Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992

Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992 - GM Ben Finegold

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Grandmaster Ben Finegold presents a lecture at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis on understanding strategic ideas and small advantages. He looks at a 1992 game between GM Anatoly Karpov and GM Gata Kamsky.
2013.06.20

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@BrezHurley 8 жыл бұрын

Don't castle into checkmate unless you are playing me. ~Ben Finegld

@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the Tal Memorial is named after Mr. Memorial.

@ikinoktace1280 4 жыл бұрын

People discredit Mr. Memorial too much nowadays

@joeljose182 3 жыл бұрын

Named before*

@michaellhoover94 3 жыл бұрын

Show the proper respect!! That's Grandmaster Memorial!!!!

@otakurocklee 2 жыл бұрын

Yes because Mr. Memories was really tall.

@re4072 7 жыл бұрын

"What did Kamsky do to stop mate?" "resign"

@Nic_DM 5 жыл бұрын

Very suspicious move on his part.

@dominikernst77 3 жыл бұрын

the truth hurts

@mortadahasaad530 3 жыл бұрын

Terrible

@diegogarcia4255 3 жыл бұрын

Cried like a Grandmaster

@wizardseye 10 жыл бұрын

His lectures are even funnier in person. He tends to give those in the room a hard time which is hilarious when you know everyone he's talking about.

@orangebetsy Жыл бұрын

haha awesome. i can't stop laughing when he breaks the 4th wall with those hilarious looks.

@johngreco8498 9 жыл бұрын

This guy is wayyyy funnier than his class gave him credit for. I would have been laughing too hard if I was in the class haha

@WalyB01 6 жыл бұрын

The knight might go there later.....

@gregoroque 5 жыл бұрын

"That makes our bishop not happy" - cracked me up

@joseruiz844 5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. He is very funny indeed!

@ronclass1782 5 жыл бұрын

I figured that out in less than a minute

@msDanielp369 4 жыл бұрын

He's the coolest GM ever!! I dare you name a cooler one

@herzwatithink9289 9 жыл бұрын

My favourite player, Anatoly Karpov, covered by my favourite analyst, Ben Finegold. Doesn't get any better!

@user-tc6bx1wy4m 7 жыл бұрын

عتردحس

@1rauno 7 жыл бұрын

"Mate is good, because then you win!"

@user-hx4ur5mw9c 5 жыл бұрын

;0 в

@German1184 3 жыл бұрын

I am taking notes lol

@mrtampham 6 жыл бұрын

Strategic ideas are soooo good. When he owned the f file and then went back to control the c file. I would have 100% pushed my kingside pawns and sacrifice something to break open the king. This teaches me so much about positioning, preventing opponent's good moves, and patience.

@jpg6296 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, though I prefer the wizardry of Tal, I agree with you, we must first learn strategy and solid positional play before we can have a basis for other styles.

@buttkrustable 9 жыл бұрын

not only did i learn a lot from this but this guy was funny as hell. i need to see more of him.

@JamieTransNyc 3 жыл бұрын

You will be lucky in that regard, there is a lot of Ben Finegold to see.... at least 280lbs.

@EVANGELOSS54 5 жыл бұрын

Finegold is possibly the best chess commentator in the world ... I would love it if he did some A0 vs Stockfish games analysis

@aliveli-hq6zk 8 жыл бұрын

"When you play Nc2, it is really hard to play Rc2."

@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 4 жыл бұрын

Just promote the knight idiot. Frankly ridiculous

@Pain420 3 жыл бұрын

Ben is big brain

@Kaanfight 3 жыл бұрын

Terrible

@hplovecraftmacncheese 8 жыл бұрын

I keep coming back to these vids for the jokes.

@mitchellhodgemeyer 7 жыл бұрын

This is my favourite of Ben's lectures (although the Paul Morphy ones are awesome too).

@rafaelgmota 7 жыл бұрын

Typical Morphy opponent... Terrible! xD

@spartnstarcraft2 9 жыл бұрын

this class under appreciates his humor so much. Great analysis in tandem with the jokes always make his lectures the easiest to follow and retain the information. Plz more of Ben.

@stopit405 3 жыл бұрын

His one-liners are so great. I enjoy them every single time.

@boschmidt7824 10 жыл бұрын

Amazing lecture, explaining with humor the ideas behind every move. Simply great.

@joseluisparreno4999 7 жыл бұрын

One of the best videos by Ben Finegold.

