I have been waiting soooo long to see someone do this test and you boys went and filmed it and smashed it. Awesome awesome awesome 👏👏

By far the most deep diving channel I am following. Love the content boys, keep it coming!

You guy are killing it on the videos right. Love the information you guys are giving rn. It’s awesome

Very interesting video seeing the contrast between two shafts that are the “same”, but clearly not the same. Just goes to show even more importance on making sure your clubs are built to the tolerances of the ones you got fit into.

This is why you’re the best channel on KZfaq. This is the stuff we actually want to see. Thank you so much. I gotta come to Canada and meet y’all.

Impressive display of highlighting the differences and what to look for between OEM shaft and aftermarket. The consistency and dispersion of aftermarket shaft in Matt’s hands were impressive. Well done TXG.

I saw the title of the video and instantly clicked like! MyGolfSpy was just talking about how confusing so thank you guys for doing this video!!!

Love your channel guys. Always fair, detailed and really watchable.

Same quality as always guys. Honest and open. So good. Thanks

Your previous words " it's a timing device " .. absolutely spot on.. great example as ever. Great vid guys xx

Been waiting for this one. Thanks boys!! Keep it on the short grass playas!

Another great one! I really like how you described considering the value, specifically mentioning the view over ~5years. I think that is an important point for customers to consider when making a purchase.

Such a relevant topic. Thanks for revisiting this guys!

For the first time in a long time the Ventus shaft is perfect for measuring stock vs aftermarket, this vid and the F1 Vs driving to dinner analogy is perfecto, love it lads

Great video as always. Been waiting for this one Matty put it in the bag! Thanks gentlemen

Great information as usual fellas. The Velocore model is a different shaft all together. Different specs for sure but it was interesting how Matty noticed the actual diameter of the shaft and taper was different. Other than paint colour and the manufacturer being the same - two different shafts. Thanks again for the excellent sharing of knowledge and results!

Perfect video to help people decide how to make good buying decisions for their game and economics. Awesome job as usual guys :)

Great video. I just got fit into the Ventus blue 7X last week and saw the same outcome with consistent strike pattern. Ian, my fitter Mike and Sellingers spoke high of you also. Keep up the great work guys.

Thanks a bunch for this one boys! Always wondered how this one would look!

Well done boys! This may be your most viewed video ever

I like how Matty is so consistent that they have to tell us shots were consecutive 😂😂👍

Seriously good ‘definitive " video chaps.... love this.... going for driver, 3 wood rescue fitting tomorrow. I’ll be chatting about this shaft option. Thanks lads 👊🏻💪

what I appreciate most about this is that you can still get a quality performer even if you don't have $900 to spend on a driver. thank you for the tips to help tighten the stock as I'm sure many want to perform their best but just can't drop the money to get the high octane setup.

I got the aftermarket version a yr ago and paired it with my epic flash. Love it and hit 70% fairways at 260 -270 yrds.

Great video. This can be a thread for you guys to explore between older and newer shafts. For example, I was fitted a number of years back for the widely popular UST Proforce V2 shaft. Because the company has not changed their adapter design, I have been able to maintain using it in my hybrid, 3-wood and driver despite updating the head. I have been a little more exploratory with my driver, but will often go back to it when as Matt says “the need to go on autopilot mode.” While I was fitted with the newer shaft, and have the potential for greater numbers, it just seems that I have molded my swing to this shaft, and therefore get greater consistency. In any event, consistency strike, irrespective of tech, still rules. It is amazing to think that can be technologically improved upon.

Thank you for sharing. I ordered a TM Sim with Ventus Blue stiff with Velacore over a week ago. It should arrive Thursday. Can't wait!

Much anticipated video here! I play with some golfers who believe their stock Ventus has the velocore. They need to watch this. That center strike deviation is the ticket! This exact thing happened to me in a fit when I went to a high end shaft fit for me. Key words “fit for me”, not just grabbed off the shelf

I've been playing with my Ventus Red with Velocore for 6 rounds. It's made a difference over my evenflow. Longer and straighter.

Love the ventus stock shaft I have in everything

You guys will have twice as many subscribers by the end of the year. Best golf channel on yt consistently

Awesome video guys, very interesting to see the difference here. Got fit into the ventus blue velo 6x, absolutely love it.

One of your best videos here. Bravo.

So glad you did this, Sim marketing! Had a fitting for 3 wood, I was so surprised how the stock performed, chose another shaft.

You guys post A+ golf equipment videos. Love the content and Matt is a beast.

I bought an after market driver shaft because of your review ( VA Vylyn 55 gram stiff ) and it was the best money ever spent on golf stuff for me by me. There are a few people that have spent more money on golf toys than me, just a few. But the after market shaft I bought was oh so worth it. Good video guys, you two are keeping me going during the Global pandemic with stuff to watch.

