“I like when taboos get broken “- the monk

Garnt's whole argument is basically: "My kink is toxic relationships but not toxic enough to ruin a life just the right amount to get you on a list"

Connor, you would be surprised at how many mothers who blame their daughters for being sexually assaulted by their fathers. It’s a common thing for mothers to either not believe or blame the kids, because they don’t want to believe that their partner is a terrible person. It’s really sad

Connor has now doubled the amount of books he has ever read.

Grant: "Its not the incest!" Narrator: "It was, in fact, the incest"

Finally Connor is going to get over his fear of still images

“Brother sister. Teacher student. That’s hot.” Garnt. Domestic girlfriend in a nutshell. Wow it all makes sense.

Now that Joey and Garnt have recommended Connor doujins, I want a trash taste episode where Connor recommends BL to Joey and Garnt and they review them.

Trash taste during their anime episode: *insulting each other’s taste in anime* Trash taste when talking about doujins: *complimenting and agreeing each other on their taste*

The only child in Garnt’s really showing in the episode.

“Vanilla is the minority of hentai that we get now.” Yes Connor, yes. It’s so hard to find good vanilla hentai. 😔

About metamorphosis, as someone who has worked in Osaka clubs for 15 years and been everyone in namba’s midnight therapist. Every single situation with that girl in the doujin is not only possible, it’s extremely common, sex with dad when he’s drunk and down, mom blaming the daughter, group of guys ion highschool blackmailing a girl for sex by catching her doing hotel runs, literally everything in that happens a lot in Japan

Connor hates lolies, Garnt hates Shotas and Joey enjoys both.

Garnt realizing Sydney is an NTR fan was hilarious.

I’m glad Connor and the bois had such wholesome childhoods that none of them know a girl who got blamed for her own molestation. Sadly, most kids I know of who got abused, sexually or physically, were blamed instead of the abuser.

I think Connor, in regards to Metamorphosis, underestimates just how real that journey actually is. That's a large part of why it's so fucked up. One of my childhood friends had a journey almost mirroring Metamorphosis, so I never thought it felt 'forced' or unrealistic in any way, because I've literally seen it happen with my own two eyes.

I bet this is Joey and Garnt's condition for playing Apex

When connor asked how they found the 200 page ones and i said instinctively 'cuz those are the best ones' in my head, only to hear joey and garnt say the same thing, i fuckin busted out laughing

The sad thing is that mother’s blaming their daughters rather than the father happens a lot more than people think

Regarding the metamorphosis discussion, sadly in a lot of instances where daughters get sexually abused by their mothers partners, the mother will blame her for seducing the man and stick by him. That was a depressingly realistic part of the doujin

Next step of Connor's downward spiral: Let Sydney recommend her "hardcore" doujinshi. Pretty sure he won't be the same after that.

for the situation of mom's blaming their daughters for fathers being abusive: you'd be surprised how common it is for moms to do this. it was certainly the case for my mom, my grandmother blamed my mom for her abuse at the hands of my grandfather.

Funny how Connor instantly assumed Garnt for choosing the “incest” doujin when one of Joey’s favorite guilty pleasure anime is Kiss x Sis.

The ending was the the hardest hitting part. The reason why the josuke ending is such a good remedy is because it makes the hallucination be true.

If Garnt ever moves to America he’ll definitely live in Alabama

Garnt wearing his fiance's merch on the spicy doujin episode is incredibly wholesome for some reason.

2:04:04 that's... normally what happens... It's an extremely messed up thing that happens in abusive families, blaming of the victim or an outside influence rather than the abuser themselves. Wish you were right on that one Connor.

Connor: I hate cut scenes, let me skip to the action. Also Connor: WHATS GOING ON WHERE IS THE BACK STORY

"Is there a genre where you shout at the wedding ,NO stop the marraige!" ,yes conner its called bollywood shows .

