VW e-Up 37 kWh Geilo test

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@energiavadasz3328 4 жыл бұрын

You are the best ever EV reporter, tester.

@ItumelengS 4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Talaxianer 4 жыл бұрын

Wax on, wax off!

@alfredogonzalez1280 4 жыл бұрын

I live in Costa Rica. Here we don't have government incentives for EVs but rather heavy taxes to maintain a huge and inefficient number of public employees. Thus only very rich people can have EVs. So I enjoy Bjorns videos dreaming what it will be like when we common people can drive second-hand EVs and stop polluting with fossil cars. Keep the great job man !!!

@marting1146 4 жыл бұрын

No artificial lobsters were harmed in the making of this video

@Robvdh87 4 жыл бұрын

Nicely done with the phonescreen overlay again Bjorn

@saklosaklo2591 4 жыл бұрын

I like the Gelio test, it is a good real world test :-)

@ivangluvakovic9870 4 жыл бұрын

Nice Test Björn! Thx for it!

@user-in1gn6fw2eab 4 жыл бұрын

With the new government grant in Germany 6k€ it will be the exact same starting price as the petrol one. So theres that. Makes for a great second family car. Edit: government increased the grant to 9.5k€ Max. I ordered an e up, will come next may right in time when i move and will need it. Thank you for the great Videos bjørn.

@FFVoyager 4 жыл бұрын

It's not an urban myth, it's polite to slurp your noodles in Japan.

@87Radim 4 жыл бұрын

People who can afford VW e-up they can't afford a Chinese restaurant! Hahaha I'm dead 😂

@Soordhin 4 жыл бұрын

Yeh, i found that funny as well. Although the e-Up is probably mostly sold as wifey-car or for the kids.

@fietsaccu-repair 4 жыл бұрын

most people here cant buy a new car from 26K , rent/lease are company cars maby?

@Soordhin 4 жыл бұрын

@@fietsaccu-repair I guess it depends, as usual. The average car price here is around €36k, so an e-Up would be well below that. Not to mention of course, that a government grant takes at least 4k off the price, more like 6k. With that the local price is closer to €17k (starting price is lower). Well suited as a beginners car, a second car used for the kids (if they have a license) or the wife. Main car in many cases is a company car though.

@zwanz0r 4 жыл бұрын

Please do the 1000km challenge with E-up. Really curious how it stacks up to Zoë and Ionic. Also: please do all tests again in summer 🙊

@johannes914 4 жыл бұрын

done

@bernardcharlesworth9860 4 жыл бұрын

Will get plenty of snacks when I get my niro in the spring.thanks for interesting video

@pallibj 4 жыл бұрын

18:00 "Don't forget to breathe" :-) Nice video Bjørn :)

@chazsmith4351 4 жыл бұрын

Good job Bjorn, you've got to be the hardest working man in the Eevee vlogging land, love the wax on wax off, it's silly but fun. :-)

@finvka1 4 жыл бұрын

☺️ Very nice real world testing! Extremely helpful for us, who have ordered one of the three siblings

@hirveeressi 4 жыл бұрын

Sähkömii sinullekin tulossa? Oman toimituspäivä olisi sopparissa 31.8. Saa nähdä koska se oikeasti tulee...

@finvka1 4 жыл бұрын

@@hirveeressi 😊 Minulle tulee Citigo. Miillä oli jo liian pitkä jono

@user-in1gn6fw2eab 4 жыл бұрын

Wow that sounds great!

@halvatek1 4 жыл бұрын

Watching Bjorn eat, slurp and enjoying his lunch...mannn, he just made my day!!!😆

@CoolSilver 4 жыл бұрын

Kettle time. Man brings me back to MF days.

@Gazer75 4 жыл бұрын

The smaller portion of energy in Norway is from waste and other remote heating in cities.

@berthogendoorn722 4 жыл бұрын

I would love to see 2020 e-Soul Geilo test, during colder days.

@siraja6788 4 жыл бұрын

my man Bjorn, do you even spend time in the house? I see you all the time in the car itself

@smoothflying 4 жыл бұрын

of course, he does. This is his work

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

I spend more time home now than before when I had 9-5 office job. You just don't understand how it works. Instead of "wasting" 40 hours per week + commuting which didn't result in any video material (obviously), you now see way more videos. And the Nimbering in the past was also very time consuming.

