Blacksmithing - Making a spring swage (12mm round dies)

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Torbjörn Åhman

Torbjörn Åhman

9 жыл бұрын

In this video I show how you can make a spring swage.
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@lukelaughlin52
@lukelaughlin52 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you blacksmith in short pants.
@garysumlin8355
@garysumlin8355 3 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody did the easy way
@IronheadOfScroteus
@IronheadOfScroteus 9 жыл бұрын
How many guys who have welded find themselves closing their eyes or squinting when you see a guy in a video about to strike an arc?
@solarhawk77
@solarhawk77 8 жыл бұрын
IronheadOfScroteus I looked to another part of the video. 2 years of welding habit can't be undone by years and years of not doing it. I haven't ever had an arc flash headache, and I intend to keep it that way.
@Rottinrock
@Rottinrock 7 жыл бұрын
even with an electric hood I still close my eyes, after 40 yrs of welding
@TheSiaek
@TheSiaek 6 жыл бұрын
Every time...
@matthewmoilanen787
@matthewmoilanen787 Жыл бұрын
Never, I have an auto darkening helmet and have for years.
@PaulKrzysz
@PaulKrzysz 9 жыл бұрын
I have never seen that "Anchoring" Technique before. Thanks for sharing.
@Mikishots
@Mikishots 8 жыл бұрын
These are wonderfully made videos - thanks for taking time to set such clear shots! So interesting to see the methods used, very clever and effective techniques.
@rlgroshans
@rlgroshans 4 жыл бұрын
The steps shown in the video were clear and easy to understand. I now think I may be able to make the spring swages I needs. Thank you!
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 4 жыл бұрын
Great! This is one way to make them!
@OfPostNothing
@OfPostNothing 9 жыл бұрын
Very good video editing! I absolutely love the soundscape of smithing - my childhood neighbour was a blacksmith hobbyist and this reminds me of him.
@dondawson1
@dondawson1 8 жыл бұрын
Very methodical yet simple, thanks!
@killerkane1957
@killerkane1957 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice work! Your editing technique is also entertaining. Thank you! Looking forward to the next video as well as making a swage like yours!
@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Torbjörn, as usual another excellent instructional video. That concealed fixing is truly neat. Cheers.
@terrahawk2003
@terrahawk2003 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for turning me on to this video! I learned alot Grant
@fxpestoperator5527
@fxpestoperator5527 2 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos Brother!
@gateway8833
@gateway8833 8 жыл бұрын
I am a Master Cabinet maker and a Wheel Wright. I started when I was 9 years old and maintained my skills while serving in the U.S. Marines. After retirement from both vocations I put away my uniforms laid down my weapons and sold my cabinet business in Los Angeles and moved to a place where if there are three cars on the road it is considered a traffic jam and there by news worthy. I have been watching your vedios and I think I got the steel bug, so I have bought a few Anvils and a Vice. I have made my Forge, so please keep making those vedios. Yoou are an inspiration and a supeb artisan.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Abby Babby Wow, thank you! When I get time, more videos will come!
@m456griffin
@m456griffin 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman Hello. Around 8:20, when you are drilling the hollows for the swage, wouldn't have been easier to heat the swage block, hold the stock in place, and hammer the stock impression into the face of the swage block, rather than drilling? As you might do to create the grips in tong jaws? Is there any reason you did it this way instead? Thanks - and keep up the great work/videos.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
m456griffin That's another way to go, yes. I think you have a little more control drilling the hole and you get a more precise sized hole. For other shapes it must be done hot but a straight and true drilled pilot hole might help also.
@m456griffin
@m456griffin 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman thanks!
@JASON-BEAZLEY
@JASON-BEAZLEY Жыл бұрын
Love your videos there amazing
@bernardopatino6263
@bernardopatino6263 6 жыл бұрын
I like you videos to much special in morning, when a I m drinking coffe, Tnx.
@expatconn7242
@expatconn7242 7 жыл бұрын
your vids are never boring ..
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@getyamanz
@getyamanz 9 жыл бұрын
great work.. ive had quite a few "aha!!" from watching your videos
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
Great! Thank you.
@aldogressa6708
@aldogressa6708 6 жыл бұрын
getyamanz . Onde se aplica na cutelaria. Grato
@bryttneybrito1343
@bryttneybrito1343 4 жыл бұрын
Personally i love watching the hardening process
@steveobee3488
@steveobee3488 9 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video i see some more tools i have to make i rather make them than waste money buying them then you know what its made of and have great pride in making a quality tool qreat work fellow smith
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
Steve Obee Thank you!
@joshjiggaa
@joshjiggaa 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, im going to be forging a spring swage soon, what was the middle measurement for the bend? 60mm and 30mm center then drawn out to about 100mm? great videos also! giving me a lot of ideas and knowledge on how to do it all !
