If you need more information, I recommend checking out this new video by @GamersNexus on upgrading from a 2700x as it offers more comparisons between the different CPU's: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbGXd9WImq6Zl6M.htmlsi=GPaNM9MDOMYw8d8V

Thanks for making this video. I've been wondering about this since the 5800x3D came out.

The issue I have seen with IRacing is it’s more cpu bound then anything. Even with a 3080 it didn’t seem to upgrade in the fps department from my 2060. It might not be running at 100% but it still is limited by it so that’s why it’s a crazy increase

Thanks so much for this!!

dude your Papyrus shrine and love of iRacing is incredible. Great video man, keep it up!

Thanks for including rpcs3- you've convinced me to bite the bullet and upgrade my 3700x. Looking forward to pairing this with my new 6800xt gpu.

Thank you for this review, I have the 5800x3D and in iracing is a monster

Hi! Thank you for this video, I'm exactly in the same situation as you, playing mostly CPU-bound titles, having a RTX 3080 and R7 3700X but with a B550 board and 16GB of RAM. Your video is not the first I watched about the topic of upgrading to R7 5800X3D from Ryzen 3000 family but It definitely reassured me even more about the upgrade and whether it's worth the money.

Perfect video, I play similar games including iracing and motorstorm and was just thinking about upgrading from 3800x to 5800x3d lol. Thanks!

Good presentation! I arrived at similar conclusion, however went from a 3800x/2080 to a 5900x/4070ti. Should be good for a number of years..

I upgraded from a 3700X to the 5800X3d just last year. There was quite a jump in results. More than happy with the upgrade.

Hi, i need help with the nr2003, when i click "drive" my game just close and i cant play, someone can help me?

Pulled the trigger for a 5800x3D for $299.99 to replace my 3900x. Technically… yes it’s a “downgrade” in cores. But, I don’t really need the extra cores anymore, since most applications I use are mostly GPU anyway.

I just swapped my 3600X for the 5800X3D and saw a clear bump in frames in the CPU-heavy game I am currently binging (X4: Foundations.) Pretty sure this and the RTX 3070 will hold me over for at least 4-5 more years. I may keep an eye on higher end team red graphics cards in the meantime.

In which resolutuion did u do the benchmarks?

I switched from my 3800xt to a 5800x3d today. I use a rtx 3070ti gpu. I mainly play world of warcraft classic which is a single core 2004 engine. I went from 70-80fps in the main city dalaran to 140-170 fps with 5800x3d. Its all depending on which game you use, for me, this was a huuge upgrade for the buck. Seemingly MMO's especially love the cache!!

Thanks for the vid! Was looking if it's worth the upgrade for music production (requires high single core performance). Would you think this is the right upgrade (coming from a 3800x) or should I perhaps even look into getting the 5950x?

I NEEDED THIS

That iRacing gain is impressive. Maybe I will pull the trigger on an upgrade

Would it be good to buy a RTX 3060 12GB graphics card for R7_3800x for 1080p/1440p gaming? thanks for the answer. I have more points in CiNEBENCH 20 Single Core - 524 Multicore - 5006

Hi, Have you RX 6750 XT run with RX 3800X or not? If you have please review, thank you.

Thank you for including Iracing!!!!! It definitely is one of the most demanding and NO ONE includes it when comparing cpu or GPU’s.

This video has sold me on the upgrade (currently running the 3800X as well). As you said, can't predict the future but I think it's worth it.

Hey so I've been thinking about upgrading, I know this video isn't, but it helps with my current cpu situation. I have a 3800x with the stock cooler, an asrock b550 pro4, and an rx 5700 xt while playing at 1440p 120hz. Main games I play are Halo Infinite, Sea Of Thieves, Rainbow Six Siege, and indie games/emulation. In Halo for example, I can't exactly hit stable 120fps unless if I'm playing forge maps unless if my games looks like crap (for normal gameplay i play at 1080p with res scaling @ 120, no dynamic scaling though). Do you think I should upgrade up to a 5800x3d and a new motherboard or a new gpu, and would a motherboard swap not be needed (the vrms on this board are not great afaik, hence why I'm asking.)

