Doja acts like she doesn’t care about anything or anyone’s opinions but it’s soooo obvious it’s all she thinks about.

Doja Cat is so funny to me because I think she resented the fans she got by not being edgy so she felt uncool and she decided to flip it, make her fans seem uncool instead for liking her in the first place, and now she’s doing this shallow dark shit that no one’s really buying

I don’t know, this may be an unpopular opinion, but she’s giving - 16 year old that starts wearing black lipstick, lots of eyeliner and storms into her room screaming “you don’t understand me MOM”. And then blares My Chemical Romance at 11 in her room. Basically she’s got Ebony Dementia Raven Way vibes.

"Balut signifies a bird being eaten alive" GHUUUURL... The bird inside the Balut is already dead. It's a boiled duck embryo.

I was telling my brother the other day, no matter what her songs will be on trending, everyone’s still using her songs for transitions

I don't mind her use of devil imagery at all, I think her costume on demons was amazing. I just think she's trying way too hard to fit a role. Saying she doesn't care and oooh she's the devil while complaining about her own fanbase and planning to make an entire song about comments she got on fawking twitter 😭😭😭😭 she's become kind of a joke at this point honestly, and this is coming from a longtime fan. I genuinely cannot take doja seriously no more

I think she's going through the 27s like when I was 27. i was feeling like I'm getting "old" while also feeling young? It made me depressed and questioned my path in life.

doja just gives me internalized misogynist-pick me girl vibes. and a superiority complex, not from her music but how she interacts with others

Balut is a fertilized developing egg embryo that is boiled or steamed and eaten from the shell. It is commonly sold as street food most notably in the Philippines, Cambodia and Vietnam. Pronounced Bal-oot.

I loved her fun music. Now it feels like she is trying to be #deep but shes too shallow. She was doing a better job and making people happier than she is now. Shes gotten into her own head and thinks shes a genius

YES! You just said what I've been thinking all along, her "satanic" ways and imagery is all just to grab some attention and be the talk of the town, sometimes it's even hilarious to me, like that reference you made to the 5 year old dressing for halloween. Just like that.

Doja cat is a bonafide edge lord. Sigh.

Doja is lowkey having a Kanye moment... 💀

Use to love her as well, her music was fun and lighthearted. She's very talented and it's a shame that she has a very bad and off putting personality and choose to hang out with and date terrible people. She also loves to deflect and make the main topic of a conversation into something else...this didnt start out about fandom, which is an important conversation, but she truly said she dont gaf about dating predator and blocked victims. Idk why there's a need some feel to listen to her when so many other artists do make lighthearted and fun music too. And that "change" to her music that she called her fans dumb for liking, never even came. It still sounds the same. She's not hard to NOT listen to at all

Doja is just not good at criticism. The whole reason why she went off into this weird esoteric era is because of the years of criticism of her music, and the whole rant about fans started when they talked badly about her boyfriend.

these are just my thoughts Im goth and i love all things morbid and disturbing personally, im not really scared of the imagery she makes but it feels forced and it doesn't feel genuine Perfect summaries: Party City and Edgy teenager trying too hard Her songs before were fun but had thought and care put behind it they always stuck out and stayed with you my fav album from her is Planet Her hands down Even though she has a message to share with her current songs i think they fall flat yes they are catchy but it always feels like its missing something Also i think we can all agree: never explain your next move and dont over explain your work this is what Doja Cat needs to work on sis is struggling creatively

doja's new era in a nutshell: "OOoooooh she's DiFfEreNt :o"

Not a huge talking point about Doja, but just a fashion/style thing in general lol...I feel like the edgy "satanic" thing is really overdone right now. Like there are so many artists who've done it already, so the shock value is kind of just gone now? Like it's really not actually that different anymore. When newer artists try it, it feels like they're trying to be different and cool but it just makes me bored. That's just my 2 cents. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

as someone who follows a lot of SEA food content creators, balut is not a bird eaten alive… it feels weird that she used the name of this dish and phrased the “meaning of her song” like that.

Honestly don't think this lady deserves this much analysis.