@spectrefishing8202
@spectrefishing8202 7 жыл бұрын
You just earned a subscriber
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Thanks.
@nwcompounding1
@nwcompounding1 9 жыл бұрын
That anchor is nice..... seems like if you drilled it to the same size as spring it would be a bit more snug. Especially since when you heat the block it would expand and then contract down on to the spring after punching it.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
Good observation. Only problem is that the round stock isn't that exact in size or shape. It's often even a bit oval. I think I would have drilled 10.2 or 10.3 if I had that size drill bit.
@WG1807
@WG1807 9 жыл бұрын
Torbjörn Åhman Good job indeed. Black round bar that isn't quite round. Been there before, once with a big bundle of it. Egg Bar I called it, lol. If it is oval though, for that job, I would have forged it more round and used a 10mm drill bit for a tight fit. You need a 10.2mm drill bit for tapping M12 threads - so you should have one. When you're stick welding try holding the actual rod with your gloved left hand, when it's a full rod or long enough. Hold it between your first and second finger, like a TIG torch grip. Much better control. You only need one hand for the electrode holder. Sorry, not criticising, just adding to the debate.
@IronandWire
@IronandWire 9 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if this method is better or just quicker than hot swaging the bar into the dies? Seems like this is more accurate and reliable.
@flippingnation3482
@flippingnation3482 5 жыл бұрын
Movie producers could save so much money purchasing gun sound effects, just head over to a blacksmiths shop and record the power hammer and speed it up!
@119vs155
@119vs155 7 жыл бұрын
Torbjorn did you aneal the "spring", or quench? also on your heat treat did you quench into water or oil? thanks I'm learning so much from these videos.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 7 жыл бұрын
The "spring" is just mild steel, so I left it as forged only. This being 1045 steel, I quenched in water. It's all dependent on which steel you work with.
@_f_
@_f_ 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@winstonalpha1286
@winstonalpha1286 8 жыл бұрын
what kind of temperature or color would some one need to add the springiness back into the steel ? and does it need quenching and or tempering ? thanks man ! i loook forward to your reply. ps......great videos
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+winston alpha That really depends on the type of alloy used. For this tool I use mild steel, and it is springy enough for this application. For real springs, mild steel would start to deform, so hardened and tempered steel is used. There is a group of steels known as "spring steel", usually around 1% carbon content. Springs are quenched and tempered quite high, around 400-500 deg C I think.
@winstonalpha1286
@winstonalpha1286 8 жыл бұрын
OK cool, i will remember this and experiment with it.....thanks for the time to reply,
@maragatoh
@maragatoh 9 жыл бұрын
espetacular o seu trabalho!!!!com quem voce aprendeu a fazer? aqui no meu país esta arte esta desaparecendo,é bom ver que alguem mantem vivo algo que nasceu com o homem e nos definiu como civilização
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
maragatoh Thank you! Yes, I'm mainly self taught.
@brentgaskey3453
@brentgaskey3453 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. What are your thoughts on putting two different size holes in the same swage?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have thought about that... You might have to use a little bigger "die", so the tool would be slightly heavier, but other than that there shouldn't be a problem.
@norahw9694
@norahw9694 9 жыл бұрын
Torbjörn Åhman
@dandev9239
@dandev9239 9 жыл бұрын
next time share the heat treating id be interested to see what coulers you use for the spring and also what steel you are using.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
The type of steel is mentioned at the beginning. C45 aka AISI 1045. Only the dies are heat treated. In this case, heated to non-magnetic, quenched in water and then tempered in the oven at 250 deg C for an hour. It all depends on what steel you use. A prefect type of steel would be AISI 4340, which I would just normalize (no quech).
@andyhowey7351
@andyhowey7351 5 жыл бұрын
How feasible is it to make or use something like a spring swage without a power hammer or a drill press? If I ever do manage to get started blacksmithing (not exactly practical in a small apartment), it'll probably be pretty small scale. I doubt I'll have access to high-end power tools. Could the dies be held in a vise or clamp and a hand drill with the appropriate bit(s) be used to bore them out?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 5 жыл бұрын
Hand drill will probably work fine. But I would recommend you look at a "guillotine tool" instead. Better suited for hand work.
@ajhowey275
@ajhowey275 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your reply.
@Escumbuit77
@Escumbuit77 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Torbi, it´s me again. I would like to know, how to forge a dies for the hole in the anvil for cutting off hot iron. You show a dies which has a rounded upper rim (edge)....and excellenty works for cutting off. I need also to make one...manually.. Tack pa förhand :-)
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 4 жыл бұрын
That is actually my very first video. I uses my hammer though, but with some anvil tooling you can forge them by hand easily with a striker.