I am also looking to upgrade. I also play emulator games and new games. Would the 5900x be as good as the 5800x3d?

Nice vid review. I had ryzen 2700 , 5700xt (2019) upgrade into ryzen 5900x with 6800xt around 2021 till present(2023).

Modern games are still made on old engines focused on single and dual cores mostly, so having strong single cores is key. BUT game devs often work under conditions where they are forced to cut corners in the optimization process. And those unoptimized chunks of data are easier to compute when having large L3 caches. We see a lot of titles being published without being fully optimized and I think this "trend" will continue. Another advantage of upgrading to a 5800x3d might be a tight long-term focused upgrade path. What I mean is, if u currently play on 1440p and u wont upgrade pretty much anything in the next years, squeezing every drop out of ur system, then u surely will have a solid performance boost with the 5800x3D when playing on lower resolutions, since it becomes super CPU bound the lower the res. I personally think about upgrading from a 5600g wich is basically a 5500. I dont expect big gains in most modern titles in 1440p (except for Star citizen....huuuge gains), but I wanna keep the 1% lows in check, have some longevity in my system and I dont wanna have to replace the whole system. + this CPU is really cheap in terms of Power draw and it totally pays off within a fairly short time, dependant on what ur electricity prices are (unless ur CPU only needs like 60w like my 5600g 😅 ). So if u wanna keep most of ur current gaming oriented hardware for 1-2 or more generations, Im pretty sure this CPU is a very solid pick and will keep your system competetive for quite some time. I just cant imagine buying an intel CPU for almost 3 times the money, 3 times the power consumption, some more performance but no intergenerational support for the socket. So props to AMD for releasing this amazing CPU, which u can boost your almost 10 year old system with and still stay super competetive in all gaming oriented categories.

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is a big application now so does anyone have any experience running MSFS2020 on the 5800x3d?

I upgraded from my 3600, huge difference even in graphic demanding games at 1440p, and only with a rx 6800. I play a lot of MMO's though and they love the vcache.

I had 3700x brought for 31,200 inr on 21 November 2020, now i sold it in 14,000 inr i aam getting 5800x3d for 28,500 5 months old should i go for it. I play pubg and valorant which is cpu intensive is it worth

Managed to pick one of these up for £230 so a pretty cheap upgrade for me if I flip my 3900x. The interesting thing for me as someone playing at 1440p is that while I might not see too big a jump at native resolution, the gains at 1080p look to be pretty big - worth noting for DLSS

Perfect video, thanks! I have the 3800X and am trying to decide to upgrade to this or just wait until I can afford to upgrade to AM5.

what wheel are you currently using?

I mainly run emulators and vr racing and fight sims, so i sof probably upgrade my 3700x. What performance monitoring software are you using? I tried msi Afterburner but it doesn't look as clean as yours.

yes, especially if you play 1440p, high details, or 1080p, with Ray Tracing. then the cpu will be important. 4k, i was surprised that a gain was preset. good idea to test this !

This is an excellent video other than the issue with your benchmarks. Look at your GPU usage in the overlay, it should be well under 80/90 percent in order to completely remove the GPU from the equation and get meaningful data. Next time simply drop the resolution down to 1080P and it will induce enough bottleneck to get useful results. Your results here don't tell us anything cause your entirely GPU bound. Other than that, keep up the good work.

my gpu wont come out even without screws in it and all tabs open it just wont come out it just bent my hdmi and display ports slightly so i will just be getting a new pc in 4-5 years if i still am interested in them (i have a radeon 6600xt and a ryzen 7 3800x)

I was CPU bound in MSFS with the 3800x and 2070Super @ 1440. M.2 failure was my excuse to upgrade to a 5800x3D paired with a noctua nh-d15s, new board, case, PS, and replacement M.2. Cannibalized the RAM, my other M.2 and 2 other storage drives, and RTX 2070 Super. My benchmarks in the sim is always in NYC, and seeing impressive gains there. Lows have gone from 25 to 35fps. Highs have gone from 45 to 60. Went from being CPU bound to GPU bound, which allows me to up items like LOD over 100 to even the load (high settings, 1440).

