The Last Alliance of Noobs and Men is in the underdog tier for credibility and knollege on the game, S+ tier for laughs and content .10/10 i love what you guys do

Here in Germany Black Riders are S++. If you can play it, you nearly always win. I am lucky not to have faced it, but i know people who have.

Really enjoyed this lads and enjoyably to contrast it to the thoughts and meta in the UK. The black riders LL has been horrific for me to play against so was surprised but interested to hear your thoughts! Keep up the good work and good content.

Outraged at the lack of love for Grand Army of the South. Harbinger can be crucial, and Mumak striking against enemy leader - or combat so potentially a second trample in a round! I always have so, so much fun with it and end up top third at events - which for me is unheard of! Solid A tier :D

faced Sharku's legion in a 175pt micro tournament (super fun way to play). Terrifying. Agreed that it doesn't scale well

Awesome detailed chat about legendary legions, i like cirith ungul and ugluk scout the most.

Great video lads, would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Assault on Lothlorien list at different points. Looking to build one myself at 1,000 points but struggling with making it look competitive at that number

Great video guys. Personally I’d have put Riders of Éomer higher. I’ve had a good bit of success with them and have even beat Black Gate LL twice while using them. That -1 to enemies Duel roll is actually pretty clutch.

I've had about a few games with the new Assault on Lothlorien LL at 800pts (list in comments) against a nice mix of armies, Corsairs, Rivendell, Iron Hills, new Dragon Emperor LL and Fiefdoms. They have an awful lot of potential. Very much a glass cannon though, low defence throughout the whole army. Against D6 and above your prowlers will probably want to piercing strike if you can't trap/outnumber them for the extra +'s which means they melt like a chocolate fireguard if you lose the fight... which will happen a lot since the vast majority of your troops are F3 or below. But if you do win, and you can take advantage of numbers they are like little angry tin openers. They are also just flat out really fun to use. It's my first time playing the named shamans and their spells separate or combined really do open up a lot of avenues for interesting play. Holding back a few spiders to keep that threat open along with a batswarm or two means your opponent has to be cautious with their heroes while the WWC's do the real work. Forcing ranged armies to come to you with a few goblin archers is always fun and with the constant +1 to wound they'll probably always pay for themselves if you position them well. For that reason I don't think it will suffer too much without march in the list. Anyway just some of my thoughts on them, they jumped right out as something cool to use. Sean could probably just transplant his 40 warg list straight into this with a few replacements of course and it would serve him really well. Far more bonuses to take advantage of at least since wargs don't take advantage of Angmars army bonus.

i challenge you for something really crazy. Make a tier list with Legendary legions, vanilla armies and most used vanilla aliances. Hahaha

Ya’ll need to read the Appendix, first Conquest, then you lads forgot Helm Hammerhand! How will I form an opinion on it if it’s not neatly stacked in a tier list??

Defenders of helm's deep is so skirmishy, bows who can sit at the back, the rest are all throwing spears and Aragorn can heroic move and march to stay out of charge range every turn

I've only just started the Rohan section but I'm re igniting the beef. I don't know if nobody over here uses black gate properly but Ive played against it a bunch at events and literally never lost to it. Also defenders is fantastic. Potentially one of the most slept on legion. Theodreds guard has been terrorising the UK scene but mainly in the hands of Ali who happened to win the national League with it last year Edit: The utter disrespect for black riders is interesting. Y'all's meta entrigues me.

Mega video

Im still salty no Elf list. Great vid guys.

I REALLY like Wolves of Isengard, but mostly from a themey standpoint. It is fun to play, however. It could have used some more punch. Maybe a wild warg chieftain and/throwing spears on character models. Some LLs just weren't designed to be super competitive and that's OK.

Great vid. Was Helm’s LL missed? I didn’t notice.

Great video! My take on some that I think you missed the mark. Drop BGO a slot. It power spikes nicely at 500-600pts but even then it aint all that and a bag of potato chips. Lurtzs scouts are high tier 3 or low tier two. The points you save with Mahur in Lurtzs scouts, and the fact you have a general you can throw around into combat a bit and the army all having the same move value make up for the lack of animosity and spears.

What exactly was the composition of the Assault on Helms Deep list please fellas?

Some of the forces you did not name and was hard to follow for newer players. But enjoyed the commentary and banter

Easterlings Tier list next then, I’m guessing?

39:23 "I love Assault" - Liam

The big question is who will be the first to put out a tier list of content producers?

Where does Black Gate open rank in here?

Beefy and Chiefy could be the name of ya'lls channel, if you ever change it. I wouldn't dare speculate on who's Beefy and who's Chiefy, though.

i like playing them but i am surprised you ranked the Rise of the Necromancer LL so high. there are several good counters (Khazad-Dum+ Thranduils Halls e.g.) and everything with high courage and/or elve blades will give you a hard time. its also one where you really have to know what you are doing.

I think vanquishers drops down after the nerf, and nazgul of dol guldur or whatever it's called also drops down. The rest seems fairly accurate

Army of the South is mostly really good if you grab the war leader and make him your army leader, that just makes him very hard to get around because taking down the Mumak without your leader is often impossible and those cancelled moves combined with free strikes makes your opponent burn might really hard.

Love the Chanel. I disagree on your assessment of Lurtz’s scouts. It’s quite better than the lower score you gave it. An army of F4 Strength 4, 8” move; add the drum and you outpace cavalry. Strength 3 Uruk bows. It’s best at 500+

How to construct an army list for MESBG- for beginners: kzfaq.infoiQ80ldvXt0g?feature=share

Surprised by Black Gate being ranked so high. Is it really doing that great in competetive play?

Lurtz scouts won 1st place at Adepticon (2nd biggest event in the U.S). Definitely better than ugluks.

Elf Legion please. -Jarek

One issue with your Army of the South. You have to take a Mumak which to me just hinders this list. And I agree that you would be better to take the original army.

easterling army tier plz

Time stamps please! Can we get some time stamps next time?

For someone new to the game it would be very helpful if you name the legion and not just say “the next legion on our list”. Of course it would be even more helpful if you would say (in one or two sentences) the core feature of that alliance. I guess for experienced players they just like to hear your take on their value in competitive play, but if you like to attract newer players as well, that would be helpful.

No Helm's Guard :(

What's the name of the fuck off tier legion?

Dale simps.

Total newb, is that F off list Assault on Lothlorien? Maybe not, that last one is AOL, I think.

Hi guys. Can you use timestamps for the categories, also name your pictures? Very hard to find the information I want.

Black riders are definitely S not B

Dale isn't higher than low B Tier. It would get slapped soo hard by most if not all LLs in B tier or above. 🤣 Actually put it in f**k off with vanquishers... Justice for the Lothlorien/ Thranduil Ll!😂