I think your opinion fits perfectly of what’s going on here and why so many are put off by her. Also I want to add - she’s coming off very ungrateful, to me. By telling everyone that her prior songs were just cash grabs and meaningless. Obviously those songs had a lot of meaning to a lot of people. And meaning can lie in a lot more ways than just lyrically. Most of the time it’s a memory/time and place that people associate with that song. Doja beat the odds by becoming a huge music star; she achieved what so many never will, even if they are equally as talented as Doja Cat. Her shitting on it all now feels very ignorant.

I feel like I can somewhat relate to Doja on an artistic level. I'm an illustrator myself, and I've always identified with spooky and dark themes. However, during my time in university and while freelancing, I frequently found myself creating bright, minimalist, and flat graphics. Surprisingly, these pieces garnered more popularity than my "authentic art style." Over time, more people began associating me exclusively with these bright, nothing like me illustrations, and it reached a point where I started disliking my own art. My artistic persona became so disconnected from my true self, which caused something similar to personal crisis.

It is just shock factor bs. And it is tiring and also not original.

I really think she's playing the overly edgy card for the sake of controversy just to attract new eyes. The fit is giving alt Barbie. Love it.

I feel like this was all just a “love” letter (more like hate letter) to her fans. And she’s behaving like a nepo baby by not acknowledging that she’s where she is in major part because of her fans. No one is saying she hasn’t gotten where she is because of her talent. But without an audience supporting her she would not have all this money now. Either she’s pretending she doesn’t understand or actually doesn’t understand that when her fans say they love her and wish she’d go back to saying she loves them, they don’t mean literally. They just want to be appreciated and they appreciate her. Just swap out “love” for “appreciate” and everything would be fine but she wants to be an entitled brat.

Maybe in America Sanatic panic hits different. Here in Europe its kinda nothing. Maybe in some regions ofSpain or Italy might be shocking, but I personally think she just looks for reactions. Her music stills sounds the same like the previous album.

During quarantine she was all up in everyone's face trying to be the "relatable girly" and now she can't stand her fans? It's so tiring

I love Doja Cat but what I don't like about this new music is that she is clapping back at the most negative part of her audience instead of focusing on creating something. Her music is a Twitter comment basically and it's just boring. We already had Taylot Swift do that and it was boring too. Like just make art, stop having a back and forth with the fans through your songs...

You look like a christmas present. In a good way

“Balut” is cooked fertilized duck egg that’s a very popular dish from the Philippines. It’s very controversial since eggs are almost always eaten unfertilized in other places & it looks pretty disturbing, though my filipina mom said the embryo can’t feel pain when it’s being cooked. Now, I’m very skeptical of the idea of cultural appropriation, but her saying that her song “signifies a bird that’s being eaten alive” rubs me the wrong way. Balut is NOT eaten alive, so her misunderstanding that for no reason feels like she’s just doing it for shock value. Perhaps she just wants to rile up pinoys because she made it seem like they eat live ducklings by her wording? Tbh I have a hunch that she’s trying to emulate Melanie Martinez by drastically changing up her image in her next album with the presence of a lot of non-Christian themes. Melanie’s newest album seems to have a lot of pagan spirituality in it, so maybe Doja’s trying to one up her with using satanic imagery? Some more extreme fans of Mel will say that you’re not a “real fan” if you don’t like her new stuff & Doja might want that kind of exclusivity for herself. I could just be connecting the two in this case because I’m a longtime fan of Melanie who’s stuck around after her style change, but I think it’s weird how some people try to gate-keep her music. Edit: I’m an agnostic witch (still figuring it out) but I’m not a fan of Doja. I just wanted to add that because it was mentioned at the end that other pagans/wiccans/satanists don’t like her either lol

I agree 100% and also, totally cracked up at the "HelloOo, did you see this? This is totally creepy!" 😂 P.S. your outfit is lovely and very pretty on you, and I feel like you should do a mini photoshoot with a fancy teaset at dusk sitting under a slightly spooky old tree with multicolor lanterns, the juxtoposition of cute and eerie would be so good ❤