Great video brother that 5800x3d is no joke for the price

What settings did you use for these games? what resolution? I think I missed that. The reason I ask is because testing at 4k for example won't really show us how big of a jump we are getting on the cpu since we are primarily gpu bottle necked at this point for cpu averages vs say 1080p where we will see more cpu gains.

Your little table is drunk, looks very funny!

I have a 2070super and am planning on upgrading to a 5800x3d from a 3700x and better ram since I got my hands on a new x570 plus motherboard for free. I was wondering if it would be better to just upgrade the gpu to something current which would cost me like 150 euros more or go down this route and then upgrade my gpu in a year or so?

hi sir I have a r3 2400g and gtx 1660 and thinking if I should upgrade to r7 5800x3d or should get a i7 13700k or i5 13600k Im building a new system for sim racing and fps games but more on the sim racing side should I still stick with am4 or get the new 13thgen pc

I think I'll pass on the upgrade myself, and go to AM5 when it has to be. Good luck on the mustache; I believe in you!

This was a helpful video, thank you. I think it's worth considering the 7000 series in 2024 from Microcenter. Right now a 5800X3D would cost me 280USD, but a 7800X3D set with mobo + 32GB 6GHz ram would be 190 more at 470USD. This is a fairly decent jump in price, but I think it's worth it for me personally because I can never sell my old MOBO/RAM, but I can always sell a CPU bundle. I feel like people are more likely to buy a used 3800XT kit in 2024 than a used 5800X3D kit in 2027/28. So if you can manage to sell the entire set and get a little bit more than the ~150-200USD you can get from selling a used 3800XT alone, it might be worth jumping to AM5 with these Microcenter kits; opens you up for a 9000 series CPU only upgrade as well.

great video from a true america/canadian dude love the review brother i have a 3900x, i do a bit of video editing and a bit of gaming, im just trying to determine if i sacrifice a bit of my video rendering times for faster gaming? i kind of want to upgrade to a 5800x3d i will see i can always go back to the 3900x if i feel like a 5800x3d video rendering is too slow.

My current specs: RoG Crosshair VI Hero X370, 3700x, 16GB (2x8GB) 3200 memory, RoG Strix 5700xt, and my monitor is 49" Samsung CHG90 3840x1080p. I've only recently considered upgrading after playing the Diablo 4 open beta and realizing my rig is literally the requirements for HIGH settings. Realizing 16gb ram is also not enough anymore either. I considered the 5800x3d, 6950xt, and 16gb of ram, but after seeing the benchmark videos across the board, I think I can still hold off until the fall if not until next year. What I did do is buy another 2x8Gb of the same Ram kit. I now got 32GB DDR4 3200 @ 3466mhz, 4+ years worth of bios updates, Undervolt and OC my RoG STrix with the best profile for the best performance with lowest Temps, and I activated Smart Access Memory. Now I'm good for the next open beta on May 12th-14th. Depending on how my machine runs will determine if I need to shell out the money or wait.

I'm also considering if it's worth for me to upgrade to a 5800X3D with my monitor setup being 4K 60hz, but I'm pretty sure most people gaming in this price range are on high refresh 1440p monitors. Testing at that resolution will produce a very different performance delta between these two CPUs.

Hey i have a x3900 and a 4070, is better i upgrade to 5800X3D?

