Top 5 DOOM Eternal Runes in 5 Minutes!

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DOOM Eternal - My top 5 runes, in 5 minutes! I explain why I choose the ones I do, and why you should use them too. One in particular I've moved away from, yet it's one of the best, and others that you can't miss!
Hopefully this guide will help you understand which runes I feel are the best to choose, and help you conquer your goals and Ultra-Nightmare!
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@AquaGaming1607
@AquaGaming1607 4 жыл бұрын
I wish in air control wasn’t a rune but a suit upgrade. I wanna leave a spare rune for something like Saving Throw but in air control is too good to NOT have.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Man it’s so nice! I wish it was the default movement! Super glad we can get it as early as we do, rather than mid game like 2016. And that it’s more viable/usable, it rocked in 2016 too, just the other runes in that game were overpowered. I used in flight mobility in speedruns. It was kinda broken. Climbing up a mountain in res ops! And stuff
@moonmoon4537
@moonmoon4537 4 жыл бұрын
I was asking for this before doom eternal even came out haha, it should have just been a suit upgrade, and the most expensive one at that. Instead of fucking toxic waste resistance
@AliceGrimm97
@AliceGrimm97 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackskyirregular9876 Barrels can not only deal a lot of damage to enemies but also destroy weakpoints. Theres also an upgrade that makes barrels drop ammo too, which is also useful.
@lucaspanto1442
@lucaspanto1442 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the game is practically unplayable on higher difficulties without it
@acynique8029
@acynique8029 3 жыл бұрын
probably too late, but there is a mod for the game that lets you have air control on all the time as long as you have at least 1 rune equipped
@smrtt92
@smrtt92 4 жыл бұрын
long staggers are pretty sweet too, a staggered demon is one that's out of the fight
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
That it is! I love Dazed for the glory kill challenges. Gives me more time to set up. Super nice when I did my UN 100% run, where you have limited attempts, even as low as ... 1! Twice!
@michaelhansen8959
@michaelhansen8959 3 жыл бұрын
I use it. Many times get caught by the enemy when I want to do a glorie kill and he wakes up and kill me. Also the bosses stay longer staggerd
@r3l1csvk
@r3l1csvk 3 жыл бұрын
and pair the longer stagger with throwing yourself into a glory kill from bigger distance to max out your time for a glory kill,yknow bigger area to cover for the glory kill trigger+more time for its execution like "oh f..k,he´s so far and seems about to unstagger in a second...not with these two babies.".
@garymcderp1146
@garymcderp1146 2 жыл бұрын
Long staggers combined with Quick Glory Kill rune and the Glory Kill from far away rune is fun as hell. Since the rune makes even large enemies staggered much longer, using the Quick Glory kill rune enables you to GK several demons in a row reeeal quick.
@BigMacDavis
@BigMacDavis 4 жыл бұрын
Air control is above and beyond anything I've ever seen. Doom Eternal plays a lot like a platformer, and having air control in a platformer is almost borderline cheating, haha.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Man! Although 2016 wasn’t as platform intensive as Eternal, it was a crime giving you in flight mobility halfway into the game! (Then overshadowing it with other OP runes!) It’s legit and is my number 1!
@BigMacDavis
@BigMacDavis 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin It's my Number 1 too! I will not play Eternal unless I have Air control on! Haha!
@supershirtgun8411
@supershirtgun8411 3 жыл бұрын
this comment has an air of mystery to it
@hambone2133
@hambone2133 2 жыл бұрын
Big Mac Davis - This guy is a legend. I played through the original Doom games countless times and still couldn't figure out why or where many of the enemies were spawning in... He knows every nook and cranny of those games.
@Allstin
@Allstin 2 жыл бұрын
Awww yeah! 20% cooler walkthroughs 😎
@lucaspanto1442
@lucaspanto1442 3 жыл бұрын
Dazed and confused is also amazing, you can leave demons for ages and come back to them, and it prevents awkward moments when the demon recovers just when you go to glory kill, and you end up blood punching instead
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’ve used it more lately. It’s great for rooms with tons of enemies. Savagery is fun for hammer recharges too
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm kind of ok with blood punching enemies on accident, it's funny, plus if you use Punch & Reave you'll get lots of health if you're surrounded.
