Ventus Shafts Showdown // Testing the all new 2022 Fujikura Ventus TR

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We put the all new 2022 Fujikura Ventus TR shaft to the test against the popular Ventus Blue and Black profiles.
0:00 // Intro to Ventus TR
4:37 // Ventus Blue
8:18 // Ventus Black
12:10 // New Ventus TR
14:06 // Results & Conclusions
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@justinstephenson9360 2 жыл бұрын

What with Ian & Mikey being videoed in the dark - did Club Champion forget to pay the electricity bill? Yes I miss the chemistry of Matt & Ian, but TXG is still the best, most independent source of properly tested information on golf clubs & shafts

@mikewaldie7707 2 жыл бұрын

I think you guys are the only ones doing shaft reviews. Certainly the only ones of any quality. Love it.

@jaytucker4338 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Very informative. In my opinion, this particular video had a great deal of 'relatable' content for me personally. In addition to your unpacking of the three different Ventus shaft models, the side-topic of using low launch 'as a crutch' was something that was valuable to hear. Ryan, well done. Steeping into the spotlight in the 'here and now' takes some courage. Ian and Mikey, well done. I for one, continue to appreciate the information that TXG is sharing. Looking forward to more quality content as we go forward in 2022.

@Steelman1957 2 жыл бұрын

My son, a college golfer, is playing the Ventus blue. He got fitted by a top fitter and ended up in a S flex tipped 3/4 inch even though his swing speed is close to 120. He loves this shaft too. He likes the smooth feel and control he gets from it.

@dw4421 2 жыл бұрын

Shafts are often overlooked when people go shopping for golf equipment, so I’m glad we (hopefully) will get more comparisons for more shaft product lines down the road. That said, I love that Ventus Blue and Ventus TR is more on “feel”. It just means more options for the average golfer. You said it best, Ian: Ventus Black is a very niche market, and so is the Ventus Blue. I feel like this is for those who are stuck in-between. Thanks!

@ChrisShanks2709 2 жыл бұрын

Have been looking forward to this one, also so glad you started doing 4k nice bump to the quality of the content!!!

@ean46514 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve preordered this. I’m so excited that you uploaded this. About to watch

@hazygs7060 2 жыл бұрын

Regarding testing, i’m interested in knowing the differences across the HZRDUS line. There are many different products there, so seeing something on that would be valuable. Thanks.

@stevet.7927 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Always welcome listening Ian work through the various variables that impact golf shots - especially when it is the same theories but with different golfers (e.g. with Ryan this time). Feel like we are getting a PhD in golf club fitting concepts. Keep up the great work and look forward to more.

@RRedSStar 2 жыл бұрын

Super excited to get fitted at TXG at the end of February. Keep up the great content!

@joshnusenbaum7687 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Let’s get more from Ryan - i think his swing is very representative of many average golfers pushing for more speed. Would be great to see him hitting the new lineup of driver heads in a head2head scenario. Also would love to see shaft vs shaft comparisons of a couple of companies (e.g. graphite design vs Ventus vs Mitsubishi - all the versions that would suit his swing, to see what seems best). Love the content as always!!

@mattstrmec 2 жыл бұрын

Ventus Blue has been automatic for me across the whole top part of my bag. I’ve always had different shafts in my long clubs but now Hybrid/Fw/Driver all Ventus Blue.

@nicklaus4512 2 жыл бұрын

Same. First ever premium shaft and felt crazy for spending that much blind off of TXG reviews. Now it’s in every long club.

@anthonycarson7113 2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@samonast 2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else miss the old intro music?

@MK355 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyable video, very interesting. Also great to watch RB smacking drivers, keen to see some new driver tests for him this next season

@benpawson7364 2 жыл бұрын

From a pure entertainment perspective. I enjoyed this video the most since Matt left. I’d love to see more RB on the channel. The videos do seem really dry to me, very quiet and not as much fun any more.

