Maul actually came across one and fought and killed it in a cantina

So their existence was solid and acknowledged within the star wars galaxy society just no one knew of the military vong fleet in the edge of the galaxy

@@cherrypoptart2001 Well, no, the one that Maul killed was in a arena, and no one even knew what it was at all and did not really cared as it was the most entertaining fighter they had.

@@cherrypoptart2001 They actually exist thousands of years before they invaded

I dunno. Jon Snow tried that by hauling a wholeass Wight into King's Landing to gain support. *Jaime was the only ONE person who jumped boat, the entire rest of Cersei's faction still said "fuck'em".*

Sees suncrusher the son the inferno or blaze

Considering that the Vong literally had hundreds, even thousands of planet-sized warships, I don't think they'd be as afraid of Imperial ships and superweapons as you think. The New Republic had Star Destroyers left over from the Empire and fought the Vong with them. Granted the Death Star could destroy Yuuzhan Vong worldships, which would make it a priority target for the Vong fleets.

Based

What did he mean by that? 365 trillion people and in metric 500 trillion persons? What?

@ @Paul Bedford , what’s imperial and metric measurements ?

@@thekhans2823 do you live on earth?

A lot of meat suits

@ @@jadenrocks22 , yes but tell me what they are

It could have been fantastic.

@@hightechredneck8587 "We were on the verge of greatness, we were *this* close"

The one problem I can see for this is that it could too easily become an R rated film. This isn't good for marketing and mass appeal.

Tarson Talon not at all many movies nowadays are pg13 venom, Jurassic world, avatar all those have serious themes and have killing in them

Kathleen Kennedy would still have hired the same writers/directors and the movies would have been just as bad or worse. We would still have had no back story of where the vong came from or there motivation for invading lol it would have still been a re write of new hope just with different aliens in a way I’m glad we got 3 half ass movies because I heard John favreau and David filoni ( two mega Star Wars fans with real original ideas and know what the source material is about) and that could mean we may have a chance for a good movie in the future? One can hope anyway lol

Haha 😂 This New Republic would have surrendered to the first puddle jumper they saw!

They couldn't even beat the Bargain Bin Imperial Remnant (First Order.) The Vong would have massacred them in a week at most, two days minimum.

Canon New Republic would've lost to Legends New Republic.

Both New Republics didn't stand a chance to be honest. Only reason that they did win wasn't because of them it was because of Imperial and other faction entering into the war and also dessention in their ranks towards the end

@@theshadesofreal9372 Legends NR was holding on even after Coruscant fell, and yes it did take some underhanded tactics to get a functional government again.

That would also cause a lot of panic. Causing more problems. And no one would have even believe old darth syphilis

@@braincell4536 well, if Palpatine indeed found out about the Vong when he was Chancellor of the Republic, a calculated move would have been to inform the Jedi Council, thereby allowing them to form a task force of their very own, even going so far as to include the clone army and the Separatist armies, and plan for the invasion 50 years prior to it actually happening. With the Jedi "on his side", Palpatine could have rallied forces from across the galaxy and have the faith of the government (The Senate trusted the Jedi at that point) and would have been faithful to him for as long as he was in power. That way, any Jedi potential would have been accepted into the Order, forgoing any age restriction, and thus increasing the size of the army tenfold. If you look at the Legends Jedi Order after the empire's defeat, there are many older people and fewer children (save for the Skywalker and Solo kids) by the time of the Vong War (most of which have been recruited when they were middle-aged or mid-20s/30s). So, basically, Anakin's kids, who were originally born after Order 66, would have been born into the Order under the new Republic army Initiative and trained from birth to be Jedi Warriors. If the Jedi Order of the Old Republic was still around by the time the Vong Invaded, skilled warriors and strategists would be able to command great legions of clones, civilians, and droids against the invasion, and be able to save worlds that would otherwise be destroyed or converted by the Vong. Also, all the planets that produce chocolate would have been saved (In the original Vong war, 6 out of the 7 planets that produce were ravaged).

Even more ironically the jedi would have joined with palpatine against a greater threat that would see countless more lives lost than palpatine ever would as supreme chancellor or whatever the fuck he called himself at the time.

