"No evidence a soul can be REDEEMED" Sera believes they can improve but since Angel's still in hell there's no proof it does anything.

Someone once pointed out that the whole 'their love is vile and blasphemous' is possibly more the fact that an angel is dating a demon and not that their in a same gender relationship as vizzie apparently doesnt want too much homophobia in her shows.

I think that Charlie will be more upset at Vaggie because she lied to, than her being an angel

"if angles can fall, then demons can rise" charlie should have said that

It just occurred to me that by attacking the Hotel first, it's not just Adam being petty and vindictive, they're actually destroying the evidence.

Fun fact: the pink and white angel among the hot angels is Molly angel dust's twin sister. I hope they Reunite

Em is a both a precious little bean and a queen for pushing back against Sera and standing with Charlie when she found out about the exterminations.

If you notice, Sera said she "agreed to [Adam's] yearly activities." So it's implied the Exterminations were Adam's idea in the first place. My guess is he's the one to plant the "Hell is getting stronger and may cause an uprising" idea in her head since a lot of what she does is based on fear for those in Heaven. And he specifies that Vaggie landed specifically LILITH'S little hottie. I think he twisted all the info to cause the Exterminations just because he was jilted by Lilith and wants her to suffer as much as Lucifer does.

Can we take a moment to appreciate how much Angel Dust has grown as a person? The way he protects Niffty and stood up to Val. He's come a long way from his pilot self. I'm proud of our Spider boy. Also, the way Charlie and Emily reprise the refrain of "Hell Is Forever." With new lyrics that call out Sera and Adam's hypocrisy is just glorious. "You Didn't Know" as a whole is amazing, but that part hit's especially hard.

I feel like Charlie is going to be more hurt by Vaggie not telling her about being an angel than she will be about Vaggie having killed so many sinners. Especially since Charlie has stood very firmly on the belief that people can change for the better.

2:00 The sticker is especially good because it works both as an "LGBT+ pride" sticker and as a hometown sticker, since Charlie lives in the Pride ring.

I'm glad you love Cherri Bomb's new accent. Fun fact about that: Vivienne actually decided she wanted Cherri to be Australian last minute during production of the pilot, after becoming inspired by Australian folk music. Though, the dialogue couldn't be re-recorded. But Aussie Cherri's here now, I think it really fits.

to be fair just because Charlie's never asked Vaggie anything about herself ON SCREEN doesn't mean theyve never talked. Its only been 6 episodes, it's not like their entire life is on screen, we don't know what all they've been through together outside of what little we see in the episodes

I think the reason Lucifer and Charlie’s relationship was so rocky was because Lucifer was depressed and that affected his parenting skills

Vaggie actually being a fallen angel makes so much sense now. She loves her GF Charlie but she's mostly been hesitant to support Charlie's dreams and goals. And it's because Vaggie don't want Charlie to get her hopes too high up because this could all possibly fail horribly because she knows how these angles and even hell work! 💔

I think Vaggie being cast out wasn't specifically that she wouldn't kill a child but more that she hesitated and refused to carry out an order to kill a demon regardless of how innocent they look. This action, or inaction I guess, could be seen as insubordination and or weakness.

The reason for vaggie never telling is the same for her beating herself down for the trust excersices. After being "de-angeled" charlie became her whole purpose. She is duty bound, she was in haven and she still is in hell. The mere idea of letting her down on an excersice was debastating, let alone telling her she was part of the ones killing her people

Fun fact: You can see Angel Dust's sister that wasn't previously cannon in pilot but she's in the background in heaven sitting on a curb. I like that VizziePop added her in the background and hope she can have a prominent role later on in the series.

What if the reason why Carmilla Carmine was able to kill the executioner angel wasn't because of the amount of raw power she had, but the intent behind it. The only reason she attacked the angel was to save her daughters. That's a selfless act.

