VINCE RUSSO'S TRUTH WITH CONSEQUENCES: Chyna - How the wrestling business killed Joanie Laurer.

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Truth With Consequences

Truth With Consequences

5 жыл бұрын

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@tanyahack9896
@tanyahack9896 3 жыл бұрын
Vince, thank you for doing this. The interviewer is trying to compare stories. Edge is not the boss’s child. Sean is not the boss’s child. Did they ever offer Chyna help through their Wellness Program to get the help that they offer everybody else?
@scottmiller4859
@scottmiller4859 3 жыл бұрын
Shawn
@jasonmyers8600
@jasonmyers8600 3 жыл бұрын
Chyna was always more over and a bigger attraction than HHH. HHH has never been over to the extent of being in the main event constantly.
@christopherglowienka4680
@christopherglowienka4680 5 жыл бұрын
What a great amazing story, god bless you Vince for doing this.
@shawnbrown2726
@shawnbrown2726 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vince, a lot of Chyna's fans feel the same way. The business that she helped revolutionize shunned her and eventually killed her. Its amazing to me that with all the people that have came and went from the WWE and some having done things way worse then showing skin that they could be so dismissive of her and were so petty about her name. Why not do the right thing? the Boss's daughter was having an affair with the main guy that was supposed to be with Chyna. How fucking petty and classless. At least let her have her name and the ability to keep making money with it. Thats the least Vince and company could ve done.
@hensley5603
@hensley5603 3 жыл бұрын
Devoid of her personal history Matt, Lita & Edge did not directly involve the McMahon family. Completely different situation in that regard.
@901stinababy
@901stinababy 3 жыл бұрын
Paul was a good hearted dude, Joanie was a good hearted woman, Vince describing their relationship it seemed they were the best of friends. The thing is Paul had a support system outside the WWE Joanie had nobody but her sister and him, and the business then she lost all of it. Also the saddest ppl on the inside are usually the silliest funniest ppl. It's a coping mechanism
@boobierubi8567
@boobierubi8567 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Russo because now they’re making her wrestling dolls again selling them at stores now that she’s gone . I think WWE did her so wrong 😢
@velvetpilot2008
@velvetpilot2008 2 жыл бұрын
I really miss this podcast.
@melissaclemons9653
@melissaclemons9653 2 жыл бұрын
Vince loved Chyna so much. Chyna’s story is worse than any other wrestlers because it involved Vince’s daughter. They destroyed her.
@TheKevinNewsom
@TheKevinNewsom 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent broadcast! Subbed.
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 5 жыл бұрын
"You're attractive now." Words I've yet to hear, my dear...
@henrylansky4177
@henrylansky4177 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone on here talking shit about how you make your own decisions Should shad ep- you all have a victim mentality. None of yas have any idea what it musta been like to watch 3H become a star because your presence (lets be honest HE WAS BORING AS FUCK HE WAS PUT ON TV ONLY BECAUSE SHE WAS STANDING NEXT TO HIM). She made him, there’s no question about it. The players in this tragedy will have to look in the mirror until their dying day, and try to wash her blood off their hands. They pushed her away, she found love and acceptance in that dark side of show business. And she did too much shit one night. It is absolutely acceptable to place blame on 3H. SHE MADE HIM. I think about HHH and attitude era and there she is stone faced standing by. RIP JOANIE
@jasonmyers8600
@jasonmyers8600 3 жыл бұрын
HHH wouldn't have been anywhere if he wasn't in the cliq, and Chyna was more over than him.
@emmarubenstein9085
@emmarubenstein9085 2 жыл бұрын
And yet no one helped her when she needed it....show some respect......
@Rschr101
@Rschr101 2 жыл бұрын
Chyna is a legend and a one of kind talent. Joannie deserved better. RIP.
@stevenanderson9652
@stevenanderson9652 3 жыл бұрын
I would've so dated Chyna the English teacher. She seemed like all she wanted was love. And could never find it. No matter how hard she tried
@0therun1t21
@0therun1t21 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I love Chyna and she should definitely be in the H.O.F because she wanted it, she's in mine! (Not just in D.X. but stand alone). Russo, you sound like a good man. I know Sean is too, total respect.
@travfdy
@travfdy 4 жыл бұрын
Powerful
@marccuomo6723
@marccuomo6723 3 жыл бұрын
Vince russo is cool
@ken1d
@ken1d 2 жыл бұрын
Vince Mcmoane is a billionaire. This is a powerful family and wwe organization linked to many other power. Chyna had zero chance because she was roadblock to Stephine Mcmoane to Triiple H. They couldn't see her become successful without WWE cause then it would lead to massive exodus of other super stars. They couldn't afford to have that happen. So WWE made an example out of her. leting the other talent know that if you leave WWE, you will get no work. Vince Mcmoane gave Rock his name, why he couldn't give Joanie her stage name?