This place is the best WITHOUT A DOUBT to gain real knowledge on golf equipment on KZfaq. Heck the web. Keep up the great work gentlemen.

Uh-oh... May need to revisit the bracket after that performance!

Brilliant Excellent. 👍👍👍👍👍👍 I wish more people would watch this video and understand the difference between stock and after market shafts well done guys 👍👍👍👍

Showing all the shots gives a more rounded understanding of the results. Be great to see this on future videos.

This video just inspired my $758 driver purchase from TM, I hope you guys earn a commission LOL! Really though, you should. Purchased the Sim 9 degree with Ventus Black 6x W/ VeloCore. Thanks for all of the amazing videos! You guys are the ONLY youtube I actually 'rang' the bell for haha.

There goes my next shaft! Great video!!

It's funny, I finally committed to getting an aftermarket shaft, and after something like 11 different shafts (including Ventus TR Blue) ended up trying the Black 6x. My first four shots - and reaction - were exactly the same as Matt's. It's unreal how good the grouping was, and how well the strikes clustered in the middle of the clubface. Just that alone makes it worth the price of admission.

Love the informative content. If theres one thing I would like to see different, is to always have the "tester" hit the driver without knowing which shaft is which. Eliminate placebo effect variable.

I put a Ventus Blue Velocore into a G410LST and it’s the most accurate and longest driver ever. I did not miss a fwy on my last round and as the round progressed I just swung harder as my confidence grew. This shaft is unreal. No duck hooks in last 2 rounds where 2 per was the norm. Duck hooks are my bad miss which just ruins a round. The Velocore was put into play because of the great numbers from your previous tests. Thanks guys and after watching this video no more stock shafts. This Velocore Blue that is currently in play won’t be leaving the bag for quite some time.

This actually makes sense. I demoed a few new drivers with the stock shafts ok results. Then they out my aldilia aftermarket shaft and it was tighter strike and better dispersion

I think the most important statement was “is it even the same shaft”. I think they should not name aftermarket and stock shafts the same,it’s misleading to the consumer. Put a different paint job and call it something else cause that’s what it is. If you took the profile of both shafts without the name you never say they are both the same venture. Good explanation and video as usual!

Love it, great work guys.

Oh wise ones Matt and Ian, please teach me the ways of the driver. The fairway seems to be a destination I can not reach without your help.😂

I'm so glad you guys went and did this. I've been telling players - ever since the whole Stock vs aftermarket versions started being made that there were differences. we even saw them most times in the fitting, but players didn't listen because manufacturers continued to say that "there was no difference" just to impress the OEMs. Finally they're onboard with it. Aftermarket is just a better investment in performance.

Great video on the performance difference between the TM version ventus and velocore ventus. Guess I will be testing the velocore version next 😍

I’m really keen to get fitted for a Ventus shaft but can hardly find anywhere in the UK that stocks it. Last Sunday we caught our mates up on the 9th tee & looking at my mates SIM Driver my eyes popped out of my head VENTUS the shaft I’ve wanted to test but not seen it anywhere & so I go check in a website & yeah there it is Ventus is the stock shaft!!!!! I was considering buying a SIM driver as it’s only another £50 for the complete driver as opposed to buying just the shaft, the head is virtually free I thought........WRONG it would appear so thank you very much for this video. Loved the video & definitely going to try & get fitted before end of summer. I was looking to do it about now but have lost 3 months of lessons & practice & don’t want to get fit until I’m happier with my swing, bloody Corona Virus.!!!!! Cheers guys great video.

Ugh literally needed this video a week ago 😭

As always, good honest knowledgeable testing once again shows, marketing isn’t reality. With the cost of clubs so high these days it’s even more important to understand what we are paying for! Sensational as always, thanks boys.

Go back and look at your testing of Ventus red, blue, and black. Same results you had today. Ian even commented that you were wearing the middle out. I remember it vividly because I want that Ventus Blue.

I really don't like companies that do this with their stock shafts, the Atmos range does it right in my opinion by completely changing the graphics. But rants over lol great video guys

Another great video…..I just recently hit in 2 different occasions 2 premium shafts that my friends had in their driver…..I’m becoming a believer that the $$ cost is well worth

Great video as ever gents, I did this test myself earlier this year and had the same findings. Curiously i also found the cpm of the non velocore shaft was higher than the velocore shaft in the same flex almost as if they made the standard version stiffer to attempt to mimic the velocore materials. That was comparing a blue 6s velocore to a 6s standard. The standard was good but the velocore was just plain awesome and for me a real game changer. Thanks

I just got fitted for a Taylormade SIM Max with a Ventus Red shaft (stock). Seems to really suit my swing really well. Interesting to see you swing this combo so well, Matt. I had been thinking during your driver bracket that I was surprised SIM went down in the first round.

