Lost Ark is DOOMED To Fail in the West | Xeno Reacts to Pro Russian Wizard Divium Furor

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Xenosys Vex

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Lost Ark is pay to win and is Doomed to fail on the west server but Pepega youtubers don't want you to know that. Good thing Divium Furor has got your back and, as a Lost Ark Russian Pro explains why Lost Ark will fail. In this video Xeno reacts reacts to "Is Lost Ark DOOMED on West ?" and compares Lost Ark with other Korean MMOs such as Aion and Tera and draws parallels between the monetization systems in these games.
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@pngmk2
@pngmk2 2 жыл бұрын
Just for the record, the publisher are allowed to change a bit, but mostly for the RNG elements. In Taiwan, there is a mobo MMO called Lineage M. It was developed in S. Korea as well. Few months ago, there was a streamer actually testing the RNG elements on stream (by spending around 36k USD, it is pay-to-win, afterall). And the publisher appearantly set the success rates LOWER than the actual rates disclosed by their Korean counterpart.
@SS369
@SS369 2 жыл бұрын
But of course. Westerners are way too bitchy and you need to satisfy their desires in order to get them to spend their money. Since those desires are a bit hard to reach, better make it easier for that money to flow in. It's patience. They are banking on patience.
@feykro222
@feykro222 2 жыл бұрын
Lineage M is even funnier. They had an event and during the event they had server issues. So they made a rollback and people lost the items they bought for $$$. Devs response? They gave players some worthless currency and company kept the money. So some guy who spent like 2 millions USD over multiple years was camping in front of their office and wanted his money back. He got only arrested
@neckbeardo1233
@neckbeardo1233 2 жыл бұрын
That's so shady lol. Ffs.
@Nijuka87
@Nijuka87 2 жыл бұрын
@@feykro222 I say f that shite, they won’t get a cent from me
@omegaxtrigun
@omegaxtrigun 2 жыл бұрын
@@SS369 Imagine thinking that people having actual standards is them being "way too bitchy" lol.
@Selvokaz
@Selvokaz 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why most Korean MMOs remove story elements is that their way of telling stories becomes so scatterbrained, that it takes them 10 years to remember they've trailed off the beaten path and thus have to trim the fat/bloat from the story to keep it focused again.
@V0Ontis
@V0Ontis 2 жыл бұрын
*cough* Actiblizzard *cough* WoW *wheeze*
@solusgamer164
@solusgamer164 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno: "there's some people that don't even have time to cap Final Fantasy" Me at work listening in on the video: "Reset was a couple days ago and I'm still at 0/450. I mighta got a couple tomes last week"
@ocsanchez522ify
@ocsanchez522ify 2 жыл бұрын
Me, casual af gamer dad, capped every week with daily expert. Almost hit 90 on every job. :o
@InarusLynx
@InarusLynx 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm not nearly committed enough to cap every week. I get home at 8 pm and in bed by 11 pm. Plus I do other things like lost ark sometimes.
@diviumfuror
@diviumfuror 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Reaction. I am Amazed how you understand more, than people who actually playing the game.
@ducksarecool03
@ducksarecool03 2 жыл бұрын
Love your sincerity sir, as an avid fan of a game and calling out the flaws while still enjoying it. Not like Stoopz whos shilling and pretending these problems never happen.
@ssjjpark4660
@ssjjpark4660 2 жыл бұрын
@@ducksarecool03 He only guessed the problem but didn't try it. Rather than turning a blind eye to a problem, the bad thing is to pretend to know without trying. The reasonable reasoning he says is wrong. That video was wrong in terms of material supply and demand. Most gamers can buy materials from in-game goods on the exchange. Only those who have played that game can determine whether Stopz is lying or not. This person doesn't have to play Lost Ark. But it's foolish to guess that you'll fail without doing it. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to do it, but there's no reason to explain It is a lie to say that you don't want to do it because it is p2w. This is because claiming p2w only comes from the final content of the game. You don't have to ignore others for your favorite streamer.
@Airlinecuisine
@Airlinecuisine 2 жыл бұрын
I think for us people who have played these types of mmo's before we already know and have an expectation for how things are gonna go so we understand exactly what you're saying. a lot of the hype right now for lost ark is from people who do not know, but they will find out. I give it a years time.
@jotunn30
@jotunn30 2 жыл бұрын
@@Airlinecuisine If people get a year’s worth from a free MMO that’s huge lol some people are acting like this game is gonna die in a week just cause they for some reason can’t stand it has hype lol
@alexmaganda5827
@alexmaganda5827 2 жыл бұрын
@@jotunn30 excactly my thoughts even if you only complete the msq alone of lost ark youve got a fun experience and its free
@Hades_Tempest
@Hades_Tempest 2 жыл бұрын
That guy’s scene transitions were legendary.
@yordleirl5642
@yordleirl5642 2 жыл бұрын
I liked that he brought up DFO since that game started on the wrong foot in Global (EXP was a lot harder to get, quest items weren't guaranteed so you had to repeat the same quest multiple times, enemies had horrible scaling and were incredibly hard to kill at times) which ruined whatever momentum the game had at the time, Global DFO patched out a lot of that away and have made it significantly less stupid to level up and grind late game but the damage is done :( Also that's only concurrent players playing DFO on the Steam Launcher, game has it's own launcher on their website which doesn't show active users, same as FFXIV.
@yordleirl5642
@yordleirl5642 2 жыл бұрын
Also so funny when later when talking about upgrades he mentions 1st awakening, 2nd awakening, upgrading gear to +15, etc... This is the exact same model DFO uses for upgrades lmao.
@Kairax
@Kairax 2 жыл бұрын
@@yordleirl5642 Fuck me.... i never got anything beyond +9 in Arad Senki (Jp version of DNF). Chance of destroying weapon is too damn high.
@paddyyy_
@paddyyy_ 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, that video sounds to me like forced exaggeration to generate clicks with something controversial and it worked out, because people who were against it at the beginning and have no idea how the western version differs specifically, use it as their fuel now. He's very vague with some stuff, which i think is on purpose and i wouldn't be surprised if some of this is straight up wrong for the western version.
