Using Trading Prop Firms For Unlimited Growth Potential & Minimal Risk

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Fatty Trades

Fatty Trades

Жыл бұрын

In this video I talk about how I plan to expedite my retirement goal by trading multiple accounts at once using Tradovate's group feature that is enabled on Elite Trader Fund.
If you are interested in becoming a funded futures trader:
Elite Trader Funding (preferred, easier evals):
elitetraderfunding.com/products/
Coupon Code: FattyTrades2023
Volland Discount Link ($15/off monthly):
vol.land/
Coupon Code: Fatty Trades
Tradytics Discount Link:
tradytics.com/?ref_link=fatty...
TopStep (secondary if you want additional accounts with another prop firm using TradeCopier):
app.topsteptrader.com/refer/s...
SonarLab (Smart Money Indicator Suite) referral link + 10% Discount:
www.sonarlab.io/?ref=kevinfatkin
Coupon Code: fattytrades
TradingView Referral Link:
www.tradingview.com/gopro/?sh...
Interactive Brokers Referral Link:
ibkr.com/referral/kevin6171
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@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
If you are signing up for a prop firm for the first time or struggling to pass an eval, this video might help. 9 Tips For Passing A Funded Account Evaluation kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd1jjJyCvJnNeWg.html
@jorgefortes4659
@jorgefortes4659 7 ай бұрын
😮 thank you very much ❤
@Corgi_Trade
@Corgi_Trade Жыл бұрын
the size of the funded capital are there to sound fancy. What matters is your max accumulated drawdown (trailing, daily, whichever lower) for all these funded accounts which is what these funded companies are actually on the hook for. for a so called “100k” static account is actually funded $625 max drawdown with a discount broker but my rent for this max drawdown limit is $80 per month if passed/ evaluation cost is $135 +$75 reset cost. No profit withdrawal till it’s 100 above 100k (which includes trailing drawdown for other account type, hence if your trailing drawdown is 1k for 50k account, you must keep making profits from 49k till 50.1k to be eligible for a profit withdrawal). Great “heads I win, tails you lose” business model for the prop firms. If my memory serves me correctly, I do not think elite traders sent real market orders btw.
@isabelle8084
@isabelle8084 Жыл бұрын
is topstep the same thing?
@machin3859
@machin3859 Жыл бұрын
ETF does push you to Live market if you perform well.
@Corgi_Trade
@Corgi_Trade Жыл бұрын
think about your rent (i.e eval/ reset/ monthly cost) to capital (i.e max drawdown, sorry I don’t buy the “marketing” capital size) makes sense vis-a-vis funding by yourself via discount broker with proper risk management You are probably not going trade a full 2 ES Contracts with max drawdown of 625 for 100k static account anyway without risking too much
@Corgi_Trade
@Corgi_Trade Жыл бұрын
@@machin3859 could you elaborate further on this? Any official link? Will love to get educated further
@Corgi_Trade
@Corgi_Trade Жыл бұрын
@@isabelle8084 can’t comment for certain but I believe players in this market will try to align their business model closely albeit some level of differentiation in their product offering
@ryan3.082
@ryan3.082 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I started a 25k EOD drawdown eval with tradovate as my platform after watching your other vids. A couple questions so far: 1) you still have to pay for a tradingview pro account with ETF right? It isn’t included? 2) are you paying for extra DOM data in Tradovate? The ETF data seems fine but tradovate kept putting up this notification asking if I want level 2 data whenever I’d open a new DOM
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Good luck with it, I like the EOD options a lot, I think they are superior to the static drawdown offerings. 1) if you choose tradingview as your broker they give you both tradingview and Tradovate since they use the tradingview plug-in offered by Tradovate. When you login to tradingview with it, it’ll use the data from Tradovate to populate the contacts you trade on and allow you to place your trades through there. It doesn’t upgrade your tradingview subscription though, so while you’ll have access to all futures at no extra cost since they are provided by linking your broker, preventing you from needing to pay for data from tradingview, if you want the features that allow extra indicators or multiple assets being viewed on the same window, you’ll still have to upgrade to the pro version of tradingview. The good news is once you are funded & receive your first payout, next year you’ll get a 1099-NEC so you can write off your tradingview costs if you get the pay for versions. 2) I don’t pay for the extra data, I don’t leverage the DOM so I’m okay with top of book. However, if you want level 2 data it’s an extra subscription cost in the ETF portal. Again,once you get your first payout you can write this stuff off end of year and reduce what you pay in taxes so be sure to save any and all receipts related to trading (level 2 data, tradingview pro, new laptop/monitors, reset fees, ETF eval/subscription fees, etc).