Hi just another athiest millenial chuckling at the 80s/90s revival who remembers the satanic panic and edgy teens very well. I agree Guilia, doja is in her very yawn and eyeroll level of early 2000s hot topic edginess era. Thanks Guilia, I'm never not ready to glare lol. On a funny side note: in 3rd grade, I dressed up as the devil for my catholic school's halloween party and that's the sort of vibe I'm getting. PS love the pastel goth look today 🩷🖤

She lost me when she started dating the man who put my friends and I through hell for years.

her attitude and her life i couldn't care less about. i love her new music. and i think she's been putting out good looks. nuff said for me.

Lots of artists go through different eras-see how the likes of The Weeknd and Taylor Swift have evolved and changed their sound over time. Yet they have still retained huge fan bases. Hell, The Weeknd character is retiring after his next album, yet the majority of his fan base are excited/here for the change. I feel like no one would have an issue with Doja’s new album/devil era if she hadn’t belittled her audience and showed no respect to her fans in the process. Her behaviour is so entitled and preachy, she’s driving people away then using her loss of audience to say ‘oh they don’t like rap/they don’t like my new sound’ when the reality is it’s her behaviour. And to be frank, she’s not as deep as she thinks she is. (I also think the ‘balut’ post might have been a joke/meme….but no one can tell these days with her)

We’re here for this fit

Feel the like dress totally fits! Feel like if Doja hadn’t taken this turn her look would have worked perfectly w the Barbie movie. Missed opportunity imo - so its interesting you’re bringing the “(Hot) Pink” look Doja’s trying to abandon so much.

She always made songs from her own experiences and emotion, and i really connected to that. She's going through a tough period in her life obviously, and there's nothing wrong with that. Also, she is absolutely right about how ridiculous parasocial relationships are. I don't expect her ot 'love' me, all i want for her is to keep making music so i can listen to it and it makes me happy. Also i agree with the demon thing, she is obviusly refrencing the song and it's meaning, it's not that deep lol.

I think it's also ironic she claims her fans don't see her as a real person, when she talks about her fans as if they're all one giant mass of blurry faces that don't think or speak if it's not about her. Like the people you're shitting on and treating like little minions are all real people with lives outside of listening to a few of your songs throughout the day. You can't criticize people for the same shit you do??

Ill be honest…… weve been letting fans in general become too obsessed with actors and musicians for way too long. Since back in the fifties…….. its out of hand. The musician isn’t our slave and they don’t have to answer to us. We need to accept that.

Her new album and her jaded attitude aren't appropriate responses to merely having social media beef with trolls and young fans. It's overkill and embarrassing. She comes across extremely entitled and ungrateful when trying to diss the people who enjoy(ed) her previous music. It sucks she became so lame, but oh well. 🤷🏻‍♀️

That music video is creepy AF and just trying too hard to be ‘edgy.’

Love the pink hair 💕💕

I just think it’s funny how she talked so much shit about her other stuff as pop music…..but this new stuff is still pop lol nothing close to rap 😂

I find it really interesting you mentioned the part about how the song could still have meaning for people. Some of her songs make me really happy and give me so much needed dopamine and serotine. But oh well one man's trash is another ones treasure

I like Gulia’s outfit!!

She’s lost over a million insta subscribers at this point. The social blade is v interesting.

i wish ppl would just hate her bc she’s dating an alleged predator lol i’ve heard she tried paying off the girls talking about it

I’ve been waiting for someone to cover this!! Thank youuu 🖤

I think it would be very beneficial for her to seek out therapy instead of attacking random people and fans. Being in the public eye comes at a cost and I hope she finds a proper way to deal with it

nobody said she had to like her fans but respect should be given because,you know,it's polite.But she's proven she doesn't care about anyone but herself.

I like the new stuff 🤷🏻‍♀️ excited for the album to drop. Social media can be so unhealthy and all-consuming so I think it’s pretty based that she’s shedding subscribers and parasocial weirdos. Celebrities don’t owe their fans anything. You can listen if you want, don’t if you don’t want to.

