This and That: 2019 French, Spanish & Italian Figure Skating Championships & Evgenia Medvedeva

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5 жыл бұрын

On this week's episode of 'This and That,' we break down all of the action from the 2019 French, Spanish and Italian Nationals and give the latest updates on Evgenia Medvedeva (евгения медведева) as she prepares to compete at the Russian Figure Skating Championships.
Gabriella Papadakis and Guillaume Cizeron returned to form at the French Figure Skating Championships, yet it was Vanessa James and Morgan Cipres who truly stole the show with their thid standout free skate of the season.
Nicole Della Monica and Matteo Guarise won another national title, yet they displayed some inconsistency on their jumps.
Daniel Grassl landed three quads to upset Matteo Rizzo.
In Spain, Olivia Smart and Adria Diaz won the rhythm dance but were overtaken by Sara Hurtado and Kirill Khaliavin in the free dance. Spain's berth to the World Figure Skating Championships will be determined at the upcoming European Figure Skating Championships.
Evgenia Medvedeva heads to Saransk with a new short program to 'Tosca' choreographed by Misha Ge. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva will miss the event due to pneumonia and we discuss what we think it portends for the rest of her season. Mikhail Kolyada may also be out after suffering from sinus issues.
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@bring_back_figures5176 5 жыл бұрын

Time Stamps continued in Replies 0:00 Dave and Jonathan tangent; ornaments, Frank Carroll, skating magazines/manuals, Meagan Duhamel, Frau Müller, and Jan Hoffmann. Please have Meagan commentate Russian Nationals!!! (Personal Opinion: I actually love your tangents) 19:00 Russian Nationals Preview 19:02 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 20:17 Evgenia Medvedeva's new short program and Russian Women’s European Team. 22:15 Javier Fernandez Tour 23:30 Back to Evgenia Medvedeva 26:20 How Russia runs it’s nationals and update on Mikhail Kolyada. 28:18 Russian Figure Skating Media Sites, how they discuss weight and Kolyada’s mental state. 30:08 Russian Men’s World and European Team 31:00 Russian Ice Dance Rumors 31:42 Baby Plushenko, Plushenko’s other son, and Putin’s use of Russian celebrities in government.

@bring_back_figures5176 5 жыл бұрын

33:36 French Nationals 33:37 James and Cipres, differences in Charlie White and Guillaume Cizeron’s choreography, and the time deduction. 35:43 Sui/Han vs James/Cipres (Personal Opinion: I’m still rooting for Sui/Han) 37:52 James/Cipres short program, their packaging issues, and if they’ll do shows. 40:57 Skaters calling it in at smaller nationals 42:04 Weaver and Poje at Christmas on Ice 42:49 Chock and Bates probably competing at nationals, Hawayek and Baker’s momentum, Chock and Bates’s Elvis short program. 45:28 Papadakis and Cizeron’s struggles in the pattern and her twizzle issues, still ahead of the field, discussions about the free dance. (Personal Opinion: I’m not a big fan of their programs this year) 53:47 Pairs event at 1994 Olympics, please do a judging video with Meagan!!! 54:51 Kevin Aymoz, they have opposite opinions on both programs. Kiss and cry moments, and Cizeron’s influence. 57:44 Mae-Berenice Meite beating Laurine Lecavelier, and Kori Ade.

@MichaelinNeoh 5 жыл бұрын

So in other words start at the beginning because there’s nothing I want to skip. As usual.

@pandatours 5 жыл бұрын

Bless!!!

@carterwilson4605 5 жыл бұрын

When do they stop discussing pairs and ice dance?

@bring_back_figures5176 5 жыл бұрын

@@carterwilson4605 54:51 for French Nationals

@raphouice4300 5 жыл бұрын

For French info: - In the kiss and cry Kevin knew the marks where inflated because it was nationals so he just wasn’t that impressed with his score - The photo with Vanessa/Morgan and Gabriella/Guillaume is in the Grand Palais which is not a rink but a museum, they sometimes do fashion shows there and they put an ice rink for winter

@mcwyman7928 5 жыл бұрын

Evgenia and Russian Nationals talk start at 18:54

@matthewo8701 5 жыл бұрын

thank you

@ericawashington310 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks SOOOOOO MUCH❤️

@drea09a 5 жыл бұрын

‘The Gracias España Tour’ hahaha!

