You don't have a soul (according to Neil deGrasse Tyson)

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Жыл бұрын

Coach receives a questions about how Neil deGrasse Tyson doesn't believe in the Soul. It's all science according to him.
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@entireto8997
@entireto8997 Жыл бұрын
Firas , me and many of your other followers would really love if you put more content connected with Philosophy . I listened to all podcasts you had in that field and 2-3 hours pass very quickly. Thank you very much for your contribution , I also love all martial arts , sports related videos
@mohammedumar3252
@mohammedumar3252 Жыл бұрын
100000000000000% I Agree
@twiztedmedia3311
@twiztedmedia3311 Жыл бұрын
No, keep it martial arts not some self help crap
@Reypstraptor4269
@Reypstraptor4269 Жыл бұрын
@@twiztedmedia3311 everything is self help. Isnt martial arts? Are you not helping yourself when coach teaches you about a position in MMA or BJJ? I know about the genre of self help videos on youtube but i dont think phylosophy is much included in it since self help requires a much more practical approach.
@SquaredCircIe
@SquaredCircIe Жыл бұрын
If Neil lived during the 40s, he would've said smoking is healthy. In other words, he's where the money at.
@bman6065
@bman6065 Жыл бұрын
What does money have to do with atheism? To the contrary there's a lot of money in religion. Not to say it has to be. But drive past any mega church and I have no idea how anyone could have that logic.
@SquaredCircIe
@SquaredCircIe Жыл бұрын
@@bman6065 that's what he's selling
@charleswalker2484
@charleswalker2484 Жыл бұрын
@@bman6065 rootless economic units that have no belief in an afterlife and cling to their life with everything they have are the most easily controlled and manipulated type of people. The powers that be know this.
@lungzs
@lungzs Жыл бұрын
@@SquaredCircIe genius
@DevAngelo
@DevAngelo Жыл бұрын
The money is in supporting big oil.. He doesn't.
@eeee-lx7fw
@eeee-lx7fw Жыл бұрын
belief of materialism isn't even material
@michaelorsini9695
@michaelorsini9695 Жыл бұрын
You are so right! Too many scientists today are not happy just being scientists...they go into philosophy and wind up being terrible philosophers who can be easily refuted. Unfortunately, we live in an age that worships science so too many people are willing to grant them a credibility they simply do not have when it comes to philosophy. The very fact these scientists want to dabble in philosophy proves there is a higher knowledge to be attained than that found in empiricism and materialism.
@Orion-ns8hj
@Orion-ns8hj 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, people think philosophers are just thinkers when in reality they have a deep understanding of science but science doesn't have all the answers that's why they are trying to approach these topics in a different way meanwhile many scientists who deny these philosophers are just stuck with basic science which cannot give you all the answers
@badxradxandy
@badxradxandy Жыл бұрын
Just came here to say I've never liked Neil Tyson and he's published and contributed very little to his field yet you keep seeing him everywhere. He's the token TV science space guy. A TV show host.
@Honkers716
@Honkers716 Жыл бұрын
Just came here to say, I don't like TriStar gym. They're a gym and not a political or philosophy place. Anybody can claim to be a philosopher. And if you believe in this BS, you'll believe in anything
@TheMMAHawk
@TheMMAHawk Жыл бұрын
@@Honkers716 might want to work on your grammar first bud
@dhuss14
@dhuss14 Жыл бұрын
​@@Honkers716Caught the pseudo-intellectual self-refuting atheist cuck. You refuted yourself right now and you don't know it. Truth is INESCAPABLE.
@samuraisteve2775
@samuraisteve2775 Жыл бұрын
Preach. Neil The Ass Tyson. The first comment that moron made is hilarious. He will never grow, it we will.
@ks5553
@ks5553 Жыл бұрын
He's always been more concerned with fame than science. I find him to be intolerable, even after he admitted that he is always focused on trying to sound like Barry White on the mic.
@callumbush1
@callumbush1 Жыл бұрын
deGrasse oozes arrogance from every pore!
@rickallen9099
@rickallen9099 Жыл бұрын
Zahabi's arrogance oozes from every pore
@ghadanfarali1884
@ghadanfarali1884 Жыл бұрын
​@@rickallen9099You seen how many times he cuts Joe Rogan off mid sentence during a podcast? Arrogance right there. Arrogance is speaking with authority about that which you have no knowledge. I've seen him talk and attribute speech to Ghazali which he never made. He was called out on it but never even responded. Not admitting to mistakes is arrogant personified. I don't think Mr Zahabi would have a problem admitting a, mistake. Neil likes his echo chamber. All of these celebrity atheists do. But you will never see them in a room with someone who can challenge them. Not just arrogant but worse. A coward.
@munchieray8867
@munchieray8867 Жыл бұрын
@@rickallen9099 I never thought I would see a Neil Degrasse fan in real life 🤣🤣
@yamilsenior
@yamilsenior Жыл бұрын
This video is awesome, you should do more of these coach!
@user-hb5on4uf5f
@user-hb5on4uf5f Жыл бұрын
Hello, coach. I just started "Strong & Stable Knees 4 Life". I read pdf and would like to ask, do I choose only one action for ladder every three weeks? Or do you change different actions every week? Because my English is not good, so I do not understand, hope to get help, thank you very much.