Can I just say you look SOOOOO cute with the pink aesthetic. As a dark clothes wearing person, I sometimes want to dress like this too lol

I have to admit the video for "Demons" is truly epic! especially since it features similar sets to the original 1982 classic, Poltergeist!

I defended her… when people were going for how she was changing her style. Because she IS a person and she’s allowed to do what she wants to her own body. The reaction was obnoxious. But how she has begun to treat her fans who ARE backing her still is disgusting.

girl when you were talking about the movies that still mean so much to you I know exactly what you mean, lmfao I've been watching "never been kissed" for 20 years !!!!

Bring back intro 😢

Ah yes, I remember all this. I hate how she's disrespecting fans, I understand fans don't have to be owed anything by their artists but she's being meanspirited and tries to be like, "It's my alter ego Scarlett you guys!" I mean, the whole Satanic Panic thing she's doing is totally edgy teenage vibes, if she wants to do what she wants fine but also making fans feel stupid and it hurts so bad she's losing fans.

Im a new doja fan honestly. her new songs actually have such a big message and it comes through pretty easy.. being famous is shit and eveyrone criticized you for every little thing that they do. You have to walk on eggshells because one fan always takes things wrong. Celeberties lives are held hostage. That’s the message I got. She’s playing on everyone calling her the devil. I always used to see her get criticized for everything and obviously now she’s at her breaking point.

I'm so glad you spoke on this. Basically Doja deserves no praise at this time in life. She's come this far just to be a complete prick to the ones that bought her albums, hence making her relevant. It's gross and childish. She's dazed and confused, and is only feeding off negativity, creating more negativity.

Hey guys, she’s just not like the other girls. It’s giving poser energy. But seriously, saying the music I enjoy, that was made by you, is meaningless, makes me feel stupid. How she acts with her fans (and I am not talking about setting boundaries, it’s the talking down to people) is just so insulting. So now I skip her songs when they pop up on playlist, I deleted her channels from my radio apps, I won’t be giving her another chance if she just wants to talk to down to us normies.

the fans who would've enjoyed this era have mostly left, me included lol. i don't mind when artists take a change in direction, i listen to a lot of music and i'll get it a fair chance. but when you attack your fans because they raised critique (and lied making it seem like it's about parasocial relationships or complaining about her style) that's a problem. like why lie? idc if you shave your head and go for a gimmicky halloween creepy look. if you switch to all rap. but i don't take disrespect so yeah i don't even bother. and from what i've heard with paint the town red, it sounds just like her older music too. also, i'm really curious with what new fans she is gaining. she might over time. but i don't think there will be any loyalty. so far the only people i see rooting for her are the "anti- woke" movement because she's shifted gears to that. but that can only last so long. she's going to have to completely shift to that essentially or wait for people to forget. but it also depends how forgiving people are to women in media, which isn't much (esp woc). this is all to see years down the line. i feel like she's just very insecure about the pop/tiktok brand she gained, not realizing that was making her one of the biggest stars. which she might not want, so we will see

Shes one of those famous people that i feel just showed up out of nowhere. I still have literally never heard a song by her before, and fr awhile didnt even know she was a music artist.

You look so beautiful in all your moods. To be honest I don't really listen to Doja Cat's music like that but I've got to say, I really like the artistry of her latest music videos.

You look adorable gc!! Love the pink on you 🩷

I blocked her on my Spotify, I was a regular fan of music for maybe 6 ish years, never followed her too heavily, side eyed her bullying the cosmetic surgery youtuber, the chat rooms but MOSTLY her behavior insulting her fans and being mean to them.