@rarity2299
@rarity2299 4 жыл бұрын
Love how you used Doom 2016 main menu theme as background music. Also you seem to have fun kicking oversized meaty footballs into the depths of canyons :)
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
It's such an awesome theme song! And yes, just watch all the rotations he does lol. Comical! :D
@quarth9396
@quarth9396 4 жыл бұрын
its interesting to see other peoples opinions on these runes. i think dazed and confused is very very strong, i can come back to enemies after i glory kill them, i can get health wayy more consistently and it renders an enemy useless. not to mention it gives you time to get some very sweet glory kill animations from different angles ;) and when it comes to positioning, i prefer being able to launch into glory kills from further away. again, makes it super consistent, i can reach pain elementals that are high up, i can get away from being cornered easily and paired with dazed and confused, its game changing for me and my playstyle.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice thoughts! What I find is that the rune selection comes down to either mobility or positioning - both involved with DOOM Eternal’s movement! If that isn’t convincing enough that movement isn’t a key element of Eternal, idk what is lol
@quarth9396
@quarth9396 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin i know! The feeling when you, ehem, YEEThook off of an aracnitron onto the high ground and start spamming rockets and sticky bombs all over them is so much fun. The dash and said meathook give the devs more room to work with, make the demons more agressive and have these amazing arena to fight in, filled with great level design.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I made a prediction video last September about aerial combat being important - and it came true! You are right! And the funny thing is, the term for a huge meathook fling in the speedrunning community is a yeethook 😛
@Llortor
@Llortor 4 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are amazing, and I love how simultaneously direct and comprehensive you are about how things work, it really satisfies the technical side of me that enjoys games like this. I think it's worth mentioning that being able to change runes at any time from the automap menu is very reminiscent of selecting spells or magics in older action RPGs, which works perfectly in a high-intensity platforming FPS. There are so many things about DE that feel like a perfect fusion of new and classic mentalities.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! With this video in particular (maybe it’ll become a series), I limited myself to “5 in 5” - a quick 5 minute rundown of what you need to know and why, about 5 things. This forces you to get across exactly what you need 😄 Ahh good call on the RPG similarity! I played those and MMOs. FF7, Runescape, Knight Online (aka WOW knockoff) Shame that DE doesn’t have a lot of rune swapping. Though too much messes with the flow. When I did Pistol Only No Equipment Nightmare in 2016, rune swapping was KEY!! 🤘 Glad you liked it, I will have more videos coming!
@certifiedGoof9812
@certifiedGoof9812 3 жыл бұрын
I think there should be a sentinel crystal bonus upgrade that gives give you one, or maybe even two extra rune slots in battle. They should combine blood for health and armor, and put that in the sixth place. Maybe that would be a little broken, but it would really help.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh extra runes would be game changing! You could have air control and even more! Or just more all around!
@ewanfraser
@ewanfraser 3 жыл бұрын
I always used chrono, blood punch health and equipment recharge. But I dropped chrono for air mobility. I just can’t give up healing and grenades. Grenades are so damn good.
@garymcderp1146
@garymcderp1146 2 жыл бұрын
I always used the Mid-air slow mo rune, the fast Glory Kill rune, and the Enemies Stay Staggered longer rune. I love activating the meat hook which keeps everything in slow motion while you’re holding the button/trigger, and gives you time to plan your next move. You can stagger several enemies from the air in slow motion, and using the other 2 runes quickly perform glory kills on several enemies in a row. I sometimes replace the Slow-mo rune with the Glory Kill from far away rune which is pretty awesome as it lets you close the distance faster than a dash.
@NaumRusomarov
@NaumRusomarov 3 жыл бұрын
equipment fiend + punch & reave (gives health from bp kills) + the shield mod = magic. it requires a very aggressive game play, you gotta get into their face and pay attention that you don't eat it from behind, but it's slowly become my favourite gameplay style in the ancient gods dlc. These two runes are invaluable if you wanna play like this.
@dope8878
@dope8878 4 жыл бұрын
I use the exact same as I used in 2016 and I hope to god they keep them for the next game. I use search and destroy (probably the most fun and useful rune in my opinion because it basically teleports you across the map to get health and allows you to get to places with the chainsaw and glory kills that jumping and dashing couldn’t). That combined with blood fueled allows you to teleport and fucking run right to wherever you want or run back to where you were. You can essentially speed like sonic throughout the levels with both of these tunes. Then I use air control because obviously it’s needed. I feel like search and destroy is super underrated yet one of the most fun zone things eternal has to offer because it allows you to play a bit more aggressively with a bit of a get out of jail free card. You need to be constantly getting glory kills but each glory kill is a repositioning tool as opposed to just a moment to breathe and a health pack.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Good write up! Time and time again I see people choosing the mobility and movement runes. That says how valuable they are to Eternal’s movement. Plus seek and destroy in the berserk room in ARC is nice!!