@leoo2824 4 жыл бұрын

Love your eup Videos. I'll get this year... Very hiped

@fussDevelopement 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the test! One thing I heard is that maximum charging speed on CCS for e-Up greatly depends on battery temp at start of charging. So in one forum they recommended "pre-charging" until battery is a bit warmer and then starting the charging session again and this should result in higher speeds. I'm pretty sure this makes no sense and is some sort of urban myth, but if you think it would make a funny video it would be great to see if this is actually true

@MCSMIK 4 жыл бұрын

I now start appreciating how good our 30kWh Leaf is all over sudden. And how massively ahead our Tesla is. This charging situation is madness

@taztaz79 4 жыл бұрын

@@rocketman4315 Well its basicly 3x the money for a Tesla Model 3 actually :) .. So i say this E-up is a very good deal actually :)

@nukularpictures 4 жыл бұрын

Well Tesla is ahead because this car is the basic one. So battery is just half the size, no complex thermal management, etc. And then I have to say I like that the charging speed is quite limited. Means that the battery will last forever. Plus the range and consumption is quite good for the car. It was always a problem with the ice Up that the consumption is not as low as you would think for a car this size. Also I would not say it is that bad. I mean yeah it is not a car you want to do long trips in but that was never the purpose of an Up anyways. On the highway the car is not really nice to drive and for a city car all of that does not matter. In fact I am thinking of buying the skoda version. Fits my profile perfectly. I always take the train for longer trips anyways.

@cbromley562 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the charging situation is madness in Britain. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaupmaaUpsjYe4k.html (£80,000 iPace chasing chargers)

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

Classic Ioniq 28 kWh charged at max 70 kW and had active cooling. It only cost 20 % more than e-Up.

@Quickicecarreviews123 4 жыл бұрын

Love Bjorn triggering everyone with low beam, high beam

@Yaishen 4 жыл бұрын

Bjørn, It would be interesting if could add to the sheet the charging time and speed in Geilo test. It give some information how long stop you need in the way to the cabin. Thx. Great work!

@Gazer75 4 жыл бұрын

@9:30 That is Geilo substation. The valley has some 66kV lines from a couple of smaller hydro plants near Haugastøl and all the way down to Nesbyen. The substation has two transformers for 66kV down to 22 or 11kV for more local distribution stations, like to the smaller substations near the chargers where it again is stepped down to 400V. openinframap.org/#13.59/60.53881/8.22726

@olafborkner 4 жыл бұрын

Bjørn, you are hilarious. Chinese food in a car😁

@mattymrj01 4 жыл бұрын

These kinds of EV's really just make sense for people who never use more than the battery range at once, nobody wants to wait half an hour to charge 40% in any circumstance.... most of these cars that are sold will only be charged with destination chargers I think

@robduncan599 4 жыл бұрын

I have no experience with EV , but I disagree with you . I think people that buy this small city type car , will not be making regular long journeys, so they ,(I know I would ) would most likely welcome a toilet and eating break . And people with this type or small car are more likely to be careful/ slow drivers not so much in a hurry so topping up every 1.5 -2 hours , I dont think most people would mind . Also I think a lot of people that buy this car would be inclined towards hypermiling, or at least driving carefully and taking advantage of drafting when pos . I drive like this in my citroen berlingo 1.6 diesel. I can see this EV would compel most of us towards hypermiling.

@ricardoaguiar8841 4 жыл бұрын

Well, it is a city car so, it's good enough. You really wouldn't want to drive 1000 km in one of these, me thinks.

@bonkerbanker 4 жыл бұрын

I have the 18 kW/h version and i find it great. 18 minutes 10 to 90 %.

@robduncan599 4 жыл бұрын

@@bonkerbanker can i ask how far will that 90% down to 10% take you driving at a modest speed? I am guessing using 80% battery from 18KW/h = 14.4Kw at 6km/kw = 86 kilometres? Am i in the right ballpark?

@evilmario6061 4 жыл бұрын

As a Brit, I can say that this size of car with this range is ideal for us here in the UK. I imagine that in France, Germany or Spain it'd be significantly less appealing. I can cover most of the south of Britain with this range and the longer journeys that would require charging would be planned around mealtimes in order to make waiting for it to charge less tedious.

@MacBaerFFM 4 жыл бұрын

my ZE40 is also slow at charging at cold temperatures...which is probably what bugs me the most about the R90 ZE40. Getting "only" 22kW through AC is slow enough but no, it can make it even slower down to 7 something, even if well below 80% SoC. Seems like the new Up! falls into the same category with a slight advantage in some situations.

@taztaz79 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. I was charging my R90 ZE40 today.. Battery was 5C when i started charging.. Charging started at 22kW but went fast down.. When coming back to the car i was getting 8kW (20min later) my range when leaving was 110km so far away from full.. Think i was at 45% SOC when i was leaving. Good thing though is that R90 has battery heater/cooler and that helps a bit.. It will start if the battery is 8C or colder (or maybe 9C?) ..