@GenXGolf24 2 жыл бұрын

Wait Matt left why

@GenXGolf24 2 жыл бұрын

When

@Chyeahokay 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I liked Matt’s presence a lot. Him an Ian had good chemistry, and Ian knew Matt’s golf game, so the technical talk flowed well. Gonna be hard to replace him IMO.

@Chyeahokay 2 жыл бұрын

Also. The guy next to Ian doesn’t look comfortable , and needs to speak more, and openly

@nickjohnson5202 2 жыл бұрын

@@Chyeahokay... Mike has no charisma. It's just the ugly truth. People have different social styles and strengths. The camera is not one of his. He's too monotonous, and boring. Not a knock on his knowledge, or being a good fitter... He might get better, but he will never get like Matty boy, or someone who has a dynamic personality. It's not in his dna, and the flow and dialog suffers in contrast to Matt

@papab3272 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to learn more about "loft as a crutch" as someone who's constantly fitted into the lowest loft heads. Great review and really liked the addition of Ryan and what he brings to the process. I'm currently playing the Ventus Black 6S in my driver and Blue 80S in my hybrid. The idea of some black stability with more feel sounds really interesting.

@williaki37 2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I wonder if I’m in that category of player playing my current head at 7 degrees. I guess there’s no way of knowing without checking with a pro.

@canyonaro 2 жыл бұрын

It hurt my feelings when Ian said that lol. You're not alone.

@simowhy5303 2 жыл бұрын

Haha same…I felt attacked! Oh well, if a 14 hcp can’t get a little crutch now and then on the course what can he do? I’ll take it.

@phynamite9 2 жыл бұрын

I have both a black and blue in 70s I have always played the lowest lofted head. But a fitter outside of my stander fitter (actually a TM fitter on a tour truck) pointed out to me that I’m losing to much ball speed trying to hit up. He actually pointed out DJs swing and how his Attack Angle with the driver is steep, which is why he plays a higher lofted driver over the typical bombers 4-8° heads. I swung a few shots with an 10.5° at 11° and my entire world was rocked. Because of my speed, nobody has ever put a higher lofted driver in my hands. It’s worth exploring, my smash went up, my spin went down. I don’t have to try and force my swing up on contact. I just deliver the head. I don’t know if that’s what he’s trying to get at, but I can say as a guy who swings 123 on average a higher lofted driver has actually improved a lot of my game.

@DSizzle 2 жыл бұрын

@@phynamite9 do you use the black or blue?

@erik2446 2 жыл бұрын

Love Ian's analysis of the swing.

@mjmalone75 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this....Let's Go

@russellkempe3231 2 жыл бұрын

I have Ventus Blue on all of my woods thanks to TXG. They make my SIM(1) great.

@PbD187 2 жыл бұрын

Love it boys! Class as always!

@acemakerjay 2 жыл бұрын

I just purchased the Ventus Blue TR in a 5 R. Should get it for next weekend. I liked how you fitted to it. Can't wait to see you use it outside.

@garycoleman6267 2 жыл бұрын

Great review guys, 👍👍 to RB!!

@patrickbarter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Would love to hear more about tipping on this and the black/blue shafts as well as to see this shaft compared on a swing that has more neutral swing dynamics + high speed (we miss Matt!).

@brint90 2 жыл бұрын

Nice seeing RB in there. More of him!!

@evoviiiyou831 2 жыл бұрын

Love this gents! Keep up the great work. How about a tipped Red “purple” vs the Blue TR?

@zacharybouthillier6182 2 жыл бұрын

Highlight that please^^^

@waynepark4430 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see clubs compared with/against its competitors. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. The new Callaway Rogue and PXG got my interest.

@timbuma3693 2 жыл бұрын

Video quality looks great!