@yordleirl5642
@yordleirl5642 2 жыл бұрын
@@paddyyy_ Some things could change, but I doubt it would be significant, most of the systems sound up to par with what it usually is in Korean MMOs, like I mentioned on my previous post, a lot of the systems seem borrowed and you'd expect out of those (i.e. awakening, multiple forms of upgrades which take high tier materials, RNG when upgrading, chance to lose items, etc) and ultimately you don't need to overly explain how system works since a lot of that gets even more confusing. A small, concise video explaining the gist of it to a general audience is more appealing and probably better for a lot of people that might want to get into it but don't know much about the game or for people that know enough already from playing other mmos.
@Willias
@Willias 2 жыл бұрын
@Yordle IRL Lost Ark is literally ARPG DFO. Look at the classes and you can see that much.
@panamakira
@panamakira 2 жыл бұрын
37:05 Seriously! The game is fun but the P2W mechanics are so obvious. So many people in copium expecting Amazon to completely change the game lmao
@MoonyDrak
@MoonyDrak 2 жыл бұрын
@@fivedudes My god. How deep in the compium tank are you? Jesus Christ! He never said you needed +25 once. Also, just because you don't need to do it doesn't mean you wouldn't want to. A LOT of people play MMOs for the progression. People find enjoyment in maxing out their characters and like you said, it makes it easier for farming.
@voidtalongaming4637
@voidtalongaming4637 2 жыл бұрын
I trust Amazon to do anything about as much as I trust a rabid alligator. If it doesn't make them more money and violate your privacy even more they aren't interested... oh but the ones RUNNING everything want their privacy protected. I still can't believe Elon tried to pay a kid $5000 to stop tracking his private jet using public flight data.
@Aurrs
@Aurrs 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonyDrak ya most ppl sit around t3 +13 and stop pushing super hard for anything more, its better to just go make another character or start rolling for good accessories or getting a good ability stone than try to go higher than +13
@Vaeris69
@Vaeris69 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonyDrak at 27:10 - 27:23 he literally said "You upgrade your whole Argus set to +25" ...
@MoonyDrak
@MoonyDrak 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vaeris69 yeah, and? Where did he say you needed to upgrade to +25 to be able to do end content?
@awerges2205
@awerges2205 2 жыл бұрын
34:10 -> He left out resource cost 6 -> Distilled human suffering for going through an upgrade system that depends on rng.
@marmics96
@marmics96 2 жыл бұрын
A few weeks ago i would have agreed but after 4 weeks of savage grinding and rolling low on every 2 chest run and getting no drop made be believe that ffxiv cant be thaaat much on the high horse. Ofc its not 1:1 the same, but rng bullshit is everywhere
@Radicalgasm
@Radicalgasm 2 жыл бұрын
@@marmics96 you get books though where you can 100% buy everything after a certain amount of weeks, no RNG at all for anything ...
@marmics96
@marmics96 2 жыл бұрын
@@Radicalgasm Oh yea let me do P1S for 5 months to get my BIS for accessoires so that the new patch then can make it obsolete :)
@Mr_wisk
@Mr_wisk 2 жыл бұрын
@@marmics96 but the game is not all p1s, so even if you dont get lucky you still can get gear from another content in the game right?
@Radicalgasm
@Radicalgasm 2 жыл бұрын
@@marmics96 5 months lol
@EverianKalim
@EverianKalim 2 жыл бұрын
Xeno mentions Manastones and +15 in Aion Me: *PTSD Flashbacks to Miragents Crafting and Set*
@xactruchvalley
@xactruchvalley 2 жыл бұрын
"Date first, Vaccine never" Bruh 😂😂😂😂😂
@dislikebutton6596
@dislikebutton6596 2 жыл бұрын
Would be better if xeno had a horn instead of a bell. Like your videos xenos!
@AVAIong
@AVAIong 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think people played enough f2p korean mmo to understand that the first couple months is fun, but then when new contents start rolling in that's when the real p2w start. It's always like this. And as stated in the video new contents also make previous contents obsolete so if you start Lost Ark late, you either pay tons of money to catch up or you'll just forever be behind and can never find people to do old contents with. Basically you save more money with a monthly subscription with a game like FF14 more than the F2P korean mmo.
@Haruka_May
@Haruka_May 2 жыл бұрын
Peak savings is playing both. I'm taking full advantage of the couple fun months from Lost Ark during the FFXIV content draught and once that's done there should be new content in FFXIV.
@thebossman972
@thebossman972 2 жыл бұрын
I think bdo does a good job at making end game gear actually obtainable. I tried to hit lost ark 560ilvl and failed 8 times now I’m supposed to make 4 Alts to do dailies and weeklys while swipers are already at 1200ilvl….
@Ellianu
@Ellianu 2 жыл бұрын
Only that Lost ARK has been out in Korea for 2 years, and "but then when new contents start rolling in that's when the real p2w start." is still yet o happen.
@voidtalongaming4637
@voidtalongaming4637 2 жыл бұрын
Played TERA between Generation 1 and 3, I managed to build a GenWeapon most tiers and base +12 armor (never 15). Was fun in Generation 1 but miserable in 3 and 4 and I quit forever when 5 released. This game seems like it's got the same model, it will do well and make a lot of money then slowly die just like TERA and AION as the monetization kills it.
@HalfLifeHalfDead
@HalfLifeHalfDead 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ellianu Except it has happened? The game is very p2w in Korea...