@Something New Plus would the Vong even have attempted their invasion at a time when a strong centralized power controlled the Galaxy? All of the Vong vs Empire scenarios seem to operate on the assumption that the Vong will invade without taking into consideration who they are fighting

John Patz you mean the rebel alliance? The resistance during Palpatine’s rule.

I feel it would end up like the old Republic jedi and revan with the mandalorians.

When the vong would be the Mutual enemy of Jedi and empire would be like in the old republic when the republic and the sith empire worked together to fight revan and his forces

Steven Stringer fun fact, Canderous Ordo actually fought a Yuuzhan Vong scout ship during the Mandalorian wars!

That's right!

@@johngancarcik5682 I don’t remember that? You mean when half the sith betrayed revan by helping the republic? They still fought before and after.

Too bad Thrawn trusted his Noghri bodyguard Rukh when he shouldn't have... Which might count as a mistake.

Their art? So, grossly mutilated bodies?

@@levitschetter5288 Their ritual mutilations are just one example. Another would be the way they prepare and preserve the remains of their dead.

@@ZoeMalDoran My applause for the appropriate use of Wedge's quote.

Take his DNA and make clones of him whit the same personalities and thats how you win over the Vongs

Only speculation in the part of pro-Imperials like Lenang O'Pali.

@Cian Abroad Yeah, people like to read too deep into everything.

@Cian Abroad The biggest problem with the argument for the empire is that the remnant did assist the New Republic and made JUST ENOUGH of a difference for the republic to win the war. What REALLY won the war was Zonoma Sekot.

Hell Yeah. I mean, granted, no matter what way you spin it, Sidious is a monster in the worst way and doesn't even get the excuse character like say, The Emperor of Mankind gets, where what they do is for a greater good. He just would rather not have his stuff overrun by eco-terrorist, technophobe sadomasochist zealots. But yeah, it raises one of the best questions for Star Wars in the matter of the Empire and the Site in that, "Does might make right?" Sure, they aren't exactly cuddly, but at the end of the day, they do a damn good job at defending their worlds. Hell, even in swtor, it was the Sith Empire that ended up helping the Alliance against the Eternal Empire.

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We also have to remember what Revan did as well. He was known to meet the enemies blow for blow. Especially with the Vong being the threat they were, the bioweapon would have actually saved lives

@midgetydeath 100% agree. With all the technology precautions could be placed to avoid most of the native galactic inhabitants from coming into contact and keeping usage under control

Shows the character of the people here. The last book in the series shows that the vong end up containing the Alpha Red to a single ship after it devastates a planet under their control, then decide to use it against Zonoma Sekot. It's a good thing that Sekot was able to intercept the ship before the vong could have destroyed yet another planet like they did to Ithor and others but with the aid of Republic Intelligence. But to go back to my original point, it took some time to develop the Alpha Red virus that originated from Ithor and was too late to use as a deterrent in the war. Its use without the vong committing numerous atrocities themselves would have made for a situation far worse than what the head of the Republic Intelligence had to face in a quiet resignation.

@midgetydeath the only reason bioweapons and chemical weapons usually arent used in earth wars is because neither side wants to deal with the weapons being used against them. It's also the reason war crimes exist. Once you cross the war crimes threshold then everything is on the table for both sides. The vong were using bioweapons. They were committing genocide of hundreds of trillions. They were committing war crimes In war if your enemy is using a tactic that works and you do not adapt and use it too then you are at a disadvantage and will therefore lose. This is basic shit knowns since the days of sun tzu. There are a lot of dead idiots buried on the moral high ground "Dont stoop to their level" is a bullshit thing we teach children. Sometimes you have to stoop or your head will get chopped off. Do what it takes to win then rewrite history afterwards The use of such weapons wouldnt be immoral. Whats immoral is having a way to stop them and not doing it while trillions die. Sounds like the new jedi order needed to be order 66'ed too Chiss should've deployed the bioweapon anyway to protect themselves and let the jedi die fighting conventionally. Then when enough of the space wizards are gone offer the bioweapon to the republic but this time negotiate certain bonuses for the chiss so when THEY win the war and save the galaxy they get to become dominant. The NR had their chance. They lost it when they didnt use the bioweapon. The chiss shouldve then taken control building their own empire. Heavily reinforced the fact they won the war. Wiped out the jedi and reduced human influence in the galaxy. After a corrupt republic, clone wars, tyrannical empire, and then the vong catastrophe it is clear that humans and governments influenced by this force religion need to be overthrown You could easily turn some propaganda around rather than the force cutting the vong off the force refused to aid the jedi in fighting the vong. It abandoned them and they have no mandate of the force to justify any lesdership roles anymore