Good stuff guys, I would like to see a bracket comp with shafts like you did with drivers. It can be all aftermarket shafts or better yet early graphite shafts verses current shafts.

I have a Ventus Blue 6X vellacore on my TS2 and love it finally got to see what the difference and the price markup is!

I am addicted to this channel....these videos are great. Have they ever talked about the shaft 'pure-ing' service offered by some fitters?

I used non VeloCore for a couple months made the switch. The velocore out performs it and it’s not even close. Great video

Thanks for the usual super analysis. I am going to try the VeloCore version next week. Must admit that my expectations are a little high now but I'm going to go into the fitting with an open mind. The TXG stand bags look awesome! Hopefully one day they'll appear in the online store so we can all represent the brand.

Awesome! Thanks for that!!!!

Chris fit me into Ventus Blue with my F9 last year and you can feel toe strikes that end up in the fairway due to the quality of the shaft...wasn't sure a shaft could be high MOI but I've seen it play out exactly that way

I have a oban devotion stiff tipped 1'inch in my ping G15 driver to me it's the best feeling driver I've ever had which in turn love to get it out the bag on every hole if I could, fills me with confidence but was then told by a ping fitter in the uk it was the wrong shaft I said well I can hit draws and fades and feels brilliant to me.

Matty hammered those!!! Put it in the bag! Did Matty's swing change? Looks like he got the club alittle more horizontal at the top of his backswing than in some previous videos I watched. Great info guys..... thanks!!!!

Great vid. Big thanks for this one.

Awesome video 👍

Great review fellas......I definitely would splash out on an exotic shaft if I was minted😁

I got my self m5 in lock down at great price with a atmos black shaft. I have cobra f9 with a atmos ts black which I fitted for. The shafts are night and day.

I got the oem Ventus on ebay, thinking it was the aftermarket, but I'm glad the difference is not so big. Will try it over the weekend, I am replacing a Fujikura Pro73.

A fitter many years ago opened my eyes to stock store bought shafts , he showed me many examples all brands pulled from drivers against the same aftermarket shaft and most were twice as thick in the wall structure , and clearly they don’t play the same , but it’s really this simple ,if a driver costs say 550 $ , your not getting a 500-700 $ aftermarket shaft in it are you . My initial problem was spraying it both ways with what felt like the same swings , the real shaft straightened it up .

I was fitted with a Velco at Club Champions; interesting in that produced about 5 more MPH (105 up to 109 ) so ball speed was faster. I got fitted to the Black which is lowest flight. I was surprised as I hit low drive typically. Was $350, then spun it , put tip on fitting and shipping was +$600. Very consistent and longest. My local pro toured the factory; shafts are Hand Made. Good materials so pricey.

Strike location and dispersion .... THAT is where the differences lie, and those two things equate to much more efficient and consistent performance! I am a Professional Clubfitter, as well as a Fujikura Charter Dealer, and I have had a chance to hit and play both versions of the Ventus Blue shafts. I got a TM SIM Max D driver about 15 months ago and played it with the TM stock (non-Velocore) shaft for a few months before I replaced it with one of my favorite (non-Fujikura) shafts and played about 30-35 rounds with that driver before selling it. I now have a Sim2 Max driver and have been experimenting with the aftermarket Ventus Blue 6S and 7S shafts with Velocore. The difference in strike and ball dispersion consistency is absolutely remarkable! Buy the way, I still have the TM stock (non-Velocore) Ventus shaft because the guy I sold the Sim Max D driver to did not want that shaft in it. I haven’t done so yet, but I plan to do a side-by-side comparison on the launch monitor to see how dramatic the differences in performance truly are. The question is: Will the Sim2 Max driver be able to beat my Tour Edge Exotics C721 driver with a Ventus Blue shaft with Velocore installed in it?

There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that aftermarket shafts are far superior and can totally transform a golf club. If you're prepared to pay the extra cash you won't be disappointed. Enjoyed the vid, great work as always guys!⛳🏌️👍🏼

I play the Ventus Blue (after market) R2 flex. Even with my slower swing speed I believe the tech is working for me. I was a believer after a couple of swings. Great investment for me.

Great vid! Matt kills the Blue version vice the Black. Get that combo up against Mavreeky.