@Banana-cc5rx
@Banana-cc5rx 2 жыл бұрын
For people who are confuse why the maximum visa is an instant straight upward progression it's because you are +25-ing a lower raid gear, which provides insane stats as compared to a +10/15 of a slightly higher tier gear. But the game is designed to be near impossible to +25 unless you swipe. You basically can just skip all the boss 2,3,4 gears with a max out 1 boss gear straight to 5 Dual wielding credit cards win
@davidgirardgonthier2147
@davidgirardgonthier2147 2 жыл бұрын
to reach the top content atm youre 100% right but give it a year and itll be different im nearly in t3 content by playing casually
@Banana-cc5rx
@Banana-cc5rx 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgirardgonthier2147 that's besides the point. I find it funny alot of people constantly bringing the whole "just play the game" point up when it's not even related to the concerns. The issue is with p2w enabled, it devalues the amount of hard work people actually put into the game. You say you hit T3 playing causally, well good for you. Oh yea btw that guy right there, he just start this morning and he is T4 on the way to 5 right now, he is super casual I'm sure. Huh? You are saying it doesn't matter since it doesn't concern you? Well you are not wrong, in fact you are totally right it doesn't matter to you how someone elses plays. But it does matter to Bob and Joe and their entire guild who are aiming for server first and put in the effort for the past 3 months.
@piplup4752
@piplup4752 2 жыл бұрын
@@Banana-cc5rx this explanation is so accurate
@fedesotilpazzo91
@fedesotilpazzo91 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Banana-cc5rx uh its not on eu/na server yet right? not really its already in u can just buy gear with gold on ah or buy matts with gold u can buy gold with orange crystal u can buy blue crystal the fake f2p currency that u can yes obtain in game but u can also straight up buy with orange paypal crystal ahahah i mean ok bro the blue crystal its like the best stuff, u can just open the shop and buy t1-2-3 matts with that using the mary offer shop thingy with blue crystal buy fucking mount that do make u move faster buy ships skins that just straight up bypass some mechanics (like the fucking battleship that auto repair it self) uh yes u can get to like 1500 in like dunno maybe 2-3moth or just paypal it in a week and i say week cause server sucks atm and on my eu server there are like 25k queue
@Banana-cc5rx
@Banana-cc5rx 2 жыл бұрын
@@fedesotilpazzo91 are you asking me a question or trying to quote sometime I am utterly confused
@halflucan
@halflucan 2 жыл бұрын
The Fandaniel impression is on point 😂
@SS369
@SS369 2 жыл бұрын
In the EU we (mostly) grow up with day/month/year. I got sooo confused in the past before I found out I should double-check... Imagine me asking my teacher in first grade what is the 26th month of the year xDDDD
@aria.e
@aria.e 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago a super whale Korean player said that the game is p2w and will not survive in the west, so nothing new for me and my region is blocked anyway.
@Saxonsredux
@Saxonsredux 2 жыл бұрын
The game will survive simply because of the whales that will be spending thousands on it. That doesnt mean that the ecosystem of the game will be in a healthy or even fun state. No one likes getting stomped on by the 40 top players who decided they wanted to all form a guild together so they'd never lose anything ever.
@haleynaga5671
@haleynaga5671 2 жыл бұрын
me from SEA seeing mmoarpg is like seeing ants, its everywhere and most of them dont last long , thats what happen when almost all the game looks and character customization look the same but just diffrent names, not hating but i always wonders why it all use the same engine
@LegendaryBrandon1
@LegendaryBrandon1 2 жыл бұрын
Same with FF after a while everyone just looks the same. Plus now it’s just mi’qotes running around anyways
@fredriklind6727
@fredriklind6727 2 жыл бұрын
when he said on lunch, Xenos brain took a few seconds to process that.
@asianbeowulf4276
@asianbeowulf4276 2 жыл бұрын
Calling a Korean game a weeb version of a Japanese game... Guess he was trying to have a hip zoomer moment. 😂
@Haruka_May
@Haruka_May 2 жыл бұрын
System's undeniably garbage but glad I don't give a shit about BIS tryharding. Just playing the game casually like a single player game and will get out once the grind hits, don't think the P2W is worth completely avoiding it. There's some fun to have.
@ducbinh199
@ducbinh199 2 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised that Xenos known about valkyrie profile
@seekittycat
@seekittycat 2 жыл бұрын
Korean BBQ transition has to do with "Mukbangs" which is a stream where people watch people eat on camera. It's super popular in Korean and a bajillion dollar industry there but not widely accepted everywhere else. It's to illustrate his point that just because something is popular in korea it doesn't mean it's popular everywhere else.
@antilarge7860
@antilarge7860 2 жыл бұрын
Why play a game with p2w upgrading system in the first place?
@sunbark4927
@sunbark4927 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's fun.
@KarasumanXiii
@KarasumanXiii 2 жыл бұрын
because people cant possibly miss the new latest hype train so excuse things to be part of it
@quoctrungnguyen4553
@quoctrungnguyen4553 2 жыл бұрын
tell that to people playing Genshin
@sosleepy512
@sosleepy512 2 жыл бұрын
at least this upgrade system is 1000 times better than bdo. you cant drop tiers nor will your accessories explode
@antilarge7860
@antilarge7860 2 жыл бұрын
@@sosleepy512 Just because it's better than BDO that does not make it a great or good system
@zyeran
@zyeran 2 жыл бұрын
New Concept: Spouse of Duty. Be the person holding the person holding the gun. Spouse of Duty bringing new meaning to "indirect fire".
@AndroidA258
@AndroidA258 2 жыл бұрын
are all these numbers based on the western version? i heard they changed some aspects of the game
@nbomberguy44
@nbomberguy44 2 жыл бұрын
@@fivedudes copium
@patyos2
@patyos2 2 жыл бұрын
This video just made me want to try Dungeon Fighter Online again
@pikaboi4408
@pikaboi4408 2 жыл бұрын
I love Xenos react videos like this smile smile SMILE :)
@zyeran
@zyeran 2 жыл бұрын
08:38 That my boy is the plot. The warm soft, jiggly, supple brea- I mean PLOT!
@emiwiaffxiv776
@emiwiaffxiv776 Жыл бұрын
@Xenosys Vex Naw Tera was +12, Alkahest was for enchanting along with another piece of gear that went into the same slot, master engimatic scrolls were for rerolling and masterworking the gear (non-masterwork gear can only go to +9) and spellbind was for locking the stats. Later on in the game's life some gear could be awakened and it would go to +15 but it was really cringe.