@@warzIbanez then improve upon it and keep trying. The vongs entire culture were atrocities. Use every weapon at your disposal if your face an existential threat. Yknow how russia beat napoleon and Hitler? They destroyed their own country before their enemy could

I always like to hear about evil vs evil kind of fights

Failbadon. Really, that's how bad even the 40K fans see him. But I think it'll be more like the Horus Heresy, where they will get all the way to Coruscant, only to fail.

@@HolyknightVader999 I didn't know that Horus was attacking Coruscant :D

@@hamsprovided9936 I was referring to the Vong, but either way, they'll get to Coruscant but fail, just as the CIS and the True Sith Empire before them.

@@HolyknightVader999 OK

Right, yeah, guess it takes a Mary Sue to beat a Mary Sue race.

DarthWall275 i didn’t say he’d beat them, I stated that thrawn would have been an asset. The empire had a lot of resources that thrawn and the chiss ascendancy didn’t have access to. Thrawn would have been able to use the empires navy and fight against the vong effectively enough so that the empire stood a way better chance of mitigating the losses that the new republic ended up suffering.

@@hoopsonwheels There is also the fact that neither Thrawn or the Vong are Mary Sue related since it is not like the just "popped" into existence and have zero background unlike some other characters and groups who had pretty much gone unnoticed until they had a real relevance but no backstory.

@Cian Abroad Oh yes, he fucking planned his death in legends and planned for fucking warp capable space whales to pull him to who knows where along with his star destroyer and Ezra in what is now canon, He also planned for his subordinates to screw up his plans. Even IF he was a Mary Sue, he would just barely make the cut due to the fact that his plans can and have gone wrong to HIS dismay, also there is nothing wrong for having backup plans or making plans to help correct the failure of another plan. How would you like it if you were called a Mary Sue for messing up your job but having a plan to fix it? because that is essentially what you are saying about Thrawn because even if he enjoys it, it is his job. Also, just going to point this out, but most militaries in reality have failsafes or contingency plans for when their major operations, and even if not they will learn from the failure most the time in even minor operations, such as what routes are being monitored, what armaments the enemy has, ect. Like, I don't really know what your version of a Mary Sue is, but mine is one that can come out on top of anything without having proper plans, will not even die in the end, and never experiences true loss or defeat.

KOZAA MOVIES this explains everything...

Death to the water dwellers!

That might explain their use of coral.

Well just remember they evolved from sea mammals thats some note

They killed the humans on the earth and found more humans in the the star wars galaxy.

"Sure we only lost a couple Trillion lives, but, hey, at least they weren't Tyranids." - Some guy in the Adeptus Administurum.

Except this is a galactic wide war where 40k was a sector or planet every decade or so battle. Every black crusade was only 1 sector. The tyranids attacking the smurfs was only one sector. 40k hasn't had a true galactic war since the horus heresy and the imperium almost got its arse kicked.

I remember someone on an old forum doing calculations one time and worked out that all the casualties in the Yuzhan Vong war would equate to about ten years worth of combat deaths in 40k (roughly), and that was being generous in favour of 40k's stupidly grim derp setting. Going by that logic, it's probably the other way around. A good Imperial Guard engagement against chaos would probably be a good Tuesday for the Yuzhan Vong war. And I'm not exagerating, either. 325 Trillion is an insane number and would take you something like the equivalent of 1000 years to count to. I mean, a million minutes ago = around 2 years ago, whereas 1 billion minutes ago, Jesus Fucking Christ was still alive. Average planetary death counts in an invasion in 40k are usually in the mid billions and it takes a lot of billions to get to even 1 trillion. So, as I said, before, 40k had it easy.