The real fucked up part of this is that they didn't talk about the jojo ending for metamorphosis

The biggest draw to doujin, is how much detail they put into the drawings. You'll never see an animation with this much attention to detail in expressions, line work, and positioning. It's so good

That pregnant step scene in metamorphosis is probably one of the most disturbing things I've seen I'm my time

Joey: lolicon Garnt: siscon Connor: mothercon Perfectly degenerate, as all weebs should be

My goodness. They're drinking Pekora juice while talking about doujin.

This episode is just Garnt describing how much he likes Domestic Girlfriend without saying he likes Domestic Girlfriend. 51:20

Metamorphosis was so tragically sad, mainly because it was pretty realistic of what can happen for some unfortunate people in the real world.

The whole theme of this podcast: GAMER CUP!

Oh no, how could you force the monkey to look at not moving "cultured"?

Metamorphosis may not be realistic, but I think Connor is understimating what a lot of the victims of human trafficking go through.

I can feel that feeling Garnt was talking about, like the scenes from Metamorphosis without the context of the main characters life would be very hot to me. But its hard to not realize that all of the people who took advantage of her was not okay. I definitely see myself in her story. I used to be a naive person who got taken advantage of and if I met a guy like the one she did I could have been steered in a similar way. Its a scary reality for people.

This isn’t connor, the real connor goes straight to the action and skips all the bullshit

Top-Tier Hentai: *adds one singular loli in one page* Connor: "We were on the verge of greatness! We were _this_ close!"

garnt saying he's not into incest radiates the same energy as markiplier denying that he's a masochist just saving this for a laugh 1:25:00

Joey just looks so happy, I think this is the happiest he's been on this and I can see why, this is amazing.

Next one will be erogames but grant will choose fate as an excuse to talk about fate for the next 3 hours

About the fact that stuff like the story in Metamorphosis happening in real life, I was talking about hentai and doujin with a lady friend who never heard of it. She went to read it while on discord together and I was just farming in a MMO, waiting for her reaction. And then she starts talking, I feel that something isn't right. She was very cold about it and said that it's good that this kind of story exists because... she actually went through something similar, especially the "drugs and sold around for sex part" and "family makes things worse". She didn't go too far into details and I didn't ask. The guy of that time is now in prison and she lives in another country to keep distance from her family. I never felt worse about recommending anything to anyone.

The thing that constantly dragged me down with Metamorphosis, every time things looked up for her, it got worse. The final gut punch was the robbery

bro youtube needs more of these kinds of videos... i mean i was litterally rewatching closing shift or whatever weird stalker game the coffee serving woman game connor was playing where he was the woman being stalked except the first time i watched from another youtuber... anyway i was being bored with rewatching and then i wanna see what video youtube recommending next and they recommend about doujin trashtalking. really made my day

The MCU does have a recurring character in every movie: Stan Lee.

you guys didn't mention the Jojo ending of metamorphosis. that needs to be talked about

Good thing Garnt is an only child judging by the amount times he defends incest in the stories.

Ok, I didn't want the spoilers so I first read all the doujins they mentioned. It took a while, but I finally made it. Great episode! Very cultured 😁

After an official interview, they drop this... not gona lie, the boys are courageous.

"Watching adult anime for the story" Let's be honest, that's the main purpose of adult anime in the first place, the great writing.

Whenever I'm sad, you guys just make me laugh so hard, so much, it always makes me feel better. You guys are the best.

“If she’s not blood related, she’s free to be dated” -Gigguk

I can't believe they didn't tell him about The Metamorphosis JOJO ending...

The fact that Connor likes danger in his hentai while also chromecasting his hentai just goes together so well.

СНГ опять показала своё доминирование, за вас культурные граждане

I know its "trash taste", but I didnt expect their threshold for art quality to be so low.

Joey: Quantity Garnt: Taboos Connor: A Challenge There was an idea... to create a team of extraordinary individuals...

Connor pressing "X" to doubt the reality where a mother blames her daughter for "seducing" the father speaks volumes about how innocent he is as a person.

1:25:11 The Older Sister Experience for a Week (the good part of the doujin they’re talking about here) is 100% one of my favorites if not my absolute favorite of all time. It also has a sequel which is pretty god tier as well.

Connor's feeling about Saki's downward spiral really bothers me. It is so realistic. When things go bad, they go worse and worse. Is it scarily realistic. You have to know to know...