@tankplank69
@tankplank69 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I subscribed to this channel is that bloody bell
@ThatGuysFriends
@ThatGuysFriends 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I feel back at home in my KMMO’s terrible for the player, but optimized for maximum marketability and milking!
@F3nryl
@F3nryl 2 жыл бұрын
I fail to see how lost ark is p2w, it has skins and mounts like ffxiv gw2 and wow ...name any other mmo that doesnt do the same
@ASackOfPotatoes
@ASackOfPotatoes 2 жыл бұрын
@@F3nryl If you watch the video you'll see why it's p2w. Idk what else to tell you
@gabrielrodriguez9142
@gabrielrodriguez9142 2 жыл бұрын
Damn some copium people here if they cant see the pay to win lol.
@F3nryl
@F3nryl 2 жыл бұрын
@@ASackOfPotatoes did u even play the EU version dude? He is watching a video of russia and korea version which are p2w yes, but the current version we have isnt less or more p2w than final, you can buy story skips in final, you can buy class boosts in final, is thaz p2w?
@F3nryl
@F3nryl 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielrodriguez9142 idk dude p2w for me is when u have to pay 20€ to level faster ..oh wait... ffxiv is p2w too? I might be on copium but on the other hand i dont see any elements of LA right now that are p2w, this guy is talking about russian version - which is completely different
@CaffeineInjected
@CaffeineInjected 2 жыл бұрын
Great video especially when starting trash talking the peeps that think BIS Is like some kind of mandatory thing. Fuck them. Great Video Xenosys! SKILL > GEAR Never watched any of your videos before but I liked your approach.
@NekoSylvee
@NekoSylvee 2 жыл бұрын
22:35 is all i needed to see to take a step back and start chilling if there is a catchup event LMAO ill just sell mats for gold here and there rather then full tryhard EZ GOLD
@AZNBeefcake
@AZNBeefcake 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just here to see him react to ding dong
@thisaccountismymain
@thisaccountismymain 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a cameo? FROM XEEMS?
@burningpower5229
@burningpower5229 2 жыл бұрын
No one plays DFO on team though, it has a proper launcher
@notoriousotaran8015
@notoriousotaran8015 2 жыл бұрын
BDO is hella pay to win but still has a solid Western playerbase. Lost Ark will likely stay around that tier. MMOs don't really need 20 million players to be successful
@eternalinsignia
@eternalinsignia 2 жыл бұрын
Well BDO is not alienating Asian player. Meanwhile this game basically close Asian player. If you see a lot of F2P game, a lot of money by region are comes from Asia especially the East Asia.
@lauruva4314
@lauruva4314 2 жыл бұрын
I'd hardly consider BDO successful, but that might just be my controversial opinion.
@jormungandr4690
@jormungandr4690 2 жыл бұрын
I just checked and that amount of players is abysmal for an MMO. I literally dread to think what the AH looks like and lost ark is a game where you HAVE TO buy shit from AH
@notoriousotaran8015
@notoriousotaran8015 2 жыл бұрын
@@jormungandr4690 If you checked using Steam charts thats not an accurate count. BDO has its own launcher and is on consoles
@notoriousotaran8015
@notoriousotaran8015 2 жыл бұрын
BDO is still alive and working well. Tons of people play it, certainly enough to keep the game afloat. It's regularly updated. It makes a bunch of money. Is it WoW or FFXIV? No. But like I said, you don't need to be the best MMO to be a successful one. I dunno why the MMO playerbase holds everything to XIV and WoW standards
@fedesotilpazzo91
@fedesotilpazzo91 2 жыл бұрын
the blessing thing its the crystalline aura the 30 day subs
@BunchOfShmucks
@BunchOfShmucks 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of copium ark players are on is insane lol.
@BunchOfShmucks
@BunchOfShmucks 2 жыл бұрын
@@shimik11 80 isn’t the end game my dude. It’s a skip you can buy to current content.
@GespenstMorder
@GespenstMorder 2 жыл бұрын
LOL the skip gives you one char in one class to lvl 80, doesn't give you BiS shit, lvl 90 is the endgame and crafted gear is entry lvl for all content, you need to farm tokens to get your gear ye' old way + drops from doing the actual content. 14 players do have copium but skipping ain't one.
@victorvinegar7116
@victorvinegar7116 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking FF14's and LA's microtransactions are even remotely close. Fucking hilarious
@neckbeardo1233
@neckbeardo1233 2 жыл бұрын
@@victorvinegar7116 Hahahahaa XDD It's so insane man these players are DELUDED.
@Pompadourius
@Pompadourius 2 жыл бұрын
@@shimik11 This guy thinks level 80 BiS is relevant beyond level 86. LMAO
@Eas_the_Planeswalker
@Eas_the_Planeswalker 2 жыл бұрын
Must agree on the language localisation. Read all quests and there are so many spelling errors, bad translation and some times even parts of a sentence missing. Not quite at par with the rest of the production value. Just my 2 cents 🙂
@synergistex7088
@synergistex7088 2 жыл бұрын
Crossfire was later release after cod with special forces. It was a hit before last 2k's, specially here in the Philippines. I think it's normal u never heard of it xeno hehe. We mmorpg fans afterall haha
@sigil3d
@sigil3d 2 жыл бұрын
more react content, its what i live for MADGE
@jinpalermo
@jinpalermo 2 жыл бұрын
dingdong question time!
@UnitMiaExe
@UnitMiaExe 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad I Uninstall this shit, I rather have fun playing a videogame and not having a second work, lmoa, typical Korean MMO BS.
