Kia e-Soul Geilo test failed

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@jannemyllyla1223 4 жыл бұрын

It seems they designed the charge port so that you need to pee on it during the winter.

@alejandromeneses7735 4 жыл бұрын

and then the pee refreezes and goes to melt in your garage... LMAO

@coniow 4 жыл бұрын

+Janne Myllya, Well, there will probably be no shortage of pee in that cold weather ! Just don't do it with the port open, or your eyes might light up!

@jannemyllyla1223 4 жыл бұрын

@@coniow I was thinking I just skip owning this kind of model here in arctic conditions.

@adewouters 4 жыл бұрын

No no no, it needs a power wash at every charge, this way you are forced to keep your car clean. Clever. Or not ? ;-)

@01lojan 4 жыл бұрын

Whenever the charge port on my Kia E-Niro seems to be stuck I press unlock on my remote key and the charge port is unlocked. It always works even in slushy freezing weather....The same should work on the Soul, same electronics, mechanics and software. I have now made 64400 km with my E-Niro and never had a problem. I live in Stockholm, Sweden, by the way...

@skyfox77 4 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say this too, just seemed like the chargeport was locked.

@Alban_Gaultier 4 жыл бұрын

For sure Bjorn talked too much before he tried to open the port so it was locked again, a simple press on the key would save his time !! :)

@adewouters 4 жыл бұрын

Bjorn is a Tesla owner for many years now, he doesn't know what is a key anymore (just kidding) ;-)

@lavamakt 4 жыл бұрын

I have experienced the same i my e-soul. It was simply locked.

@nagabiru13 4 жыл бұрын

Love the geilo test.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

JLO approves!

@tiger8853 4 жыл бұрын

I do like your humourous and practical vides!

@moestrei 4 жыл бұрын

1/2 Norwegian + 1/2 German + 1/2 Thai + 1/2 Chinese = 2 Bjørns

@brecherxp9795 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, there is an unknown brother somewhere. I always wondered, because you seem to work so much. So its just your twin brother?

@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын

Maths is normally his strong point, but I though that was hilarious too. I thought he might add another half in there and get to 2 and a half men.

@robinrutschman 4 жыл бұрын

14:06

@CoolSilver 4 жыл бұрын

Shaken not stirred? :)

@paulcox4369 4 жыл бұрын

Wish Tesla M3 sr+ & Soul were the same price in UK, Tesla that means l wish you were cheaper! M3 is about 17% more expensive & attracts luxury vehicle tax. My Soul is being delivered this month, very excited.

@fleyua7176 4 жыл бұрын

Took the soul over the M3, it is a very comfortable car and sits higher as well. The m3 in Canada cost nearly 10k more. If the soul has the glass roof it would be perfect especially with no bar in the front. But then you get more noise with less insulation. There is no free lunch I guess. The have stock with the souls here in BC. If they shaped the back like a Porsche, while keeping the front, Kia would make a killing. I think you bought an awesome car.

@hg60justice 4 жыл бұрын

like frozen doors. a little windsheild washer fluid poured over will help melt and flush out slush.

@Reason077 4 жыл бұрын

We need to start the “Society for automotive charge port placement”. A research and advocacy group who will make recommendations, and name and shame car markers who put their charge ports in stupid places. This freeze-prone charge port is not smart. Honorable mention to Mercedes e-Vito who managed to put their charge port in the dumbest and most inconvenient position possible on a van!

@alejandromeneses7735 4 жыл бұрын

Like many others, Mercedes decided to ignore the need for a convenient port location (that people will need to use almost daily) and stick with the same place where the fuel cap was. VW even said that they left it on the passenger side near the back because "Drivers already know where the fuel port is, so that will make it easy for them to remember where to plug". They really think we are stupid like that?

@Reason077 4 жыл бұрын

@@alejandromeneses7735 Passenger side near the back would be a big improvement on the e-Vito. Mercedes put it right in the middle, so you need a super long cable no matter how you park it. The only worse place to put a charge port would be on the roof!