@Calzasverdes0 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, that was great!!! Does the original versión in English sound that funny? Because in Spanish it sounds really corny, like a good title for a parody and I never thought it when I heard the name of the Canadian show.

@goodtimes739 5 жыл бұрын

It would be great if you'll invite Yulia Lipnitskaya to recap Russian Nationals. Or maybe just interview her someday. That will be the best Christmas gift ever to me!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

She is certainly welcome anytime. I don't know how good her English is. It also gets complicated when agents are involved. We have certainly sent a message in the past.

@aidaaman1742 5 жыл бұрын

omg, that would be incredible. Yulia's perspective on all of that backdoor politicking shit is so interesting. I enjoy her commentary on TV but also understand she is likely very constrained with regard to what she is allowed to say there.

@samuelepancaldi4070 5 жыл бұрын

Carolina said she was going to be in the boot for just a week and as of now she's still scheduled to do some christmas shows in italy. Last month it was reported that she left Mishin and Huth and she was going to work with Tomas Verner and Manon Perron. I'm pretty sure italy needs Carolina to qualify for the world team trophy so maybe she'll do that. Love your show btw!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Samuele Pancaldi best wishes to Carolina! We miss her!

@sueecavanau 5 жыл бұрын

As far as Papadakis/Cizeron - they seem oblivious to any critique of their programs. Their stance seems to be, "I don't care what you think. We will move forward with our art in our little bubble regardless of your opinion." They don't seem snooty, but rather forge ahead like that's just the way it is. And as long as their scores soar way above the rest of the field, they'll do as they please. Actually, if their scores fall below other teams, they'll probably still do whatever they want. They seem to be in their own world with their own vision, looking neither right nor left nor outward. As a super fan of theirs, I'm just going to go along for the ride and take what they give me and relish it for what it is for as long as they allow.

@evelynwashere13 5 жыл бұрын

Riding right there with you....👏👏👏👍👍👍

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Jutta Muller documentary: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e855iNWcyrPUfp8.html

@rosesavoy9035 5 жыл бұрын

If Medvedeva program is choreographed by Misha G it’s amazing. If I had to skate a figure skating program or any dance program I would choose Misha. And thank you for covering the Spanish competition to, I hope one day you guys can speak about the Portuguese (unfortunately we don’t have ice rinks in 🇵🇹). But means a lot to me and I bet some Spanish fans who watch your channel. You guys are amazing and so well prepared as usual! 💜

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Rose Savoy Which programs choreography by Misha are your favorites?

@nvadqs 5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan, when you sent me the pattern by the French, what it stroke me first when rewatching P/C was that they had taken a 8/8 tempo that goes CLEARLY 3-3-2 for a pattern that needs a clear first stroke every 4 beats.... thanks!

@SavannahRidout 5 жыл бұрын

- Reading from 1964 copies of Skating magazine is why I clear my non-existent schedule to watch this once a week. - You were both discussing how you don't love the music of the free dance and I started typing something about how much I love it, and you said "what is this French Lilith Fair" and I laughed at how predictable I am to love this I sit beneath a framed original Lilith Fair painting. That being said, I prefer the second half, and think they could've only used Sunday Afternoon as it's an 8 minute song with many different levels.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

@tc5044 5 жыл бұрын

I just get so happy when I see you've posted a new video.

@alexjwebabou 5 жыл бұрын

Kolyada the headcase (i remember they called Verner a headcase in the Czech Republic many years ago). After the Olympics all the media have been focusing on the sport because of Evgenia - Alina rivalry AND because of Kolyada's not so good performance. Many "experts" like TAT, Yagudin, Trankov were way too blunt and gave very harsh comments back then (and later had to apologize), and journalists (of tabloids too) have turned the topic into a click bait (just like with Jenya and Canada, Alina and Eteri, and later Liza T. cos you know...she skated "naked"). They asked "experts" (that's how they always call them) up to someone like Katarina Gerboldt, imagine that, what they think about Kolyada. Turns out only half of them are skilled in diplomacy, even though, many more are aware of what happened to Gold and Wagner. Btw, during Gold's SP at Rostelecom they were blabbing about her physical shape rather than her mental state. For TAT it's the answer for everything. She once said - 'in America they can't ask a girl to lose weight". Sometimes she and others don't know where to stop and they comment on girls' weight during perfomances, so yeah, that's another topic to be blunt about. Baby-Plushenko is not really flying off the shelves. The thirsty parents drag him along but the most attention Plush has had recently is when he asked Yulia to perform in his show. With political parties it's very simple. Athletes in Russia treat sport as a full time job. So when they retire the top athletes have a lot of money and very little education. And politics is a way to find better projects to invest all that money (and for a party it's just PR). Sikharulidze and Yagudin talked about that in their interviews. There are no Nathan Chen or Debi Thomas stories (i heard Kostornaya wants to be a neuro-surgeon in the future!). And the year 2007 is connected to the political timeline (the push of liberal parties before the following elections in terms of gaining capital).