@certifiedGoof9812
@certifiedGoof9812 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the faster weapon and mod swap (is that a rune? can't entirely rememeber) is a good one. I'm constantly switching in a fight, so having that can be a lifesaver. Long staggers is also really solid. Great for getting you that extra time to kill Cacodemons, Pain Elemantals, and whatnot.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Dazed is great especially in the new horde mode mod by proteh! That’s hot swapper, a 2 token suit upgrade. And it’s amazingly good
@lonegamer1685
@lonegamer1685 4 жыл бұрын
Seek and destroy is an underrated rune it deserves more credit its good to use if you are in a sticky situation and a fodder or and demon is staggered from a distance
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Especially with berserk it can feel like you are teleporting around the room as you just hit hit hit
@AJ-qf6qi
@AJ-qf6qi 3 жыл бұрын
I like savagery because you can combine the meathook with glory kills to get armour and health. It also works really well with blood fueled, I love the adrenaline rush from doing a fast snappy glory kill and then darting around the map. I've started using Air control having never paid much attention to it before and I'm starting to dig it...as I try to incorporate aerial movement into my combat more I find it really pays off.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah doom eternal is aerial. I made a prediction video back in sept 2019 that rings true today. Savagery is cool for that, I tend to use equipment fiend (meathook recharging flame belch. Nice) or dazed if it’s a busy map/ player made one. Blood fueled for absolute sure. Also did in 2016 pistol only no equipment
@hewhoisme4343
@hewhoisme4343 3 жыл бұрын
Over time ive gotten good enough that im okay with using savagry, just because glory kills feel so damn powerful when its active
@VaderTheWhite
@VaderTheWhite 3 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with Air Control: it makes the double jump sound like it's about to die any moment and it is just am awful sound.
@kennedyozuoka8431
@kennedyozuoka8431 6 ай бұрын
What are the control buttons for air control in Nintendo switch pls?
@TheBeansprout
@TheBeansprout 3 жыл бұрын
This will help a lot with the UN run I was talking to you about
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Alright!! 😄 that is good
@TheBeansprout
@TheBeansprout 3 жыл бұрын
Allstin I know !
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any real benefit to savagery, I see a lot of people using it but I don't see the main reason glory killing faster does you any better
@jasonalcatraz5817
@jasonalcatraz5817 3 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to this dude for getting into the topic of the video in less than 10 seconds rather than dragging it on when we already KNOW why we are here.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I try to get into stuff quickly. Sometimes it takes a little longer to set up, just depends. This one was quick
@jasonalcatraz5817
@jasonalcatraz5817 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Exactly, it varies to varies, but I tire of videos where they feel they need to explain the whole game first before getting to the subject, even when the subject is something late game players are looking for, so they already know how the game works and don't need a reminder. This is one of those topics. Most people looking at runes in DOOM ETERNAL already know what they are, how they work and why they're important. We don't need an explanation, just the individual runes. That's why I'm so pleased to see how quickly you get into things. It's a lost art. On another note, I never tried Air Control before, so I'll be equipping that rune now thanks to you. Who knows, I may never take it off.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonalcatraz5817 there ya go! My video today on combat analysis, and trigger enemy videos, are super deep and need a little lead in Air control, if you find it’s for you, will make you a better player. I BET. I’m serious. You will excel if you use it well and it works for you Come in the discord and let us know how it goes
@jasonalcatraz5817
@jasonalcatraz5817 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin I'll be trying it out for sure. I wish to take flight for the Doomslayer.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonalcatraz5817 it helps your mobility in movement SO MUCH
@BOnEhEAdD
@BOnEhEAdD 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, these are some great videos for us who are quite familiar with Nightmare but have some mess to clean up for UN ^^ Have you thought about making a video on how exactly does health gating work in D:E (since you touched on it in the Saving Throw part)?
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’d need to do more research on it, but one interesting thing I found, when I played on triple damage, I often didn’t get the gate. Maybe it’s cause I recovered a life and lost it so quickly (as I believe having armor gives you that chance too if you’re hit), but I often bypassed the threshold it seems. So saving throw felt useless. On 2x testing it worked better
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Btw, if you want some UN tips, I have a guide I’ve posted around in the discord, as well as doing a strategy stream (technically today, Friday!)
@BOnEhEAdD
@BOnEhEAdD 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Allstin Already got a reminder for that one ;) And yea, I already watched the 3x video, in which case i figured it must be because of how the multiplier factors into the damage taken calculation ... I personally know this mechanic from high level Borderlands, Risk of Rain and similar games, where it typically suffices to know a general information such as "No single instance of damage will ever kill you if you're above x% health", which already provides a good psychological cushion. But in D:E, I haven't even been able to figure out where it's a percentage or a flat amount...