@siraff4461 4 жыл бұрын

Use a lot of heater and drive it a bit less sympathetically. You will use more battery doing so but it also keeps the battery warmer which means 22kW all the time.

@martingorbush2944 4 жыл бұрын

@1:30-2:00. Nice slip stream riding :).

@peq9385 4 жыл бұрын

There is a quite a bit price difference between Hyundai Ioniq and VW e-up. 40 000€ for Ioniq and under 20000€ for e-up. The e-up does not have a heatpump which does affect it a lot in colder conditions.

@carlomorischi3435 4 жыл бұрын

1000km challenge please!!!!

@byivan1 4 жыл бұрын

you always find vanderful music Bjorn......."good shit" man hahaha

@mozzimozz4074 4 жыл бұрын

17:29 And I am like: oh no, not again please :D

@shockwave1xD 4 жыл бұрын

Are you going to do a 1000km test with the Up? Would be interesting to see how it compares to eGolf and others

@evexperience7756 4 жыл бұрын

1000km Challenge? Duration 2 days ;)

@ahmethakanozguven4642 4 жыл бұрын

bjorn mukbang

@TravelwithPavel 4 жыл бұрын

I know the old E-up had much smaller battery (half) but even in cold temperature (-3) and 20 which 15 was highway. I received around 39-40 kwh until like 80% and when it was around 4 - 5 degrees it was around 44kw. I think the old one would make this faster, at least entire round trip.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

You mixed up kW and kWh.

@TravelwithPavel 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland yeah I know, but you the point

@TheNighthawk00 4 жыл бұрын

"Engine cannot be started" ... say what?

@John_S_NL 4 жыл бұрын

Curious how the e-up performs when the outside temperature is higher, lets say 15-20 °C. What will happen with the consumption and charging speed?

@martingorbush2944 4 жыл бұрын

@13:40. Down hill driving is the way ;). Only 8.2kWh per 100km.

@Pilsnor 4 жыл бұрын

Getting a good slipstream in the start, i wonder how much that helps with range🤔

@rkan2 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could add Webasto to it? :D There is quite good room in the motorbay.

@MrKlawUK 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any chart/list of charging speed? Low battery but slow charging, vs high capacity but faster charging. Eg minutes per km added range?

@yellowseven48 4 жыл бұрын

It would be nice to see a test or at least a comparison with the Skoda citigo ev i know they are basically the same car but it may be interesting to see What Skoda have done with it

@alexmeier121 4 жыл бұрын

The Car button on the App looks more like the Zoe, not like a VW 😂

@adrianmunozgil1156 4 жыл бұрын

Someone know if it possible to charge the VW e-Up with 3 fase? Björn Nyland Thanks the for greats videos, keep the hard work.

@CoolSilver 4 жыл бұрын

Some say he drives to Geilo in winter to be in a viking folk metal band..... All we know is that he is charging in Gol.

@molnartiby 4 жыл бұрын

P=U x I The U=320V it is low. (like Ioniq 38kWh) It looks like the sane problem with the batt. output voltage. Or maybe it is only coldgate...

@vdivanov 4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. It's both.

@thorarnerugsveen5794 4 жыл бұрын

It was raining during the Ionic test, and the Ionic is still 10% more efficient than the E-UP.

@karelschmidt5195 4 жыл бұрын

The last table seams weird. You needed 124% to Geilo with 156Wh/km consumption. On the way back you needed only 105%, so far so good. But the consumption should be more like 132Wh/km to make sense.

@ricardoaguiar8841 4 жыл бұрын

17:25 There have been some sightings of a possible UFO flying quite low. Populations are advised to remain in their homes until the authorities have a chance to understand and study the phenomena.

@ThePeterOlausson 4 жыл бұрын

Eating in the car while charging is such a great experience 🤘

@rafardzrba 4 жыл бұрын

I get a feeling that the Geilo (J-Lo) test should be about the cars rear bumper and how much junk fits in the trunk.

@SandroAntonucci87 3 жыл бұрын

It never charges at 40kW because of the ambient temperature?

@4N2IN0JA 4 жыл бұрын

Try a 500e road trip 🤣 It took me 12 hours to drive 220 miles because of charging time.

@jean-claudevijt4695 4 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting what the degradation of the battery will be after 5 or 8 years. Volkswagen claims you can drive 8 years/150000 km with this battery.