@LexFloyd 8 жыл бұрын

I really felt the pressure to answer at 36:22

@fisheatsyourhead 6 жыл бұрын

highschool flashbacks of not paying attention and being called for an answer

@thijsyo 5 жыл бұрын

The Tal Memorial, named after mister Memorial

@ivek7773 10 жыл бұрын

Man this guy just made my day

@walterparker2641 10 жыл бұрын

The most concise and instructional chess lecture I have encountered on KZfaq,

@iamnahidashrafuday 8 ай бұрын

These lectures are so helpful. His detailed explanations cooperate to understand middle game better!

@ss9392 3 жыл бұрын

My favourite game by far, Karpov's style really stands out to me

@Grandcapi 9 жыл бұрын

Very instructive and funny!! Ben is good for young players, he knows how to make them learn and laugh at the same time. It was the first time I watched him on youtube and loved it.

@rgsliwa8298 6 жыл бұрын

A very good lesson by big Ben Finegold. Health is wealth so you can keep teaching.

@iehudim 10 жыл бұрын

thank you for this precious videos

@petersodhi1762 7 жыл бұрын

Superb analysis and presentation

@bhuvanc4992 10 жыл бұрын

As entertaining as instructive...awesome video!

@toastersman217 10 жыл бұрын

A very instructive video! Thank you!

@Chris-if1di 7 жыл бұрын

Took 78 seconds for him to mention Paul Morphy xD I love it!

@Freddy-xx3uf 7 жыл бұрын

also known as 1min18

@fireballxl-5748 3 жыл бұрын

Nice catch!

@Crazeyfor67 10 жыл бұрын

Ben always makes chess fun. I surely missed his coverage at this years U.S. Championship. Yasser did a good job,,but the chemistry of Ben & Jen was superb. Watching their coverage last year made me jump up and drive to St.Louis (from Louisville) to experience the show live. Some of the post game interviews by Maurice Ashley were a bit cheesy and the excitement wasn't there. It all seemed contrived and slightly forced. Ben's coverage is easy and natural. Thanks for the lecture SLT CC

@joseruiz844 5 жыл бұрын

You make these explanations really enjoyable and vivid. Thanks a lot Ben!

@Tobias-fe2hm 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for uploading

@MyRook 10 жыл бұрын

Great example showing how space advantage gives you all the options(attack and defense).Great piece coordination.

@myriadwhims 10 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this lecture! Thanks!

@sleepyeyeguy 9 жыл бұрын

Instructive lecture, thanks a lot!

@dangelobenjamin 10 жыл бұрын

Both, it's awesome. You learn a lot from Ben!

@mottian 8 жыл бұрын

5:56 "That's something that we should probably talk about for an hour because I get paid by the hour" :D

@followingtheroe1952 8 жыл бұрын

+Martino Garonzi Sounds like something a "Finegold" would say.

@itrofimow 8 жыл бұрын

+Myrdred Deceiver its just what he said

@Uerdue 4 жыл бұрын

3:44 Of course we've heard of him! He's a famous f***ing legend!

@samsadax230 3 ай бұрын

Karpov's positional skills are unmatched.

@mathewmgmg 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent lecture sir...watched it twice!! One of the best lecturers here along with Yasser Seirawan

@dusanmijatovic7913 7 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@craig7102 9 жыл бұрын

thanks you gave me some idea's hadn't thought of

@tarzanhedgepeth354 8 жыл бұрын

I actually like this game as much as the Fischer-Spassky 1972 game 6. It really revealed a lot about positional playing and also showed the wisdom of both players. Even in championship games, it's not easy to see how the loser was playing very well usually (it always looks so easy watching, though, doesn't it...?)

@tze-weilim1632 8 жыл бұрын

I like GM Finegold. He's really funny here.

@johnmichael642 5 жыл бұрын

wow the best chess channel i have ever seen O_O

@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын

Watching this in 2018, I find his humor smirkable at most then I remember they're usually kids/teens then I laugh my ass off!

@orlandorodriguez1291 6 жыл бұрын

Hilarious, not that im insulting you 😂😂

@JamesJones-oq7hy 9 жыл бұрын

your lectures are awesome

@Dybbouk 2 жыл бұрын

Great game. Great explanation.

@xhemalvezi3999 5 жыл бұрын

It's impossibile to get bored with him. I would pay a lot of money just to follow one of his lessons.

@TexasSizzle 10 жыл бұрын

Awesome lecture Ben! Also very funny!