@preppyx_0412 Жыл бұрын

Just got fitted for new driver & shaft @ the weekend. I was hitting taylormade m3. Stiff shaft standard. Ended up walking away with cobra LTDx LS shaft black ventus fujikura 6x. The difference in a proper fitting is unreal. Expensive, but I'm looking forward to get it on the course once it's made

@whogg0521 2 жыл бұрын

This was great. I love weight of really stiff shafts, but like the more smooth feel.

@chrisnakashima3402 2 жыл бұрын

Love the candle lit vibe from the boys

@scotthansen4692 2 жыл бұрын

Look at RB as a tester, LOVE THIS. RB is the man.

@m3tek44 2 жыл бұрын

Another great vid!! I can agree as I'm using black ventus on my driver but for wood/hybrid I was fitted with blue. I too feel i need to swing harder with driver so i can related here.

@frankvuletin8700 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ian last year you talked about testing Patterson’s budget Accuflex type shaft. Any progress on securing one for a test?

@joshwideman8009 2 жыл бұрын

We need to see a Ventus Red tipped “purple” vs the Ventus TR next.

@anthonybozo2329 2 жыл бұрын

What love yo see comparisons between. The Ventus shafts and comparable graphite design shafts

@golf007sd2 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative...TY. Indeed, at $350 (US) the Ventus shaft do have a tendency to push many golfers toward a different type of Fujikura shafts or its competitors. In addition, at times, shafts of this caliber are hard to come by for "testing."

@lawbinson 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see RB on

@alldaydill3374 2 жыл бұрын

Just got fitted yesterday.. hit the ventus tr blue.. added 40 yards to my drive and cut my spin rate in half. Expensive.. but one of the best shafts on the market

@nickjohnson8246 2 жыл бұрын

Talking costs of the Ventus line, I've heard the UST Proforce V2 can work as a poor man's Ventus. I had a 60X in a Srixon 565 and I wasn't much for the feel but it was an accurate rocket launcher for sure. Had it playing at 44". May try a tipped one at 45" for fun. Also, good work by Barath. Enjoyed his MyGolfSpy articles and KZfaq channel (when it was a thing).

@davidsantiago8965 Жыл бұрын

Yes my nigga proforce v2 is best shaft for the money, try the white tspx v2 it’s their tour model, also recommend the gen 4 hzrds black, On a different note, Autoflex is also a great shaft only I destroyed mine trying to pull it. The ventus is over rated in my opinion, i am very weak however and even though I get good numbers w the ventus, it feels terrible

@ScottDreyfus 2 жыл бұрын

I'm seeing some crazy good smash numbers with the new TR.

@hapkimoodoacademy 2 жыл бұрын

Miss Matty but this is nice and refreshing also. Very close to my speed also which really helps. 👍

@jscates3079 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the video. As always a few new nuggets of information which leaves me wanting more! Question...watched the video again from a year ago comparing stock Ventus in TM versus after market Ventus, which came to the conclusion that you were comparing apples to oranges. I have the Ventus Blue 5-S stock shaft in my Sim2 Max but would like to step it up with an aftermarket shaft. Is the new Ventus TR still a completely different beast from the stock Ventus in TM? If so, is there a shaft you've found that compares to the stock Ventus Plus 5-S, or is it time to see a fitter? LOL

@whogg0521 2 жыл бұрын

When I first got truly fitted, I loved the Aldila NV, but then the UST pro force stiff had the same CPM numbers, but felt smoother to me at a D4 SW. Used that for a long time until my fitting to a G30 head with a Tour Stiff. A bit high launching, so turned down the loft on a 10.5 head.

@ean46514 2 жыл бұрын

I play a black 6tx. Dislike the feel. Love the stability. I ordered a 6X tr. tipped 1/2”. What’s your thoughts? (I do like blue feel for the load helping me feel timing)

@danielcohen3159 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with Ian on not using loft as a crutch. My swing speed is only 95-98, but I hit the ball high, so I end up using 9º and even turning down to 8º sometimes. But when I hit 10.5º or 11º I have to make the proper setup and body movements to keep the flight down and I end up making a better move through the ball. Then when I do that with the 9º the flight is where it "should" be for my speed, that is to say, too low. So I'm getting away with some inefficient movements with the lower loft, and the 10.5º shows what needs to be worked on!