@dominiknowaczyk9633
@dominiknowaczyk9633 Жыл бұрын
Soul is a religious construct, consciousness is not a soul. If you take away your whole identity, ego, likes, dislikes, memory, thought's etc, what are you left with? Just pure consciousness. Soul means that you have a fixed identity, and that's not true, you are just a combination of many different things. Your whole identity is based on external factors, your name, personality, hobbies etc it's all gathered during your lifetime. So there is no soul in your religious understanding.
@SocraticMind89
@SocraticMind89 Жыл бұрын
Cool story bro, but soul is subjective and up to interpretation to every individual apart for those that don’t believe in it
@jukasipo
@jukasipo Жыл бұрын
That was beautifully put.
@Jimmy29li
@Jimmy29li Жыл бұрын
@@SocraticMind89 "subjective." You should have stopped there.
@greenbee6902
@greenbee6902 Жыл бұрын
The soul has nothing to do with memories, ability, likes and dislikes. Those are a function of time, unless you believe newborns have less of a soul than 90 year olds. In your counter example you attempted to isolate these things, especially ego from the consciousness but that is scientifically impossible. Nothing you said supports your conclusion about the logical reality of a soul.
@SlugRiot
@SlugRiot Жыл бұрын
@@jukasipono it wasn’t
@juanwick8820
@juanwick8820 Жыл бұрын
Coach what books do you suggest for learning about Philosophy? How do you teach this to your children?
@comebackqing8452
@comebackqing8452 Жыл бұрын
Saying the universe is completely deterministic and that you don't have a soul are pretty similar ideas my friend
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@Reypstraptor4269
@Reypstraptor4269 Жыл бұрын
Not really. One has nothing to do with the other. You can still have a soul and have no free will only the illusion of it. Why would the existence of a soul make it otherwise?
@anananwar
@anananwar Жыл бұрын
You don’t have to look very far to find a philosopher who doesn’t find the idea of souls very compelling…
@Yebacheck
@Yebacheck 11 ай бұрын
which ones?
@garryjones1776
@garryjones1776 10 ай бұрын
​@@YebacheckEngels, Feuerbach, Nietzsche, Camus, Marx, Rand, Russell, Santayana, Sartre, Schopenhauer, Stirner, Zizek. Among the more kown ones of course. It's really not hard to find philosopher that does not believe in soul.
@marvinwilliams7938
@marvinwilliams7938 9 ай бұрын
Is this guy conflating ‘mind’ with soul in the video? Because all the mind does is think and neuroscience can easily map that out…
@Orion-ns8hj
@Orion-ns8hj 3 ай бұрын
​@@marvinwilliams7938 i think it's more about mind , soul, consciousness etc you say whatever you want but in the end we all are talking about the same thing
@johnsonwongcs
@johnsonwongcs Жыл бұрын
Wow! Didn't expect to find philosophy here. I've actually majored in (engineering) physics, and then studied philosophy and psychology after (thought didn't quite graduate), and I would say you are not wrong. I have always found the materialists frustrating, yep, like Dennett and his side of the argument, which I must say is the dominant side in this particular argument, at this point in time. Like you said, the direct experience of our own consciousness is something still not explained away, no matter the scientific proof they can show, so long as it is insufficient to explain why I have this direct experience of consciousness. Though I would say that I am not discounting one day where neuroscience can indisputably explain away the 'mind', as you put it. In the time that we live in, I am cautious to keep my mind open to all possibilities. This is one of the things that frustrated me the most, that the philosophers only talked philosophy and don't know about advances in physics or neuroscience, and vice versa. I would say that Searle's Chinese room still has not been satisfactorily solved, even to this day, though it does seem things are going to become very interesting with the advances in AI recently. What are we going to say when indeed AGI can be achieved? How would the debate evolve once GPT can be proved to have consciousness? I also love your talk of the idealists. I have the feeling that the prevailing sentiment right now is that idealism is dead. It is left behind to the past; Plato, Descartes, Leibniz, all thought of as wrong by the philosophers of our generation. I actually didn't know about that quote from Leibniz. I am more of a distracted generalist, who love to read around, all over the place, in all fields. I also didn't know about the quotes from both Heisenberg and Schrodinger, but I find it ironic, since they are the two that solved both aspects of the quantum mechanics equations, one with the wave equation while the other with the matrix equation. The ironic part is that Schrodinger actually solved via the wave mechanics, which proves the quantum is energy, i.e. more affinity to the mind (idealism), while Heisenberg solved via the matrix mechanics, which proves the quantum is particle, more affinity to materialism, though the quotes you provided put them in the opposite positions. I am trained in the scientific thinking by my university studies and I still have a lot of respect for it, though I am frustrated by what I would call the arrogance of science nowadays. I think you do put it beautifully with the martial arts analogy. I have nothing against science, that system of thinking is amazingly powerful, but like you said, we wouldn't have all the other disciplines if the scientific method is the be-all and end-all of thoughts. Your point reminds me of mathematics, which one can argue is even more fundamental than physics itself, and there are scientists that argue that physics is the hardest of all sciences. And yet, to your point, mathematics is all in the mind (one can argue). Can we even say that mathematics exists in nature and we merely discovered it? Or did the human mind actually invented mathematics? Does it exist, without the human mind, or any form of intelligence, to think it? Do time and space exist without any intelligence to observe them? I still think Pythagoras was nuts, but I don't think it's so easy to discount his idea that the universe is actually made up of numbers. Good talk, my man. I hope my long, drawn-out comment does not bore you. It's just that I really enjoyed typing this out. Haven't wanted to talk philosophy like this for quite a while now.