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Hope to see ya there 🤘 And yeah with DE, to my understanding, say you have low hp, but armor, you’ll tank the hit - but I’d need to clarify a little with the person I was speaking with. Because I wouldn’t want to risk a low health situation in a serious run! You can definitely tell it’s in play - and that, once you hit it, as you see you can still take tiny damage from fodder, but it’s extremely risky! One time I was on UN, final arena Cultist Base, fell off the map, spawned back into a pack of heavies, was taking damage before I could even move. By then, it was game over! Sorta related, sorta not, but man that one sucked!
@Siwwy
@Siwwy 3 жыл бұрын
I always have equipment (for equipment cooldown) ruin, savagery (for meat hook glory kill-get more armor) and air control (MY MUST HAVE)
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Air control is my number 1 - you use it literally all the time!
@arthurmorgan1724
@arthurmorgan1724 4 жыл бұрын
I don't use Saving throw usually . It was quite useful in doom 2016 but I have now 33 extra lives so it is useless .
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Saving Throw shines in Ultra-Nightmare, when it is your ONLY extra chance :o
@arthurmorgan1724
@arthurmorgan1724 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin I also noticed that saving throw and chrono strike are connected . Is it true
@ArchRevival
@ArchRevival 4 жыл бұрын
My go-to runes are Air Control, Dazed and Confused, and Savagery. I find Dazed and Confused to be incredibly useful and convenient!
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Dazed is nice because you get that extra time of the enemy being disabled on the battlefield. I do wonder the difference in time, when comparing the extra distance from Seek, and the extra time from Dazed. But they’re both different. Dazed is the MVP in the glory kill challenges for 100%, that’s for sure! 🤘
@Kackspack0815
@Kackspack0815 3 жыл бұрын
Once there was a video on YT in which was quite sophisticated explained how much time is saved through Equipment Fiend. Sadly I can’t find this video anymore. 😐 The saves were everything but impressive.
@soulsurvivor2706
@soulsurvivor2706 2 жыл бұрын
I go equipment fiend, blood fueled and I’m trying to get used to air control
@swaowf
@swaowf 3 жыл бұрын
the only level I used chrono strike was urdak. quick scoping maykr drones in a small arena with heavies and super heavies can be tough
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
It’s such a HUGE help there! Also with dot crosshair, and an unmodded ballista! Try that! And freezing the drones too. Chainsaw too!
@r3l1csvk
@r3l1csvk 3 жыл бұрын
tbh it is actually nice not only for drones but also enemies with destroyable mechanical parts as well such as arachnotrons,mancubi or revenants,but aye,drones are the most obvious.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah it gives you time to think for sure
@hundinger1
@hundinger1 3 жыл бұрын
I just tried blood fueled and it's great. I'm a notorious glory killer, I even do them when I don't have to and now I have a justification. The game is crazy fast now. I had a hard time deciding what to swap out. I had to keep air control, that was out of the question. I love my equipment and I really like dazed and confused because coming to late for a glory kill can hurt a lot, especially with mancubi. For now I decided to get rid of equipment fiend. As many said, air control should be default. It's absolutely essential and I would try out different runes a lot more if I had that third space for experimentation.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE air control! Blood fueled gets you OUTTA THERE when you need out! It's not perfect but you can combine it with ice bomb, chaingun shield etc. Dazed is amazing for the glory kill challenges, especially the archvile and tyrant ones! And doom hunter. All of them really honestly!
@oye6124
@oye6124 4 жыл бұрын
I typically run blood fueled dazed & confused and equipment fiend just to keep the gameplay fun. I like the aerial movement i could have, but i really love glory killing more than movement
@oye6124
@oye6124 4 жыл бұрын
Dazed and confused is so i have options when i want to do my favorite glory kill
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I definitely use dazed for the glory kill challenges. That extra setup time is so helpful! And it sounds like for you too - having that extra time to set up the one you want!
@oye6124
@oye6124 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, only recently did i find out how truly helpful it is to keep me engaged when i tried to do a specific glory kill on a mancubus about a mile away and i got blasted
@bekartdiaba7055
@bekartdiaba7055 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have a problem, I finished the game, and i don't have all of the runes unlocked.. I've 100% almost every missions
@Icarus975
@Icarus975 5 ай бұрын
Dude I wish you had MORE subs omg
@Allstin
@Allstin 5 ай бұрын
thank you! that’s a compliment! i do have an entire playlist and then some on here, “DOOM Eternal Combat Analysis”
@_Shooty
@_Shooty Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am wondering what is the song in the background at 2:04. Please?