@joejoematic8206 5 жыл бұрын

As a German viewer I have never heard about Axel Witt skating in his whole life. Back in 2010 the German TV showed Jutta Müller working with Aljona on the 3S in Chemnitz. It has never paid off until Bruno came and taught Aljona how to do the jump.

@lauriebrewer4724 5 жыл бұрын

Oh please do a video on the 94 pairs competition! That would be amazing!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Will do!

@nvadqs 5 жыл бұрын

That's fast!!! First time I watch it about Spain!

@matthewhines9787 5 жыл бұрын

OMFG How did I know about the Witt/Poetzch/Rauschenbach connection when other peeps didn't? Axel Rauschenbach was Mandy Woetzel's partner. I feel vaguely proud. Awesome upload guys! Thank You.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Good on you!

@jeanluccharbonnel4226 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys for this delicious vacations issue ... have great holidays all of you

@joanspecer7513 5 жыл бұрын

Years ago, I read an article that said Axel Witt was a soccer player in Germany. His career ended because of an injury and he became a physical therapist.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that tidbit! It is certainly a small world in Chemnitz!

@TheAnnmjensen 5 жыл бұрын

“Don’t bother the Audience or the Judges”. I need this as a mug and T-shirt.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Coach Planner we can work on that!

@MyKombucha 5 жыл бұрын

Yes review the 1994 pairs event please!

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

Yep Italian Nationals were in Trentino (host city of Universiade 2013) and I was shocked 😳 cause Trentino is such a pretty city but PalaGhiaccio is the only place in the city they still have Universiade branding. It was actually quite cute because I was there for other reason last year but I stepped by anyway to the rink and there was a mini boys competition (yup Universiade branding was still there)

@grisgris6908 5 жыл бұрын

Love all the skating history, you guys always impress me with your knowledge :)

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

We are both history buffs!

@christinegrit4884 5 жыл бұрын

So glad you're not into the strategy thing about poor Elizaveta being hospitalised, so she could go to euros with a bye. Made me rather sick.

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

Random Question: Is a persistent Flutz/Lip issue - e.g., Mao, skaters who’ve done everything humanly possible to fix their technique but still can’t get the correct edge - down to pronation/supination? i.e., That a pronator (weight-bearing on the medial side of the foot) is more likely to Flutz and Flip and a supinator (weight-bearing on the lateral side of the foot) is more likely to Lip and Lutz?

@Piano1oh1 5 жыл бұрын

The Axel WAS first called an "Axel Paulsen" but then got shortened down. :)

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Look at you with the tidbits!

@Patrick-vj1qu 5 жыл бұрын

I fell down such a skatingscores.com. hole this past week after you guys mentioned it on last weeks video! This time last year I knew nothing about figure skating and thanks to TSL it has slowly taken over my life lol ❤ 👍

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Patrick S you’re welcome!!! ;)

@Qacc6 5 жыл бұрын

P/C’s Tango this season really is the most classy one in terms of expression. There’s a restrained sensuality and subtle melancholy that is not seen in some of the other “in your face, look at our chemistry” type of RDs.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@arenia6303 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson You shouldn't argue about taste... but I would like to see a tango romantika where there are moments where I am slightly embarrased to watch... I would like some passion!!! (and so far the acting from p/c always seems false and forced to me. He has always the same expression, while she hase three expressions which varie from program to progam). This season I have yet to find a RD that I thouroughly like, where the dancers are dancing on the beat and where the presentation is truly believable. I am not a "virtue and moir" apostle, but i do have to say: I miss them.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

ar enia I miss them too! Taste is fun to debate!

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

ar enia Check out Shevchenko/Eremenko in juniors. They don’t have Carmen V/M level of chemistry but Sonya is selling the hell out of the tango and in the terms of the tango it’s the best interpretation I saw.