@justaname935
@justaname935 Жыл бұрын
wow i really enjoyed your comment- i would love to find more content on these topics
@crisantogarcia6646
@crisantogarcia6646 Жыл бұрын
The closer I get to my STEM degree the farther I get from spirituality and philosophy. I’m currently trying to balance both and honestly I believe we can live with both as long as we’re not hurting each other physically. There are good points on both sides.
@Xenor999
@Xenor999 Жыл бұрын
What you are trying to do was done by the best scientists like Einstein Newton etc.
@charleswalker2484
@charleswalker2484 Жыл бұрын
@@Xenor999 Yes exactly. The best scientists of the 1900s were all theists who studied not just their own native religions but the religion and philosophy of the world. Oppenheimer quoted the Bhagavad-Gita and Heisenberg was familiar with it too. Science is a methodology that can be used in many paradigms.
@MrMojo13ification
@MrMojo13ification Жыл бұрын
Science is nothing compared to philosophy. It's confined to the scientific method. When scientists speak on anything without using the scientific method, they are nothing but pseudoscientists.
@sbasha7
@sbasha7 Жыл бұрын
@@charleswalker2484 science is a methodology limited only to the physical domain of our universe. it cannot be used for the metaphysical rather it would be illogical to do so.
@charleswalker2484
@charleswalker2484 Жыл бұрын
@@sbasha7 You're confusing science with empiricism or materialism. You absolute can do science about paranormal/metaphysical things e.g. Rupert Sheldrakes experiments about monkeys or dogs knowing when their owner is home or Strassmans DMT experiments.
@tariqelmashharawi9273
@tariqelmashharawi9273 Жыл бұрын
Coach, if I am self studying philosophy what books you recommend reading (10 - 15 books in levels) thanks
@jsv8898
@jsv8898 Жыл бұрын
Firas, can you recommend any books on the topic of the mind, soul and consciousness? Cheers
@hasanhaytham4455
@hasanhaytham4455 Жыл бұрын
Thomas negal mind and cosmos, this channel mentions it a lot
@akh345
@akh345 Жыл бұрын
Firas, I believe Neil's argument is that words "mind" or "soul" are more like words "beauty" or "courage". These words describe particular clusters of physical structures and physical interactions that neural networks inside homo sapiens distinguish and may react to upon encountering. Say, you describe a girl as beautiful. Neil's argument would be that it is a certain cluster of physical characteristics and actions that your brain is reacting to. It is an imperfect word describing this cluster. The same with the "soul" and "mind".
@chalmano
@chalmano Жыл бұрын
but can one then say "beauty isn't real" and be correct?
@akh345
@akh345 Жыл бұрын
@@chalmano While it could be irritating to go through some of Neil's mannerisms, I'll quote the exact words from his interview "is there something in you that lives independent of your physical existence? That would be what the soul would be. Alright. What I do know is that everything you are derives from electrochemical synapses running in your brain" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z86ElrqexrauhJc.html
@akh345
@akh345 Жыл бұрын
@@chalmano and here is another relevant quote where he describes the meaning of word "soul": "your friend Frederick just died, let's say and you go to a funeral parlor. You don't say 'hey which room is Freddie in', you say 'where is the body of Fred'. we all say that. that's a tacit admission that the body of Fred is not Fred. that Fred is something else that's no longer there and that matches perfectly with the concept of "soul". But even if you don't believe in souls you are probably still the person who's gonna say 'where is the body of Fred' so you recognize there was something there when they were alive that isn't there when they are dead. So what was it that was there when they were alive. We have some evidence for this. The neurosynapses of your brain." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z86ElrqexrauhJc.html
@chalmano
@chalmano Жыл бұрын
@@akh345 I have no issue with that example, but imagine a grandfather who is alive but unresponsive. do we say "where is his body?" no, because he is alive, we still acknowledge him as a person. We still believe the soul, whatever it is, is still in there. The essence of life.
@anotherpilgrim8313
@anotherpilgrim8313 Жыл бұрын
​@@akh345Except that you do not in fact "know" that all you are is derived from electrochemical synspses in the brain. I'm not trying to be pedantic, but the mind body, or substance dualism, has not been solved by science. Currently, the question still remains in the domain of philosophy, not science. Reductive materialism remains an article of faith among materialists. But I am open to the possibility that science can answer this question in the future.
@mvp4lithuania
@mvp4lithuania Жыл бұрын
I agree with Tyson.
@UnknownUser-nu8ny
@UnknownUser-nu8ny 5 ай бұрын
Me too. What this man essentially said that there’s no way that the bonds of having no soul are possible. Okay but with that means there’s an infinite series of possible bounds that exist that include us not having a soul and also logically explain why we don’t have a soul in clear black and white. That’s the point of science to find this bond that is unequivocally correct. It’s not binary.
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 14 күн бұрын
so you are robot
@drioustb9182
@drioustb9182 Жыл бұрын
sir how can i avoid the trap of being overconfident
@Mjhavok
@Mjhavok Жыл бұрын
Firas, Charles didn’t pull guard against Beneil Dariush. He attempted a lateral drop but Darius pushed off the cage. Pay attention ffs.