@@physical_insanity GW writers themselves say the books contradict themselves so much they are not canon. They say it is similar to military propaganda. An imperial battleship in one book is 5km while in another book that same battleship is 25km. I can see what the GW writers mean by military propaganda using this example. Every Abaddon crusade literally affected one sector. One sector is not a galactic crisis. Where the SW universe handles galactic wide strategy. In Attack of the Clones, 10k planets jumped sides in the span of one CIS meeting. You, my friend, have fallen for fake news.

@@aegis0302 Well shit, I guess a Stormtrooper can literally deck a space marine with one blast if the books aren't canon then.

Too bad Disney scrapped the entire EU

Coruscant?

GamingWithMoses It would have to be rated R like if they did a Maul or Vader movie

At least they're gradually putting Eu things into cannon d

The battle that you mean is the battle of Corrusant. Or at that moment it is called Yuuzhan‘Tar. And yeah, it is very likely to be the biggest battle in the galactic History. Everyone united and fought against the Yuuzhan Vongh.

Could they make a moon fall on Chewie though?

I have a question. Could the Gravity well projectors be planet based, or placed in a death star? If so, would it have been possible to use such a thing in Helska space at the start of the invasion? If both are yes, I think it would have been an idea to fortify the hell out of the system, so that the only way the Vong would get through would be a long drawn out battle, turning Helska into Stalingrad.

The Empire had a reason to exist anyway. The acquisition of power is central to Sith philosophy. The Empire is the madness of a man who reaches the limits of mortal power *and wants more*. A morality play, if you will, about the dangers of obsession and unchecked rulers. The Empire doing what it did so it could save everyone from the Vong only exists as an explanation because someone forgot the Empire were explicitly coded as space-nazis and wanted to romanticise them. Don't get me wrong, the war is a great plot arch, but it's vindication of Creamy Sheev gave a hell of a lot of encouragement to the nutters in the fandom who thought the Empire were cool because they thought real fascists were cool. (That's not to say we can't think the Empire are cool, or that you must be a Nazi if you like them. They've got a great aesthetic and there's a lot of fun in how delightfully evil they are. We just have to remember that they are in fact evil.) Though I have to agree, Disney can absolutely shove it.

@@imnotbrian6316 do you truly know that the Rebels are really the “good guys” and not just a band of ruthless terrorists determined to wreck the galaxy? Rey’s parents were murdered by a rebel hit squad

@@Charlie94781 and what about the people on the death star THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE

@@imnotbrian6316 God is it annoying that the militarists can't deal with the idea that *gasp* the guys who promote and enable people like "blew up an inhabited planet" Tarkin, might, in fact be evil. Also they apparently have the moral views of a five year old, cause they can't get that, just because one side fights another side that is evil, the first side is not necessarily good. Maybe the Empire was militarizing to see of the YV, but Palpatine completely dropped the ball, since you need to tell people about a threat for them to unite against it. That and the idea of an extra galactic force, not from one of the dwarf galaxies would've been seen as far fetched since shit like that didn't happen. Nobody but Palps and his enabler, Thrawn, had any idea about the Vong, and so thought the emperor was mad with power. Then again, that's a Tuesday for Sith lords.

Do note in Legends there were theories and attempted rationalizations about Palpatine and his massive militarization. The general consensus is that Palpatine saw the Vong as a threat to his rule and we're just another "justification" for his Empire.

@@akumaking1 True, but to be honest an unified galaxy would have made a better adversary that said, the technology of the Vong was still better and he could have been wiser.

I feel that, with the political climate the way it is right now, you probably couldn't have had a Star Wars film featuring a complete galactic invasion by an alien species.

@@saxpackabs That's a really good point. It will just contribute to this real environment of fear, and that's everywhere.

@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 and considering the Star Wars films are for the most part aimed at kids. Imagine Trump's speeches if a popular children's film franchise were teaching them about galactic invasion.

Warmaster Horus: “Hey that's my line!" Abaddon: “Yeah mine too!" Horus: “Shut up and go back to the circle of disappointment Junior!"

Warmaster Horus: “Hey that's my line!" Abaddon: “Yeah mine too!" Horus: “Shut up and go back to the circle of disappointment Junior!"