@arenia6303 5 жыл бұрын

@@justynazokiewska8223 Thank you so much! I just watched their RD and you are right ! Lets hope they can improve their technique! They are definatly a couple to watch

@carlairis3926 5 жыл бұрын

I'm obsessed with '94 Pairs. Please, please do that show, it sounds like heaven. I concur with an earlier poster: I think you two are being nicer, and I dearly hope it's because you've listened to us, not because Ashley's no longer here for you to bash. I fully support your speaking your mind about your opinions and especially saying things no one else has the nerve to say. But there's a difference between that and bashing someone who, face it, was a great competitor for US ladies and has oodles of charisma and love.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Carla Iris I don’t think we were really bashing anyone. Anyway, we are in a good place and let’s keep it going.

@timothyhh 5 жыл бұрын

WAIT -- it gets weirder. Annet P's second husband, Axel Rauschenbach, skated pairs with Mandy Wotzel before she teamed with Ingo. They (Mandy and Axel) were like 8th or 9th at the 92 Olympics.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Correct!

@tb4522 5 жыл бұрын

If Dave keeps singing, I'm going to request a duet with Jonathan! ;)

@MyKombucha 5 жыл бұрын

Btw, since you delivered that brilliant Katia Gordeeva inteview... Would you happen to have a Natalia Mishkutenok interview in the works? I'm sure a lots of us would love to hear her perspective on that era. :D

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

MyKombucha I would love to.

@MichaelinNeoh 5 жыл бұрын

Yes I remember the toilet moment and the horror on Jonathan’s face when he realized the toilet was in view.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

It was quite the memory!

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

Chock and Bates are supposed to be at Mentor Cup in Toruń, Poland, around January 11-ish? So we will see their programs before US nationals. I’m actually considering going there myself!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

LaChicaMadrilena we expect a full report of all of the facial expressions.

@Xosidhe 5 жыл бұрын

12:00 you guys forgot the best part of those Instagram stories-how cute Jun was when he didn’t know about Ina Bauer 😂

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

Another reason to love Dave and Jonathan: they like The Marvellous Mrs. Maisel 😍 Oh, and that outdoor rink in Paris is Grand Palais!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

LaChicaMadrilena thank you! It is stunning!

@aidaaman1742 5 жыл бұрын

Dave, your daughter Shcherbakova just won the Nationals!😂 I was lowkey hoping for Kostornaia to edge out all of them again, but alas, "quad lutzes" were landed and she had to settle for a bronze.

@gtestkey 5 жыл бұрын

Zhenya have changed that horrid short program, my prayers had been answered.

@arenia6303 5 жыл бұрын

Could someone post the german link for the documentary abour Jutta Müller? Thanks

@lauraa9600 5 жыл бұрын

www.mdr.de/meine-heimat/die-eiskoenigin-jutta-mueller-102.html

@almourie 5 жыл бұрын

The Zheyna situation is always so juicy, every week I come for the tea! I’m actually excited to see how she’s gonna perform to real classical music and w/ a gold dress!!? Orange colored sky? Don’t know her, I only know Tosca! lmao

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I really liked Orange Colored Sky the first time we saw it. That program would've required a lot of work with Sandra and David. It seems like they just didn't have time to develop the program while trying to address everything else. It was a good idea in concept. But with all of the changes, it makes sense to go with something comfortable and easier for her.

@elccollins99 5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson Was Sandra upset that Evgenia decided to change her short program at this point? Also do you think she will try working with Sandra or David again in the future?

@almourie 5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson agree it was too much to tackle in a short amount of time, especially since she took the summer off.

@rvsone1629 5 жыл бұрын

I definitely feel like Zhenya is more comfortable with classical/dramatic piece. Maybe at the start of the season she was in the right mindset for OCS but during the GP season she probably became more tense and it's a lot harder to get into a bubbly, happy character that OCS requires.

@sueecavanau 5 жыл бұрын

Dave - It might help for you to read about the "delayed waltz." It might explain for you about Gabriella and Guillaume's timing on the 1-2-3

@natalirios2510 5 жыл бұрын

at 12:58, i need that link please

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

Fabbri has a brother who skates btw 😊 His name is Andrea (and he skated with Misato before)

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@will74lsn 5 жыл бұрын

I hope Sui Han are going to come back strong! I also think they should stop trying the 3S which has been very inconsistent. Why not going for a well executed 3T (which they can do) and then « just » a combination of three doubles (e.g. 2F2T2L) which would give them 4-5 points if well executed (positive GEOs) with also the benefit of not disrupting the choreography with a fall or a ugly step out. The same would apply to the other Chinese couple.