@justaname935
@justaname935 Жыл бұрын
i would really like to hear more- i used to be a christian and this is making me think maybe it makes sense or should i become a muslim?
@cford6679
@cford6679 Жыл бұрын
Souls are completely assumed...as is the claim, "the soul is synonymous, with the mind," you're essentially trying to define 'soul' into existence (Anselm has already failed at this multiple times).
@aj7_gauss
@aj7_gauss 11 ай бұрын
who’s the philosopher he mention?
@Enigma_408
@Enigma_408 Жыл бұрын
He’s a mainstream scientist for a reason, let me guess he said wear a mask back in 2020 😂
@notthisguyagain8557
@notthisguyagain8557 Жыл бұрын
That's the same thing I was going to say 😂😂😂
@blazeyfearey9001
@blazeyfearey9001 Жыл бұрын
And you’re some kind of genius that thinks wearing masks doesn’t stop most particles from coming out of your mouth and onto other people?
@nomad155
@nomad155 Жыл бұрын
People literally died or was on the cusp of it. Literally we lost famous political and pop culture icons due to it.
@Enigma_408
@Enigma_408 Жыл бұрын
@@nomad155 99.77% survival rate, and dr Anthony was found guilty with gain of function research 🧐
@betgazal
@betgazal Жыл бұрын
right, cause you didnt know anyone who died or got really sick from covid.
@shamshermanik775
@shamshermanik775 11 ай бұрын
At 7:10 he mention his greatest thinker of all time but I can’t make out what he said does anyone know?
@mowlidabdinor
@mowlidabdinor 10 ай бұрын
His name is Al-Qhazali
@mhdmazzeh
@mhdmazzeh Жыл бұрын
Coach Firas with Neil in one room, only one soul is leaving that room in a body
@ba10mob69
@ba10mob69 Жыл бұрын
Firas is going to hold him in a triangle choke for more than 50 seconds just so he can stop talking 😂😂
@vaimast2825
@vaimast2825 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@RunRocksYT
@RunRocksYT Жыл бұрын
Can you make a curriculum, or basics to philosophy course video series? THANK YOU!
@TrueClue
@TrueClue Жыл бұрын
maybe you can look for professors of philosophy for that? isn't that better?
@PeterMasalski93
@PeterMasalski93 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree, this is a horrible train of logic. You are trying to equate A and trying to pass it as B Its a fallacy of substitution. A mind is the operating system of a brain. Without a brain, there is no mind. Show me a mind that exists without a brain. So at least we can say that " a mind" exists provided that a brain exists. I can use a computer as a comparison. Everyting I can say about a motherboard and hardrive, can I say about a software like Microsoft office? No Are they the same no? However one cannot exist without the other because one is just a codified extrapolation of the other. I can take a piece of paper and write down the millions of lines of code to show what makes Microsoft office possible. The same way if we understood DNA and could understand how our hardware processes it, we could most likely write down the millions or trillions of ACGT bases that builds the mind. However, these things are still nestled within the realm of the physical. The soul is not. The soul cannot be defined. We cannot see its effects. We can't even measure it or the hardware on which it operates We don't know how it is proccessed Its basicly Unknown A + Uknown B = Unknown C You are trying to take religion and making your argument stand on nothing. I see a person who took the "soul" concept from religion and is trying really hard to make it possible through word salad. === The mind is synonymous to the soul -> making a claim without evidence. How do you equate both? How do you know you have a mind? well because it produces results which can be repeated. How do I know the sun exists? can i weight it or mesure its corpus or touch it? no i can see the effect it has on our planet. So the very least I can at least assume the sun exists by it's effects. Same with the mind. Science is not absolute, however it is the absolute best way to determine whether something ir right or wrong CURRENTLY. If you have a superior method to science please provide it. = Science cannot grasp - how do you know what science can or can't grasp. claim without evidence. The question is simple, can you provide a superior method to science and please show how this method can solve the world problems more efficiently. A soul has no such equivalence. Someone with brain damages has problems with the mind, so we know they are related. How do you determine a soul in the same way? horrible logic
@dominiknowaczyk9633
@dominiknowaczyk9633 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you for the most part but Consciousness is something that's not very well understood, can there be mind with no brain? Well it's like saying can there be air without the lungs? There certainly needs to be more investigation on the mind, if we can make AI or maybe soon video game characters conscious and they start asking questions like why am I here? Where do i come from, then maybe mind is the base reality like many scientists believe these days. But the soul is an ego construct, people who Want to remain after death want the soul to exist there is no other reason for it.
@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667
@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667 Жыл бұрын
Why do you assume soul has to come from religion?
@PeterMasalski93
@PeterMasalski93 Жыл бұрын
@@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667then enlighten us please! Give me the definition of a soul and evidence for it.
@Reypstraptor4269
@Reypstraptor4269 Жыл бұрын
@@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667 Because that is where the word originates from ......duh. We dont assume it comes from religion because that is where the concept of soul comes from so there is no assumpion to be made.
@Reypstraptor4269
@Reypstraptor4269 Жыл бұрын
The human brain is not even remotely close to be able to understand some of these very complex concepts that even some of the smartest of humans have the illusion of understanding them. Its like you know what the word infinity means but can your brain really fully comprehend something being infinite? Same with the word god or the concept of creation. Yes you do know the defition of god but are you really able to comprehend all the different potential variables that makes up that concept? Its only the illusion of the ego that we understand these things. The person who says i know god exists is just as stupid as the person who says i know god doesnt exist. I like your comment btw very in depth but is in in depth enough or can it ever be in depth enough for us to fully understand ? No it can never, our brains are limited.