@simong6855 4 жыл бұрын

But you didn't " paint a fence" ;)

@kasmopaya2676 3 жыл бұрын

A long, long time ago, a time without corona. Yet ^^

@cannygrowabeard 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone else getting lots of ads for the Toyota CH-R (lying hybrid) ??

@ashrafjacobs446 4 жыл бұрын

Ey Bjorn, can you do a Range test with 370Mile Raven Model S Long Range. There is literally no video on that yet! Even Hypermiling it would be awsome to watch! But painful for u HeHe - Cheers

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

I already have it in my channel.

@ashrafjacobs446 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland can you share that link

@nevco8774 4 жыл бұрын

Can I ask how close to each others are chargers around Oslo? According to videos I have an impression that each 10-15 km on any road you can find a charger at least capable of 50 kW.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

map.chargedrive.com/en/

@Till113 4 жыл бұрын

9:55 as an up! Owner I feel offended

@ItumelengS 4 жыл бұрын

I felt that

@foe936 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@taztaz79 4 жыл бұрын

hahaha.. yeah me too, planning to buy an E-Up :) I have not decided yet though.. Either an Model 3 or E-up.. But M3 is 3x the money.... and this will be our 2nd car that we use when travelling alone or to work..

@m1k869 4 жыл бұрын

Well, I can't afford an e-up! so theres that.

@psykbe83 4 жыл бұрын

Especially because it's not cheap ! Over here in Belgium it's 26K€ which is about the same price as for a petrol golf with lots of options ...

@stevenroelandt5747 4 жыл бұрын

When will you do tests on a Peugeot e-208? :-)

@bjornmaust5008 4 жыл бұрын

😂 cooking in an EV? Check✅ 😂😂😂 great 😂😂

@BuntaBall40 2 жыл бұрын

Man I wanted to see more Chinese food

@daniellisy7161 4 жыл бұрын

Bjorn, so what is your recommendation, is the e-Up 36kw worth is if you are on budget and its the top one could afford?

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

*kWh

@daniellisy7161 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland year right :), so what do you say new e-Up, or rather used ev, what's your personal recommendation?

@IcebergRoss 4 жыл бұрын

Hope you never drop that bowl of soup with boiled water on your legs!

@emilianomontanari283 4 жыл бұрын

We need to know the consumption at 120kmh or 130. The typical highway trip. Thank you !

@taztaz79 4 жыл бұрын

There is another E-up video posted a few days ago. Go check that one.

@did00p 4 жыл бұрын

in previous video there are some suggestions - about 22 i think. watch it ...

@emilianomontanari283 4 жыл бұрын

I have seen it but I don’t find the consumption at 120 o 130kmh (average)

@did00p 4 жыл бұрын

@@emilianomontanari283 just watch it again and pay attention, at 17:10 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ot1xoZmi057VYHk.html

@justjc51 4 жыл бұрын

If you need a cheap EV for highway driving the Hyundai IONIQ EV is a better choice. Even the first generation with the 28 kWh would be able to do any trip this new VW can do on the highway because its design is significantly more efficient at that kind of speeds and sometimes you can get a great deal on a used one.

@Joakimjakobsen 4 жыл бұрын

Damn.. the slurp reminds me on some films i've seen of japanese.. hahaha

@jimaustin6410 4 жыл бұрын

Why not just run between 20 and 80 percent charge. Wouldn't the battery charge quicker

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

Is that a question

@fietsaccu-repair 4 жыл бұрын

look like these 37Ah LG are samsung sdi? cells are not so good like the 25Ah gen 1 Sanyo cells? i hope they degrade not to fast ! too hot too cold have big effect on these cells.....these cells needs active cooling/heating. Old 25Ah cells have no real problems in summer and stil have good IR by lower temps so range dont drop extreem. i like to buy a second hand in the near futior from one are two jears old when this batterie is prove to be good and not degrade to 80% in 2 years :(

@SpikeXtreme 4 жыл бұрын

Why are you charging with the DRL'S on @ 17:08 ?

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

Car was on for heater.

@nutzeeer 4 жыл бұрын

I will never buy an electric car without thermal management.

@user-in1gn6fw2eab 4 жыл бұрын

Well thats on your part. You ll surely find one with, thats not going to be a problem

@justjc51 4 жыл бұрын

To be fair to VW the words motor and engine is interchangeable according to many sources, such s the MIT School of Engineering, see engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/whats-the-difference-between-a-motor-and-an-engine/

@jdnrotterdam2150 4 жыл бұрын

They really have to do something with the charging speed because this is not fun

@Reason077 4 жыл бұрын

I love how Bjørn's pronunciation of "Volkswagen" sounds like he's saying "False-wagen". It's funny because it's true!