@suzannefraser1319 5 жыл бұрын

where do you get access to the Jutta Mueller biography

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I linked it in the comments.

@MsPrincipessa1990 5 жыл бұрын

I found this German article from 2012 about Axel Witt: www.mz-web.de/sangerhausen/sangerhausen-katharina-witt-verschoenert-klinikeroeffnung-7069824 Apparently he is the manager of several hospitals. It says Katarina helped him out with a loan in 1994 to start his business.

@JACKstenN 5 жыл бұрын

What’s the title of the tosca evgenia using?

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Likely the main theme. It's a short program.

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

You ( Dave ) have been notably nicer recently... I feel like we asked you to be and you listened - maybe? Whatever it is - viewer feedback, Ashley being off the GPS, etc. - I not only appreciate it but feel like it’s allowed TSL to once again become more of a vehicle for learning about the world of elite skating and not solely (though I won’t say I don’t appreciate it!) gossip. Brava! I was particularly impressed with how you handled the Rosetelecom discussion of Gracie... Deftly and delicately and compassionately while still being honest (and I agreed with your collective assessment - i.e., that beyond bravery it was simply a bad career decision and that someone on her team/in her federation might’ve tried to intervene...). Re: disordered eating... I was wondering if Meagan might wanna talk about this, given her experience with holistic nutrition and generally positive, healthy attitudes towards athletes’ eating. (Also I think I probably speak for all TSL viewers when I say that I find everything Meagan has to say to be infused with wisdom and intrigue.) I wanna know about... Well, everything, but specifically: How does one recover from disordered eating (typically achieved via Intuitive Eating) while simultaneously being required to maintain an ultra-low-body-weight for sport?

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know if I have changed as a person, but I do think my perspective for covering skating and others things in my life have changed. I do think I was burned out and last season, it did feel like we were at the end of the line with a number of athletes who were full of hot air. The Americans haven't been 'in the conversation' in the ladies this season and that has made it much easier to discuss. I was very annoyed and fed up with a number of individuals/things in the sport by 2017ish and have shifted my goals a tad. I am glad you are enjoying the show. I don't think I would've covered Gracie that differently had it occurred a year or two ago. I do think this is just an unfortunate situation. I know that "intuitive eating" is a buzzword (term of the moment). We can certainly ask Meagan about it. She actually turned to Veganism to lose weight and was working with Julianne Seguin when Charlie ended the partnership and claimed she wasn't in shape.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Also, the Olympic season is very difficult to cover. The level of neurotic energy from all involved in the sports (fans included) is on another level.

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson Well excellent job, regardless... Really excellent content yet again. I’d be interested to know how Meagan handles that level of restriction while still maintaining a decent relationship with food; I’m a lifelong vegetarian and I could eat vegan for a week without even realizing, but once it’s a *rule* suddenly all I want it dairy and lbs creep on... Tried and true. That’s why Intuitive Eating - the book, the lifestyle, etc. - is what’s taught in ED recovery... i.e., To get back to a more “childlike” attitude about food where your eating habits all start from the belly and not from between the ears, so food is just this casual thing you live alongside instead of a demon to be conquered.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

JackAShepherd then again, as a kid, I wanted to eat junk. So I think some of intuitive eating is BS. In theory, it is nice. I do think it needs a rebranding of sorts. Going back to the nicer comment, I have also had to block a lot of fans who have had boundary issues over the last few years. I had to do it today as well. There is a certain separation that has made this season more pleasant.

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson LOL well Yes I think a lot of skating megafans are, ya know, tweens and teens, so that probably doesn’t help with boundaries and appropriateness :-/ Re: Intuitive Eating... Yes, true, we did all like junk as kids. But as adults I think most of us would agree that junk doesn’t make us feel our best, and it works ‘cause you become really in tune with your body and tummy and eat according to what they’re telling you rather than the feast-or-famine situation that goes on in so many of our heads (I naïvely tend to assume that guys can’t understand our distinctly female issues with weight and body image, but epidemiological studies don’t seem to support this notion). If this is something you’ve struggled with I highlyyy recommend reading/audio-reading Intuitive Eating or watching one of their lectures... The originals: Elyse Resch & Evelyn Tribole. It’s the basis for most ED recovery programs, at least in the US. It’s helped me a ton... I’m probably in the Gracie Gold phase (though I can’t do a 2Lz-2T like she did at CoR), haha, where I’m starting to come back into the world, and it’s all ‘cause of Intuitive Eating (and perhaps being a little older and wiser where I can actually put their plans into action, which I couldn’t when I was younger... I think you and I are the same age).