@Reason077 4 жыл бұрын

@@alejandromeneses7735 (in RHD countries, Tesla's charge port is on the rear passenger side, and I find that to be a pretty good spot)

@alejandromeneses7735 4 жыл бұрын

@@Reason077 True... I forgot you RHD guys. To me, either right in front of the driver door (unless you have a monster bonnet like Bjorn once endured) or at the back is perfect. Indeed, it should not be too difficult to have it on the driver side for LHD or RHD depending on the market, right?

@Reason077 4 жыл бұрын

@@alejandromeneses7735 In Tesla's case they would have to design different charge port parts for LHD and RHD vehicles, and it would probably effect placement of the charger hardware within the vehicle and maybe even the design of the battery pack. So, probably more difficult than it seems!

@coolfrost6 4 жыл бұрын

Some times I whish my i3 had a front charge port just for everyday ease of use. But considering how annoying it will be to deal with snow and ice the side is probably better overall.

@coolfrost6 4 жыл бұрын

@@mjk8019 for sure it's a problem that can be engineered away. And since Japan gets a fair amount of snow I'm sure it's been considered. But if you forget to consider it you are more likely to run into problems with a front placement compared to side.

@VolkerHett 4 жыл бұрын

Open the charge bay doors HAL ...

@wzDH106 4 жыл бұрын

My biggest issue with the e-Niro, sharing a similar charge location I constantly fight with the charging door in poor weather. Wet weather will essentially jam it in place requiring a little love tapping on the hinged end to pop open.

@fleyua7176 4 жыл бұрын

I got the Soul EV 2020 64KWH here in Canada BC. 99% of the time can charge at 45kw even in -10C. I picked the soul because of the room and no need to sit "down" into the car. More comfortable than the M3 as well and about 10k cheaper than the base model 3 Sr+ with more effective range. Heating is also very efficient on this car when I compared with other tesla owners. It's generally cooler here in BC so even idling doesn't use up much at all because of the heat pump. If the shaped the back like a porshe it would be an awesome looking car. Front is great and led lamps in the front is great for visibility. Not sure that was shown in the previous videos but it's worth a mention. Lighting to the side of the vehicle is excellent and is great for driving safely.

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

We test drove the 2015 Soul last summer. My wife liked it the best if 6 evs we drove that day. I know the drive train and battery are shared with Hyundai. Good stuff. How is ride and noise level. Does it feel like decent quality for the price paid? Very curious to see your summer range

@luciavelikov0132 4 жыл бұрын

Bjorn Peugeot 208-e please you have it there for sure.Thank you for your great work.

@Jorkk111 4 жыл бұрын

Björn. You have amazing content in youtube. Keep up the good work.

@JohnRoss1 4 жыл бұрын

There is a latch release cable under the hood.(in the Niro at least) It should pop open enough to grab it. You have to be able to open the frozen hood...

@TheJedivendelbo 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Bjørn... Wil you be doing a TM3 Geilo test? I know that it can make the trip but it would be Nice to have a benchmark for the other cars :)

@advancedinstructor 3 жыл бұрын

Your channel is brilliant and the tests really are a great gauge for EVs. I really struggled to watch, as the following distances are really short, even in dry conditions, in my opinion. A key objective is to see more ahead, so focus on that, then ability to stop will be better too. I struggle also because you are distracted too. Just as I was writing this, the incident occurred! Well, if they had more space, your test would have gone ahead! Nonetheless keep up your efforts in the channel, love the humour too! Stay safe!

@coniow 4 жыл бұрын

Love the Robert Llewellyn impression :-) 14:20 As for the charge port, our eNero has been doing that as the hinge has dried up with the rain and road crap. I now use the Kia key fob (a flat, thin, metal tag) to gently prise it open it by a few mm, to get a finger around it. Front mounted charge port ? Bad idea. What happens when the flap is mashed in a low speed shunt ? If it won't stay shut, you can not start the car!