So, fun note that we learned from Viv’s posts, in the “everyone is hot” scene, the spider angel on the bottom right in the reds, whites, and pinks, is apparently Angel’s twin sis Molly.

About Lucifer and Charlie: Speaking purely from my experiences with depression, in my downs I would try to get everyone at arms length, thinking I was never good enough and they’d be better off without me. Especially close family. Why should I force them to endure the fuck up that I am if even I hate myself? Then of course they’d hate me too. I think… I can relate to how he’d feel… Because I know I’d act the same way if I had a daughter and I was separated from the mother. I’d love her more than anything, but it’s because I love her that I’d stay away, thinking she’d be better off without me.

12:09 its not just her not knowing how Charlie would feel about her being an angel. Its also about the internal guilt she has. She has slain thousand upon thousand of demons. After falling from grace and getting to know these people personally, imagine the shame and regret she would feel for herself of having ever geen part of that. Thats a lot to be forced to confront.

I feel so bad for Vaggie in this episode- I hope everything ends up alright between her and Charlie in the end.

I loved seeing Angel Dust stick it to Val and actually stand up for himself. Very cathartic to see! Hope he gets even more courage in the future and finally quits.

16:40 When you said "no no no" I remembered Lucifer with his "NO uhuhuh"😅

I’m loving the Lute character. She’s got a badass design and an AMAZING singing voice

Emily is absolutely adorable and I need her to interact with Charlie more

OK, about Charlie and Vaggie's relationship being one sided with the whole Carlie not asking about her backstory, I feel like we also have to consider whether Vaggie wanted to share that information to begin with. Like from what we've seen of her character so far, Charlie seems pretty openminded and understanding of people, I mean her primary goal is to provide people cast into hell a chance to redeem themselves. So, I think her not knowing Vaggie was an angel has less to do with her not asking her girlfriend about it and more Vaggie not wanting to let her know that to begin with. Something about communicating in relationships is that one has to ask a question but the other party must also be willing or wanting to answer said question. I've met a lot of people who are very secretive about stuff in their past, even to those close to them. Idk, that's just what I think, maybe I'm the only one who sees the situation in the show this way.

Btw, in the welcome to heaven song, when st. Peter says “everyone is hot” Angel dust’s sister Molly on sitting there is the ground

The heaven/hell split happened once free will was entered into the picture, so imagine that you kind of have to 'choose' where you end up yourself. Not literally, but it's like you end up where you think you belong. People who lived 'bad' lives will feel (subcounciously) shitty about it and end up in hell, and once they're there it's kind of a self fuffiling prophecy. "I ended up in hell so i belong here and i might as well act like it" which is why all the souls there act like, well you've seen them. In the tv show 'lucifer' (and the comics they're based on) hell works exactly like that. So my theory is that once Angel truly accepts for himself that he's a good person he'll be able to enter heaven.

I think Sera is a great antagonist for our main characters. She clearly looks miserable during the song when Charlie is asking if she cares or not. I believe she knows the exterminations are horrible but she's so controlled by her fear of Hell uprising again that she can't see another way forward. I wonder if Lucifer and Lilith tried something before, with Lucifer's line "I tried this all before" in "More than Anything", and it went south which led to the exterminations to begin with. I'm really hoping that when Extermination Day comes that Alastor is completely outclassed - the lore Viz released before said that Angel's inherently have power over demons. So even if he could handle a few Exorcists he should be completely out of his league against an army. So I'm really crossing my fingers that with the Rosie episode coming up they're gathering allies and maybe even getting the secret of how to harm Angels from Carmilla to make a stand. I'm also hoping that if the Hotel is attacked Lucifer isn't just absent - there's no way he'd stand by and allow his daughter to be at risk from Heaven's army. Maybe even Lilith showing up if things got really bad (depending on if she's free to actually move around, we've no idea where she is). Regardless great episode and great reaction.