Unfortunately quite a lot of abused wives will blame, or ignore a daughter that's a victim of sexual abuse. It's shockingly common.

'Hey guys, look, we're on this nice, prim and proper interview online!" 1 Day Later: "Hey guys, ITS ANOTHER PORN EPISODE!"

46:23 is probably the highlight of the episode for me 😂 Just Connors face as he stares at the camera 😭

Ngl I think we need a bl episode where Connor recommends some bl to the bois

2nd doujin. Succubus are integrated and almost everyone has a bit of succubus blood in them. Interspecies Reviewers fans: "wait a minute"

Alternate Title: Connor conquer his fears of images

Metamorphosis was my first doujin, it took me two years to get back into doujins.

We need a sequel to this episode where Connor recommends his top tier yaoi lmaoo

I love how Connor actually cares about the story and actually remember them.

I can guarantee you that there are mothers who blame the daughter, it's sick, but in real life that's actually disturbingly common.

“Kirino and Kyousuke aren’t actually blood-related.” No no, they definitely are lol.

I keep coming back to this vid man I miss this

When the boys talk about hentai they act like they are peace talkers, the moment food gets brought up it becomes chaos

Connor: Complains how doujins escalate quickly Also Connor: Likes to skip to the gameplay

Regarding Vanilla doujins, I highly recommend doujins by Herio. Most of them are really wholesome and, of the ones translated to English, only one has an objectionable tag (one is labelled as Shotacon). Arguably one of their the most famous works is 267270 (aka Virgin Chauwa) which became famous for the “my technique might be too much for a virgin like you” meme. The 3 latest ones as of this comment’s original posting are also really good and when read together can leave a warm feeling to readers.

I feel like people are missing the point of the criticism of Metamorphosis as unrealistic. They admit that these situations do exist in real life. The criticism lies in the portrayal of the story. The story itself does seem to be misery for the sake of misery and forced because it doesn’t have the depth that it should. Metamorphosis isn’t dismissed because the premise is unrealistic. It is dismissed because the execution was unrealistic and lacking, at least to my understanding.

Ninja when reading a doujin: "im not seeing enough movement"

This is the quietest I’ve seen Joey in a whole episode, just leaning back stepping down to the audience and enjoying the spirited debate.

Connor and Garnt not realising that what makes Metaphorphosis so disturbing is the realistic part of it even though it is fiction! And when Joey said that's cause you aren't a chick is very true

Love that I am rewatching this and I ended up pausing the video for a few hours, just to come back to 33:02

Connor proving he's somehow too pure. He's unaware of how often the children are blamed for the abuse they suffer from parents.

Why METAMORPHOSIS feels more fucked than more extreme doujins: -Some level of characterization (Saki wanted approval--> changed herself--> naïve and needs parental guidance--> misguided) That's already way above many typical cutout girls in doujins that's drawn straight for fapping purposes. -The fetishes were portrayed more realistically: --> The effects of drugs were more gradual than the magic aphrodisiac in hentai. You see the process and reasons of Hayato and it becomes more personal than just fetish material. -Her promiscuity has social ramifications. --> She lost friends because of the rumors. Some even earlier because they got jealous of her looks but now they finally found dirt on her. --> The delinquents took advantage by blackmailing. The gangbang isn't just erotica anymore. It's a show that she's been outed by the top of the school's hierarchy. --> As you know in Japan, shit can get toxic and that's being pointed out. Even if some people wanted to help, they don't want to get under fire so they just look away when Saki saw her table drawn with graffiti. --> Her father sees her mother's younger self through her--> Abuses her--> mother exiles her. A case of parental abuse and familial hierarchy (the father does no wrong, which is still prevalent in the majority of SEA) --> By the end, she wanders the streets as a beggar which isn't good in a society like Japan. -The subject matter --> We've all seen someone lose themselves to drugs or poverty, so the topic already knocks more on reality than any wacky tags you can think of. Even though prostitution is a common fantasy in porn, this doujin really emphasizes on the psychological side that even if you try to distort your brain to get horny by the imagery (evident by post-nut clarity memes) the self-loathing and insecurities of Saki overwhelms you because it's easy to imagine falling in her place. I get reminded that I was lucky enough that I didn't take drugs or have people that cares in whatever I do and if I'm fucking it all up. Not everyone has that and that's what I get out of this doujin instead of all the fetish material. Additionally: - ShindoL isn't exactly the brightest person (so I don't think he's that deep) and just like Connor pointed out, Metamorphosis is not the most realistic or that there are other media that do the topic better. It's the fact that it's a doujin. Documentaries about prostitutes won't show the on-goings of that industry but pornographic comics can. And the fact that it's pornographic material is what messes with your brain. Doujins are drawn for fapping purposes so when ShindoL flipped that script, that doesn't stop the drawing from being sexually attractive. He basically makes the reader an active part of the story unlike watching a documentary or movie where you can get sad sure, but at the end of the day you remain an outsider simply looking in. In Metamorphosis, you have the option to fap and even though (objectively) Saki isn't real, it feels wrong and gut-wrenching as if you've partaken in the dark side of society yourself.