@gregariousgaming9787
@gregariousgaming9787 2 жыл бұрын
Buying the gear with an extra step lmao
@Elephantmoonlight
@Elephantmoonlight 2 жыл бұрын
There is a cap +20 in NA, but that just gate keeps content. Its pay to skip just like FF14. There is benefit to raiding and pvp is equalized
@palladiumbang4442
@palladiumbang4442 2 жыл бұрын
is it pay to skip, but in FFXIV you pay 20$ to skip, in Lost ark you pay 100k $ to skip :))
@shiraloli
@shiraloli 2 жыл бұрын
you're a bystander, so off to the moon you go XD legendary
@Darksh1n
@Darksh1n 2 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt mind more grind content in FFXIV, you basicly just login once per week finish your raid then log out
@AngelMercury
@AngelMercury 2 жыл бұрын
That's usually Relic grind. Should be in a coming patch. You can do older ones for glams if you haven't done them already.
@dsd2dsd2
@dsd2dsd2 2 жыл бұрын
well firstable you cant max out it to 25+ with lengendary. and also people who usually do this is their alt. specially when new class comes out. they save up for new class that is coming out. gold and mats everything. and send everything to it when it comes out. then sure you could do abrelshud in 1 day. although If you have other people who are willing to take you without tier set
@alexreiz6128
@alexreiz6128 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, even before this video i thought about skip LostArk, but after seeing those typical Korean “Upgrade mechanics”(Swiping bank card mechanics) im certain in my decision. I don’t need second/third work. Some people make argument that’s “It’s generally p2w but fun is free” guess don’t interested in minmaxing and completionslism, having big monetisation influence for project without subscription is one thing, but being not able max out your character for current content without swiping your card is completely another shit. And like, it’s Korean game, you need to donate fuckton of money if you want it. Strictly speaking, imho , such projects are manipulative shit that need to be thrown in dumpster.
@Osmani4you
@Osmani4you 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUnderJaker its pay to win simple you're just moving goal posts but you are also right that its not pay to win so in the end who cares
@DraodVideos
@DraodVideos 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUnderJaker Ok but the lottery has a small chance to give you a real tangible thing called. MONEY. And money is generally agreed upon to be more useful then. "pay for CONVIENCE" AKA. Pay to Win. Same shit -_-.
@chirohisuke7800
@chirohisuke7800 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUnderJaker high on copium. average lost ark player. KEKW
@rafacastillo9611
@rafacastillo9611 Жыл бұрын
The most surprising thing is finding out that he played MGS4 Did he ever play revengeance?
@Bafka2
@Bafka2 2 жыл бұрын
Lost Ark is paid to win, the reason Koreans like it relative to other Korean games is because the game developers are more willing to communicate with the users. But as a person who has played in the Korean servers, I think that you will need at least a week to get to the final end of the game.
@SuperSlashLesPaul
@SuperSlashLesPaul 2 жыл бұрын
i think it's more a pay to fast. P2W for me is when u are in a PvP game, their is no ladder or rank in Lost Ark PvE, so u win nothing instead 100% the game. And the PvP is equalized. So no P2W.
@Bafka2
@Bafka2 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, if your perspective if pvp is the main focus, then you are right. I also believe the game is quite fair and most of the things are achievable. The reason I said Lost Ark is apid to win is because you can't ignore the advantage you can get from people prefereing you more in parties to go to raids. Other than that I don't think Lost Ark is paid to win. And yes you can achieve that level of power through investment of time but it will be extremely difficult to keep up with the pace to those who invest money into the game. I don't feel the need to hurry so to me Lost Ark is paid to win, but the fact that the game has microtransactions can make it paid to win for others.
@jonahrice6762
@jonahrice6762 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bafka2 P2W is such a loosely used terms that it has lost it's true definition it's a buzzword people throw around when they don't like microtransactions in a game.
@StuninRub
@StuninRub 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSlashLesPaul You have no idea. When the plus 25 guy is tanking all of your hits while you are hard stuck in plus 15.
@Bafka2
@Bafka2 2 жыл бұрын
@@StuninRub man plus 25... geez
@AnvilMAn603
@AnvilMAn603 2 жыл бұрын
6:15 to be fair to steam: the company actively bans people for no reason if they make a steam account
@me-A2B
@me-A2B 2 жыл бұрын
What even the point playing the game anymore if you can just pay the hell out to the end, why even you playing....
@NecroViolator
@NecroViolator 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with Lost Ark is that its SO REPETIVE on every damn map. Same crap over and over again . The you have to PAY real money to "upgrade armor/weapons" which is P2W ! Gold is by paying real money or selling some things online. Like Guild Wars 2 The loot you find is total sh!t. You only get max 2 different swords or staffs. BS... Nothing like "Dungeon Siege 1/2" which is massive amount of armor/weapons to chose from.
@LegendaryBrandon1
@LegendaryBrandon1 2 жыл бұрын
You have to pay real money to boost in every other mmo what’s the difference?
@NecroViolator
@NecroViolator 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegendaryBrandon1 No you dont. GW2 if you "buy" the Addons you get to go all the way up to max without paying. You can farm all you want to get what you need. You also get a "free" booster to LvL80. You only pay for the Addons and everything else is free. NOT you have to pay real money to pimp your weapons just to continue the game like Lost Ark.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth
@Kalimdor199Menegroth 2 жыл бұрын
@@NecroViolator The LA experience in NA/EU is 3 times harder in order to incentivize spending. Amazon intentionally allowed nerfs of gold generation, honing material generation as well as honing success rate. Part of these came with the game client from Korea, but Korea approached things differently. When they nerfed gold generation, they introduced extra ways of obtaining honing mats and increased honing rates, from lowest 10% that we have now in NA/EU between item level 1365 to 1370 to 30%, and from lowest 15 that NA/EU has now to 35% in KR between 1350 to 1365. We got all the nerfs + missing content in T3 without the compensation KR received when the nerfs were made. In addition, various content that in RU/KR/JP is available between gear score 1325 to 1355 has been moved to gear score 1340 and 1370. That is why we have this content void between 1340 to 1370. This was made to incentivize spending.
@Nijuka87
@Nijuka87 2 жыл бұрын
Those numbers are never acceptable. That’s specifically for that gear that if the game updates healthily, will be replaced with next content patch which you’ll then have to start all over. That is specifically why games like those never find success. Its dishonest behavior attempting to entrap your attention for all the wrong reasons.