@RocketCandyColored 5 жыл бұрын

Completely agree about the free dance music for Papadakis/Cizeron. :(

@luckydoggysabrina 5 жыл бұрын

dave try typing '-katarina "axel witt"'

@lovisaaav6007 5 жыл бұрын

When are they talking about evgeina?

@caseyli5381 5 жыл бұрын

20:20

@origamis9477 5 жыл бұрын

They will start talking about Russians 18:55 , and will very soon get into Evgenia.

@lindaallison5338 5 жыл бұрын

1994 Pairs! Yes! Please do it! I still can't decide who should have won. If there was ever a case for a tie, this was it!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I feel strongly about the results. I am more than willing to have a deep dive conversation about it. We can actually use elements of the PCS and GOE to discuss the scores under 6.0!

@lindaallison5338 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson someone did an IJS video years ago but I felt it was biased towards G&G. I could write a thesis on this one but still might not come to a conclusion. Did Natasha two foot the 2A in the long, did Katia nearly face plant on the throw 2A, if M&D had better costumes and PR would it have made a difference, Scott Hamiltons "passion v perfection" BS....look out you've started something....

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Linda Allison so Scott’s argument was oversimplified. Katia did pitch forward on a throw landing, but saying her face almost hit the ice is an exaggeration. The other aspects of the throw would probably have it at about +1. M/D did tend to have lower GOE on lifts, throws and SBS jumps. Sergei did have some errors on minor elements. Arthur almost lost an edge on the straight line step at the end of the program and Natalia did two foot a 2A. Both programs were wonderful. I adore them both. In the short, the majority of G and G’s elements were far beyond the rest of the field: double axels, twist, death spiral, lift (Canadians also great) and spiral sequence. It will be a fun event to revisit.

@RakuRadio 5 жыл бұрын

All the Axels!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

So many!

@user-yj6wo8bf9m 5 жыл бұрын

It takes about 2 weeks for a person to recover from an average pneumonia case, this means that Tuktamisheva could be ready for late January and Euros. However, depending on her condition, they might decide to give a spot to Evgenia.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

It will certainly take time to regain her stamina, especially with an illness that impacts the lungs.

@pwetty4r4 5 жыл бұрын

AMOS'S free program. YES. I have literally been saying this since the first grand prix debut! sooo good.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

So good!

@Michael-fw9op 5 жыл бұрын

Love both programs, but I’m actually with Jonathan in that I prefer the short. I could watch the short all day, horn choreo and all. Also, I personally found Kevin’s kiss and cry banter hilarious. It’s nice to see a skater not pretend that their inflated nationals scores are actually legitimate. It was a real moment haha

@SpicyTwizzles 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to have you in the snow globe club!

@ashleynoelle1632 5 жыл бұрын

I actually think it would be so interesting to do some skating history on here talk about the plane that crashed before worlds other historic events

@sarrahsholdice5450 5 жыл бұрын

"We didn't send her to Congress, we had her talk to other countries about falling and getting back up." hahahaha

@ssalaria9531 5 жыл бұрын

Hello

@elccollins99 5 жыл бұрын

Will TSL be providing a Russian nationals recap or will be need to wait until after the holidays?

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

We will!

@aidaaman1742 5 жыл бұрын

+TheSkatingLesson dope, cannot wait!😍

@user-vi2iw3dy9p 5 жыл бұрын

Please interview Oksana Grishuk, she is on Instagram 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Would she be reliable? Not all of these former (or current) skaters have proven to be reliable guests.