@Allstin
@Allstin Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I use dazed and confused now in place of equipment fiend. It’s nice! And that is the menu theme from DOOM 2016, called “Hellwalker” - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLB5a61107KsY40.html
@_Shooty
@_Shooty Жыл бұрын
You made my day Allstin!
@Allstin
@Allstin Жыл бұрын
@@_Shooty sweet!! Glad I could help 😃
@propoppop9866
@propoppop9866 3 жыл бұрын
For me saving throw and the increased glory kill distance rune was mandatory
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Saving throw is AMAZING when you need it! Seek and destroy does let you grab them from really far away
@thethinglast5672
@thethinglast5672 2 жыл бұрын
My favourites are 1.air control 2.dazed and confused 3.blood fuel 4.break blast 5.chrono strike
@Allstin
@Allstin 2 жыл бұрын
Great choices! I use dazed now
@WarframeCrunch
@WarframeCrunch 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have experience with Chrono strike? Does it teach you better aim when you try playing without Chrono strike or does it makes you not learn how to aim? I'm just curious. Because without it my aim is better and I never used this rune because in my opinion it's a little bit of cheating.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really like relying on it - but there's no denying it's power!
@raptyrn1290
@raptyrn1290 4 жыл бұрын
HA! GOTTEEM
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Haha good catch! I remember throwing that in there lol
@zekeram129
@zekeram129 3 жыл бұрын
Air Control is so good it shouldn't even be a rune, it should be the default jump style. It's the Brawl Meta Knight of runes.
@jochen4207
@jochen4207 3 жыл бұрын
I personally can't deal with air control. Used to use it A LOT in Doom 2016, but it was more of a curse rather than helpful. It'd kill my muscle memory, since I'm used to a specific air movement, and changing that would result in me fucking up multiple jumps
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t use it in 2016 outside of Speedrunning (some parts it was required as it was broken to climb up stuff), but the other runes there way overshadowed it. If they didn’t, I’d use it more. Which I kinda did on pistol only no equipment in VEGA train room. Really just depends on preference
@purplefloyd1513
@purplefloyd1513 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been running 1,2, and 3 the whole time. Nice
@Allstin
@Allstin 2 жыл бұрын
There ya go! I’d now add dazed and confused to this list too!
@purplefloyd1513
@purplefloyd1513 2 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Yeah I’m going to try some other variations now, but I am keeping that air control because it fundamentally feels weird without it. Cool video as always dude
@theramsrule
@theramsrule 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see the difference between console and pc players when it comes to runes. I'm on ps4 and find air control doesn't really help me that much, might be my playstyle though. I always run dazed and confused, savagery and chromo strike. Definitely my go to's.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting test! I only have pc so I couldn’t compare it myself though. It may depend, some people do amazingly without air control. Look at Byte Me, one of the best out there, but doesn’t use it. Dazed is great for more time to keep an enemy at bay, though I like to kill them when able, though dazed is AWESOME when going for the glory kill challenges! savagery gets you in and out quick, and chrono (especially without a mouse) helps you land those shots, and actually has more benefit than just that.
@Geassguy360
@Geassguy360 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Well for ref I play on controller and Air Control is an absolute must have. I also rebound my jump and dash to L3/LB tho.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played much at all on controller so I don’t have that experience, but I do know that I love air control too!
@RealCraft
@RealCraft 4 жыл бұрын
my favorite is the dazed and confused because
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Dazed is GREAT for 100% runs! Because of the mission challenges that require glory kills. Especially the ones with the single monster you have to get. It definitely has usefulness.
@iBassCrazi
@iBassCrazi 4 жыл бұрын
Air control is my favorite!
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
The mobility and positioning you can get with it! It’s just so handy and helpful to save you in combat, and awesome in platforming. It just feels better. I loved in flight mobility in 2016, but didn’t use it outside a speedrun really. The other runes were just beast there. OP
@Soma_Shotgun
@Soma_Shotgun 3 жыл бұрын
5. I think it's an amazing rune for very first playtrough and doesn't hurt to have one an ultra-nightmare run/attempt. As a more experienced player however, it's not that useful and I feel bad using it. 4. It's really good but I just prefer Punch And Weave so I don't personally use it. 3. One I use regularly. Not only helps you escape but also to be more agressive. It gives me such a rush, I love it. 2. It's cool but for some reason I never really liked it. I guess it just isn't for my playstyle. 1. No contest. The only rune in the game that shouldn't be a rune. I would make it the default movement.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Yes chrono sticks out, I don’t really use it, but the power it holds is super strong! Saving throw does help to give you another chance if you restack properly when you are in the gray screen. That second chance to restore can mean a lot when used right I think. Keeps you alive and in the battle. In last night’s stream I made use of it for sure on the challenge run at the boss!