@footix64 4 жыл бұрын

A ionic with 204 horsepower motor from the kona and the 64 battery pack would be great

@JohnDoe-vx3z 4 жыл бұрын

Would be a dream, but impossible due to packaging restrictions.

@brucec954 4 жыл бұрын

EV Design guide: Active battery cooling, Charge port on side.....

@krisskuli 4 жыл бұрын

I like how you randomly use german expressions :D And I really mean that i like it! :D

@MassivePaper 4 жыл бұрын

I dont think you mentioned it in this video, but I cannot stop calling the charging on the tesla "After burner" lol. Now all I need to do is find a way to get one....Hi from Canada

@freshnost5197 4 жыл бұрын

Au! whats up with the maxed out music volume in recent videos?

@MacBaerFFM 4 жыл бұрын

no emergency open under the bonnet? Or maybe this is the Thailand Edition with all Winter features removed...

@fintrollpgr 4 жыл бұрын

The LEAF has the charging port in the front, but does not suffer from that issue. I would have thought Hyundai would have fixed it as the previous versions of their cars had the same issue. Did they not supply them with a gasket at some point?

@Mark-ue6pm 4 жыл бұрын

Good review. How do you get all the data about SoC on you phone?

@koalafudge 4 жыл бұрын

I've seen quite a few people put a foam list on the inside of the charging ports of the e-soul and the kona to prevent this from happening in the winter. Strange that the manufacturers wouldn't do that by default if they want to keep the ports in the front.

4 жыл бұрын

The charging port sometimes gets stuck for me as well. No icing though. What helps is to lock and unlock the vehicle. I guess it's some sort of mechanical issue.

@MrComradeKaizer 2 жыл бұрын

Something similar happened to me with my fuel trap on my civic, there was a hidden cable in the trunk to unlock the flap, maybe there is something similar under the hood?

@nevco8774 4 жыл бұрын

Now I see what you commented about Etron which being thirsty but charges really fast so on the long trip is much more convenient than pure efficiency with very slow charge of new generation of Kia and Hyundai vehicles. Obviously the best combination is fast charging and high efficiency of Model 3. Model Y will add practicality to the mix. Norway due to the lack of highway system and use of conventional 2 lane roads makes possible to really enjoy winter gorgeous landscape of the mountains in that fabulous corner of the world.

@madgaming3172 4 жыл бұрын

Hyundais and Kias should have 120 kW peak charging rate. This would be a bit less than 2C charge rate which the batteries can handle with liquid cooling. Kind of dissapointing see all those evs with decent sized batteries (50 kWh and up) having supbar charging speed.

@romainhedouin 4 жыл бұрын

@@madgaming3172 Agree Renault Zoe is a fantastic vehicle My 2013 Renault Zoe (22kWh) charges at 43kW AC 😍 ... The brand new 50kWh Zoes charge at 50kW DC 😐 More than double the battery size, only slightly faster charging... 1C only...

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

@@madgaming3172 Tesla model s and x both with 100kw batteries severely cut charging rates when over 50%. Smaller batteries cant handle the heat of fast charging and they have a smaller safe zone of rapid charging . Model 3 has better cooling system than even the s,x. Rivian may be able to rival the cooling system of the 3. Porsche , etron uses a good cooling system and adds a large top and bottom buffer to protect the battery. Thus they can fast charge near 100 %. They can always use over the air updates to release more of the battery for usage if they find their batteries are holding up good

@RoteLars 4 жыл бұрын

Have you comparison table of Winter range between this, Kia e-Niro, Hyundai Kona EV, and even Renault Zoe ZE50, Hyundai iONIQ EV's old and New one and difference of range and charing speed between them and offcourse prices?

@thorarnerugsveen5794 4 жыл бұрын

The charging port locking mechanism must be lubricated with oil to remove the moisture.