@matthewhines9787 5 жыл бұрын

53:26 Anyone else pause to rewatch Kwan or G&G or Misty and Dmitriev? If so, you have to LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

About Spain dance situation I don’t think that S/D partnership has fully clicked. I like Olivia and I would love her to skate to Harry but Adri just feels flat for me in everything they skated by now. Like you do notice Olivia and that guy who’s there to lift her etc (with all my respect but sorry I feel that way) and that’s the main problem I have with those two. The other thing that I was open to like them but then Olivia became super shady on twitter and kind of rude (especially after H/K win this weekend) so I was like. Oh ho ney learn how to loose first. Also Zach 🤣behavior 13 yrs old style towards Olivia has me 😂😂😂 Adri is a Spaniard but I don’t get the Spanish vibe I would love to have from him. Especially when they skate a passion requiring dance. I was so mad seeing PCS after RD. Somehow S/D won in SS and H/K pattern was spot on and they were so much better ss and tech vise. Sara has to get those twizzles under control. But I think their partnership actually works. They are way more memorable than the other team and I Kiril gives me the impression of being much stronger male partner overall. I was first so weirded out by mashing up Harry and the Great Gig Over The Sky but it actually works.

@weldonwenturine3395 5 жыл бұрын

I agree When Carolina is not around we truly miss her. But remember Dave and Jonathan that Carolina was right in it for worlds last year, she had it in the palm of her hand. Cheer her on she is very much relevant!!

@disneynp 5 жыл бұрын

I have that Michelle Kwan Hallmark snow globe! And the Kristi Yamaguchi and Peggy Fleming snow globes! I didn’t get Tara Lipinksi. I believe Hallmark only released those 4 skaters.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

disneynp I did a KZfaq search last night. The Kristi was well done. I need to look for the Peggy snow globe. I don’t think the Peggy ornament really looks like her at all.

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

1:05 am here, sleep is overrated!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

LaChicaMadrilena hope you got some rest!

@minahbraun321 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely worth more than a cup of coffee! You should subscribe to their patreon! Maybe they'll get fancy mics one day!

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

@MsTeach3 5 жыл бұрын

Dave, I agree with you on Vanessa’s dress. I think what bothers me is the skirt is too short and the top needs more fabric. Overall the dress looks too small for her.

@marcgalvan9360 5 жыл бұрын

when is japanese nationals?

@antoniowu3089 5 жыл бұрын

December 21 - 25

@user-cn5yz1vb7q 5 жыл бұрын

Тренировка Evgenia MEDVEDEVA NEW SP "Tosca" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7Vdo72Uss-sdJs.html

@joanneolsen5635 5 жыл бұрын

You 2 are my favorite skating program.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

joanne olsen

@MsTeach3 5 жыл бұрын

I love your singing Dave! 😘

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thank you! I'm certainly not Jonathan!

@MsTeach3 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe not, but you’re pretty darn good! Always makes me smile.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I do love music!!

@knocturna9731 5 жыл бұрын

I think that P/C are too flowy to hit the beats in their FD.

@BillyWhaler 5 жыл бұрын

Using Michelle Kwan’s iconic Snow Globe as a magic eight ball was unnecessary and uncalled for. A national treasure who did not flutz, fib or use foul language.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Doug Dorsey lol.

@jenniferlongenecker1304 5 жыл бұрын

I have that snow globe!

@matthewhines9787 5 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Rauschenbach

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

If only they had one for Axel Witt!

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan: “A pretzel”?!? I think you mean an Auntie Anne’s. Or, if you’re on a cleanse like Dave, just steal the samples from the counter.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

Luckily my cleanse has ended!

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson Ultimately, Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down? PS: I saw you sipping GT’s kombucha once... It you haven’t tried their new(ish) Rose flavor... My new favorite.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

My cleanse was a great experience and I have kept the weight off. I also stopped drinking completely 9 months ago and it has really helped my stomach. I will try the Rose flavor.

@JackAShepherd 5 жыл бұрын

TheSkatingLesson Amen to that (stomach, alcohol). They should always serve kombucha at bars for those of us who don’t wanna drink.

@Kat240 5 жыл бұрын

Vanessa doesn’t have the turn out from the hip, but she has a nice arabesque ,

@marie-pierm.2628 5 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJyegaygu9-miGQ.html here is the competition jonathan talked about with diaz and hurtado 💁🏼‍♀️

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

MP thank you!!!! I was about to ask for that!

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

MP This is just gold. I’m surprised M-F is just sitting there, cool as a cucumber, but they were probably arguing in Spanish and she didn’t understand a word!

@danielavelascogracia8147 5 жыл бұрын

When are the russian nationals?