@johnhechtlinger9465 5 жыл бұрын

nice lecture....that Karpov game was impressive....

@oshanmodi 10 жыл бұрын

I am your fan.. Ben Finegold.. very helpful illustrations...

@Samuel-cu9vo 4 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that someone was shocked about the knight going to a8 at 17:40

@fireballxl-5748 Жыл бұрын

Karpov, a very interesting game. Finegold, a very interesting player & commentator

@daveanthony3880 7 жыл бұрын

FINEGOLD IS A CHESS GOD

@stanleygsf 10 жыл бұрын

Yaay! Fun lecture!

@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын

That's a valuable lesson that I learned after being swiftly crushed by a 2200. It's not sufficient to just do what you want to do, but to proactively prevent your opponent's plan. My rating has since improved dramatically!

@tharkanzox1493 7 жыл бұрын

We need ben finegold back

@anasbouayad6826 6 жыл бұрын

Karpov's gameplay is really magnificent

@gmcenroe 9 жыл бұрын

really nice lecture and funny at the same time

@Inbal_Feuchtwanger 10 жыл бұрын

This is just awesome

@sooooooooDark 2 жыл бұрын

43:43 man id be really curious what the thought process is behind pushing (/sacrificing) the pawns the specific way white does there very hard for non titled players to understand 😢

@GymChess 10 жыл бұрын

Nice lecture and nice guy.

@maelstrom57 10 жыл бұрын

more from Ben!

@thetransferaccount4586 5 ай бұрын

nice lecture

@joshuahunter7972 4 жыл бұрын

Is that a new touch screen? Bens stepping up in the world.

@hiwibaba22 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!

@logansoileau8238 3 жыл бұрын

The St. Louis chess club is found is in the city of Club.

@BravingTheOutDoors 10 жыл бұрын

what an incredible game

@BizuteriaMoxie 4 жыл бұрын

I like his videos

@sleepyeyeguy 10 жыл бұрын

"That's something we should talk about for an hour... because I get paid by the hour... right?" friggin hilarious!

@orangebetsy Жыл бұрын

The quote that sums it all up for me: "Karpov likes different things than I do"

@manictiger 7 жыл бұрын

Did you know this isn't even Karpov's final form? Later on, he fuses with IBM's 'Deep Blue' to become Deep Karpov, during the second 1997 match against Kasparov.

@arsenalfanrichi 7 жыл бұрын

I swear Karpov was a computer.

@LuisManuelLealDias 5 жыл бұрын

jesus christ, deep blue was as much of an anti-karpov as possible.

@youngadultsuis 10 жыл бұрын

Ben Finegold for president!!!!

@Crazeyfor67 10 жыл бұрын

Actually I haven't watched it all yet. But I will keep your remark about Kamsky's mistakes in mind while viewing.

@TheConcentrationmoon 8 жыл бұрын

i dont understand why some portions are edited. Its suspicious!!

@illmaculatechess 10 жыл бұрын

i watched this lecture super blazed laughed my ass off

@ThePawn-xi3zb 5 жыл бұрын

14:08 He glued the pieces into the board.

@stateofmontanapal.2506 4 жыл бұрын

Great!

@tims7174 7 жыл бұрын

That picture in the beginning though....

@kingcarisma 8 жыл бұрын

Finegolds jokes are very suspicious...but his teaching is not...Cudos..

@federicogarcia4446 8 жыл бұрын

+kingcarisma oh thats not true, his jokes part from a premise equal or boring and then slowy improve to a better and winning punch line, he's jokes are solid.

@kingcarisma 8 жыл бұрын

Your`e correct!

@adatta3046 7 жыл бұрын

His jokes are just terrible.

@Spiderhip 7 жыл бұрын

Why is his jokes are suspicious? You with the wrong answer.

@johnkom2339 6 жыл бұрын

His jokes are at your expense. Sarcasm but keeps the pace lively.

@nfltrrrqwsa7512 4 жыл бұрын

To me, Qc4 Rd4 is a much stronger move than bxc5 Rdd3, assuming the Krejcik Gambit holds in parallel with a subdivision 6.5 strategy in the end game scenario.

@suleimanshaaban6586 9 жыл бұрын

Very nice

@iMannyLP 4 жыл бұрын

34:47 why not qf3+ with followed checkmate qg3 or qh3??