@adamspencer9280 2 жыл бұрын

Well done RB, as a normal/good/improving golfer this can't of been easy. I liked that it was mortal representative.

@ricardomurcia7050 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@joshuawilliams3221 2 жыл бұрын

Also, would love to see the Fuji MC pro iron shafts reviewed

@nealfreeman01 2 жыл бұрын

The old purple/ yellow and black/ yellow UST had the hype too back in the day.

@eriksvideos6022 2 жыл бұрын

Of course we miss Matty but I appreciate RB because his swing profile and numbers are almost identical to mine. I also appreciate what Ian said about adding loft instead of using a low-lofted head as a crutch. I'll try that.

@JAZZZ654 2 жыл бұрын

PADERSON VELOCITY!!! Please test this shaft. You teased it late in December but never did a video on it! Anyways, you all can do no wrong in my eyes. Thanks for all the quality reviews. I’m your biggest fan.

@clubchampionmedia 2 жыл бұрын

😂, we love you right back Jacob and for you I’ll make sure that video happens within the next couple of weeks!!! Ian

@royahoy8655 2 жыл бұрын

Is that you Stan.....

@kingly71 2 жыл бұрын

just venturing into a ventus for first time. Kinda saw a new element to shafts when I tried a Diamana TB. Stability was thru the roof for me with the 70tx. Got me thinking the ventus stability story might be worth checking out. Was in a Diamana DF/Fuji Pro 2.0 beforehand (a favorite on the channel, or used to be anyway).

@andrewlucas5559 2 жыл бұрын

I know you guys stay busy but any chance you could do a review or help with this question on which is better, a 13.5/15 degree three wood. I play a 9 degree driver. Thank you guys for the help and videos!

@nadams97132 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see a comparison of the Graphite Design line. Doing something along the lines of the OG Tour AD DI to the Tour AD XC to the Tour AD UB.

@kasperm1648 2 жыл бұрын

The low loft as a crutch deserves a video of its own. I'm considering buying a new driver with lower loft to bring launch and spin down, but I would like to learn about other options and why low loft might not be the way to go.

@dannyc91a 2 жыл бұрын

its like watching my own swing. numbers are almost identical and i could never understand why i hit my irons quite far yet cant fly my driver past 270. now im seeing its my launch

@hazygs7060 2 жыл бұрын

Being super selfish here but would like to see a lot more RB on the channel. Our swings are fairly similar, so I’m pretty keen to see how he responds to different equipment.

@jggolf4033 2 жыл бұрын

What driver head would you recommend for someone who liked the face of the original Sim? That shallow face really suited me and I can't find a new 8° Sim. I like hitting a 3 wood so maybe that's why I like the shallow faced driver head.

@jeenyusboarder35 2 жыл бұрын

a comparison of Tensei 1k White, Accra TZ5 and Ventus TR would be great!

@MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz 2 жыл бұрын

Whats a more affordable option for the Ventus TR with similar characteristics Thanks Good stuff

@FF04RDF 2 жыл бұрын

Currently play the Ventus 6S and the more I play with it the more I like it. I am curious about the lighter 5S though. Would you be able to review the 5 S please?

@allenwood5411 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the first look at the new TR! I've always wanted to test Ventus shafts, but I'm not fortunate enough to have a fitting center in my state with a selection of aftermarket shafts available to test. Options for new clubs are stock, stock upgrade (if in stock), or "buy before you try." I'm also very curious about Graphite Design shafts, for that matter... I've watched all your shaft review videos, but I've never seen a head to head comparison between the Ventus offerings and GD. Would this be a comparison video TXG would be willing to try? Cheers Boys 🍻

@cubuffs5601 2 жыл бұрын

Curious if you would typically fit a 108-110 SS into an X flex? I would have thought this was still solidly in the S flex range. Especially tipped it seems like in might be too stiff for the speed?