@empathylessons2267
@empathylessons2267 4 жыл бұрын
For me, #1 Savagery ("No time gotta go"), #2 Blood fueled ("Gotta go fast"), #3 Air Control ("The floor is lava!") These 3 give me so much more of a safety net than Saving Throw or Chrono Strike ever did. Need a speed boost during a marauder? Just quick glory kill something and make that distance. Any heavy demon? Meat-hook yourself into the air, and keep yourself in the air with air-control and meat-hooking the heavy in focus, chipping away at its health with the ballista in between hooks.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like that movement based runes really are beneficial, especially with Eternal - that’s something all of yours have in common, and you know how to recognize that and use it to your advantage. It’s so important! 🤘
@empathylessons2267
@empathylessons2267 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin oh for sure, and blood-fueled turns the chainsaw into a get out of jail free card. The fact it gives a boost after using the chainsaw has saved my ass so many times.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Dude blood fueled is amazing! Even in 2016 when I did nightmare pistol only no equipment it’s a life saver. Like a continuous dash or haste. There’s a reason it makes it into my top favorite rune slots and always is on the use! It feels so slow without it! ... And now I get your feels about savagery and feeling slow without it lol
@empathylessons2267
@empathylessons2267 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin haha my 2016 loadout was so different than Eternal, I just went for the infinite ammo and armor from glory kills (forgot what my third was) and then it was just spamming Gauss on everything lol. Much respect for a pistol only run, that sounds impossible!
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
It teaches you a lot about the game! Hard to believe Byte Me did it on UN. The only person! He taught me the trigger enemies for this arena. That was so vital! Done around Christmas Eve: clips.twitch.tv/BovineTriumphantHamburgerGingerPower Here’s VEGA Train Room. Took me 18 minutes on my successful attempt! Total 2 or 2.5 hours And that wasn’t even my worst challenge run arena lol
@DrSmoke2104
@DrSmoke2104 3 жыл бұрын
Well, one thing I didn't know is that the SSG meathook kills charge your flamebelch! I wish I knew this before completing the game twice.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
With the equipment fiend rune it counts as a flame kill 😄
@DrSmoke2104
@DrSmoke2104 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin OK. Since you said this, why does the glory kill after a meat hook sometimes work and sometimes doesn't
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
For giving armor? Use savagery - for blood punch you probably mean? Probably just the connecting having issues, if you’re in range it should work but I know there’s some adjustments in the works for blood punch at least
@DrSmoke2104
@DrSmoke2104 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Yeah.. sometimes I glory kill with a meathook and get armor and sometimes doesn't .. should I use equipment fiend to get armor? Or what? I use never use savagery so I don't think it's the right skill to use
@lucascasey8869
@lucascasey8869 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t use chrono strike, as I don’t use the precision bolt (which is the only thing I’d use it for). I use equipment fiend, but now I’m turned to blood fueled. I like dazed and confused, as it allows me to play an arena like this: “Ok, that Mancubus is staggered. Let’s take care of the rest of the heavies. Wow, that was a lot of ammo used. I should recharge on this mecha zombie. OH NO! Surprise mancubus hit! Is the other one still staggered? Yes? Ok good, let’s get some more health.” And that to me, is very important.
@lucascasey8869
@lucascasey8869 4 жыл бұрын
And I forgot that I’m in love with air control.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I would definitely encourage you to look into precision if it works for ya! It's a great weakpoint remover, high damage, precise shot that you can quickswitch. All those runes are great - dazed and confused especially for 100% runs, when you have glory kill challenges, especially those with a single demon in the level! Miss one on an Ultra-NIghtmare run, and it's over! But your use of buying that time definitely has value as well. Nobody likes surprise mancubi!
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE IT! It got overshadowed in 2016, getting it halfway through the game, and having OP other runes, plus less platformy flying around like Eternal. If I could only use 1 rune, this would be it. Hands down! 100%! A lot of people seem to really love it here!