@aidaaman1742 5 жыл бұрын

Dec 19-23

@danielavelascogracia8147 5 жыл бұрын

@@aidaaman1742 Thank you

@TheGymnast71 5 жыл бұрын

Love the part about Jonathon's fat lady ornaments so true!!! Lol 🤗🤗

@melissatowner8556 5 жыл бұрын

We can all yell at Doug Haw! After Nationals, can he please edit her Tango!? I am asking too much now.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I don't think that he has that kind of input.

@user-vi2iw3dy9p 5 жыл бұрын

I’m from Russia, and I moved to USA in 1995. I can help you translate articles to English. Also I know info about Plushenkos older son, can send you private message, if you want.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

theskatinglesson@gmail.com

@jimmyplank9824 5 жыл бұрын

Disappointed that Evgenia gave up on Orange Colored Sky. The failure definitely reveals a significant hole in her artistry and mental toughness. Very strange to me how a person like her who always seems to be so happy and energetic can’t portray the same on the ice yet is comfortable in heavier roles that seem so unlike her.

@LostGirlLostGirl 5 жыл бұрын

She was happy when she was winning everything. She has difficult times now

@LostGirlLostGirl 5 жыл бұрын

Even in the times when she was relaxed and strong she didn't have such programs. May be her previous coaches knew her artistic abilities and her personality better

@almourie 5 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Plank I just think it was too much to tackle. She had to get used to new technique and new types of programs. Which is why I think it failed. Too much at one time. I don’t honk it has to do w artistic abilities because she sold it really good a test skates.

@LostGirlLostGirl 5 жыл бұрын

For me it is about her artistic abilities. She can perform the program which fits to her feelings. She was full of hope during test skates and program went well. She felt stressed and frustrated in France and couldn't even make herself smile during this program and the program fell apart. It is exactly about artistic abilities - to express the mood of the program despite what's inside you

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 5 жыл бұрын

She’s too distracted by the new techniques and the stress right now to skate to something happy. Hope she’ll bring the program back in the future when she gains her confidence back.

@TheAnnmjensen 5 жыл бұрын

The ending of this season of Mrs. Maisel was a huge disappointment to me. But, in general I enjoy it. The 1st season was less annoying than the 2nd.... but that is pretty typical.

@se7701 5 жыл бұрын

Oh just FYI Re Plushenko and Kabaeva and Khorkina in the Russian govt - this is nothing unusual, many sportsmen in Russia become Duma MPs after they retire - Sikharulidze, Rodnina, etc etc... 😑

@amberelibrennan 5 жыл бұрын

Lol I like that you read in a british accent 😂

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

It was more of a Dick Button affectation.

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

Omg I would love to add on more nations in to the 4Nats. Especially when ladies field is so weak. There is so many of them and we recently got a new lady from Russia who smashed the audience about 30 points and she’s like from the middle of the pack in Russia.

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

Justyna Żółkiewska I noticed it when looking at the results and was like, who the hell is that person and when did Poland get a semi-decent lady skater?!

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

LaChicaMadrilena it’s Ekaterina Kurakova. She and her parents approached our Fed not so long ago and she recently got a release from Russia. ISU Clearance Certificate is missing and she will be able to skate for us. It’s not a product of our system unfortunately but she skates daily under Brian and Tracy at TCC and her parents found her a private sponsor for that.

@justynazokiewska8223 5 жыл бұрын

@@LaChicaMadrilena It's also kind of funny, because her TCC training is sponsored by Mentor (company owned by Marek Kaliszek) ex president of our Federation (dissmissed due to legal things, but still on the fed board), and father of Natalia Kaliszek (half of ice dance couple).

@LaChicaMadrilena 5 жыл бұрын

Justyna Żółkiewska that’s so interesting, thanks for the info!

@tb4522 5 жыл бұрын

Can we make a rule that if you are pairs skaters, both wearing dark unitards, that the ladies white skates should be covered? I find it REALLY distracting. It isn't just the French doing this.

@TheSkatingLesson 5 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you! The line should not be detracted from.

@tb4522 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Its like they try on their outfits without their skates on or never watch their videos! Lol.

@sargeminus1727 5 жыл бұрын

David is the most handsome man ever in skating. His gigantic nose, gapped teeth, and crew cut are so sexy.

@aileenanelson8601 5 жыл бұрын

So late to the video, but I would 120% buy that t-shirt. Please tell Jonathan's friend there is a strong market for shirts emblazoned with Dick Button quotes.