Ive done this test myself and seen even larger differences but similar patterns... its night and day in my opinion the real ventus is whole heartily worth the upcharge fee

Interesting video. Thanks

Was fitted for Ventus 6S aftermarket version with SIM max driver...flat out best driver ever hit. Never been huge fan of TMag drivers. Big shoutout to Victory Custom golf @ Lake Wylie SC

Got mine today 🤗

I think it’s been a while now that we’ve known about made for shafts compared to Oem shafts of the same brand , it’s pretty obvious if a driver is say 500$ with a particular shaft and the aftermarket shaft is 600-700 $ the manufacturer isn’t giving away the driver for nothing , your getting a watered down version probably around half the wall thickness and will play nothing like the real shaft . Excellent boys another great vid .

Would like to see the UST Mamiya LinQ shaft reviewed Another awesome video boys

Another great Video. I loved your answer with cutting a stiff shaft. Tip it a bit and stiffen it a tad. ( if you are going to do this at all. I’m uncomfortable with shaft length past 44.5. And now these manufacturers are using 45.5 and 46 inches standard. I really wish they’d knock this off. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Great video guys that would have been funny if Matt changed an put the Sim in the bag.

I have the stock non-Velocore Ventus shafts in two TM SIM Max clubs ... a driver plus a 19* hybrid, and I played them for about three weeks prior to the COVID-19 golf course shutdowns, and for close to a month since area courses have reopened. I finally had to take both of these shafts out of play because I had far too many extreme left misses using them (I am a right-handed golfer, and a left miss is my nemesis). I have hit the aftermarket Ventus Blue driver shaft, and didn't experience any bad left misses with it. Actually, the aftermarket Ventus Black would probably be a better fit for my swing, since my current preferred driver shaft is the PX HZRDUS Smoke Yellow, which is almost an anti-left shaft for me. Conversely, I have a golfing buddy who is a smooth swinger and who doesn't come into the ball from the inside the way that I do, and he absolutely loves the stock TM Ventus shafts. He has even had me install one of those shafts in his Titleist driver, and I am just waiting for a couple of PXG adapters to arrive so that I can put non-Velocore Ventus shafts in his hybrids.

Sounds like Matty needs to retest SIM! That way Ian and Matt can play the same driver! This video is a great representation as to why upgraded shafts can be worth it for some!

Whats the basic difference in stiffness between velicore and stock in the same designation i.e. stiff vs stiff. Half a flex ? Or is it so different that profiles are worlds apart.

I would love to see this with Ian putting some fitting magic in the stock shaft...What would the stock shaft play like if it was tipped a bit and built for someone?

Any update on Dave peltz green reading thing he mentioned on the podcast? I know he said look for it end of May but I haven't seen anything.

Excellent breakdown of the difference between these two shafts. Deceptive marketing by TM, but honestly ~95% of SIM buyers are probably better fit for the stock version. Not too many of us are F-1 speed drivers of the ball like Matty!

Great video. I had apparently not seen it. Sold my "older" hybrid to my mate who needed it more than I. I excitedly bought a hybrid with the Ventus blue so how wrong can it go. ... grabbed it, paid and took off. yeah ... It was a stiff shaft but felt a wee soft and the ball landed within the distance I wanted but leaked left and right. Thought it was because was not used to the club. Then I saw something about the velcor and it struck me ... . D A. So club head is great. Shaft is not what I thought. And today ... this video popped up and laughed in my face ... when I saw the first drives from Iron Byron. A great disappointment. And even more a disappointment because I have watched TXG and instead of hitting a few balls ... I grabbed it and took off.

“It’s not the same shaft” PREACH

would spine alignment help the club flex and return more tightly into the same place each time, of have shafts moved on since those days

Could you guys do other comparisons on stock vs. aftermarket versions of the same shaft? I think people would benefit from seeing the differences so they understand exactly why it's worth it to spend the money on top tier fitters such as you guys. Getting custom fit and having friends balk at the extra price you pay for the shafts (along with weighing the heads to make sure they're also in tolerance) and not realizing why they're worth it, to me means there's a lack of education that needs to be fixed :) As an alternate video, it would be really interesting to see a video where you take 10 stock shafts and 10 of the same aftermarket versions, and then measure them to see how well they meet their supposed specs. I think people would be greatly enlightened to see the disparity in tolerances.

Well done again gents. Always a pleasure to watch!

This proves what we've all expected. It's not center strikes, it's increasing the consistency of strikes on the face! With a small sample Matty proved that he would have cost himself a few strokes with the stock version. For a serious golfer who plays 50 rounds/yr on avg, it's 700 drives or so, of which a probably 50-75 drives would have worse outcomes in the year. Amortized across the few years you'll own the club (unless you're a Golfwrx member 😁) that's a small per driver premium. As Ian said, it WILL be reflected in your score

Is it even a txg video if Ian doesn’t start with a clap😅

That is a very interesting video. I wonder if the contrast will be as big for a slower swing speed.