Just went from a 2700 ryzen7 65w chip to a 5700x itx system, definitely an improvement , still runs quiet and cool, cinebench r15 I just ran was like 231fps with a 3070 zotac 2fan card, n got me wanting to put my new zotac 2fan 4070 in it now, its in my 3800xt system at the moment..the itx 5700x is hitting a little higher score too..

I saved tons of money with the 5800X3D,. Since all the cache that has, even cheap DDR4 Ram get the job done and it's great paired with a 4070 TI/7900XT/3080 TI/6950XT. With your setup, could I suggest to add some 1440P benchmarks ? Thanks for this video and have a good weekend.

does the Wraith prism work with 5800x3d?

I currently game on a 5800x3D, and my son is using my old 3700X. I have absolutely no regrets and my CPU keeps up with my 7900XTX just fine.

I run 5800X3D with a 3070 at 1440p and saw huge increases over the R5 3600. I was not expecting these improvements to scale at 4K, especially with a 3080. Thanks for the in-depth testing.

Outstanding video. I have a 3800XT and plan on picking up the 5800XD. I play at 1440p and do play older CPU intensive games like Skyrim and Total War Rome II. I watched another video where there was not much of a bump in performance with this CPU and 3070, the same GPU I have, but in that video most of the games were GPU intensive. The 5800XD seems to be worth it if you play many types of games and don't plan to buy into how expensive current gen hardware is right now. Motherboard prices are a complete ripoff!

I'm also looking into upgrading. So I've got a GIGABYTE B450 AORUS ELITE + 16 GB 3200Mhz Ram + Ryzen 7 3700x + Geforce 3080. I'm also getting like 90-110 fps in warzone at the moment which is not ideal as I play competitively. I also get choppy frame rates in some other titles. I also work in Unreal 5, Unity and Blender as I'm a n00by dev. Do you guys think upgrading to a 5800X3D + 4080 + 32 GB 3600Mhz Ram will give me significant increases in performance or will the 4080 bottleneck the CPU? Or should I just get the CPU and the RAM? Perhaps look at the Ryzen 9 5950x?

I recently upgraded from a 3700x to a 5700x, and I found your comparison very interesting. I know you are a small channel. So I certainly appreciate your hard work. One suggestion though. Either keep your hands off of the small table you are using, or try filming on a more stable surface. I was starting to get dizzy from the shaking, lol. Keep up the great work.

Thanks I've decided to upgrade my 3800x as well, just need to find a good deal here in AU 😆

Why is the gpu clock higher with the 3800x?

Great video exactly what I needed cuz I'm in the same situation. I belive itll be pointless to upgrade to the 5800x3d and a new gpu at this time. especially when the 7800x3d is only $50+. Yes I do need to upgrade mobo and ram but that's mandatory. So for the same amount I built my old rig around $1500 it definitely be worth it in my opinion

If you plan on running for a while then the 5800x3d will extend the life of your AM4. You should also be thinking of 32Gb ram and a faster GPU and a decent monitor as other things that could improve the gaming experience. It's not all about top FPS. FYI I run a 5800x3d with a 4090 and don't plan on a CPU upgrade for another year. I would say for the 3080 I had the 5800x was just fine and I would have not bothered had I not upgraded the GPU and realised how OP it was.

I have a b350m bazooka and supposedly my r7-3800x is the last cpu it will support with the latest bios, so either way, I am looking at a new mobo with cpu. So, just as well make a jump to r9/mobo combo and the heck with it. Ugh.

I have a 3700x and a 3070ti with 32gigs of ram. I play a lot of Star Citizen. I'm strongly considering the 5800x3d

Hello, I recently upgraded my graphics card to a 16GB GTX 4060 Ti and currently have a 3800X CPU. After managing for a while, I'm considering upgrading my CPU to the 5800X3D. I want to inquire whether the issues I'm currently experiencing, such as high FPS drops during scene transitions and checkpoint saves, in-game huge FPS drops, and stuttering even with a 1 FPS change, could be due to the CPU?