@negativegains
@negativegains Жыл бұрын
You are no Coach, You are a Teacher.
@liamfoo09
@liamfoo09 Жыл бұрын
Firas please could you do a video on your favourite thought experiments, they blow my mind!
@JoaquinArguelles
@JoaquinArguelles Жыл бұрын
We're just like other animals. We are formed by our experiences in the world and our interactions with those experiences. "You" would not be "You" if you grew up in North Korea. You'd be someone completely different in every way possible. There is no fixed identity (soul). Hume's so called 'bundle theory of self' is a good enough place to start exploring these things. We're very much like the countless ants on this planet: we don't matter individually. We grow old, we die, we are forgotten pretty quickly.
@yeahdudex
@yeahdudex Жыл бұрын
ah yes, the pathetic, amoral responsibility-shirking of nihilism... the hallmark of the moral and intellectual coward
@JoaquinArguelles
@JoaquinArguelles Жыл бұрын
@@yeahdudex I believe you've word-by-word described your comment. On purpose (I'm guessing).
@dominiknowaczyk9633
@dominiknowaczyk9633 Жыл бұрын
The problem is Farias is being very biased, unlike Neil. Neil doesn't care if there is a soul or not so he is speaking objectively. Farias clearly wants the soul to exist, so his point of view is subjective and biased.
@rebazpishdari7845
@rebazpishdari7845 Жыл бұрын
@@dominiknowaczyk9633hahahha what a joke you can also say Neil doesn’t want a soul to exist because that means that God exist and that means that he will be held accountable for everything he did and he doesn’t want that and pls don’t embarrass your self by saying that Neil is objective. Neil reminds me of all those payed scientists who said smoking is not bad for your health.
@danieldelanoche2015
@danieldelanoche2015 Жыл бұрын
​@Rebaz Pishdari the existence of a soul wouldn't even come close to confirming the existence of any god lol
@Mufasa535
@Mufasa535 Жыл бұрын
Dang love hearing Firas talk philosophy
@history3042
@history3042 Жыл бұрын
NDT is not really a teacher these days. He just says anything to build his personal brand, regardless how dumb it is.
@jdh6210
@jdh6210 10 ай бұрын
Thanks coach.
@rambo-cn7rx
@rambo-cn7rx Жыл бұрын
I dont get what he means when he says that atoms are not real
@zaidabida007
@zaidabida007 Жыл бұрын
please make more philosphy content
@DSVN23
@DSVN23 Жыл бұрын
Neil doesn’t listen to anyone he just wants to hear his own voice so I don’t think he’d have the ability to listen to anything you say
@reneverheij6938
@reneverheij6938 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it more about the mind not working very well when the brain is gone? Whether the mind still works without the brain or not is where the big split in opinions is. You either think it somehow lives on in the soul or you don't. Sure science can't prove it doesn't live on but does it really need to?
@Jimmy29li
@Jimmy29li Жыл бұрын
What a straw man argument. I can't stand NDT, but belief in a soul is nothing more than faith (belief in the absence of evidence.) You can use philosophy all you want to "imagine" what a soul may entail, but we (you) cannot deny there is no evidence of its existence. This goes for religion as well. Don't even get me started on consciousness. You have NO idea where that comes from nor does anyone else. Believe in a spiritual realm all you want. The brain is a wired spider web of wet ware/neurons.
@MohamedAli-hl8kz
@MohamedAli-hl8kz Жыл бұрын
Says the dude that believes we’re the product of pure randomness unintelligent process
@Jimmy29li
@Jimmy29li Жыл бұрын
@@MohamedAli-hl8kz I don't "believe" anything. I use rationality and evidence. You should try it.
@MohamedAli-hl8kz
@MohamedAli-hl8kz Жыл бұрын
@@Jimmy29li great, I could accept your recommendation. we’re ( life, universe ) either the product of intelligence or pure non intelligence blind process, now what rationale or proof leads you to accept that we’re the product of non intelligence.
@mugen9499
@mugen9499 Жыл бұрын
There is major difference between intelligence and wisdom
@jayroybrown6122
@jayroybrown6122 Жыл бұрын
The argument about the mind and the brain seems absurd. No, you cannot separate the mind from the brain. If someone is brain dead, the have a brain, but no mind. There is no set of circumstances where you can have a dead brain and a healthy, functioning mind. But there is a set of circumstances where you can have a living brain, but no (discernible) mind. It seems like it's more appropriate to look at the thing we're calling a mind as a function of the brain, not as an independent entity. It is a part of the brain that helps us to reason, hold experiences (memories) and helps us to be social animals. But it's FULLY dependent on the life and health of the brain. Look, for example people with degenerative brain diseases like dementia and Alzheimer's don't have the same minds they once had, and that is directly because of physical changes to the brain. So it seems much more likely that what we're calling the mind is a function of the brain that as something independent of it.