@victorseal9047 4 жыл бұрын

Hitting the charge port is useless when it’s frozen, if you take both your thumbs and press firmly it is more effective.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

I tried everything. Trust me.

@johiidk 4 жыл бұрын

loving the slow Danes without winter tires comment! So true.

@edogeerlof282 4 жыл бұрын

Tesla Model 3 is much more expansive over here in the Netherlands than the Soul 64. Especially when you are leasing is in a private or business construction. Would love to drive the M3, but do enjoy the cheaper alternative.

@stephenclay6852 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t the e soul have a battery heater like the new Kia e Niro 4

@Baisemannen 4 жыл бұрын

Currently have this as a loaner as my B250e is in the shop getting a new motor. It's a good car but the main drawbacks for me is the turning circle, too boxy, tiny trunk space and way to many buttons and sounds. Range is fantastic compared to my Mercedes though 😅

@seanbailey8545 2 жыл бұрын

I heard it had more rear headroom than the eniro and Kona.

@ruedigerpreiss9307 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think the charge port was frozen - if after unlocking the car you don't open the port within a certain time the port locks again. you have to lock and unlock the car with the key fob and the charge port should open. Same with Kona. No idea why they designed it like that tbh

@colonelcarrillo3695 3 жыл бұрын

you could spray the port with de-icer

@audiocobweb7350 4 жыл бұрын

Sheeet, the charge port...

@michaelkania803 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Test! Sometimes you speak german words. Thats very good, better than my norway!!!

@andreaskauck7811 4 жыл бұрын

Anti ice Sprayer should work too.

4 жыл бұрын

I had heated radar even on Škoda Fabia!

@A2an 4 жыл бұрын

14:12 That was a lot of halves 😂 👍

@JohnDoe-vx3z 4 жыл бұрын

200% bjørn

@whatudoinmarius3074 4 жыл бұрын

Det hender at min hyundai kona sitt lade-lokk er låst, men samtidig er dørene er ulåst. Så må bare låse opp bilen med nøkkelen, så åpner lokket seg :)

@chesi87 4 жыл бұрын

charging in DC does not damage the batteries?

@micksoden7064 4 жыл бұрын

How about keeping a small can of de icer in the car?

@alanmontgomery5464 4 жыл бұрын

Bjorn, can you make a video on your thought about the Tesla model Y? will it be more like a SUV? i.e. higher seating position than the Tesal Model 3?

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

There have been more pics out there of y next to 3. The y is quite a bit taller. It looks like an x

@loufadoros20 Жыл бұрын

07:48 actually..., there is! You have first to open the engine compartment and then there is a leaver in the centre, in front of the engine which you can use in order to open the charging port

@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын

There's no engine in an EV.

@mrlintonious 4 жыл бұрын

One would think that as they do Winter Tests, they would have encountered such problems as the Charge Port getting jammed/iced-up..why not have come up with a solution...so too for the Radar getting blocked.....why then do the Winter Test at all?

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

We always see cold weather testing in very cold frozen lake. Dry snow, no traffic/spray

@CK-be3hf 4 жыл бұрын

So now You know why a chargeport in the front is a bad idea overall

4 жыл бұрын

you could have peed on the charging port to melt the ice :-D

@justjc51 4 жыл бұрын

and get arrested for public indecency...

4 жыл бұрын

@@justjc51 no risk, no fun

@mondotv4216 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm - that could make the Darwin Awards.

@clasqm 4 жыл бұрын

Time to invest in a 12v hair dryer.

@gisobo 4 жыл бұрын

I think a Boring Not-A-Flamethrower should be appropriate.

@sigmaxi7822 4 жыл бұрын

Did you experience any traction problems? There is a German review of the new e-Soul in winter and once it got stuck on a snowy surface, the wheels were just spinning, but the car didn't move a bit.

@piciu256 4 жыл бұрын

Every car gets stuck with bad tires for the conditions. Even awd won't help on summer tires in the snow.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

No problems. I drove over 20 cm of wet snow in the morning.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

You need Nordic friction tires.

