I'm going to do a complete build on a 650 Red Head engine. I will try and cover everything you will need to know. Its a lot to cover my email is Polaris.trashcan@gmail.com
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@TonyGeneseo3 ай бұрын
I know I’m a little late to the party but I really appreciate that you share your hard earned knowledge ! Especially that oiling mod ! That chamfering has to make such a difference rather than that sharp edge ! Just makes sense. Take care Todd 🍺🍺
@toddclyne34933 ай бұрын
Thanks and never too late 😁
@captainchrysler4686 ай бұрын
Nice clean build for sure. That has to be the most worn out dingle ball hone I have ever seen. That's awesome.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
It gets lots of use around here 😁
@captainchrysler4686 ай бұрын
I'll say I meant that as a badge of honor.
@jeffreypatton33216 ай бұрын
Had 88 650 ported and polished decker pipes Turned it 9200 rpms for 7500 miles never had a problem I set the oil pump richer than the stock marks
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
With the correct tune they just go and go
@just_in_time55186 ай бұрын
Love the honing trick in the parts washer! Never seen it done before going to try it one day for sure! Great build and detailed tips. Also oil mod seems like a great idea! Great video Todd! 😊
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. The parts washer just makes so much sense to me. 🤷
@triplehelper69446 ай бұрын
May you have clean and happy mineral spirits. 😆
@shawnbuckendahl19686 ай бұрын
This is going to be a fantastic series there Todd. I don't have a 650, yet. Shhh, don't tell the wife. 😂
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
😂😂 I know how it is.
@alfredpoitras60176 ай бұрын
🤣
@jeffpine30366 ай бұрын
I had a 650 with SLP pipes, then 95 XLT 600 no pipes. I kept blowing the motor on XLT, but my 650 was still going. Eventually i went with the two cylinder lyberty motors. those 650 are pretty reliable in my opinion. the coolant bolts above manifold would strip out here and there. one time my pto pipe shifted and melted the coolant hose, glad i begin smelling the hose melt under heat tape foil.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
They go and go
@user-rt8ik1ow4i6 ай бұрын
I always let every engine warm up,always
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Great advice
@TheDillio1876 ай бұрын
The beard is looking epic. Santa Polaris from the great white north.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ronwitt16 ай бұрын
Had a 89 500. First Polaris. Crank bearing failure at 2800. I think. That has always been a Polaris problem. Oil journal's are to small thus failure. My opinion. Your doing it right. Last much longer. Once again being a faithful Polaris guy .
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Hopefully it helps
@jeffpine30366 ай бұрын
Fuji 500 motors were pretty reliable, Imagine if Polaris had Fuji produce the motors today. No recalls, you'd think.
@borealmetalworx6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your experience and knowledge
@scottstrecker98676 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the next video
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Coming soon
@joshgessinger45096 ай бұрын
RXL was a good sled left stock but piped idk of one that ever ran right. Lot blew up if not maybe all of them. My father and i use to build 650’s bran new. Triple pipes porting milled heads. Some we just piped took a lot of knowledge in jetting abd clutching to make them run right. Never new of anyone that counted on a dealer that was happy after. Most the time blow up idk how many times i saw it happen. The pipe manufacturers jetting specs never right always lean sometimes really lean. So we blew a few up in the beginning learned to jet pig rich work ur way down. Found out with shitty clutching ur jetting will never be right. Trial and error always the best and patience don’t except perfect results the first time putting a mod sled together. I remember jetting being 2-5 sizes bigger than pipe manufacturers recommendations. Our clutching was never what they recommended either maybe some of it but never all. Like watching u work on the old triple Polaris’s what i grew up on. Snowmobiling was a different world back then lol!!