@joseenriques5791 Жыл бұрын

Its so so so hard to find a GOOD review of the STEELFIBER iron shafts on KZfaq!!! That would be a great content Ian!

@geoffreypleavin5268 2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to hear Ian’s comments on the value of fitting these premium shafts to the average golfer versus the stick shafts supplied by vendors. Is there value in dollars spent and or performance between the two?

@nicklaus4512 2 жыл бұрын

They did a stock Ventus vs Velocore video ages ago and touched on something like this question I recall. As an 80-90 golfer that’s gone from stock shaft to premium ventus it’s 100% been worth it for me and changed my long game completely

@NovaScene 2 жыл бұрын

There is many videos in KZfaq about that, the difference is very minimal in most cases since many club manufacturer already offer a shaft setup that's pretty good fit with the head. For example with Ping and Taylormade, you can get get fit so well you don't really need a $400 shaft on top. But many buy these shafts because they want to, they look and feel cool.

@scotts1691 2 жыл бұрын

@@NovaScene in my experience, none of the taylormade stock offerings worked for me but im more of a hitter with a very aggressive transition. . Ventus black brought my spin into a better window and helped out my super high launch. I did not purchase yet because I am going to look around and see what I can do about the insane cost of the stealth...might go to a PXG fitting as I can get their nicest driver with a $300 shaft for a stock Stealth price. The RDX red I really did like though and would certainly look to use that as a fairway wood shaft. It just launched higher and a bit more spinny.

@dabaumga 2 жыл бұрын

Man that TR is very intriguing!

@Sam-od5bj 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video comparing the true temper x100 tour issue, X7, project x 7.0, project x 7.0 LS, and project x rifle 7.0 shaft?

@noodle3872 2 жыл бұрын

Love to see Diamana PD testing.

@lawbinson 2 жыл бұрын

With RB on, hoping we get to see a bit more old/classic vs new gear comparisons!

@Catchlax13 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a comparison video between the Ventus Blue/Black and Kai'li? Two sure fire top-selling shafts that seem to be rivaling themselves this year. Thanks!

@robcoates5253 2 жыл бұрын

Smooth and stable... Sign me up!

@larsdahlquist1007 Жыл бұрын

Very good review! But what kind of shaft is for me as a golfer with around 140 mph ballspeed with the driver? Seeking a high launch low spin ball trajectory.

@danpen1 Жыл бұрын

You guys are too harsh, this is a good channel. Relax and enjoy the info.

@Scoob_y 2 жыл бұрын

Could you guys review the new True Temper Elevate MPH iron shafts?

@johns7446 2 жыл бұрын

The Ventus Blue in stock TM drivers is not a Velocore model, how much would this effect performance _ is it softer, any thoughts guys? Any further ideas on Hzrdus Smoke Blue v Ventus Blue - much difference, anybody got a quick answer on that? :)

@robh316 2 жыл бұрын

Ian are there any shafts similar to the hzrdus smoke green 6.0 70g shafts?

@josephinecampbell3196 2 жыл бұрын

I like to see the Ventus vs the Tensi

@donkee9 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a tour ad guy. But I really want to try these.

@steve827 2 жыл бұрын

Ventus blue is great outside of when you get over 120+ on course it’s quite easy to over power and it’s gets a bad case of the lefts .. the TR seems to be stiffer in the butt which sounds like the go

@extacy10 2 жыл бұрын

Missing have The consistence of knowing Matts swing and being able to make a judgment off it. Also the distance 😞. Should the new guy be using Ventus Red given the swing speed.

@davezalinko1354 2 жыл бұрын

I need a new shaft for my PING G425, currently have Alta CB 55 Stiff. Swing speed 108-110. Getting too much trajectory, and balls goes left to right at times. I’m a left hander. Not sure what I should be trying??