@@lordfrostwind3151 XD I can fully believe, after 13 failures, Abbadon sulks in "The Circle of Disappointment."

Operation Cinder 2 lol

Empire and their everything arrive - new objective survive

That's not really an argument

Thing is, the sith don't give a shit about the life and well being of their allies. Kind of known for shooting themselves in the foot with that.

Except Vong also could take ships out of hyperdrive suddenly like an Interdictor Cruiser and the Death Star couldn't just appear right next to Yavin 4 out of hyperspace or the Rebellion stood no chance. Due to the Death Stars mass and size its nav computer mightn't allow for the fastest route via hyperdrive. DS Hyperdrive rating 4 ISD 2 - it's four time slower via hyperdrive and its sublight 20 ISD 60 X-Wing 100: 3X slower v the mainstay ISD - Vong would see it long before it was in firing range or in the system.

At this point, I think we safely *can* ignore the Sequel Trilogy as a bad fan fic.

@@andrewolson5471 True.

Actually the sequel trilogy is still completely valid for still setting up the Vong, think about it, Palpatine wasn’t killed until the battle of Exegol and he had thousands of Star Destroyer super weapons. The Vong would’ve still seen the militarization of the First and Final order as high threats, for rapid annexation of the Galaxy. Now that there exists zero militarized governments in the galaxy (post sequel trilogy) a Vong invasion is perfect.

@@citylightsish maybe, that's partly true, but it also completely forgot how The Force works.

Right villain isn't a sith it's a whole species cut off from the Force entirely

Another point to consider is that should the Empire see himself at the losing side what would prevent Palpatine from unleashing potentialy uncontrolable dark side powers that would lead to an even bigger catastrophe?

@@ilnigromante666 The Ssi-ruu attacked the Imperial world of Bakura immediately after the Battle of Endor, because Palpatine invited them to do so in return for access to their 'entechment' technology. Considering the role that fear played in Palpatine's control of the galaxy, be it fear of the Separatists, the Jedi, the Rebellion, of non-humans or all of the above, I think Palpatine would have allowed the Vong some initial successes so as to solidify his rule over the galaxy for years to come. Considering that Palpatine took action against those Imperials whose loyalty he questioned during Operation: Shadow Hand, and the generally limited knowledge of the force that the population of the Galaxy possessed, I could see him using the Vong invasion to showcase the full might of his darkside powers and Imperial military. He would probably shatter any hopes of a restoration of freedom or democracy in the process, as these would be permanently associated with the disasters of the Clone Wars and the Rebellion, while the threat of further horrors waiting in the unknown regions would make even contemplating a return to such values seem like pure insanity. Had Palpatine gotten his hands on Vong bio-technologies, and discovered how to manipulate life itself (on top of his master's manipulation of the midichlorians), the galaxy would become as warped by his darkside power as Byss...

After reading Dark Tide II Ruin, I have doubts that the Imperial Navy would have fared much better if it hadn't been reduced to what it had been. Thrawn and others like Zsinj probably would have dealt with the vong a little differently, but the problem still remained that the vong had outnumbered the Republic and Imperial Remnant forces tremendously and continued to build on to their analog count the further they pushed into the galaxy and claimed more star systems.

@@theduxabides9274 It's almost like Palpatine was a bad guy. What's next, Thrawn is only competent? No seriously, after reading OutBound Flight, Thrawn comes off as basically competent and nowhere near a genius. Part of that is that the Trade Federation ship was incredibly incompetent at programming their droids, such that, if they reached their max signal range, instead of patrolling there, or at least holding they would automatically turn around and fly back to the ship. With no override. So if an enemy hits you from outside the sensor bubble, your droids are going to be either stuck there, or, if ordered out, will turn around and fly back while being shot to pieces. That's a complete failure in programming and tactics, at least give them a rotating turret!