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
I have a feeling I could learn an awful lot from you. After porting one of my 650s with pipes and heads recut running a little bit of 110 with 93 I'm at one jet size over stock. Doesn't make sense but that's what the engine likes
@joshgessinger45096 ай бұрын
@@toddclyne3493 could be the race fuel. Race fuel will make a engine run rich with pump fuel jetting. But man ya 1 size above stock is surprising to me to. Like u said though if its what engine wants then run it. Clutching has a lot to do with jetting maybe a steeper cut helix say make a little more load might take more fuel to run that helix. Same with weights to heavy more fuel the engine might need. Maybe ur clutching is so good ur able to run with less fuel. But usually the more power a engine makes takes more fuel. More air equals more fuel but like I mentioned before trial a and error is the only way to really tune anything. Iv been surprised many times one thing might work on one machine but suck on another.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
@@joshgessinger4509 yep a suggested tune is only that. Just a starting point
@valhallaawaits68896 ай бұрын
Great video, appreciate you showing all the hard work that goes into a proper rebuild. Your passion is a joy to watch.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks
@IndyGuyRob6 ай бұрын
Great video Todd! One of my favourite motors!!! Really looking forward to this engine build series 👍 Keep up the good work! Cheers 🍻
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks and with your donations I hope it's running soon. 🍻😁
@troymodin16826 ай бұрын
Hell yea, keep up the great work buddy 👍
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@sparkey80606 ай бұрын
Simple with purpose wins the day! Great work as always Todd , Cheers!
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks Cheers
@dubiousf00d6 ай бұрын
I wish these types of videos were around when i had my 650 indy. Would have saved me so much money and time. Nice job Todd! Cant wait for the next one! 🍻
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
More to come!
@13booch6 ай бұрын
Love this! Great detail in this video. God I love sled videos.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@danagibbons96436 ай бұрын
Great work man 😊
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks 😁
@timm86546 ай бұрын
The triple king 👑 love the video man. working on my RXL still taking a little longer but having fun with my son doing it
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Great things take time. Good luck
@lynn42056 ай бұрын
Todd, just looking at my 01 587 case and you could champher the oil hole on the bearing side of upper case towards the PTO and MAG side of hole underneath to let oil get to outer side of bearing much better. Plus like you did, champher top side of hole too. Pto end one could drill down further in the square to get rid of TROUGH and then blend that towards left side of case ( looking at it from carb side of case ) to channel oil to bearing. My case has the oil line spicket already from factory. Also there is no reason you can't use a Bridgeport to cut a 570 to fit extended cylinder 650 cylinders. I believe ( not having one to measure) you would only be taking off .015 to say .020 per side( total .040 " ) and there certainly is enough meat to do that with. Just a thought for you as I sit here in 40 deg Florida weather. Lol. Have 3 P's in my garage down here. Never thought I'd stay so long. 31 years ! That's 29 years too long lol. I've got a 91 500 indy almost pristine ( 3600 miles on her as I remember), 99 XC SP 700 ( Johnny Cash special ) littering! And a 2003 Edge with a XCR 800, Fusion skid Walkers and Fox dual shocks up front from an 01 440 . Wish I were up there with the tripples and tripple tripples. Jonsey
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Great comment and sounds like you have the same ideas in mind on improving the oiling. I'll give that xcr 800 a home if it needs one 😁
@ThePolcat6 ай бұрын
Thanks for video. I am buying a nice 650 with blow engine. I Am going to build it right and then I’ll know what I got.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Absolutely I do the same thing
@Brianjohnson1224V6 ай бұрын
Great video cant wait to see how this 650 turns out. Hopefully we can get some rideable snow soon cuz this sucks
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Sucks bad
@Z-Bart6 ай бұрын
Good stuff Todd.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks
@jeremymullen53786 ай бұрын
🔥you sure do good work.. I like those lil oil updates, sure going to help that pto side eh. 16” Snow up here in north Bay Area, groomer made a pass on Sunday, how snow out your way 🔥👊🔥🔨🏍⚠️⚙️
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
No snow at all
@jeremymullen53786 ай бұрын
@@toddclyne3493 no way, usually you guyz have snow b4 us
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
@@jeremymullen5378 really bad year
@alecjagol24476 ай бұрын
Thank you Todd on this
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
😁
@brianwilber43476 ай бұрын
Great video!
