio7826 fair point. I understand it when you put it that way, so thank you for giving me some insight, but no shade idk how many other people could articulate that as well as you did 😂. I 10000% agree with you given the way you explained this, but I genuinely have seen people who challenge gender ideology use “they is plural!!!” as a counterpoint to they/them identity, with no further elaboration. I do come from a weird standpoint though in that I’m gay and pretty liberal but have drawn a fierce line at this nonbinary, gender ideology, woke BS. It’s making normal gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transexual people look absolutely insane when we’re really just normal folks trying to have jobs and lives.

Based society 11/10 would forcefully install into out government /j

It's also an irrelevant argument, because it's not grammar that's the issue. It's the bastardization of language for ideological reasons.

Your poor father. Imagine thinking you're old enough to lecture your father.

Maybe people wouldnt get bored if normie binary pronouns werent so basic

@@puffbairThat’s a good way to get people to accept you insult an entire group of people because one person called your beliefs stupid.

​@@puffbairImagine thinking your pronouns make you interesting. Nobody past the age of 20 thinks youre interesting because you use "different" pronouns, we all recognize you as the people that havent done anything to be interesting so try to find labels to make you interesting, which never works.

this kid can’t handle a few more letters

@@uh-ohspaghettio7826 never said pronouns make you interesting. I’m saying that people get confused with their “identity” so they think that changing their gender, pronouns, sexuality, etc. Will fulfill them. It won’t. Pronouns are simply 2 words you identify as. You are either a She/her or a he/him. There is no in between. You physically cannot be a they/them. You and yourself are one person.

They is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers (people who compile dictionaries) have determined that as far back as the 1300s

@@rango_the_mango im afraid you're missing the point, this makes it harder to communicate, pick another word

​@@cabudagavin3896thats not how language works

@@natalie_the_protogen8235 ? Im pretty sure thats exactly how language works...

@@cabudagavin3896 well, you are pretty wrong...

No

​@@myrddin1yes

'me' 'you' and 'we' are all pronouns pro there arent just two lmfaooo

@@musicobsessive123 the comment is talking about the two pronouns that correlate the two genders. It's not saying there are ONLY two pronouns.

@@user-cb4zz7ud9f but even then, singular they has been used for literal centuries

I think it's just because it's easier than having to create a new word, since people would complain more about a new word than just using they/them

Also, we have made various gender neutral neopronouns repeatedly since - IIRC - the 1960s, but none have become truly widely used. Wikipedia has an article on neopronouns, which last I checked was pretty well sourced. (If it is vandalized right now, one can always read an older version from the edit history)

No

@@myrddin1 Corporate shill.

@@dominusdevacore517 no

They love being butthurt. It gives them life lol

They/them is singular. You is also singular, but it didn’t use to. They/them has been songular longer than you has been

@Ilikecatsalot1 Yeah, you are a fucking idiot. They/them is used when you don't see the person and don't know THEIR sex. Not when mentally ill Jeffrey Marsh tells you he uses they/them. But what to expect from fucking liberals who can't use logic and project it on conservatives.

???

Fr, they/thems are just looking for something to make them seem unique and interesting + to get attention. They want to be victims so bad💀.

Now why would you say that? Let's explore this idea, what exactly made you believe that

it kewl ur trying 2 understand its just when a person doesnt feel like a man or a woman and feel in between does that make any sense? the person over there everybody does tho. singular they has been around far longer than singular you and isnt just a new thing sm1 made up. just thought i should say that

You would just say "they over there" and then if further clarification is needed "that person"

Willing to be anything youre below 17

What exactly is incorrect? Can you give an example?

​@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023It's incorrect that pronouns refer to your 'gender identity'. You guys just made that up.

either that or they dont feel like a man or a woman.

@@6r41n5lu5h Oh okay my fault

@@green-909 dam ty 4 understanding that was quick

@@6r41n5lu5h yw

How is it fake tho? I mean he's not using any voice changers, that's just his natural voice

@@jawly_ Not saying that he's using a voice changer but that is not his natural voice, since he's been on hormones during his transition. But even then you can hear how he is forcing it, he sounds like he's just smoked a pack of weed

@@AV-tq7lr One, then that also means that anyone's voice after puberty isn't using their "natural" voice since their body was influenced by hormones. Two, why should it even matter if his voice is "natural" if it makes him happy. And three, bro really just said "pack of weed"

@@jawly_ 1 No if his voice was influenced by his own hormones then it would still be natural tf? We’re talking about testosterone that wasn’t actually his 😭 that’s what what makes it unnatural. 2 I was just pointing it out, not going into why it matters again and 3 Yeah English isn’t my first language, didn’t know that was something to be ashamed of