@harrisj67 4 жыл бұрын

De-icer Bjorn?

@slipperyslope3912 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is the shiiiiiiiiit. Best reviewer ever.

@OrletaFC 4 жыл бұрын

What app do you use when showing voltage etc?

@EV_OBD 4 жыл бұрын

This is Car Scanner Elm Obd2

@jdnrotterdam2150 4 жыл бұрын

2 hours for 100%!? Thats so bad why???

@tiagoluna1942 4 жыл бұрын

Not all cars are designed for cold climates. ;)

@enricio 4 жыл бұрын

Was that a fart you done late in the video?! 🧐.

@CoolSilver 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting horse trailer. Oh yeah slap it around. Bad Kia, why you treat us so cold?

@ZoltanUszta 4 жыл бұрын

The horse trailer guy at 3:30 had very likely no horses inside, with horses you usually keep the back curtain open regardless how cold it is - you put blankets on the horses and still provide a good airflow

@Alekpowah 3 жыл бұрын

App-control for HVAC is very useful for a cold country like norway, how anyone choose cars without this feature in norway is beyond me.

@MrDGS999 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Bjorn, watched your videos for a long time and want to use your referral code in the UK, is this possible? Thanks David

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's possible.

@EVPuzzle 4 жыл бұрын

That looked like you needed the Key fob unlock to unlock the charge port. It doesn't give you long before it locks it

@Isaac-un4cn 4 жыл бұрын

The charge port was behaving like that, but that should NEVER be an issue when the car is unlocked. You could see right afterwards that he directly entered the car without unlocking anything. So I don't think it was an issue with the car being locked.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

I did several lock/unlock.

@descb600f 4 жыл бұрын

Charge port on my Optima would only be unlocked for a while and would then lock. I've also heard a 2nd press of the unlock button works.

@leifjohannsen1662 4 жыл бұрын

Is the UVO-app now available for European Soul, e-Niro?

@benpragt9737 4 жыл бұрын

Yes i have the E-Soul with the app. in the Netherlands.

@leifjohannsen1662 4 жыл бұрын

Ben Pragt . Oh we CAN still not get it in Denmark. KIA Denmark says it not will be possible to install it in models already sold in Europe. How did you get it?

@benpragt9737 4 жыл бұрын

@@leifjohannsen1662 It comes as standard with the new e-soul. For the older models, I think (but I am not sure) that we can buy a separate connected-car module with a subscription.

@leifjohannsen1662 4 жыл бұрын

@@benpragt9737 Thanks for your information. I really need the app when we are charging on public chargers and hope KIA has thought about that. It's a must if not to be sitting in the car or come back to a failed charging.

@olafhe7843 4 жыл бұрын

The App seems much better then the Nissan App.

@autokingking1606 4 жыл бұрын

Does it shows where the Kia is?on map? Leaf app this funktion in Germany not working since end 2019

@torea6084 4 жыл бұрын

Next time just use any plastic card around the gap of the charge port. Gets the ice/snow out easily.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

I already tried that and it didn't help.

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland I would like to see someone fill in all panel gaps with a clear or color matching silicone. Then slice the silicone in the middle of the gap at an angle so the door, trunk, frunk, charging door can be opened. This will eliminate wind noise, and water intrusion. And with matching color silicone. Make panel gaps mostly invisible.

@AmundAntonsen 4 жыл бұрын

oooh! "gone wrong" and "failed"! must see 😂

@JohnDoe-vx3z 4 жыл бұрын

The e-Golf has a heated radar imho.

@santerixdxd 4 жыл бұрын

John Doe didn’t björn also say that?

@JohnDoe-vx3z 4 жыл бұрын

@@santerixdxd yes, I overheard that apparently. The heating works excellent btw, I never had any problems even in heavy snow.

@santerixdxd 4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-vx3z it's really a no brainer for colder climates. I find it strange tesla and other manufacturers don't have heated radars for colder climates

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

Tesla loses all cruise control when sensors iced over

@gisobo 4 жыл бұрын

Do all front chargers suck in winter?