@901stinababy
@901stinababy 3 жыл бұрын
I had to finish this is two parts damn lol so in conclusion Chyna was basically the Whitney Houston/Marylin Monroe of the WWE.
@whatsoutthere
@whatsoutthere Ай бұрын
Well said check Rob Poylto he was her best friend. I'm glad you said something I struggled with depression and going through Chyna's life brought it back but think it is because you me and everyone who stands up for her feels that she is special and we can't just let this shit slide this woman got Rape on tv and what I mean is how people are treating her and now with the Vince McMahon scandals they are getting what they deserve.
@henrylansky4177
@henrylansky4177 5 жыл бұрын
“Too good for wrestling” wowwwwwwww She got in HOF tho
@BlackFlightNY
@BlackFlightNY 5 жыл бұрын
It’s still fucked up how they couldn’t “do the right thing ALL THE WAY” They still had to save face by putting their “wwe universe” spin on it 😒
@jeffwellingtoniii5828
@jeffwellingtoniii5828 5 жыл бұрын
It's sadly
@neilsun2521
@neilsun2521 5 жыл бұрын
It's standard practice for the WWE to keep the trademark names of talent when they leave though. And they did give her a career and fame. You'd think she could've done something without the name Chyna; being so physically recognisable. Harsh and sad as it all is...
@BlackFlightNY
@BlackFlightNY 5 жыл бұрын
Niles Harilie but they took EVERYTHING ELSE FROM HER!!! The man she loved wasn’t enough?? Her job wasn’t enough?? Her name and livelihood too??
@lrturner4141
@lrturner4141 4 жыл бұрын
If it happened now, sure. But it was a different time back then. Even Sable couldn't make it in Hollywood without the use of the name Sable back then. Marc Mero confirmed this in an interview with Hannibal. The Internet wasn't as big as it is now...no Twitter no Facebook and absolutely no Instagram. The name Joanie Laurer would not have caught on no matter her looks.
@jrad410
@jrad410 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackFlightNY Um Chyna chose not to re sign
@jrad410
@jrad410 3 жыл бұрын
@@lrturner4141 yea which is why The Rock was insistent on getting the name. It took him years to drop The Rock once his name was established
@jrad410
@jrad410 2 жыл бұрын
@Facetious Universe do you really believe the crap you’re saying? JR worked for the company too said Chyna wanted a large contract. You who else worked for them? Chyna herself who said the same thing I just typed but changed her stories to get sympathy from fools like you. And again Rock was smart unlike many of the other wrestler and understood his value. That’s why he got the name before he left, it had nothing to do with him being a legacy wrestler. And another thing you idiot John Cena is his actual name.
@marktorak5578
@marktorak5578 Жыл бұрын
Sean Waltman tried to get help for Chyna bit he had his own problems Waltman seem to have alot more love for Chyna then Triple zH did
@marktorak5578
@marktorak5578 Жыл бұрын
So Triple h gets rid of Chyna snd gors to Stephanie. Did Triple H have to ignore Joanie Chyna Laurer after that like she never excited. Snd of couse. Chyna eanted to he put in the hall of fame and eas ignored. Triple H dhould take some of 5je blame as to what happened yo Chyna
@whatsoutthere
@whatsoutthere Ай бұрын
"Yep, he probably got in Vince's ear about the rock. In Nick Kan's interview he said he begged him to talk to Vince about letting him use the name "the rock" because he is not making it in Hollywood. Remember Stephanie was ahead of creative in 2000, which was supposedly the secret affair timeline. People forget the Rock's big year at that time, but that's an important part. They put him down to mid-card. His first title reign was from Aug 26, 1999, to September 16, so he must have been mad. And Sean Waltman said something on Twitter, then retracted his tweet. Who told him that lie? There was a video, but Piper's family got it taken down, proving Chyna right. Chyna and Piper had the same lawyer. Sean was always spying on Chyna and giving info to Hunter. Just some of the times when she went on some podcasts. Two times he called, I believe. In the Hall of Fame, he was drug up, and Scott Hall, plus they both had domestic abuse."
@ryanreigns4343
@ryanreigns4343 5 жыл бұрын
Porn is not illegal. She was an adult. AGAIN porn is LEGAL people. Who gives a fuck if she did porn! She has every right to choose that job if she sees fit. People wanna be so judgmental it’s comical. I bet everyone of the people making the HOF decision watch or has watched porn! What a joke.
@jasonmyers8600
@jasonmyers8600 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the man she did the porn tape with, Sean Waltman is in the HOF lol
@young17ish
@young17ish 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Vince Russo went to Chyna’s funeral?