Indeed. I'll add that the Vong didn't have a word for "peace" either, only "submission to subjugation". It's like a lot of the inaction, hesitation, and collaboration in the NJO book series was just plot convenience and not very well thought out. Even if the galaxy handed over the Jedi, the best they can get is universal enslavement. Sure, the Vong could lie and deceive, but because their culture didn't have a concept of a good fate to the defeated, they couldn't have been this successful. So inaction, negotiation and collaboration shouldn't have made sense even if you hated the Jedi: many people would rather die than suffer that fate. If the authors wanted to have realistic collaborators and politicians negotiating with the Vong, they should have made the villains more nuanced. Like if the Vong merely wanted to conquer the galaxy as a new home for hundred of trillions of their people and would be willing to commit genocide, but only against those either technologically advanced enough to oppose them or living in the Core Worlds (where they intend to settle), you could make the case that as long as you live outside the Core, it's better to adopt the Amish lifestyle than die in a war that you're not likely to win.

amidst all of its other inefficiencies, the Empire's military is centered around intimidation and beat worlds into submission, basically outnumbering and/or overpowering weaker foes, I'm not so certain it would do well against a "roughly" equal force

Except that wouldn't be the case. The weakness the Death Star had was only accessible for someone with the Force, and as we all know, the Vong are all cut off from the Force.

@@HolyknightVader999 yet the second death star didn't require use of the force at all to destroy it. The death of Thrawn only required political maneuvering by Leia and subterfuge by his own Nogri bodyguard. Furthermore, the various admirals and warlords and even technicians to Palpatine and his cloning facilities had sabotaged his plans for their own gains. Lastly, the Vong had amassed hundreds if not thousands of comparable cruiser analogs for their conquest- the Imperial fleet at their height wouldn't have had nearly that number. The Battle of Fondor probably is your best argument considering Centerpoint Station was able to vaporize half the Vong fleet (and the quarters of the Hapan fleet) in a single shot, and yet the station was incapacitated shortly afterwards probably by agents of Nom Anor, and probably would have done the same thing to many other Imperial devices.

@@warzIbanez Not necessarily. The Second Death Star had the Emperor and his battle meditation guarding it. Had Vader not killed him, or had he not been distracted by Luke, he'd be able to guard against Nom Anor's agents. That, and the Imperial Navy was millions of warships at its height, whereas the Vong Fleet couldn't even defeat the weakened Alliance and Empire, so no, they were nowhere near the power level the Empire had before Endor. That, and the Yuuzhan Vong have no defense against A) the Emperor's Battle Meditation and B) the Death Star. Heck, just have Vader guard the Death Star and he'd sense disturbances in the Force if the Vong were up to something.

HolyknightVader999 Unless Vader developed ‘Vongsense’, he wouldn’t be able to detect anything, as no aspects of the force are effective on the vongs: not a push, not lightning, and they cannot be detected through the force either. Palpatine’s battle meditation would not work either. He could boost his own men, but forget about him impacting the vong with the force.

Then why'd he forget basic political lessons, like "If you're going to build a huge fleet and army, make sure to have a scary scapegoat to get people on your side." Also he lost to a relatively small and under equipped rebellion, in part due to planning for the next war. Not the greatest sign of political genius. Third Nom Anor would've had a field day with sewing dissent and rebellion on Imperial worlds.

The current canon is too much of a pile of rubbish to save. An ineffectual New Republic, and carboard characters we care nothing about.

@@Warhammered exactly, which is why they can basically trash everything the current trilogy has done, saying the actions of the current cast of characters put the entire galaxy in peril of annihilation. Thus the fans have a way to vent their anger out at the mary sue who would single handedly lead to the invasion.

The resistance are the only working government and so does some Imperials post Ensor after Episode 9, but I think the galaxy is screwed if the Yuuhan Vong appear. Unless Disney turns Rey into an Uber “all the Jedi” character.

DISNEY IS NOT FUCKING CANON!!!!- Little Kitten; Captain General of the Adeptus Custodies.

@@daswordofgork9823 Kitten speaks is The Emperor's Word. If he says Disney ain't canon, it ain't canon. All other claims are Heresy.

@@daswordofgork9823 Did somebody say "*BRAWN*"?

@@akumaking1 AYAYAYAYYYY

@@randomcenturion7264 Someone speak the heretical name of Disney?...