@betuscb5707 9 жыл бұрын

buenas combinaciones estrategicas de ajedrez

@thomasrebotier1741 4 жыл бұрын

At 35:02, what is wrong with ... Q c3. It forces queen trade

@thorn35 5 жыл бұрын

Conrad Holt is a grandmaster born in Witchita Kansas.

@nubiankenpo 7 жыл бұрын

The "Don Rickles" of chess. A dry humor savant.

@sebastianquilt 7 жыл бұрын

Rickles was more jovial than this guy, whose attention span for humor is about 3 seconds, and who ought to partake in Impractical Jokers, finally, as Joe's fatter, smarter brother :) Great teacher, too.

@meenay2728 6 жыл бұрын

East or west Ben is the best

@RonakBadhe 6 жыл бұрын

Conrad Holt was born in Kansas @23:32

@harleykf1 4 жыл бұрын

Leela says that 20...Nc6 was a significant inaccuracy. Recommending (I kid you not)... Na8 instead (I'm guessing to prepare b5)

@harleykf1 4 жыл бұрын

I think 28... Qh4 was also a decent try for a draw. Fianchettoing the queen was possibly a mistake too. Honestly this game is a pain to analyse even with computers :P

@harleykf1 4 жыл бұрын

Ultimately though it was probably Nd8 and b5 that were too passive. Well specifically playing b5 first made a lot more sense.

@vincenozambli6485 10 жыл бұрын

Ottimo

@johnrainmcmanus6319 10 жыл бұрын

Bh6 immediately (instead of f6) leads to mate, I think.

@krippp 9 жыл бұрын

Bh6 is much worse, though White retains a bishop for 2 connected passed pawns. After Karpov's 49.f6+, his queen gets to f6 instead of g7, immediately ready to support a Bf3+. And if ..Kxh4, then also ready for Qf4#. It's mate in 9, because in that way Bf3 remains lethal. With 49.Bh6+, after the obvious 49..Kxh6 50.Qf8+ Bg7 51.g5+ Kh5 52.Qxg7, black would play 52..Qd3, and the Black queen blocks the 3rd rank from Kg3. Then, after the eventual Bf3+ with the White queen's support, Black's king can just take the pawn on h4 and avoid mate, having had plenty of time to bring his queen to e3, preventing Qf4#. So White would have to win some other way, and that game's gonna take a long time, giving drawing chances for Black.

@sleepyeyeguy 9 жыл бұрын

Go Dog Go! XD

@BabooVII 10 жыл бұрын

Great lecture. This guy is funny

@gregtaylor6146 5 жыл бұрын

Whoa there Ben.... you're a veggie? that's awesome man, good for you!!!

@SuperBono07 8 жыл бұрын

Hi, what is ''strategic position'' means?.

@pfsloan8230 10 жыл бұрын

...unless you're playing me...can't stop laughing...can't breathe...passing out. OK I may be exaggerating but Ben is a (Grand) master at making a point with such pointed humor one can't help but remember the lesson.

@MrBardun111 2 жыл бұрын

10:40 since black defended 2 times his pawn, why doesnt he move his other knight rather (d7)? that way he moves other pieces to develop instead same knigth 2 times. Sure ur bishop will be free now but like, ur other move hasnt moved yet and since we played pawn move to protecrt pawn, now we can play it without blockin our queen.

@blessedbethelord4835 7 жыл бұрын

isn't pawn h4-h6 at 33:29 mate? why did karpov check with the bishop? is their something im missing?

@DoomRater 7 жыл бұрын

Blessed betheLord h6 is illegal, because that pawn has already moved, notice how it's on h4 not h2. he'd have to play h5 first which is risky because after black takes, his King can run forward.

@DoomRater 7 жыл бұрын

Well actually h5 loses the Queen outright because there's no check stopping black from capturing it

@gowri75 6 жыл бұрын

nice!!

@josephschenkel8956 5 жыл бұрын

What is the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy' both in general and in the context of chess?

@daims8728 5 жыл бұрын

Joseph Schenkel to my level of understanding when we talk about tactics it’s short terms move strategy is more about mid-long term move

@josephschenkel8956 5 жыл бұрын

@@daims8728 Thanks!

@LuisManuelLealDias 5 жыл бұрын

@@josephschenkel8956 tactics are 3-6 move shorts that are kind of forced and calculated, usually to win pieces or to get to a different state in the board (short term but very precise). Strategy is your overall vague ideas about what you want to do in the board long term (long term but very vague)