@WinDancerX
@WinDancerX 7 жыл бұрын
Can you show how the leaf swage is used on the power hammer? I can't seem to get the swage to work.... THANKS!
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by "leaf swage"... In my mind there can be many different types.
@tonybletas930
@tonybletas930 5 жыл бұрын
I'm no blacksmith but wouldn't a locating dowel and corresponding hole align the two halves of the die with perfect accuracy on closure? Just a thought
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 5 жыл бұрын
Could work, but not really needed in this case. The two halves center themselves quite good especially when you turn the work all the time between the dies.
@dutchcourage7312
@dutchcourage7312 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting way of fixing the two blocks, for a moment i thought you were going to pressure fit the round stock into the holes by heating it up and hammering it in, so that it bulges out and then pressure fits in the hole, this way looked interesting but i was actually somewhat disappointed you had to pull out the welder in the end. Am i to assume this is not a traditional type tool? and only used since the time welders would have been available?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 6 жыл бұрын
Well, you don't need to weld them really, but it adds a bit of more stability since the round stock can rotate. This type of tool was probably made when machines where introduced on a broader scale... a hundred years ago or so.
@dutchcourage7312
@dutchcourage7312 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, i see ... Tnx for your time to answer :)
@paulorchard7960
@paulorchard7960 4 жыл бұрын
Not having done this before and maybe very wrong I would have done this differently , forge weld the handle into the dies while forging a 12 mil bar into a 10 mil drilled cavity ?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 4 жыл бұрын
Not possible...
@F14Goose37
@F14Goose37 8 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I am not a blacksmith but I can tell the difference between something that is well built and something that isnt. I would have figured that you would have just welded the ends of the round stock to the blocks, or at most, drilled them in a little and welded. Drilled, grooved and peened and then welded? That joint will never be a failure point. the finish is nice too. It could have been serviceable and a whole lot more rough looking, but you made it look nice, which is a mark of a good craftsman.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Brian Choitz Thanks!
@Carlos-xu8lq
@Carlos-xu8lq 6 жыл бұрын
👍
@SpiritBear12
@SpiritBear12 8 жыл бұрын
I have a question. When you heated up the swage block to receive the tong part of the spring, why did you not heat up the tong as well? If you had put a hot tong inside the hot swage block wouldn't they sort of weld together as you hammered the bits of metal into the narrow bit you filed to grip the tong better? Wouldn't that create a much stronger join as they both cooled? I'm not a blacksmith, but it was a detail I noticed and wanted to know why you left the tong part cool while the swage block was pretty hot.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+SpiritBear12 To forge weld two pieces you need much higher temperature and is not practical at all in this application. In this situation I want to deform the block into the groves of the round "spring". If heated the spring would deform as well and I would be back at square one sort of. This joint really don't need to be strong in that sense, more secure, to hold the block in place. If the joint is a bit loose and the blocks wobble or rattles a bit, it does not matter as long as it is aligned and held in position.... does that make sense?
@SpiritBear12
@SpiritBear12 8 жыл бұрын
Torbjörn Åhman Well, I not being a blacksmith will have to take your word on your method. As long as it works and does what you want it to do, that's all that matters. I was curious.
@Faust1169
@Faust1169 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman Why 12mm?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Faust1169 12mm was what I needed. You can make them any size.
@adam_of_all_trades_no_mast8388
@adam_of_all_trades_no_mast8388 3 жыл бұрын
How far up and down could you use the die to round with? 15 mm to 10 mm?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 3 жыл бұрын
With this particular swage you can only do one size, 12mm. You can make a swage in any size, you just need a hammer to match it! I have seen ones 100mm in size
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын
How did you heat treat the ends, with oil or water???
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 6 жыл бұрын
Water, since these are 1045/C45 steel.
@lenblacksmith8559
@lenblacksmith8559 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@AlekseyCamodelkin
@AlekseyCamodelkin 8 жыл бұрын
МОЛОДЦА
@johnoconnell5364
@johnoconnell5364 8 жыл бұрын
where did you get the cross pein hammer at 9:44 ?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+John O Connell Oh, that's an old swedish brand called "Tors Hammare". Nowadays you can buy new ones made by "Hultafors", more or less the exact same pattern.
@johnoconnell5364
@johnoconnell5364 8 жыл бұрын
thanks! theres a hultafors shop down the road from me. never would have thought in ireland :)
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
John O Connell Ha ha, cool.
@DDankyKang
@DDankyKang 6 жыл бұрын
dude u have fucking sharp tools! n1
@joseivaltolaurentino2812
@joseivaltolaurentino2812 2 жыл бұрын
Bom dia! Eu gostaria de saber falar inglês para entender melhor o que você faz... parabéns!