Han Solo is unreliable as a source of information

Jared Hite Agreed. Not to mention I feel like it makes Palpatine far more heroic/altruistic than he actually was. He was solely about himself. I mean, sure, you can argue that it was to his own benefit to make sure the Galaxy was safe from the Yuuzhan Vong, but still, I feel like trying to frame the militarization of the Empire as SOLELY being to defend against the Vong rather than keeping the galaxy as a police state to allow Sidious to focus on mastering the dark side and basically becoming God makes him far more noble than he is supposed to be (which... let’s be honest, he is not supposed to be noble at all)

It would make everyone panic

@@fightingfalcon777 THANK-YOU! Everyone seems to just ignore that, Palpatine only cares for things in the sense that they benefit him

It’s not a theory is legends

Its still not the reason Palpatine built up and militarized the Galaxy

Humanity is the only superior species

Yea In hindsight this would’ve definitely been better

I doubt Disney would make something like this because it'd either be watered down to be pg-13 or have to be R rated. I doubt Disney would make an R rated film.

@@Spyro757 theoretically it's not dumb. It's business strategy. If you have a pg-13 rated film you have a bigger audience than an R rated film.

Disney wouldn't want to pay the creators of those EU stories and their ideas. They're a billion dollar company, but greed when it comes to an IP is a powerful thing for them. They would have to share the glory, and in their view, their stories would take a back seat to the established EU. And Disney hates taking a back seat to anything. Although, - and this is my opinion - if they had agreed to share the lime light, it's possible their newly created characters interacting with the EU characters may have garnered more love from the fan base, because they'd be mixing the familiar with a spice of 'new' in just the right amount to make the viewer hopefully love the full picture.

Jonathan Ryan strongly disagree!!!!

Federation and Klingons, I'd bet my money on putting up a decent fight. The Romulans, not so sure, I think they might be something of a Paper Tiger. As for the Cardassians, they'd get butchered. And I love the Cardies, but even the most patriotic of them new they were small fish compared to the other powers of the Alpha Quadrant, which is why the shacked up with The Dominion. The Vong just have too many numbers and, quite frankly, a brutality that makes what they did on Bajor seem pleasant, to be able to fend them off.

They'd be wiped out. Star Trek ships' relatively slow FTL speeds alone mean that the Vong would have a huge advantage, allowing them to strike Trek worlds with impunity. I'm not a fan of Star Trek, so my knowledge is fairly limited, but I'm pretty sure that the territory of the major factions of that universe are all in a single quadrant of the galaxy, and the Federation has a few hundred to a few thousand worlds. The Vong brought the New Republic to its knees, and they had control of most of the Galaxy.

"Recycled"*

@@kingaragornii9940 - Actually *vomited up

You think the empire would just disappear after the battle of endorsement cmon man you're smarter than that

Warhammer 40K: Allow me to introduce myself.

@KneeHighNinja05 Ave Imperator!

Mandalorians: ...Amateurs.

Rimmy: And we're the Science Team!

True. Bar certain comic and anime related worlds, 40K is, in the words of a certain head-smashing Inquisitor, "Murder Heaven!"

Pfft, they don't even need to bring out the Space Marines. The Imperial Guard is already super fanatical on its own. They might consider fighting the Vong a 'break' from the more horrible things they are used to fighting...

Not really. Vong weapons can melt through armor while their armor laughs off lightsabers. Bolter fire and chain-axes would at most, tickle them. The Necrons are the faction which will give them pause, because they get PTSD over machines. But the Imperium? The Vong would rip them to shreds, especially since the people who wield bolters and chainaxes couldn't be more than 2 million.

@@HolyknightVader999 I have one question, what weapons are useful against wong if lightsabers are not?

@@hamsprovided9936 Disintegration weapons, anti-vehicle weapons, I do know Lando Calrissian manufactured an army of self-healing Yuuzhan Vong-hunter droids that look like Terminators armed with starfighter-level weapons such as blaster cannons to take out Vong warriors and vehicles.

So it would end after beating the Vong with an Empire ruled by the Senate (de-facto new republic) then? Could work.

@@Sorain1 I haven't thought about Episode IX in depth but that's the idea. Maybe having Luke say to Rey and Kylo that after the threat is eliminated, he wants to restore the Republic for good. Which they do after Luke's heroic death in the decisive battle. Or maybe just keeping an emperor with very limited powers, like the British monarchy, to avoid a blatant power vacuum.