@Martician
@Martician Жыл бұрын
Oh damn, crossfire that brings back memories. Wasnt that good, but for a f2p fps it was fine. (still mainly played WarRock at the time tho)
@zanagi
@zanagi 2 жыл бұрын
30:51 LOL
@unfinest
@unfinest 2 жыл бұрын
This video is bonkers!! 🤣🤣🤣 DF for president!
@aTypicalMushroom
@aTypicalMushroom 2 жыл бұрын
As funny as this video is, he gets a lot wrong.
@josephkim9974
@josephkim9974 2 жыл бұрын
OMEGALUL on those diamond costs. Can't be me, I ain't gonna be playing LostArk.
@maxmustermann3938
@maxmustermann3938 2 жыл бұрын
Yea people always mention the cap on the gear but they forget you can straight up buy consumables and if you spend enough moneez you can just keep using the best and highest grade shit to make things easier for you without a care in the world, no need to try and spend time farming for them with all the restrictions and bullshit they put on farming and crafting.
@lilfuzzballa
@lilfuzzballa 2 жыл бұрын
@4:12 Just for the people that don't understand why some people DONT think Lost Ark is Pay to Win, it is because it's games like Corssfire why the term "Pay to Win" even exists. Way before Lost Ark or even Warframe was a thing, games like Crossfire, Combat Arms, and even the early days of World of Tanks gave players the ability to purchase premium items that gave players a power advantage in a PVP game. Key word there is PVP. It's an entirely more dangerous thing than someone rushing progression with real money. You could buy golden ammo in World of tanks to straight up have bonus damage against players and games like Combat Arms/Crossfire had premium shops where the best gear and weapons in the game could only be obtained with real money. THAT is the definition of LITERALLY paying to win. And it's these games that made the video game community create the term P2W back in the day. The issue is that games like Lost ark and Warframe are different. You are technically paying to progress (which obviously comes with its own issues, there's no denying that) but someone paying for items in Lost Ark is not causing harm to someone else's experience. But in Crossfire, you sure as hell are hurting everyone else by decking yourself out in exclusive OP gear that free players have to just deal with. These games have always been called Pay to Win and still will always be. But we really need to educate ourselves on the difference between a game like Lost Ark and Crossfire. Very different games when it comes to the advantages you get for paying. And when a bunch of gamers say "Lost Ark is Pay to Win," please understand why people disagree with you. Because that term already existed for games like Crossfire, and it is absolutely not as cancerous as Lost Ark. That's why I will always continue to call Warframe and Lost Ark Pay to Progress. And if you've seen CohhCarnage's infamous "thoughts on Lost Ark" video, hopefully you understand why he calls these games Pay to Progress as well. There's a huge key difference between games like Crossfire and games like Lost Ark. And that's why people feel there needs to be 2 different definitions.
@Necrostrike
@Necrostrike 2 жыл бұрын
It's doomed to decline for the simple reason that greedy ass game binds skins to a single character in a single server, and mounts to a single server roster of characters. It cannot be carried over! No account bound!
@sunbark4927
@sunbark4927 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy skins with gold though... And they're quite cheap.
@yangnator7168
@yangnator7168 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunbark4927 gold is a limited resource for F2P, plus it's one of the resources you use to upgrade gear, so if you use it to buy a mount/skins, bye bye upgrade or vice versa.
@Irisfantasies
@Irisfantasies 2 жыл бұрын
@@yangnator7168 "limited" honestly its so easy to farm gold and upgrading gear you dont even need to go past +15. skins are freaking cheap on the auction house the only ones that will cost more are the ones just released but that'll only last for about a week or 2 once they drop down to cheap prices
@sunbark4927
@sunbark4927 2 жыл бұрын
@@yangnator7168 Gold is not so limited that you can't spend 50 to expedite your strongold progression if you wanted to. later in the game you can sell accessories and engravings for upwards of 100k gold. 50 gold is absolutely nothing.
@legalizemarinara
@legalizemarinara 2 жыл бұрын
few mounts in ffxiv are account wide and most glams are character-locked. there are definitely valid criticisms to be made against lost ark but i don’t think this is one of them.
@joaquin5028
@joaquin5028 2 жыл бұрын
I played for 15 minutes and I got MU online war flashbacks. Haven't played that shit in 15 years and won't be any time soon
@cahns5025
@cahns5025 2 жыл бұрын
lol why not write the year first?
@DayaranPlays
@DayaranPlays 2 жыл бұрын
02/06/22 is WRONG also. The international date format is the only logical choice. The universally accepted time format is HOURS:MINUTES:SECONDS. So why isnt YYYY/MM/DD? They both conform to the rule of most significant to least significant, allowing people to read left to right which most of us are already conditioned to do, and eliminating potential misunderstandings due to different date formats.
@stetsonsouder9512
@stetsonsouder9512 2 жыл бұрын
It's true, no good MMORPGs exist anymore.
@adamosborne9440
@adamosborne9440 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, kMMOs... RO was my first journey in the genre around 2002ish... getting 10% exp per hour on a Vit Swordsman at level 50ish in Mjolnir 1 trying to grind out those last job levels to class change to Knight was a terror I went through at least 3 times... .... then the REAL grind started.
@Irisfantasies
@Irisfantasies 2 жыл бұрын
lol @rebirth classes
@Altiex
@Altiex 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a massive mood, probably the biggest reason I moved away from the official servers and mostly played on private ones. The game was amazing and grinding isn't that bad, but 1x rates were just pain.
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 жыл бұрын
I went AGI swordsman and did it with golems and some pots for those last levels.
@siyar8300
@siyar8300 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember the days of trying to upggrade my gear to the meta of +7, farming 0.01% card drops for sub stats and then just losing my mind at all the times I failed the +6 upgrade and sent back to the farm mines
@Kyle81290
@Kyle81290 2 жыл бұрын
Private servers with x5 or x7 were the only way to play RO.