@@AV-tq7lr I'm sorry, that's my bad. I didn't realize your first language wasn't English since everything else was fluent. We don't really have "packs of weed" (unless you count tins of pre-rolled joints) but we do have packs of cigarettes. If someone is smoking weed usually you just say they're smoking a joint, blunt, bowl, or are taking a bong rip. Those will usually get you where you need to go when talking about smoking weed. Why does it matter where the hormones come from? The voice is still changed getting what it was, and thus is no longer the natural voice. If you don't get my point, it's that making a negative comment about someone's voice, appearance, gender identity, etc is stupid, just like working about where the hormones are coming from or how natural something is. If his voice being natural didn't matter, then you wouldn't have commented about it in the first place. If someone's whole identity is being trans, then so what, who cares, good for them for being able to be comfortable and proud of their body and lived experiences. Not only that, but just because you talk about being trans like one in twenty times, how are you going to say that he's made it his whole personality? If you've ever actually watched his videos, he RARELY talks about it. There's no need or reason to get upset by someone just making a joke about pronouns.

@@piplups wikipedia 💀💀💀💀 good fucking bye 😭

@@piplups wikipedia is not a credible source

Amen

Ill identify as grammarly if it helps your run-on sentences

@@puffbair identify as whatever you want dude. Imma keep stating the facts even if I make some grammar mistakes.

@@theotherbk1819 at least you stopped making grammar mistakes, but you still clearly dont know what facts means

@@puffbair I know that there's delusional people that want to pretend to be something they they'll never be no matter how many parts they chop off, no matter how many hormones you pump into yourself, and no matter how much name calling you do or words that end with phobic you direct at people that point out that reality. The fact is that the only reason this stuff is so prevalent now is that now the media will threaten to label you as hateful or bigoted just for calling out people like Desiree who identified as a transwoman so he could enter a woman's only shelter and proceed to sexually assault a women staying there back in April or that boy who identified as trans so he could enter the girls locker room and sexually assault Sam's Smith's daughter or those two female prisoners that got pregnant after a transwoman was transferred to that women's only prison. Nah dude I hold no hate towards you at all as you can have whatever beliefs you want and I'll be praying for ya but no matter how much you have me or criticize my grammar the truth is that letting people do whatever they want just cause they want to live a delusion is a problem that's gotta be called out especially when it involves grown adults teaching kids that that's what they should be doing.

Why isn't it?

@@jawly_ 1 because there are plenty of reasons to care, for example because society just isn’t gonna suddenly gonna change and it’s not logical to restructure society for the 1% of people who are confused about their identity, and 2 because it proves that you don’t have an actual counterargument. It’s the same argument people use for letting kids get medically transitioned. We care for multiple reasons and he knows

@@AV-tq7lr It's a question to get to the root of transphobia. The argument for letting kids get gender affirming care isn't just "Why do you care?" It's that doing so will ultimately help kids, and the data shows this. Not only that, but the rate of trans people keeps growing as it becomes more and more accepted. Saying that there is only 1% and that there will only be 1% is just silly and disingenuous

@@jawly_ No the question is to make the other person feel silly for caring about a serious issue in today's society cause if you actually argued it you would look silly yourself. The rate of Trans people is in fact skyrocketing, not because of social acceptance but because of a political agenda that is being pushed by the left. When I was 12 I didn't even know what transgenderism was but now in this TikTok-controlled generation you got kids that are 8, talking about being born in the wrong body. Any parent that affirms to their child that they are somehow trapped in the wrong body and need surgery needs their child taken away. Along with this raise in trans people there is also a huge raise in detransitioners, but for some reason TikTok doesn't platform them🙂 Like I said there is a political agenda behind this shi. Also you say that "gender affirming care" will help kids but are you aware of the fact that lots of these kids end up being life long medical patiënts? Have you ever looked at scars left from these procedures? Are you aware of how little questions are asked to these teens, how damaging testosterone? Have you ever listened to a detransitioners' story? And how can you honestly say that a child who isn't old enough to drink alcohol is somehow old enough to decide to become STERILE. Yes, there is a huge risk that you will never be able to have your own children, and honestly if someone let me make that decision as a child I would resent that person for eternity. However it's not difficult to figure out why so many kids are ending up being dependent on medical care for the rest of their lives, cause huge pharma are the ones who are receiving the money lmao Medically transitioning a child is a form of child abuse and is never an ethic option. Most kids who feel gender dysmorphia grow out of that feeling and end up being homosexual adults, nothing wrong with that.

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Unless they go by they/them

@@KingNerdius What is the purpose of going by they/them in personal relationships? I can actually understand it for business and such to avoid discrimination, but there would be no point if it's with someone you know personally.

@@ToidiSoup yes there would be, if you are nonbinary or gender non conforming then you go by they/them, simple

@@KingNerdius you mean like intersex people?

@@ToidiSoupsex doesn’t have anything to do with it