@mh3082mh
@mh3082mh Жыл бұрын
Coach don’t you have the burden of proof? There is a soul so prove it right? I think Neil said there isn’t enough proof to convince him so not that he didn’t think there wasn’t enough to make him believe
@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667
@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667 Жыл бұрын
Pardon the intrusion. But to assume one should always have the burden of proof for extraordinary claims (or any claims likewise) is an assumption itself. Then I can also ask: Don't you have the burden of proof as to WHY one should have the burden of proof? :)
@Orion-ns8hj
@Orion-ns8hj 3 ай бұрын
It's not about the soul it's about whether consciousness can exist outside the body or not but first we have to understand what consciousness is at the first place
@zezuntxiduntxi
@zezuntxiduntxi Жыл бұрын
Damn. Love to hear you speak about this.
@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667
@themanwhoknewtoomuch6667 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Neil deGrasse Tyson would say he is higher than Heisenberg.
@blackspetnaz2
@blackspetnaz2 Жыл бұрын
I love philosophy but I did not find anything in philosophy that is a definitive proof of anything. Every single philosophical theory has a counterpart. So with all due respect. Against your explanation I would say you can’t have a mind without physical brain. Even AI needs software and hardware to run. With your reasoning disconnecting physical brain from mind. What do you think about AI as a mind, is it a soul too? Thanks for your answer.
@sawymath
@sawymath Жыл бұрын
I went off Tyson when I watched him on Patrick bet david. His ego is out of control.
@alex-ff1mp
@alex-ff1mp Жыл бұрын
the presentation about mind was interesting but not relevant to what NT said. And was linked by an affirmation mind=soul that is not proved (in the conversation) but was presented as such. This is actually the meaning of NT. If you can prove that there is something then we agree that "something" exist. For now we know there is a brain, there is electric impulses, there is a "mind" about we know little. But we cannot test and confirm by experiments that a soul exist and about its measures (size, energy, mass, etc.). The beauty is there is a room to provide tests, replicable test, etc.. to provide that indeed there is a soul. And everyone will welcome the prove. There is an another distraction by moving the target towards another topics in the end of the video. The only part that is solid is that indeed Philosophy should be practiced by anyone, and that the philosophy was and should be more interconnected with hard science and physical activities. A complete human should be able to express ideas, test them and accept the changes in their ideas, (like scientist test and accept changes) and this is reinforced by training, you learn what is working and what not, you are forced to change your previously level on understanding always accepting that this is a continues journey.
@godofthisshit
@godofthisshit Жыл бұрын
All this talking, just prove the existence of souls.
@sequeira1104
@sequeira1104 7 ай бұрын
Maybe he's operating under the idea that the universe is mental? I just noticed this Neil deGrassi Tyson post as well and he has said before that there are humans waiting to come in so by humans he means souls?
@asafbartov9809
@asafbartov9809 Жыл бұрын
The mind exist, but it doesn't mean there's a separate soul
@SquaredCircIe
@SquaredCircIe Жыл бұрын
Listen to the video before commenting
@rickallen9099
@rickallen9099 Жыл бұрын
Correct
@mytube0718
@mytube0718 Жыл бұрын
Love your content Firas. An atom is a particle that consists of a nucleus of protons and neutrons surrounded by a cloud of electrons. Then protons & neutrons are types of hadrons which break down further to Quarks and there may be even smaller particles that make those up. The rabbit hole goes further than most realize. As more precise tools and methods are developed, science progresses. This is a process. Thanks for your comments, I'm still not convinced there's a soul in people. If there is, then all life has a soul, right? If not, why do we have one and our relatives do not? Things that make you go hmmm... 🙂
@CoachZahabi
@CoachZahabi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment much appreciated. You are presupposing materialism. Materialism has never been proven in philosophy (logically). Please see Berkeley and Idealism. Atoms are particulars. Matter is a universal. Please see nominalisme. Is the mind dependent on the brain or is the brain dependent on the mind. 99.9% default to materialism and declare the mind dependent on the brain. Simply because we can manipulate the brain and effect the mind. This however skips an important step. We need to prove materialism before we can accept that the brain is in fact material. This has never been accomplished. Only the reverse has been so. Hence the brain is dependent on the mind.
@marvinwilliams7938
@marvinwilliams7938 9 ай бұрын
Are you conflating ‘mind’ with soul in the video? Because all the mind does is think/reason and neuroscience can easily map that out…
@RR-vg5hg
@RR-vg5hg Жыл бұрын
He’s a real disbeliever
@roscoestark6589
@roscoestark6589 Жыл бұрын
All I have to say is "cartiesian newtonian paradigm"
@mat..n.7061
@mat..n.7061 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a podcast involving Firas and Neil, where only Firas is allowed to speak for 30 minutes. Then, only Neil allowed to speak for 30 minutes. Teaching things that each other. Not arguing, just listening to each other. Guaranteed millions of viewers.
@twiztedmedia3311
@twiztedmedia3311 Жыл бұрын
Sounds pointless
@micvili7527
@micvili7527 Жыл бұрын
No one wants to hear Neil talk for 30 minutes straight
@twiztedmedia3311
@twiztedmedia3311 Жыл бұрын
@@micvili7527 Only cause you have the attention span of a dog and think magic gods exist
@naturalianoss
@naturalianoss Жыл бұрын
You two should go to Joe Rogan to have a full contact debate about everything !!! Neil used to be a wrestler in his youth .
@thesultan1024
@thesultan1024 Жыл бұрын
Love the philosophy content coach!
@JamaaLS
@JamaaLS Жыл бұрын
It's a one-way conversation with Neil.