@tr6609 4 жыл бұрын

No. Nissan leaf and renault zoe works just fine. They are done properly. Hyundai/kia is probably the worst case I've seen.

@whatudoinmarius3074 4 жыл бұрын

Never been a problem on my kona.. Lives in Drammen, NO. Cabin in Gol, NO.

@barryhaeger4284 4 жыл бұрын

In UK we've such a mild winter I haven't found out if this affects the MG ZE EV or not?

@fleyua7176 4 жыл бұрын

Did have any problems with the soul down to -10C. Driving 70kms a day, snow doesn't do much and just requires a firm touch to open.

@seabream 4 жыл бұрын

Not really. I've had two Leafs, current generation and the one previous. I haven't had the lid get frozen shut just due to weather while driving. I have had it freeze and not pop up when I press the open button on the new one when it's been really cold when I've gone through a car wash and I haven't opened it up and dried it before leaving the station, but it's not hard to open in those cases - just press the open button on the key and pull the lid before the latch locks again. I've had both freeze shut when parked outside overnight in freezing rain, but, you know, if you have a centimetre of ice all over the car, it doesn't really matter where the port is. You can't even open the driver's door in those circumstances anyway.

@sanderwroldsen5755 4 жыл бұрын

Kan du lage noen videoer med den nye peugeot e-208?

@gerard8931 4 жыл бұрын

What about **e-208** ..? Superb video, keep going !!

@gerard8931 4 жыл бұрын

@@jazdan223 Thanks for the info !

@edalabrigs 4 жыл бұрын

Hi I like your way of testing cars I am from India Here ev car market is slowly Growing it's a big market Can you test india made TATA Nexon which is on sale here if you are able to do so it would of great help

@FELUNKADUNK 4 жыл бұрын

horrible design....the front of my Tesla always freezes blocking sensors, this would be a nightmare...thank god i didn't get a Kona.

@atvarsgr 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't know, that in bad weather conditions radar (ACC) is not working for most of the cars, except WAG's. Charge port dosn't open, imagine women operating this KIA :D

@golfish8589 4 жыл бұрын

Tesla loses all use of cruise control when sensors are iced over

@cypercharged5960 4 жыл бұрын

The app shows 170 kW max charge power???

@DerBlauzahn 4 жыл бұрын

yes, for regen.

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

Max regen is about 100 kW.

@DerBlauzahn 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland I already tested it with Torque Pro. It's more than 150 kW regen (using brake pedal). Ioniq 28 can do 98 kW.

@OrgChromer 4 жыл бұрын

@@DerBlauzahn So theoretically the fastest way to charge it is to tow it 4-wheels down... A shame the BMS won't let it charge at those rates. 😥

@DerBlauzahn 4 жыл бұрын

@@OrgChromer With towing, it would be overheat.

@01lojan 4 жыл бұрын

What probably happened with the stuck charge port was that it was locked. This same thing has happend with my Kia E-Niro. When you went in to got the plastic bag with warm water you propably locked the car. When you got back you unlocked the car with the remote key and at the same time the charge port unlocked. It had nothing to do with the the port being frozen shut

@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын

No, I clearly showed in the video that the car was not locked.

@01lojan 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland I understand, but it happens that my car is unlocked and I still have to press unlock on my remote key to unlock the charge port

@01lojan 4 жыл бұрын

I guess this is a SW bug

@aklophus 4 жыл бұрын

Jepp...sometimes I need to unlock one more time with the remote to unlock the charge port in front of my e-Soul. You also have to use your whole palm, and lay it across the whole "door", and use a lot of force when there is slush everywhere that is halfway blocking it. @Bjørn Nyland you can't use lady fingers to push this charge door :p

@fleyua7176 4 жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland Press unlock one more time so you hear the 2 beeps and open with a firm touch. Works for me all the time.