@GodlessScummer
@GodlessScummer 5 жыл бұрын
I'm almost certain he probably did. Vince Russo was very close to her. I don't know if it's still on KZfaq but if you haven't heard it you should see the podcast that he did after her death. He was absolutely devastated.
@GLPitt1
@GLPitt1 5 жыл бұрын
The E dicked her around for sure. Yes, they do it to others. Doesn't make it right. She should be in the WWE HOF. Porn or no porn. And drugs? Every great wrestler from the past was on all kinds of drugs, that's laughable.
@ruiz1264
@ruiz1264 5 жыл бұрын
Gregory Lewis No he didn't, no one familiar to her went to her funeral, It was a mess It was a show more than a funeral and only X Pac,Melina and RVD went
@jonsey183
@jonsey183 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t go even though he said that he “loved” her over and over lol
@m.f.culler9012
@m.f.culler9012 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonsey183 he said he wasn’t going to because that’s what he had to do to deal with it. He also said he didn’t go to his grandfather’s funeral who he was as close to as he was with Chyna for the same reason. I get it.
@garybaker497
@garybaker497 5 жыл бұрын
This is bad. This is just Russo exploiting the fact he was friends with her and trying to pile on the wwe. Hes got constant examples of her lying yet everytime she has a bad thing to say about the wwe or hunter he believes it? It really is incredible how petty Russo is here and to wonder why the wrestling community has buried him....here is a great example why. I started to get into Russo but it's impossible to respect him after listening to this crap.
@jojoface4940
@jojoface4940 3 жыл бұрын
Bahahah! You're dumb
@LadyDragonsblood
@LadyDragonsblood 5 жыл бұрын
People have breakup in relationships all the time.... heck some are even left at the wedding alter.... they don't turn to porn and drugs to get over it. I am so tired of Russo blaming Stephanie and Hunter. Chyna did what she did to herself. You can't blame anyone or anything on what you do. You have to be responsible for yourself. If you aren't strong enough to handle it..... GET HELP. There is no weakness in getting therapy.... not turning to drugs and alcohol. Her life was no tougher than many others..... a lot of people have a very hard time in life.... and they learn how to turn it around and turn out to be fantastic people. Joanie had no one to blame but herself.
@masterthomas7872
@masterthomas7872 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you find it messed up that Stephanie is the catalyst of blacklisted her? It can mess up someone with a hiring process and then learning it behind your back? That's worse. Yes, she couldn't overcome her problems but she did tried to find help. She tried to, but it wasn't enough. Laying the blame of herself isn't enough.
@ruiz1264
@ruiz1264 5 жыл бұрын
Master Thomas No she didn't, she was a smart Woman and an icon but decided to do drugs instead and after NJPW bye bye trailblazer, she went downhill and wanted herself to do porn and drugs; And Stephanie did NOTHING because before the thing with HHH she was promoting Chyna in every matchup and promo she could, she loved What she did and Chyna herself said when she wasn't a mess in 2001 that HHH was responsible and not Stephanie, and let's not forget that Stephanie said she Will be in an interview. And is really dumb to think she was fired in 2001 bc of her Relationship with HHH and believe her BS. Chyna and him broke up in Early 2000 and she still worked and got a shit load of a push with the Mamacita and an opportunity to redevelop her character and open a lot of doors to her career with beauty coming into the picture
@gypzeerecords
@gypzeerecords 5 жыл бұрын
LadyDragonsblood are you a doctor? A friend? Do you realize that most people who come out the other side of addiction have help and hope? They have someone there for them. Joanie has a falling out with her manager ... she had no communication with any family ... Now, when Scott Hall or Waltman needed the help .... they all came running to bring them to rehab. Gave them help and hope. She was on her own. Don’t judge ....
@brianmorgan6524
@brianmorgan6524 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a response from someone who has never truly struggled or have had depression. You're judging someone based on a lifestyle and business you know nothing about and never will and I'll add to that by saying you probably never could have.. Fuck off you judgemental naive prick
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150
@ElmoKnowsWhereYouLive5150 5 жыл бұрын
@@ruiz1264 Nope, they broke up in 2000. You're mixing up their on-screen break up with their real life one.
@adrenochromejoe7448
@adrenochromejoe7448 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody has to take care of themselves. She did porn and drugs.
@adrenochromejoe7448
@adrenochromejoe7448 5 жыл бұрын
@Quintin Banks What a stupid statement
@laneyblackwell5059
@laneyblackwell5059 5 жыл бұрын
What does that have to do with anything
@FuckThatYo
@FuckThatYo 5 жыл бұрын
@Gerrold Lloyd If we’re talking about stupid statements, take a look at yours. Fucking idiot.
@user-qq6zt9hh4j
@user-qq6zt9hh4j Ай бұрын
Vince Russo is a simp for chyna
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