@jakegibson1676
@jakegibson1676 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are so right look at it failing already ... Oh wait it's crushing it and PvP is balanced gears
@Decoy22x
@Decoy22x 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wait, what happen now. Losing 10k players each week.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth
@Kalimdor199Menegroth 2 жыл бұрын
From 1.3 mil players to 300k in 2 months. It is losing roughly 5-10k players every weak. As for PvP having balanced gears, as commendable as that may be, it ultimately made gaming experience for several classes shittier, as equalizing the pvp experience gives advantage to some classes over others, mainly support classes. Trying PvPing with Paladin/Bard. Good luck with that.
@MrXAznDude
@MrXAznDude 10 ай бұрын
Talk about comments that aged POORLY. The game is on life support at this point.
@Rytom
@Rytom 2 жыл бұрын
Nah DFO is insane, but it's grindy as fuck, that's why it's not popular here. Also Specific launcher
@allunsa
@allunsa 2 жыл бұрын
been telling my friends im not playin lost ark bc i just dont want to invest my time into a p2w game model and they actin like im crazy. just wana invest my time in a game that i can enjoy without hitting that wall :/
@17miamor
@17miamor 2 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to take seriously people who proclaim something out of their very little or no experience at all in the game. It is as if commenting gives them an adrenaline rush. LMAO!
@allunsa
@allunsa 2 жыл бұрын
@Raul Yeah I know what im going into when im gonna pick up an mmo. Alot of grind and alot of hours. I wana make sure my enjoyment in a game wont get cut off because I cant whale out money. If I was a casual player it'd probably be fine but honestly im a sweat and like achieving endgame content in any game i play. Also half of them already quit kekw
@allunsa
@allunsa 2 жыл бұрын
@@17miamor damn i didnt know i couldnt have an opinion on p2w game models as a broke student who wouldnt be able to afford anything. i never said the game is bad, i just said i cant invest my time into p2w models just to quit eventually. id rather take those hours and grind something else.
@Taylor_Lindise
@Taylor_Lindise 2 жыл бұрын
Military and universal standard is Day, month, year.
@Camp2Kill
@Camp2Kill 2 жыл бұрын
people are misinforming you in your chat sooooo badly. I feel you cultivate a group of hater who will shit on games you look at. Feel sorry for you dude hope you get a better viewer base. This game is very well done and no other game goes into the depth and detail and actual fun content in a F2P MMO, countless end game streamer are F2P and have no issue the game is not a rush its a marathon and you just take it day by day and you can do anything others can
@ASH-dj8mv
@ASH-dj8mv 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Freedom-kl8rt
@Freedom-kl8rt Жыл бұрын
Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jeffbatista
@jeffbatista 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy this video 😂
@gh1374
@gh1374 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh. dunno about other countries but in Commonwealth countries (England/Aus/NZ), it's day/month/year for date formats lol
@dale7326
@dale7326 2 жыл бұрын
Playing LA to Test of Your Brain Reflexes!!
@ringthatkill
@ringthatkill 2 жыл бұрын
Does everyone miss that this is the game in other regions lol
@petertrueteller8043
@petertrueteller8043 2 жыл бұрын
What is quite bad is fact that most of these island quests are super boring. For example there is island where you teach some bird to fly... in the end you must run around island in circle like 10 times... most of "game experience" is talk with NPC (spam button G) only so he send you to next NPC (more spam of button G), eventually it will send you to next island where you repeat same g button spamming... in the end of such "quest" you come back to NPC who give you as reward some chest with material... Right now there are people who want skip boring quests (game content) so they just pay money and buy material from cash shop. So in the end 90% of gameplay is boring af.
@Thatconceitedass
@Thatconceitedass 2 жыл бұрын
The games not bad overall. I don't get why everyone wants to be able to finish content in a week. Who cares if it takes a year to i max stats and all that crap? I mean gives you more play time in the game instead of hitting and beatting everything in a week and then spending 6 months looking for a new game to rush and "win".. They're MMO its not supposed to be quick.
@shl6367
@shl6367 2 жыл бұрын
I want to be called a comrade as well
@ethirius3255
@ethirius3255 2 жыл бұрын
Hes skipping on the part where you can buy the mats with gold which you can farm hefty amounts of but yeah if you swipe you win faster if skipping the game and runnibg out of things to do is winning lol
@dra6o0n
@dra6o0n 2 жыл бұрын
Gamers in the old 'terms' are not even in the double digits in population today, 'Gamers' as defined by businesses and corporations, involving anyone who plays 'any' games for 'any' period of times, are everywhere. You might see 250,000 players in one game on Steam, but that's tiny versus millions in a country, and billions in the world? Population of USA alone is 330 millions give or take some numbers... So 'gamers' (or no-lifers in this case) are a scarce commodity that these publishers don't give a damn about.
@cg_sidd1745
@cg_sidd1745 2 жыл бұрын
People taking the term "pay 2 win" literally is funny. We get it, Lost Ark doesn't need it to be maxed out to clear the content. You don't have to pay money to achieve enough to play the game. That's not the problem. The problem is the game artificially slows progress in order to push their pay system. Example: quest requires you to make 3 potions with your stronghold. However, you need to upgrade your workshop to lvl 2 to make that potion. It takes 12hrs to upgrade the workshop. That's the problem. A trivial quest takes 12hrs to complete.
@sunbark4927
@sunbark4927 2 жыл бұрын
Final fantasy 14 artificially makes the story last forever so people buy story skips.
@cg_sidd1745
@cg_sidd1745 2 жыл бұрын
@Phoenix C it's a story mmorpg . . . And you can skip cutscenes without buying a skip. I can't skip 12hr wait to upgrade workshop without paying.
@oj_furrylover8484
@oj_furrylover8484 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why this comment remind me of clash of clans
@cg_sidd1745
@cg_sidd1745 2 жыл бұрын
@OJ_FurryLover I never got into it, but I've played similar mobile games. It's the same concept. Stronghold acts like a mobile game and upgrading cost resources and takes lots of real hours to wait for it. However, if you act now you can use these crystals to instantly upgrade. Out of crystals? No worries, you can buy it in our cash shop.