Im considering upgrading from my 2400g/rx570(4GB) combo to a 5800x3d/7800xt (16GB) combo. I know its a big upgrade but I want to see at least 100% gaming performance no matter what I play. Plus I want productivity tasks to be dramatically improved as well. $850 is a lot of money to me.

I'm getting young Linus vibes here in that intro. Especially with that top cpu dangling precariously on the edge of the other cpu. But you're nailing today's Linus-level quality. Great video man. Hope you blow up on youtube!

The only problem is, this isn't where the CPU shines. You should test this with competitive gaming more in mind. As you need to do the tests in 1080p and 1440p. Which one can actually provide more fps for high refresh rates.

I went with the 7800x3d AM5 5 Months now from this posting and prices have dropped so it's only to be seen after the new case shows up and I build it

I just want to say Thank You for testing at 4k. The normies will shout about benchmarking at 1080p, duh. Those of us that play at 4k get to see if you actually gain performance. Why bother testing at 1080 if you don't game at 1080.

CPU tests should be done in 1080p, not in 4K...

Im in the same boat, considering an upgrade from my 3800x. But even a year after this video is made i personally cant see the value in upgrading to the 5800x3d. Not considering the iRacing (as i dont play it), realistically it an average of around 10% increase at 4K? I personally run at 1440 so I would have like to have seen these tests at a lower resolution. But considering the price for the 5800x3d in Australia is around $500 AUD, im not sure its worth it. I would rather wait another couple of years and wait till my system is pretty old and do a full upgrade. I want to see at least a 50% increase. By then PCI 4 or even PCI 5 storage & DDR5 will be well worth the upgrade and all the other advantages new tech will bring. Im going to save my money and buy a beast in a few years. Thanks for the video!

Its crazy how fast technology moves, i'm still on R7 3700x (Zen 2) when Zen 5 is coming soon. I'll probably upgrade to Zen 4 and call it a day. The annoying part is getting a new motherboard and DDR5 Ram but i suppose its a meaningful upgrade that'll last years.

Microcenter is having a limited run of the Ryzen 5 5600X3D for $229. These are 6 core cpu's that are pretty much bad yields of 5800X3D's so other than the lower core count, its the same CPU. So if you're in the market for an upgrade and close to a Microcenter, its worth looking into

why did you choose 4k when benchmarking cpu's? you even say, first thing, that warzone is bottlenecked by the GPU. How come you didn't just bump the resolution down to 1080p lol

The recent Microcenter 7800X3D combo pricing completely changes the conclusion today. I walked in with a 5800x3d reserved, about to pay $300 to upgrade the cpu, on what is now a deadend AM4 platform. For $200 more I went 7800x3d AM5... sell my AM4 parts... mostly a wash and now I am on a high end current/new platform.

Any benefit swapping a 5900x to a 5800x3d with 3090ti 32gb 3600mhz ram 5760x1080 triples 1920x1080 for streaming/telemetry

i got the 7900xtx and i had the 3900x in my system ... the 3900x bottlenecked this card so much that the upgrade to the 5800x3d was absolutely worth it. but ONLY in this case imho ... in some games the FPS boostet to 100% more! double the fps in some titles, and in some its "just" 20-50%

Thanks for the tests but why didn't you also test at lower resolution to remove the GPU bottleneck? It would have given us a much better picture of which CPU is the best today and also which CPU can handle future GPU upgrades best (or how much better the 5800x3d can handle an upgrade). This aspect is clearly the most relevant when upgrading from an already great CPU to and other great CPU:p

I upgraded last week from a 3700x to a 5800x3d. I play quite some games but WoW did see the biggest increase its hilarious. From 78 - 90 all the way to 144

Bro are you playing 4k max? Those fps are not 2k and definitely not 1080p

Why is the GPU running lower Frequencies with the 5800x3d? Was it oc'ed with the 3800x ?