Stumbled upon metamorphosis by accident and I literally almost got depressed by the ending. The girl could've had a bit more personality though. It was an experience though. Brought me to tears a lil (for depressing reasons)

1:33:40 Another perfect example of Joey and Garnt syncing up their movements

The thing that fucks me up about Metamorphosis is that, unlike a lot of the more vile doujins out there, it has its root in some pretty harsh, real shit. It fucked me up because all of that stuff has probably happened to countless girls in real life if not exactly the way it goes for Saki or necessarily to that degree. Which is one of Shindo L's goals. The fact that it's mired so deeply in real life problems like drug addiction and manipulation and objectification of girls that are then discarded and shunned once used makes it harder for me to go "well, at least that couldn't happen irl" which some of the more twisted shit you can rationalize away with. And the fact that something like that can happen to someone is so utterly horrific that even though it's not a 9 on the doujin richter scale of fucked, it's way harder to shake off afterward. But I'm also not going out of my way to read that shit on a regular basis, so what do I know.

The adult manwha idea does actually seem like it'd sort of meet one of the criteria Connor had before for the doujin when it's been brought up. He could probably just auto-scroll the longstrip stuff instead of having to turn pages all the time. I've done this before when I was feeling particularly lazy with the regular series like Tower of God or what have you. Just set a scroll going on its own with your mouse wheel that can match the reading pace well enough, maybe a smidge slower than you might think you need in case you suddenly get some more reading than usual in a particular part. It's not terribly difficult to "pause" or "rewind" if necessary either.

Funnily enough, I found Metamorphosis completely on my own within the last week without knowing a thing about it. And I went into it expecting it to be like a normal Hentai, and I was prepared to do my normal thing expecting such. It took me like an hour or so to read, and by the end I had stopped attempting to do my normal thing and was just reading it for the story

I recommend Omochikaeri Lamia - Lamia, the carry out office lady. And most things by Horitomo are pretty good.

‘It’s like a scat scene with ten pages of cleaning up’ 😂😂😂😂 Connor kills me i swear

Conner has no idea how realistic Metamorphosis actually is. I’ve seen some shit man.

As someone who grow up near a low-income area, I can tell you that the exact scenario in Metamorphosis has happened. Along with every other terrible thing individually

1:31:18 I love how grant just stared straight into my soul, doubting my life choices 😭😭😭

"they're not blood related so it doesn't counts." *Domestic na Kanojo Intensifies*

They should have recommended him 'Time Stripper Reika' it's so funny. The story is basically the girl got time stopping power and she use it to have sex with guy in university, but then one day she find out there's a guy who also got time stopping ability too. And she have to find out his identity because this guy keep targeting her for some reason. It's so fucking hilarious, if you guys never read this, you should. Work from this artist has always been meta and funny.

1:59:38 this happens in rural areas. Especially on the way to school in the back of the bus

Russians: Да, ура, мы сделали. Хентай обогнал лесбиянок. Мы достигли этого.