@357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X
@357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X Жыл бұрын
Neil is such a diva...... I remember when norm macdonald put him in his place
@behrad9712
@behrad9712 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bruce Lee🙂, you actually ignite my philosophy, I just love the way you combine philosophy and martial arts it's brilliant, especially for young persons in MMA it's fascinating! Moreover, it's even useful in philosophy departments! great respect from Iran I wish one day I become your student in Canada but we're under sanction + I have no money!🙏👌❤
@ptf55
@ptf55 Жыл бұрын
Neil deGrasse Tyson was speaking for himself.
@allenharrelliii7424
@allenharrelliii7424 Жыл бұрын
I would love coach to give Niel a few lessons
@danielbonaparte8420
@danielbonaparte8420 Жыл бұрын
Niel has a wrestling background
@iamjohnrobot
@iamjohnrobot Жыл бұрын
Niel doesn’t listen to other people
@screenplaya4562
@screenplaya4562 Жыл бұрын
Mind and soul are not the same thing, are they? Neil would not argue that the mind doesn't exist, at least not as you described it at first. He would then say the soul does not exist, due to lack of evidence. I think this might not have been a waste of time had Firas taken a moment to watch Neil's video.
@ajmala7979
@ajmala7979 Жыл бұрын
How did Walter White get into this podcast
@darknostalgia2668
@darknostalgia2668 Жыл бұрын
Heisenberg, and Leibniz were both devout Christians.
@jiujitsuismyoutlet
@jiujitsuismyoutlet Жыл бұрын
NGT has always put a weird taste in my mouth whenever I hear him speak…. Seems like he needs Jiu-Jitsu to curb that ego and help him remember we don’t actually know anything about space 😂😅…. Let alone whether or not humans have a soul. I guarantee this guy has never read Plato’s Phaedo and been confronted with the proof of the human soul that Plato logically demonstrated several thousand years ago.
@laarakus9213
@laarakus9213 11 ай бұрын
reading the world from one prism isn't generally a wise behaviour
@LOLCoolJ
@LOLCoolJ 10 ай бұрын
Bait and switch. Soul /= Mind.
@danwatts2096
@danwatts2096 Жыл бұрын
You'd think with all your philosophical study you'd be able to understand how you didn't rebut anything NGT said.
@emanmoba
@emanmoba 11 ай бұрын
i thought BJJ doesn't give you CTE, but Firas proved me wrong
@ryancarlton1352
@ryancarlton1352 Жыл бұрын
You can tell he is uncomfortable thinking that he may not have a soul. Show actual evidence of a soul, not just word games and mental gymnastics. The mind is by-product of the brain. One has trauma to the brain, the mind is affected is it not.
@CoachZahabi
@CoachZahabi Жыл бұрын
lol thanks for referring to the whole of Philosophy as mental gymnastics lol!! Some of the greatest minds world where idealists! Maybe just maybe you are highly untrained and simply don't comprehend what is being said. claiming that a "trauma to the brain effects the mind...therefore the brain is primary etc" is an argument that has been refuted countless times. You simply don't understand Idealism or Dualism. But I don't blame you. It definitely is a Complexe topic and is not easy to comprehend. Still that doesn't make it any less true.
@nooneatall5612
@nooneatall5612 Жыл бұрын
Please, don't quote Heisenberg and then completely misinterpret what he said to match your point of view... He was referring to how quantum particles like electrons for example don't have a set position, but their position is instead described by a wave function, which is something that is related to his work. In fact it even says so in the quote, he was specifically referring to elementary particles. Then you proceeded to say that scientists don't understand the quote but philosophers do, which was quite funny given the context.
@berence1
@berence1 Жыл бұрын
All due respect...but the content of your message and the way its articulated is analogous to the musings of a c+ undergraduate paper in philosophy. The truth is that this issue remains unresolved.
@laarakus9213
@laarakus9213 11 ай бұрын
4:26 ad populum
@twiztedmedia3311
@twiztedmedia3311 Жыл бұрын
Neil didnt just say it, people been saying that for centuries.. Do ants and fish have souls? Does bacteria have souls? Wtf even is a soul?? 😂😂
@Orion-ns8hj
@Orion-ns8hj 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly like asking what consciousness is ? Does everything have consciousness other than humans ?
@Orion-ns8hj
@Orion-ns8hj 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly like asking what consciousness is ? Does everything have consciousness other than humans ?
@twiztedmedia3311
@twiztedmedia3311 3 ай бұрын
@@Orion-ns8hj Religious bullshit terms and consciousness are two different things, consciousness is something we can observe.. Havent seen any of these souls though
@Orion-ns8hj
@Orion-ns8hj 3 ай бұрын
@@twiztedmedia3311 no one said consciousness & soul are different atleast i don't think they are, infact many people including firas believe it's same. So maybe we should be talking about whether consciousness is made up of matter or not , can it exist outside the body or not. Mind, soul, consciousness, spirit are all the same
@thesource6673
@thesource6673 Жыл бұрын
In these two videos coach Zahabi goes deeper in these matters: 1) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ht2bqptmy7i7pH0.html 2) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8BjdJl_msnPY5c.html
@dimi3978
@dimi3978 Жыл бұрын
staying true to your name
@adkads27
@adkads27 Жыл бұрын
Just because Neil has a degree in physics doesn’t mean he knows everything. That guy is the definition of arrogance.