So I've just upgraded from 3800X to 5800X3D and it's NOT worth it. Go for completely new AM5 platform, this is not an upgrade. Maybe it's gonna be more usefull after GPU upgrade, but if you think you will keep your 3-5 years old GPU and 5800X3D will bring you more FPS, than no. Only difference is in 720p or with DLSS on ultra performance (which is also rendered in 720p), 1440p or 4K (native) is the same, there is no difference between these 2 CPUs and CPU benchmarks say that there is just like + few percents for 5800X3D. I bought it because it's pretty cheap now, so why not, but I would say that build something already on 7000 series is probably better. For example super Pi 2M (sinhle thread performance) is like 9 vs 8s, Cinebench single core 515 vs 580, that's really not an upgrade, but yeah, it's at least slightly better. I would probably recommend more like 5950X because of more cores, you you will have advantage at least in software and games which can benefits from multithread, sinhle thread performance should be very similar.

Man im glad I waited a year to get on am5. Got 7800x3d for 350$

any chance ure could do it again with mw3 :P the damn 5800x3d sticked to his price but 7800x3d just is 100bucks more and the mainboards are like under 200

just running a little overclock on the GPU with the 3800x right..

From 3600 to 5800x3D it was completely worth it. Frame rates a third higher, GPU at 100%, CPU now at about 30-40% max, temps at 65c for both, fans silent, sipping power, undervolt and cpu power limit reductions are reaping massive benefits with consistent 4.5 boost. I love it.

The prices have lowered to the point where if you are starting completely from scratch, it is more reasonable to go to AM5 and the 7800x3D. If you have an AM4 motherboard though, it's still better to go with the 5800x3D or the Microcenter 5600x3D.

His video card is the problem, he's testing at 4K. He's bottlenecking at the GPU.

I've just upgraded from my 5600x to the 5800x3D because looking at the requirements for EA's new unreal engine 5 game and it says you need an 8core cpu so I figured going forward with UE5 games this cpu would be worth the upgrade.

If your buying from microcenter like you said then the 7000 series come with 32gig of ram so....

Went from a i5 10400 to a r7 7800x3D for 350. The difference was honestly huge, also upgraded my gpu.

I thought your supposed to be testing the cpu not the gpu, there is no load on thr cpu in 4k as we can see its all on the gpu

Would be an even better upgrade for those using 1440p or 1080p and want higher fps in shooters

Yes!!!! It is definitely worth it. On shooters I get a extra 30-60 fps. On AAA games I get 10-20 extra fps, but with a graphical/texture increase. AAA games look better with this cpu.

I'm not sure that.4k would have been the best to bench on 1440p would have been better I went from a ryzen 5 3600x and a 2070s to a 5900x and a 4070ti and I've doubled my fps I play at 1440p 165hz monitor atm and I'm at ultra not medium to low my timespy score went from 6.8k to 20k with a 23k graphics score My plan is either duel monitors 27inch or a 34 wide/27inch , my next build won't be till the am5 socket has been around for 2 or 4 years hopefully things will be cheaper, either way 4 years more on am4 would have been 8 years on the platform by then

Microcenter has bundles with CPU, RAM and motherboard on AM5 for $500. Not sure when you checked prices or what exactly you were looking at but $824?

I upgrade from 3700x to 5800x3d and big difference due to the face I bought a 4070 and old stuff kept my 4070. Just changing cpu I so big difference.

Maioria dos comentários usam 3700 e querem mudar para o 5800 óbvio q vai ter diferença, mas aqui no video foi 3800 para 5800 não sei se compensa, e o 3800x rodou baixo a 4.2 Mhz sendo q o meu roda em média a 4.4Mz e isso faz diferença. Não foi falado sobre resfriamento da CPU.

144p60 HDR wow 🤯

Just upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600 to 5800x3d and there was a huge improvement towards playing on 1440.