Doja from what I understand started making music in and around edgy KZfaq, maybe like 2013-2017 ish. She's definitely made stuff before but from what I've heard that's where it started. She initially started out pretty unconventional, a different character, a meme, etc and loved that sorta internet-core thing. She then got her hits around 2019-2020, became more worldwide and radio famous, was probably under stricter mgmt for publicity and public image reasons also hence why she kinda refused a one point to acknowledge her much earlier work while she was in that era of her life. I think this is her lashing out in a way that probably would've been more accepted on reddit, earlier days of KZfaq, earlier online forums etc, places she's come from and maybe can't accept and won't accept that people move on from that stuff. Those who were in that earlier era with her have probably moved on with their lives, aren't as internet focused anymore as most of us aren't. I certainly know I don't identify with who I was when I was younger and what I was liking on sites etc, we move on, we grow up, she very clearly hasn't. She's making a stupid attempt at being edgy in a way everyone knew how to back then as it's what garnered attention, through image. But, her music isn't reflecting it at all ironically, which is what I have an issue with but I don't truly care at the end of the day. If she went onto a more heavy sounding project to match her image or even went back to that edgy internet core stuff, it would make more sense, suddenly image and such wouldn't have to have such a stark difference. But really, at the end of the day, I think she knows with how fast the internet moves now, she's washing up a little and is just trying to stay relevant somehow, just in a very pathetic and childish way ://

Doja doesn't put me off. Until she retires from the industry....she's like the most talented, highly paid troll there is.

🤩🤩 Womyn, I am LIVING for this look. Ohh, you should wear BarbieCore so much more 😁🎀

You look so pretty!

(in an astrology theory) when someone turns 27/28, saturn returns into your life. major changes usually happen. this may be what is happening to her

the points you made were toooooooo valid. had to subscribe just for that.

her alienation of people started with her bad attitude to Paraguayan people, in LATAM most of us remember her rudeness and her demands with workers on the venues she occupied (during a heavy storm mind you) like "no eye contact with her" to the airport workers and "no addressing her vocally" to the bar's workers. she has been doing this and her fans excusing it with her being a troll for a long time now, it's not really ok to pass rudeness as joking. especially when she's enabled such heavy xenophobia to LATAM people.

We will always support you abe your channel. Great insights as always.

I agree the confusion is because her message isn’t clear. I think back to my 27 year old self and I was a contrarian and proud to be so. I was also strong in my convictions while thinking I was “open minded”. She’s going through what most do and that’s figure herself and life out. These thoughts change all the time. If she wants to alienate here fans while doing so the only one who gets hurt is her. I think similarly about Azalea Banks. She has alienated a lot of people by simply being contradictory in her actions and words. I do wonder about the pressures these women go through. I can’t possibly know it but I can recognize the signs of trauma. Great conversation!

off topic but i love the pink look for today! you look fab

I'm into her transition 💁🏻‍♂️

But you're famous because of your fans ( cue eye roll). Saying that she's so glad of "shedding A large beast" is so ungrateful.

Good for her. I, for one, am a bit of a creative person and I'm also rather private about it and when I show others and the response is overwhelmingly positive, it can sometimes backfire. Like it will make me question everything. Because in my heart of hearts, I think what I've done is maybe the start of something good, or has potential--and others who decide they "love" a certain way you write or the type of stuff you make sort of hold you back with their expectations, even if they don't mean to. So yeah whatevs I like some of her music I don't know her She seems like she might be likeable in small doses But that she's probably one of those "everything is always about me" kind of people (like many people in the industry)

The beat for demons was made to stress u out just like jaws or other horror movie songs so it makes sense

What I hate about this cringy doja cat era is that the majority of people are annoyed by her attitude towards others and she pretends that we're upsed because of the devil shit. Of course a lot of people were upset by that, but most of the constructive criticism is totally valid and completely being ignored. She's acting like a rebellious 12 year old

None of these artists owe us anything and they don't even know us. She told a harsh truth and our fragile feelings were hurt. We don't owe them anything at all, either. Including our time and money. This is why ppl shouldn't idolize Celebs. They're just effed up, horrible human beings like a lot of us are. Why hold them up on a pedestal. Listen or don't. We have the power in this situation. If we stop listening & taking about her then she'll be back to making silly beats & being a pick-me on tiny chat. But that won't happen for we love to be outraged, to complain, & reprimand ppl who we'll never come in contact with besides para socially & maybe in some of our dreams. Her songs today sound the same as her others. What she's doing is getting ppl to pay more attention. Unfollowing someone while still watching and getting tix is weird

She is a great rapper, truly. Cray, cray but good. 😊 I do like your take on the situation, though.