@@Duke_of_Lorraine (If Princess Leia is still alive, I could buy an emperor/emperess with limited powers. If not, I don't see how that's viable.)

Oya!

Except the Mandalorians helped the Yuuzhan Vong at the start of the war. Also, the Alliance/Empire did most of the fighting while the Mandos betrayed the galaxy.

@@HolyknightVader999 Mandalorians only got in the vong war because they were attacked themselves, there may have been a few who were on planets that the vong conquered and as the best option was to join the vong (after all the vong did respect great warriors and would accept ones they concurred if the warrior survived the fight). Mando'ade aren't stupid and will take an offer that keeps them alive longer

@@themandalorian400 They're self-serving rascals that only fight for themselves for the highest bidder. No loyalty at all. Perhaps Lord Revan had the right idea.......

@Xander Smith If they had any honor, they wouldn't sign on with dishonorable factions in the first place. Also, they totally betrayed the Vong, so even that whole "honor because we were hired" is just bullshit.

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@E Fig: I think Vader would be busy on the front lines, so I think he wouldn’t even have time for stuff like that.

I do not think that Moffs and Grand Admirals would dare to rebell as long as Palps would have been in power. Remember, any Vong invasion would surely happen much later than the fall of the Empire, so Palps grip onto power would be even stronger. The Galaxy would in most cases know nothing other than his rule for 30, 40 years.

The power they seized would be worthless because the Vong would kill them anyway

Then rebel suppression gets spun from counter terrorism to defeating the enemy that is attempting to wipe out the galaxy. The rebels will be played up as Vong sympathisers in imperial propoganda.

Seriously. I just refuse to engage in anything Disney "canon".

@@dianabarnett6886 yes. That was totally my problem too. I hate it that now I can't simply enjoy Star Wars anymore, just scrolling through KZfaq and finding out new interesting facts about the world, cause I either come across someone hating on the Sequels (which gives me a bad mood reminding myself of their existence) or someone acknowledging them and making theories or some shit. I'm glad I regained hope that I might just be able to enjoy Star Wars again.

Dude, you're not the only one. I'm fine with watching the Disney focused content, but fuck if it's boring as shit and so uninspired. Legends, as wacky as it is, is just so much more enjoyable to watch about.

Szczypior I like some things Disney has done the anthology films and mando season 1 however whenever I hear the Star Wars sequels I feel hatred and I hate them because they’re bad and I’m sick of hearing about them I prefer the eu over the Disney sequels

It explains why the galaxy was in such sad state in the ST and why we were gifted with the slowest space(car) chase in VIII

The non-human worlds they wouldn't care at all if they were enslaved and invaded

You are a bold one

Would it though?

It would still need to be lead by somebody with extreme tactical skills, foresight, and no morals. You can’t win a war if you let morals get in the way of making the difficult decisions necessary for winning a war. Palpatine is the only known person in Star Wars canon that would fit that description. I’m not sure if it’s still canon or not, but in Return of the Jedi, the only reason Palpatine lost his ability to foresee the future, and therefore was unable to stop the Rebel victory and his (literal) fall at the hands of Anakin was because the spirits of Obi-Wan and Yoda clouded his connection to the force. Much like he and Plagueis clouded the Jedi Order’s vision during his rise to power. And his tactically stupid decision to announce his return to the whole galaxy in Rise of Skywalker was just the result of Disney’s lazy storytelling.

Gaius Wyrden yes. The Palpatine we see in the OT and sequels is NOT the same person that he was in the prequels. That’s why I consider the prequels the best in the saga as far as story telling is concerned. They end in a realistic manner and show Palpatine as the genius he really is. The other two trilogy make him look like an idiot for the sole purpose of giving the audience a happy ending to feel good about.

Wouldn't be the Empire without the sith

@@weik-2936 The Fel Empire was a empire without sith.

I don't think Disney is gonna produce an R rated film. And if they'd make a pg-13 rated film about that it would have to watered down and people would loose interest.

Overall yes but Palpy's foresight wouldn't have been as precise