@DevanNielsenOfficial
@DevanNielsenOfficial 8 ай бұрын
Hey Fatty, how are your prop accounts doing? I've been looking into starting one.
@nickestrada401
@nickestrada401 4 ай бұрын
Do these prop trading firms limit your trading style to futures or fast day trading? Or is there benefit if you trade options with monthly duration + commons?
@rickmcdixon2675
@rickmcdixon2675 Жыл бұрын
hi & thx for your great content. Curious - What happened with Rocket Scooter ? A few months ago, you published several vids extolling the virtues of their system /indicators. But I've observed no mention of RS, on this channel or twitter etc, for several months. And now the referral /sponsor code has also been removed. Why the change - did you re-evaluate ?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades 11 ай бұрын
I really liked Rocket Scooter and their ways of simplifying complex data points, however I was an early adopter and ran into some issues on the platform that impact myself and a few others so didn't feel comfortable covering it until this were resolved. I still intend to revisit them someday, but had a lot of personal things pop up in life that put it on the back burner (all good things) so it sort of got away from me. I've since heard they fixed a lot of those early issue and know a few people having great success with what they offer.
@zain_kolsy
@zain_kolsy Жыл бұрын
Is there anything like that tradovate trade copying thing but for options? I tried searching but etoro kept coming up (to copy others) I just want to mirror trades across my accounts
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not for tradovate but there are brokers like Tasty Trades that I believe support this. Also check out sites like roboforex and copyfx. You can copy trades of some great forex traders on these sites if it's supported in your country.
@KenLahne2
@KenLahne2 Жыл бұрын
what trading method, strategy, concept will you be employing for this prop firm challenge?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
I use the same thing across the board, dealer positioning & dark pool data for macro analysis and key levels going into the trading day and then a combination of ICT smart money concepts (order blocks, rejection blocks, breaker blocks, fair value gaps, etc) with some volume price analysis mixed in for entries/exits on the chart. The one caveat when doing your eval to be aware of is you are better off taking profits after a big move then re-entering on the retrace if possible, rather than holding through and pyramiding entries, because of trailing drawdown limits. However, once you are funded and hit your initial profit goal, the trailing drawdown is no longer a concern.
@KenLahne2
@KenLahne2 Жыл бұрын
what trade copier is your buddy using? if you can put together 10k, why would anyone need/want/utilize a funded prop firm account? does that mean one is more careless trading other stranger's money? if not, why not get together with 10 family/friends and copy trade 100k?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
I’ll get the exact details but he’s doing something with quantower and Tradovate API’s as he outgrew ETF. I’m going to put together a free script for it soon and post it on a web site im working on for this kind of stuff for free. Well in this case it’s far beyond $10k. Initially you can start with smaller accounts but the potential really ramps up when you get several $250k+ accounts going at once. Your small accounts can stay on 1 mini per trade while the larger can do 20 Mini’s per trade. You could absolutely do that as long as you are okay with managing others money. The key factor is the emotional impact of trading friends & family money that isn’t buffered by a prop firm. It adds another layer of stress when trading grandma’s life savings vs money provided by a prop firm (might sound silly to say but the psych factor is big!)
@deepak.finance
@deepak.finance Жыл бұрын
This would be ideal after a practical strategy right?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely want to have a consistently profitable strategy you’re using otherwise you are just resetting account after account & while it’s better often times than burning through a personal account, it’s still a big waste.
@mohammedelqahtani3843
@mohammedelqahtani3843 Жыл бұрын
Can you suggest a prop firm that let you trade option!?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades 11 ай бұрын
I don't know of any that exist for options trading. I believe all choices are either for futures or forex because those are the most liquid markets.
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