Tbh I don't know much about her or her music, but I found her older album Hot Pink recently and, just like you, I've been listening to it a lot because it's fun, easy, and lighthearted. I'm going through a tough time and honestly it's been really helpful to just tune out to and enjoy. It's a shame hearing her disregard it now. Her shift seems to tie in to a deeper belief that things must be dark or deep to be perceived as meaningful/important. (Also, love the dress!)

I love when you throw in Italian!!!

she got famous by singing, "moo" which was her best song sooo, yeah her fans made her famous js.

I can relate to that. My music tastes shifted a little while i was in college because upbeat, vibrant dance music helped me study and write papers.

I mean she gotta a point about the parasocial fans, like seriously. The pushback towards fans that wants to control her life is so similar to twitch streamers that gets weird parasocial andy, like content creators doesnt know who we are but parasocial andy feels like theyre bestie. I think while doja is abrasive, but also imo ppl are overreacting and over scruntinize her esp as a female artist. Although i dont understand about the song as much, havent hear her songs for sometime

I don't love her behavior lately, but I like her new music and creative direction. I think that's life sometimes tbh.

I just ignore her now. No reaction is worse than a negative reaction 😂

This is unrelated but, this video really made me smile, like just seeing you with this energy

Personally I kinda like Doja and her new creepy era. I also like her song Demons. I've always been a fan of creepy stuff. But if I'm being honest, I feel like Doja and many other artists are using a lot creepy/devilish themes lately for no particular reason. Like they just wanna be edgy and shocking. I'm gonna use Lil Nas X for an example because I feel like this recent wave of music with devil themes started after his Montero video. When he used Satanic Imagery/themes it was for a purpose. It was to comment on Christians saying that being gay is a sin etc. But with Doja's new music I don't see the reason for demonic themes. It's like she's using it for the soul purpose of being a rebel.

This look looks stunning on Gulia💕loving the Barbie dress and the wig

Love the outfit :)

doja is what happens when you tryhard. i do feel, deep down, doja is legit weird, but i honestly think she saw kanye’s hard left turn, and decided to try it out for herself.

Doja: I dont care what you think about my personal life, decisions, style, or the way that I treat others now that my pockets are full. Damn. Too bad you kind of need people to like you to keep that status

I'm gonna add this, it's not linked to her behavior directly nor it's a comment of approval/disapproval; I think a "positive" of all of this is that it's a reminder that celebrities are their own people and should not be idealized/idolized. There is a worrying tendency imo to create fandoms that almost worship celebrity X, and I think doja was like a cold shower for a lot of people. Now I'll admit that a lot of her fans were probably very young and a 13 yo idolizing someone famous is nothing new. And I'll also admit if you do all of this by being a massive b1tch to everyone you kinda start losing the "positive" effects of "celebrities are people" and you're starting to pass the message of "doja is mean unlike other celebrities so we should idolize others more!". I hope I made myself clear, but I'm not quite sure about it.

Doja cat is insufferable her and her very creep boyfriend(he didn’t just bully people) are off. But doja has a lot of deep rooted hatred for herself and wants attention but claims she doesn’t. She reminds me of 14 year old going through the growths of life. She dates bad people, says she hates everyone, does questionable things on the internet, makes crappy music, and wants love but the next day tells everyone to leave her alone.

The funny thing is, I didn’t even know who she was until now. I guess I’m way out of step with pop culture. I think there’s a problem with pseudo intellectualism now because being considered learned is somehow negative these days. Educational standards in the US have declined drastically over the years, and I don’t see it getting better anytime soon. So people can’t form cogent arguments and just say whatever 30 second sound bite they can muster. I have no expectation it’ll get better, at least not while we have fascist politicians burning books and removing entire chunks of science and language arts from public schools.

HI BARBIE 👋🏻 I love the outfit!! ❤