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

It's the correct and German way.

@jozefheinrich 4 жыл бұрын

CCS charging speed: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nL5ijbui0pe3nas.html

@itsfahys 4 жыл бұрын

Your eating habits are very Funny and wheres wifey ??

@kungabarn 4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha 😂 another boring ride.... keep up man...👍👏👏👏😎

@energiavadasz3328 4 жыл бұрын

Can you show me if and how could you sleep in that car? May be an over night sleep with heating.? Thanx,

@ivangluvakovic9870 4 жыл бұрын

Energia Vadász for what???? This is a Citycar man! Nobody want to sleep in this little car! Björn has no time for this stupid tests

@energiavadasz3328 4 жыл бұрын

@@ivangluvakovic9870 But it would be funny and intresting. Not everybody can afford a bigger ev.

@ivangluvakovic9870 4 жыл бұрын

Energia Vadász mee too! I also order the E Up. But you have to respect björns work. Do you really think he have time to sleep in a Baby Car ? This test is completely nonsense. The chargingspeed and the consumption was interessting...

@energiavadasz3328 4 жыл бұрын

@@ivangluvakovic9870 Why do you think i do not respect Björn's work? I folow and suport him from the beginings. I am just curius about laying down position in the car that is all. Never know when you are forced to sleep in the eup or citygo.

@jozefheinrich 4 жыл бұрын

range/consumption during constant 100km/h on autobahn: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mMqBjduYltewd4k.html

@davithdevries6774 4 жыл бұрын

VW probably deliberately limited the DC speed in BMS so they can live up to their "8 yr battery guarantee". I think they are afraid city ppl without home/public charging will use DC a lot/or only (without active cooling) . And then VW needs to pay for a new battery in a couple of years. Of course since this is the eGolf pack and old 18kw Up charged at 40kw continuous, this one should be able to as well! They could have set a DC charge limit like Tesla before limiting speed, but they probably don't want to deal with "I feel betrayed now my car charges slower" customers after the Diesel scandal, or make complex explanation in the manual about a DC limit. Tesla customers are more forgiving.

@tonibrucker2053 4 жыл бұрын

Next time bring your skis while charging to 100%.

@nachocollantes7602 4 жыл бұрын

Thumb up if you think Bjørn stays too much time in a car....hahahah....

@happy_keats 4 жыл бұрын

you sound like Neil Degrasse Tyson

@Plexipal 4 жыл бұрын

Asian size 1”. They’re bigger than that, at least 1.5”😂

@arenjay3278 4 жыл бұрын

This is like a very inefficient Chevy Spark EV. 2/3rd efficiency and 2/3rd charging speed.

@madgaming3172 4 жыл бұрын

The last 2% comes from the German wind turbines :D we export so much electricity to all our European neighbors. Norway, Switzerland and Austria are alle used as a battery thanks to their large amount of pumped storage :)

@TravelwithPavel 4 жыл бұрын

Not all, Czech Republic exports a lot and France also and in few years after you close nuclear power plants you gonna be buying electricity.

@MacGuyver85 4 жыл бұрын

Pavel 49 Nope, quite the opposite . France is exporting less and less (less than Germany) while Germany is exporting more and more. Don’t be surprised when France gets into serious supply trouble this decade.

@vdivanov 4 жыл бұрын

@@TravelwithPavel check out electricitymap.org

@TravelwithPavel 4 жыл бұрын

@@MacGuyver85 you still have nuclear power plants, what you gonna do after closing them?

@MacGuyver85 4 жыл бұрын

Pavel 49 Celebrate of course! Then curse because we’ll have to foot the nuclear waste clean-up bill. All the while enjoying that clean solar and wind power, naturally 😎

@jdnrotterdam2150 4 жыл бұрын

Real range is 150 km with a/c on... bad...

@jdnrotterdam2150 4 жыл бұрын

On holland this car is 20,000 euro!!! Not normal!

@stevencorrea6946 4 жыл бұрын

I'm only partially Asian and I'm offended by that little itty bitty joke

@NeverFollows 4 жыл бұрын

First!!!

@columlynch4229 4 жыл бұрын

Love your channel but not your eating habits. You've got to go easy on the processed shiiiiiiiiit man.

@tyrantwitness2482 4 жыл бұрын

Bjorn this video is full of rubbish! First #VW half hearted attempt at making an #EV and then you eating junk food ! Try the Ketogenic or even better the #Carnivore diet ! You won't feel hungry and not need so many comfort breaks ! Otherwise, keep up the good work!