@frankvuletin8700 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone know if Cobra has an update for the King Forged Tec irons dropping this year ?

@KarlOtterman 2 жыл бұрын

Totally irrelevant to these shafts, but I’ve been curious about the role swing weight plays in conjunction with swing speed to achieve the greatest distance. A video testing that would be interesting to see. I play av raw white 75s and swing around 117-120 mph with driver. I think I’m at the top of d5 maybe d6 in swing weight. In theory dropping down to a 65 gram shaft would increase my swing speed, but would the loss of swing weight affect my overall distance?

@leafs2994 2 жыл бұрын

Going from air speeder 45 or ventus blue 5 r . Sim2 max d driver , 95 mph swing speed . What is differences in shafts ?

@jwild5360 2 жыл бұрын

I think kai li white 60tx vs Ventus TR in the 60x would be a great comparison. Both shafts trying to accomplish the same thing. Kai li taper butt to achieve blue profile feel while keeping the tip ultra stiff for white profile numbers.

@TheMuffs2004 2 жыл бұрын

What delivery conditions would cause high launch with very low driver spin. Like my Maverik Sub Zero with the weight back set at 8* launches about 16-17* with sub 2000 spin. I’ve always been a high ball hitter but high hitter with low spin is really confusing me because even with 113-114 club speed miss hits can sometimes just fall out of the air.

@devonmccalla498 2 жыл бұрын

Could you test the Ventus black 5x? Isn’t that new as well?

@vladdrag25 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see more shaft testing with fairway woods.

@dennispatrickkiley390 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, looks like another winning shaft. Ryan, you mentioned picking up ball speed, what training technique did you use to pick up that additional speed?

@buddymaxwell6881 2 жыл бұрын

He uses the "Stack System", there's a video where he talks about it. I think Ian did a driver fitting for him in the video.

@dennispatrickkiley390 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@buddymaxwell6881 2 жыл бұрын

@@dennispatrickkiley390 I use it myself. I gained a lot through using it, at least 25 yards of carry so far. $350.00 including the workout App (which is the biggest feature to me). Little pricey, but cheaper than a new driver.

@squeezeprod 2 жыл бұрын

cool vid. would like to see a demo of VA Composites Baddazz shaft. Fairway and Greens guys..

@bryanborsum4964 2 жыл бұрын

While it’s lovely to see Matty’s crushing drives on the regular, it’s also nice to see someone with a more mere-mortal swing speed demoing the new technology!

@mattgasn9927 2 жыл бұрын

Used to love this channel. Just not the same without Matty. Hope the videos start to liven up soon

@travisscudder12 2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned that you would always tip a x flex shaft. Why would you tip this? I have a Blue 6x and a black 6s and I am exact position the person hitting. I am wondering if tipping the x would help optimize just a little more.

@johnk.atchley5079 2 жыл бұрын

Would like to see comparison testing involving Graphite Design models

@carlos121ish 2 жыл бұрын

Please test the LA golf (Blue,White,Red) Driver/Fairways shafts in new Stealth

@Derek_Ryan 2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t this a simulator story to Kai’li? Blue board feel with white board performance?

@mjbWx03 2 жыл бұрын

Ian, how do you decide how much to tip a shaft? I swing around 105, and find myself a bit in between the S and X in the Ventus Blue.

@JohnK222inf 2 жыл бұрын

The manufacturer of ventus doesn’t recommend tipping the these shafts..so I wouldn’t worry about it with the ventus line..imo

@ocdchaos5580 2 жыл бұрын

There is a Matt imposter on here hitting golf balls!! 😮

@raystanbury8397 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is obviously a great player. He did say with the black he had to work harder, my thinking is with the golf swing, harder can introduce tension and tension is not good. Please let me know your view on this. Love your vlogs. Regards Ray.