@lucascasey8869
@lucascasey8869 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t use chrono strike because I’m not incredibly good at hitting weak points (I can manage it if I need to, but I have a pretty high chance of hitting nothing). If you want a person to compare my play style to, it’d be Under The Mayo.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it helps versus weak points, giving you more time. And nice, we talked in the interview we did about playstyles and strategies, to kinda see how Mayo likes to play, that’s cool
@DeviousKid45
@DeviousKid45 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of air control. It just doesn't feel natural to use. Chrono strike just hinders the timing for the weapon mods. That said, what I use everytime in Nightmare is Savegery, Seek and Destroy, and either Blood Fueled if I want more speed or Punch and Reave if I want to go up close and personal. Quick note: Savagery is affected by Blood Fueled.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a gk heavy set that, like a lot of other runes, is based off movement. It just shows how important movement and positioning really is in the game, you know? We use different setups, yet the core is the same. 🤘
@DeviousKid45
@DeviousKid45 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin I just love glory kills so much that I like doing it fast and I like chaining a lot of glory kills together. Try it. It's fun.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
I love blood fueled cause you get that huge boost after a gk
@DeviousKid45
@DeviousKid45 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Yeah. The fact that your Savegery rune gets a speed boost as well makes you this one fast glory killing machine. Couple that with Seek and Destroy and your practically teleporting all over the map.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about savagery - it’s great for speed, gk and just be done with it. I like without it cause i get the i-frames longer and get time to assess what to do next. Though it can be detrimental as being in a gk longer means enemies can crowd around you or set something up
@mrspacebun
@mrspacebun 3 жыл бұрын
My favourites are air control, blood fueled, savagery and seek and destroy
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Gk heavy. Have you tried blood fueled? It rocks
@mrspacebun
@mrspacebun 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Without blood fueled the game feels a little slow, it sure is an amazing rune XD
@pugtimusprime5074
@pugtimusprime5074 2 жыл бұрын
lol none of my runes were in it im a glory kill player so i do faster glory kills, launch into glory kills from further away , and longer daze
@Allstin
@Allstin 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using dazed and confused now! It’s super nice to have them staggered longer! I haven’t jumped into the others really much
@McGeezle
@McGeezle Ай бұрын
2:29 why is he rolling along an invisible floor? Come on iD that's piss poor
@musictorin
@musictorin 3 жыл бұрын
My favourites are the ones that speed up the game, like more air control, fast glory kill, and speed boost after glory kill Edit: I will now be calling the meat hook, yeet hook
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
That's a real term in the speedrun world for the meathook! And nice choice of runes, all working together :)
@navid617
@navid617 3 жыл бұрын
Chronos Strike is no doubt an really powerful rune, but I stopped using it because it just breaks the pacing of the game for me. I would actually prefer if it didn't activate every time I use a weapon mod mid air.
@Geassguy360
@Geassguy360 4 жыл бұрын
My setup: PC with controller. My runes: Air Control, Blood Fueled, Seek and Destroy
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Good choices! Have you noticed any changes with Seek and Berserk?
@Geassguy360
@Geassguy360 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin I'm pretty sure they still work together, if that's what you're asking? Definitely seems to clear that restaurant fight very effectively, I've gotten it early in the fight and managed to make it last the whole thing.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
I heard they nerfed seek there but I’m not sure, not so?
@Geassguy360
@Geassguy360 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin Doesn't really seem like it, but it's hard to tell honestly when I'm just mashing that trigger, filling the screen with berserk animations over and over. Seek and Destroy overall has def been nerfed, that's for sure (I still find it useful enough to use, can get you around demons in sticky situations) but I haven't noticed any real changes between how it works in regular gameplay vs berserk.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm I messed with it on berserk the other day, it seemed weaker maybe? Idk though
@silvowitch
@silvowitch 4 жыл бұрын
Savagery has the hidden benefit of enabling you to use flaming meathook on to a demon and finish them with a glory kill for armor. Since the glory kill is faster you will manage to get the kill before the flaming meathook debuff vanishes. Instead of always having to gun them down with the super shotgun. This also gives you HP as it's a glorykill. Personally I use Savagery, Dazed and Confused and the last rune I alternate between Air Control, Equipment Fiend and Saving Throw for bosses. I feel that without Savagery the game slows down and glorykills feel sluggish and slow.
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yeah I’ve seen Mayo do that trick! If the enemy is staggered and you go in for it? Nice combo there. The GK speed is definitely quicker with savagery, gets you in and outta there. I like the extra time to think that you get even if it’s slower in a way too. Dazed is great for those GK challenges absolutely, I throw it on then. EQ Fiend is a bit low on the recharge, but killing mass enemies will help that. Though that’s not really the goal for equipment. Nice to have though if you wanna use equipment and have it back sooner! Saving Throw for that safety absolutely. Air Control is my go-to. You can still do good movement managing dashes without it. But I love how you can zip around and do things you couldn’t do without it
@pumpkinmaster3465
@pumpkinmaster3465 3 жыл бұрын
IT’S
@manni8688
@manni8688 3 жыл бұрын
HA! GOTEEM
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
NICE! 😄 haha.