@sunbark4927
@sunbark4927 2 жыл бұрын
You can't skip all the cutscenes, mainly the ones that take the longest to get through and even if you could skip them the story is still unreasonably long for what it's telling.
@Str8reapin
@Str8reapin 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I didn't go to the loophole of all these videos I am honestly enjoying the game alot. But I will say it's P2w tho and your videos are always amusing.
@anti-macro
@anti-macro 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with enjoying it - though you might want to be careful if you have an addictive personality as those microtransaction baits catch a lot of people unawares, and keeps them spending money after that due to sunk cost. Otherwise just play it until it stops being enjoyable without spending money, and you'll have gotten a bunch of hours of entertainment for free
@musicaddict9058
@musicaddict9058 2 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to the russian ape, zeghart and other haters and mmo tribalists. Lost ark is not p2w. As a matter of fact, in korea there are f2p players in top500 players. One of the top korean f2p streamers has stated that whales constantly get kicked out of the parties in harder raids, cuz money can't buy skill in this game, and pvp has equalized gear. So there is basically nothing to win. Our version also got a massive improvements over russian and korean server, further invalidating what the russian ape said. And also, his video was debunked by korean players when it comes to damage difference, by using a damage formula that this russian guy apparently doesn't even know. There are already 1350+ ilvl f2p players on our version too, so it defeats any argument russian ape made.
@musicaddict9058
@musicaddict9058 2 жыл бұрын
@SloshyPants Cope more kid. The first group that cleared current hardest raid in korea were f2p players. Pay to win implies you are winning something. What do they win if they can't even beat f2p players to first clears in new raids ? Literally nothing. Cope.
@gigasx
@gigasx 2 жыл бұрын
So you can pay and NOT play the entire game, seems good.
@ploofii
@ploofii 2 жыл бұрын
No you pay to play the game, all you're doing is paying to skip the boring ass story with terrible writing, months of repetitive grinding on alts and your main. You get to pay and play in the endgame raids, die a lot and just have fun.
@r3sid3nt3vil8
@r3sid3nt3vil8 2 жыл бұрын
Best Xenos is 1:17 Xenos
@shl6367
@shl6367 2 жыл бұрын
I cried hearing the DnF music
@lwicho
@lwicho 2 жыл бұрын
Xeems! XenoPeepo
@xd3m0nxx25
@xd3m0nxx25 2 жыл бұрын
Been saying this
@jopet216
@jopet216 2 жыл бұрын
37:40 is my exact thought on the gearing system in this game!!!
@fedesotilpazzo91
@fedesotilpazzo91 2 жыл бұрын
if u are like 1520 item level on your main and yes there are ppls on eu that has already that item level and you make an alt your alt start over from 302 item level and yes u need a certain item level to clear content so uhm yeah good luck saying uh it easy just make more alt uhm not really
@Superfluous.
@Superfluous. 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand, or maybe my experience with MMO's is vastly different from everyone else. I paid for a founder's pack and I don't regret doing it. I have never bought anything from Mari's shop, still have ALL my yellow crystals, never lacked any gold and never lacked any blue crystals either for slot expansions, ship skin, skin set for virtues, a cool mount and a nice pet. I don't give a shit if people throw money at the game to gear themselves faster and unlock new content faster than anyone else. I'll play the game at my own pace. I'm ok with trying to beat sea of indolence 50 times before I actually succeed. I was ok in dieing against tytalos 30 times before actually killing it. I am ok with completing tomes. There's no fucking shot I'll ever even succeed in the completing the hard raids because I'm not gonna sweat myself into memorizing 30 different attacks and 4 wipe mechanics, all the while having to deal with stagger and weak point damage checks. Just let people throw money at it, the impact they have on YOUR gameplay is minimum at best since they all raid in their elitistic guilds, with boosted discords and ranks like it's the fucking military. Boohoo, someone paid and completed a raid before we did. The disgrace. The chaos. The end of the fucking world!
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 2 жыл бұрын
Call of Duty is the only shooter franchise that releases yearly and even they are seeing the repercussions of that now. You can't compare Counter-Strike to that. Counter-Strike is one game that is updated ad infinitum. Games like Halo and doom release once every like 5 years if even
@hatemsaad3451
@hatemsaad3451 2 жыл бұрын
Rest assured xeno it will fail like all p2w trash korean games (Tera, Aion, etc)
@arohk4415
@arohk4415 2 жыл бұрын
The korean game devs have full control over all game mechanics. The publisher can do very little beside game master services. They can make suggestions to korea to change stuff but not do anything them self. Played blade and soul for a good two years and this is very similar.
@Chaosloki
@Chaosloki 2 жыл бұрын
So they're ok with giving all control with game mechanics over to korean devs but took a hard stance and spent as much resources as possible to claim the ability to censor panties and booba. Amazon definitely got their priorities straight.
@itsprivate3061
@itsprivate3061 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly dont remember a single thing the russian guy said in the entire video
@linkshellvendor
@linkshellvendor 2 жыл бұрын
aight, that's a hard pass for me. I don't like having my time wasted so wont even bother downloading.
@MrChico212
@MrChico212 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the video is very very misleading. Under 200 people in KR have full +25 gear, because it's absurd. You can clear all content available in the game with +15 on your gear, which requires $0 spent, just gotta run content and hit the upgrade button. That's not to say this game doesn't have pay2progress/win, it does, but you don't NEED to be +25 in order to do anything, it's just there for whales to flex their wallet and still be trash at the game.
@neckbeardo1233
@neckbeardo1233 2 жыл бұрын
ur one based weeb. grats first time i say these words.
@tzengi372
@tzengi372 2 жыл бұрын
"Kind of looks like weeb Valkyrie Profile"....so just Valkyrie Profile lmao
@Taijiutsu
@Taijiutsu 2 жыл бұрын
Bro to me its just another arpg. im gonna lvl up solo self found it and dip when I get bored. just like diablo just like POE...
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