@Moostery
@Moostery 8 жыл бұрын
What if instead of the groove and punching the blocks in to it you just got the tip of the bar and the block to forging temperature, put some flux in the hole and upset the bar inside of the block. It would look a lot nicer and be easier I think =)
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Briggs Forge welding like that would be tricky I think. This is all about function, not how it looks :) This type of joinery is not my invention, but has been practiced for a long time so I believe it serves it's purpose well.
@Faust1169
@Faust1169 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman People don't like shortcuts because it looks like cheating.
@tylertaylor6624
@tylertaylor6624 9 жыл бұрын
Why not just chamfer the round bar and full weld from the beginning?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
Tyler Scott A weld is likely to fail. Especially in between steels of different types like this.
@SynoDesign
@SynoDesign 9 жыл бұрын
Torbjörn Åhman If you weld it properly then no it isnt. It can be as strong as what you are performing here.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
***** I don't think so actually. I'm no expert, but the pros does it like this.
@PeterReynoldsVA
@PeterReynoldsVA 8 жыл бұрын
Have to ask - what's the point of going to all the trouble of filing a groove, hammering it in etc. when you just go and weld it anyways? Why not just weld it period instead of all the extra work?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Peter Reynolds The weld I do is not necessary but keeps it all in place. Only welding against the die will break sooner or later, especially since many types of steel suited for dies are not "weldable".
@PeterReynoldsVA
@PeterReynoldsVA 8 жыл бұрын
Ahh, okay, figured it was something along those lines. Thanks!
@jackgraeme3557
@jackgraeme3557 3 жыл бұрын
I have been appreciating your videos lately for many reasons. I especially like the rhythm of hammer blows, the "rests" in between striking, and the way you set your hammer down when you are almost finished with what you are doing even though you're going to pick it up seven more times to make adjustments. Whether by hand or otherwise, there is a distinct pattern. Weird, I know. But, I can't help that I hear it. That's more about your other videos, though. This one, however, might be a "game-changer" for me. I have avoided spring swages. I have not gotten much use from the ones I have purchased or made before they broke. This video has given me an idea as to why that has been. And, it's so simple that I'm almost embarrassed. All of the spring swages I've used have had the spring butt-welded to the dies. Maybe, that's okay for a powered hammer with guided dies. But, I don't have one😔 🙏
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! But welded will probably fail sooner or later however you use them. This approach will hold up a long time even if the dies rattle and gets a bit loose.
@guillaumeleroux8145
@guillaumeleroux8145 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you tempered?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I did!
@RYGIELSKIII
@RYGIELSKIII 9 жыл бұрын
vart köper du ditt stenkol?
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 9 жыл бұрын
crazy polish dude Har köpt via orsajarn.se men även på blocket när det dykt upp något.
@69burnttoastburgos
@69burnttoastburgos 8 жыл бұрын
what is the hardening process
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Burgos Depends on what type of steel you use. 1045 heated to ~850C and quenched in water, then tempered to about 280C.
@69burnttoastburgos
@69burnttoastburgos 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman 4041
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
Anthony Burgos Check this page out, pretty good - www.anvilfire.com/FAQs/heat-treating-4140.php
@kalango198
@kalango198 2 жыл бұрын
🇧🇷😎👍👏👏
@joshuaewart9016
@joshuaewart9016 7 жыл бұрын
02:12 RIP Headphone users.
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 7 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, sorry!
@joshuaewart9016
@joshuaewart9016 7 жыл бұрын
It's fine. Loving the videos. Keep being awesome. :)
@omerardagurel3241
@omerardagurel3241 8 жыл бұрын
what is this
@torbjornahman
@torbjornahman 8 жыл бұрын
+Ömer Arda Gürel Check out my next video how it can be used.
@omerardagurel3241
@omerardagurel3241 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman okay tank you :)
@omerardagurel3241
@omerardagurel3241 8 жыл бұрын
+Torbjörn Åhman sorry yes I understand very good video
@user-ye7tu4ww5c
@user-ye7tu4ww5c Жыл бұрын
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@lankey6969
@lankey6969 9 жыл бұрын
The high pitched squeaking is caused by your work piece being too far out from the vice. Move it in next time to avoid vibrations and that sound.
@ollzix
@ollzix 4 жыл бұрын
какой же это блексмитинг..сварка, дрель болгарка...
@dedsirota9528
@dedsirota9528 4 жыл бұрын
++++++++++++
@user-kt3zu4xx6o
@user-kt3zu4xx6o 3 жыл бұрын
Прости , не знаю твоего языка. Но , делить видео на части это инструмент жулика.
@brontoraurus7835
@brontoraurus7835 3 жыл бұрын
Ra onok fungsine blasss...
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