@Inf4mousKidGames
@Inf4mousKidGames 4 жыл бұрын
*sees air control skip* .......... You mean to tell me..... The one section of the game I have the most issues with...... Could have easily been avoided if I just..... Did that??!??!!!?!!?
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
You can! 😄 That part messed with me at first too, you basically have to time your double jump to be at the apex of your first, or as you are falling - doing it too early leads to you not getting enough distance
@Inf4mousKidGames
@Inf4mousKidGames 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin 🤯🤯🤯🤯
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
Inf4mousKidGames try it out! It does work still 😄
@Inf4mousKidGames
@Inf4mousKidGames 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin oh i did and with chrono strike it's a god send
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Chrono is way better than people give it credit, thats for sure! I’ve thought about talking on it. But it did make my top 5 runes in 5 minutes video list!
@NaumRusomarov
@NaumRusomarov 3 жыл бұрын
air control shouldn't be a rune. it's not something you can live without.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve grown to love it. I used it in the 2016 speedrun I did, since it let you slide up slopes and even a mountain outside res ops!
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 3 жыл бұрын
someone else said it should be a praetor upgrade and i completely agree. personally, i'm currently doing an unfavored mods/runes run. that means only being able to use the gun mods and runes i rarely touch (micro missles instead of precision bolt, etc), and lemme tell ya, Eternal is a different kind of fun without Air Control. instead of constantly weaving in and out of attacks, you'll be flying in one direction midair only to halt your momentum and fling yourself in another with your dash. it really forces you to be even more deliberate with where you choose to go. no more easy escapes.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love air control. 2016’s rune in flight mobility was nice too. It was required for certain parts of the speedrun I did. To scale slopes and little mountainsides
@yalkn2073
@yalkn2073 3 жыл бұрын
Saving throw is bad, just don't die
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the optimal way, but sometimes... DOOM crushes ya!
@jaxleroux9133
@jaxleroux9133 3 жыл бұрын
Ha godtey
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz 2 жыл бұрын
Slow mo and rune for recovering extra life. Rest is dog shit but I put longer stagger und super punch gives health upon explosion Didn't watch video yet
@Allstin
@Allstin 2 жыл бұрын
I also have an updated version in a video!
@vegitoblue2187
@vegitoblue2187 3 жыл бұрын
chrono strike feels terrible with meathook tbh
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on your goals - if you are just casually flinging, don’t need to use it. If you want a super fling, it lets you go very very far
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abSJftiiqLbGZmQ.html The last fling in this video is due to chrono, it negates the need for high fps for flings. It goes crazy
@vegitoblue2187
@vegitoblue2187 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin i do a lot of flings in fights for glory kills in a pinch or for getting distance from heavy damage foes
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
Yea in that case I’d agree, normal fights don’t use chrono for the hook that’s okay, but for the big mars core flings where you are going for distance to travel, you gotta have it I’m with ya
@vegitoblue2187
@vegitoblue2187 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin is it that you can chainsaw arachnotrons from the side? Almost died today trying that
@bigimp3018
@bigimp3018 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Gotty
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
How’d ya like it!
@bigimp3018
@bigimp3018 4 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin *Y E S*
@initialj9915
@initialj9915 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot play this game without air control.
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
The BEST rune. If I could only have 1, ever, this would be it. It just makes the game more FUN for me
@initialj9915
@initialj9915 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin you have spoken
@Allstin
@Allstin 3 жыл бұрын
@@initialj9915 I get used to it on the first map without it, but it’s the first rune I grab. Some time ago I tried grabbing chrono strike first. But air control wins
@initialj9915
@initialj9915 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin obvious like play without air control is like put ultra nightmare in your first time playing a doom game or a shooter Air control is love.... Air control is live
@initialj9915
@initialj9915 3 жыл бұрын
@@Allstin i unequip Air control to see how was play without air control and it’s impossible It’s really hard to move man. Like this game is high ground you always gotta have the high ground or...ok im gonna call my play style daisy because I just can’t stop jumping. So yeah daisy combat style.
@takatsukiishida
@takatsukiishida 4 жыл бұрын
lol imagine if I waste my saving throw on gladiator
@Allstin
@Allstin 4 жыл бұрын
At least it keeps ya alive!
@NyoMurdi
@NyoMurdi 4 жыл бұрын
Gladiator’s probably the biggest run ender so not a bad place to use it 😂 Tho still a lot of game left after that boss
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