@Maxiouew
@Maxiouew Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you have a separate channel for philosophy or maybe videos focused on philosophy. I understand it is a mma channel but none the less philosophy has a role in martial arts 🥋
@coffeejunkie5092
@coffeejunkie5092 Жыл бұрын
With due respect, im not asking mr tyson about anything other than science.
@laarakus9213
@laarakus9213 11 ай бұрын
degrasse needs to be in his upper threshold of pain tolerance to feel his mind come to reality
@alyjahbarros5175
@alyjahbarros5175 Жыл бұрын
Tristar gym do you believe in the holy trinity?
@hadihamade5455
@hadihamade5455 11 ай бұрын
wow
@MyKneeHurts
@MyKneeHurts 11 ай бұрын
you can say neil doesnt understand philosphy at all, but he is right. You guys essentially make assumptions after assumptions, while providing no proof for the metaphysical world. A lot of you, people like Firas were brought up muslim. He cant help but be biased
@n.sathyanarayanansathya1914
@n.sathyanarayanansathya1914 Жыл бұрын
what is subatomic particle .God particle
@MrCBTman
@MrCBTman Жыл бұрын
Consciousness Explained is actually a brilliant book, filled with genius ideas. Note that Firas dismissed it without providing any of those arguments and refuting them.
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
Do you believe you have a brain?
@pedrosanchez9351
@pedrosanchez9351 Жыл бұрын
I think the Man needs a lot of spiritual work, please God 🙏 let us helping him 🙏🙏💥😂😂😂😂😂
@anotherpilgrim8313
@anotherpilgrim8313 Жыл бұрын
Scientists like Neil should stop pretending to be philosophers. Full stop.
@panagenesis2695
@panagenesis2695 Жыл бұрын
What else would you expect from a rank materialist like him?😂
@darkmikerises
@darkmikerises Жыл бұрын
If you debated him he would constantly move the goal post and condescending play mental gymnastics with your arguments. Neil Degrasse-Tyson is the Dr. Phil of science. He’s more theatre than understanding his field. Despite that I’d still love to see you debate him.
@aspirationalprojects3329
@aspirationalprojects3329 Жыл бұрын
I would like to meet you one day, i respect you very much.
@BenyaminLorit
@BenyaminLorit Жыл бұрын
The question asked to you had zero context in it outside of the title of the video that it came from and so without it, your response to Neil's response kinda doesn't work because if you actually watch the video, his answer really isn't too far off from what you're saying but only through a scientific lens. More along the lines of that he just doesn't believe in the soul as it's typically described by people (something that exists outside of your physical form or like a ghost) and that it's really more of just consciousness and the neurosynapses of the brain. To me, it felt more like he was simply addressing the semantics involved when people use the term "soul" and not at all denying the existence of the mind. It was a fairly objective answer, just taken out of context.
@determinedlyunmotivated4300
@determinedlyunmotivated4300 5 ай бұрын
We don’t have a soul and I agree. You lost me when you mentioned philosophy and science.
@JB.zero.zero.1
@JB.zero.zero.1 Жыл бұрын
I doubt you have a clue either as far as the soul is concerned, beyond the narrative. It is a human concept and can't be demonstrated. As far as mind is concerned, if you experience brain damage, that which we refer to as mind, has computational errors. The language of the soul is sloppy and imprecise.
@boongrieboongrie619
@boongrieboongrie619 Жыл бұрын
Tyson 33 rd degree - please debate robert malone to debate tysons outright sponsored lies just like about this li
@mars8916
@mars8916 Жыл бұрын
We are beginning to be able to empirically measure the mind. They can already use AI to decode and recreate subjective observed data. This begins to suggest that our inner qualia is in fact just a reflection of a physical state of the brain.
@martinlarocque900
@martinlarocque900 Жыл бұрын
The mind could just be neuron connections in the brain. Think about it
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 Жыл бұрын
How do you know you have a brain?
@alanmorrison633
@alanmorrison633 Жыл бұрын
Great coach and martial artist, but if philosophies were martial arts Firas would be an Aikido teacher I'm afraid.
@vaimast2825
@vaimast2825 Жыл бұрын
Rolf
@KO-gu6wp
@KO-gu6wp Жыл бұрын
He also dismisses most of the UAP stuff. Dude is just a puppet, Michio Kaku is an example of a "mainstream" scientist that's actually credible and not a puppet..
@ahmedabdi2275
@ahmedabdi2275 Жыл бұрын
If everyone we can say about A we can also say it about B then A is a subset of B, it not necessary that A=B, I’m very happy that I heard you missing something. To make sure that you are a human being, Machallah
@CoachZahabi
@CoachZahabi Жыл бұрын
lol JZK but Idon't think you are correct on this. Please cite me a reference. Here's mine www.britannica.com/science/identity-of-indiscernibles A and B must have all properties in common. If they do not share all properties they cannot be identical. "More formally, the principle states that if x is not identical to y, then there is some property P such that P holds of x and does not hold of y, or that P holds of y and does not hold of x. Equivalently, Its converse, the principle of the indiscernibility of identicals (also known as Leibniz’s Law), asserts that Leibniz used the principle of the identity of indiscernibles in arguments for a variety of metaphysical doctrines, including the impossibility of Newtonian absolute space."
@sucaadshardi9650
@sucaadshardi9650 2 ай бұрын
Firaz only believes the philosophy that agrees with him. Everybody is pushing their own agenda and paradigm
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