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks
@toddkasper43846 ай бұрын
Great video
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks
@haydenrichardp37126 ай бұрын
I had an 88 650 and put 12,000 miles on it. Never any problems. It still had 120 lbs in each cylinder. Also , didn’t the newer cylinders have larger transfer ports ? I always checked oil pump settings. Even brand new sleds. And , yes I found some on the lean side.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
I believe it. Yes the 02 and up had better porting. I just didn't get into that yet. So much to cover 😁
@haydenrichardp37126 ай бұрын
I have a new 83 600 OE piston and ring if anybody needs it.
@Tortapounderwithcheese6 ай бұрын
Lol same for me im building a 91 indy 650. I pulled apart I think it was 6 motors looking for a good crank.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
They are such a pain in the ass to pull apart 😂
@garrettfriend47726 ай бұрын
Another good video Todd..you guys getting snow ❄ yet
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Nothing 😭
@garrettfriend47726 ай бұрын
Right...
@jennifercross56096 ай бұрын
Good video. I was looking at my shop my solvent is very flammable. A drill with Sparks I don't think that be good
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
I'm a risk taker 😁
@brandonhanson86826 ай бұрын
Great info.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Thanks
@fumotorsports72326 ай бұрын
A+ as always. Gotta ask, what cleaning solvent did you buy for your parts cleaner?
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Power blaster from O'Reilly's
@joshmcdevitt1906 ай бұрын
Have you thought about trying to find some old SLP DZ? And or RZ parts to put onto one of those for a late 80s/early 90s lake/trail mod? Resto runner
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
My eyes are always looking
@adamfamme7316 ай бұрын
Would you remove the cylinder studs to clean up the bottoms end with the sandpaper as well ? As always great videos ❤
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Like I said. I think it's risky trying to get them out without breaking them. I have tried to remove some to sell them and it's hit or miss if they come out.
@Jakefromstatefarmtv6 ай бұрын
I just finished a rebuild on my 96 RXL 650
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Nice
@alfredpoitras60176 ай бұрын
i got 3 of them motor and my argienal crank whent in it and i bout another one and found out it had a hair line crack in it and bout another all togather and running and there an awsome motor been throught a lot of over the years but tuff tho to me if treated right just hard to find over here in canada iam like the only one that i know of that has one and i have talked to alot of people about it and they never siad they had one
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Very popular here in the states
@kylebangs22666 ай бұрын
Great video,, what grit was the sandpaper you put on the bench to clean up the heads? I'll be building my 90 650 engine soon
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
320
@airman68226 ай бұрын
Nice one Todd! Are the Indy 650 and RXL engines different other than carb vs EFI?
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
In 90 91 and 92 carb or EFI the engine was the same.
@taylorbordelon79646 ай бұрын
Great video but It’s not a Todd Clyne video without a beer crack.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Good point!
@mjbruno52336 ай бұрын
Some things are designed to fail it creates a parts market.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
😂
@robertrpenny6 ай бұрын
Is that 650 made by Fuji or who? What do they say about mods to case oil passages? My bro was an assy line inspector in Roseau and I think he had a big twin 700 or 800. He had no problems that I know of but did say the triples had some. Like center carb having no main jets in some .
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
Yes the 650 is a fuji
@kirkc58236 ай бұрын
Do you chamfer the bearings to try and match the block? I don't even know what the bearings look like, just a thought.
@toddclyne34936 ай бұрын
You can't do that. Good idea though
@emersonbrandenburg96195 ай бұрын
I am having problems pulling the flywheel off my 650. I have a Kimpex puller. I will not come off. It will brake the puller before it even moves. Wondering what I may be doing wrong.
@toddclyne34935 ай бұрын
🤷
@alfredpoitras60175 ай бұрын
Whats the best bore size to go with if you were to bore out a 650 indy 2 sizees or 3 over ??
@toddclyne34935 ай бұрын
Just enough to clean it up. Boring does not increase hp. So save your bores encase you need to again
@chevysmith2736 ай бұрын
@toddclyne where to get new complete crank for xlt597cc triple single exhaust motors