I think the kid that Vaggie didn’t wanna kill was Hellborn. Like they were born in hell like Charlie was. And I believe Emily is Sera’s little sister. I say that cuz of the “I thought since I’m older, it’s my load to shoulder” line.

I think Charlie has a right to be pissed at Vaggie. It's not that she was an angel, it's that she was an EXORCIST. In terms of suffering caused she's probably up there with Alastor and the vees. Not to mention that she lied about it, the fact that Charlie had to find out from Adam of all people is a disgrace. Plus there was useful information about the exorcists that she could have shared that would have helped the hotel, like that exorcists can be killed, that most of heaven doesn't know about exterminations, that adam can't be talked out of it, etc. But Vaggie hid all of that for selfish reasons

We stan Emily. What a G. A real potato that one. Also, I was kinda surprised that Cherri wasn't being very supportive and respectful of Angel's decisions and choices to be better. I mean, we got a little bit of that when she said that was happy for Angel that hotel was working for him, so that made up for it a little bit to me. Also, I f**king love that she has an AUSSIE accent! I hope we see her again soon. Shout-out to all my lovely Aussie peeps, y'all have the coolest accent.❤😊🇦🇺🫶

I found myself connecting with Emily a lot, personally. I'm a religious person, but I want to see change happen to make my religion more tolerant. It feels like talking to a wall with more conservative people who think everything is fine the way it is. I also felt that line about pretention. It reminded me of being a teenager and learning about the hypocrisy and holier-than-thou crap a lot of people in my religion spit out.

I always find it telling that her finger points to "behave selflessly" at the end here. Part of being selfless is doing what is right regardless of the consequences to yourself.

I liked the flames reflected in Sarah's eyes. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

I'm sorry but can I just mention the irony of "I've never been big on the deep reds and blacks", when that is literally her hair and shirt color combo in this vid? lol

Charly having a "pride" sticker is funny 'cause not only it's obviously for gay pride, with the rainbow next to it and all, but also her dad is the sin lord of Pride

I think the love being blasphemous was more about demon and angle being in a relationship. Don't think it was about them being gay

10:15 on the point of the child in hell, he looks like he’s from the cannibal colony, so I suspect he was born into a cannibal family who acted like eating other people is a natural thing. It is most definitely a parent inspired thing, but I don’t think heaven really cares where a soul gained their sinful habits. Also 6:30 hi Molly!!!

You know, one thing I noticed was that when Adam was talking to Vaggie, he said that she landed "Lilith's little hottie". Notice how he says Lilith, not Lucifer, even though he's literally the king of Hell. This is just more evidence to the theory that Lilith is a villain and has been in heaven all this time doing...idk what, and she is controlling Alastor

i continue to wonder how far Charlies "redemption is good" thing actually goes. Like a part of me CAN NOT believe that she thinks EVERYONE is redeemable. Like there is a big difference between Angel and someone like Val. And honestly i think that is the thing i most want to see her have to confront (some people CAN NOT, AND SHOULD NOT be saved)

I mean we know Adam is the ultimate douche and Lute is a horrid monster But Sera's probably the worst. She co-signed mass genocide and is throwing herself a pity party "Oh it was such a hard decision, and like I feel so bad, but I need to do this and me me me ME ME!" Miss me with that crap

Nifty is an absolute ICON

11:39 I firmly believe the conflict between Charlie and Vaggie isn’t just that she was lied to, but more specifically that she didn’t feel like she can trust her. Charolette trusts everyone else and gives everyone the benefit of the doubt, but for the woman she feel in love with to both not be honest with her on the basis they wouldn’t be dating if she was, and withholding info and connections that could’ve helped Charlie MORE in her efforts, would be heartbreaking. It’d be bad enough that no one else seems to believes in Charlie or her dreams (except for her dad..recently), but on some level even her own partner doesn’t have faith in her or her goals would be heart wrenching.

6:42 - I was shocked and happy to see Molly make her debut. It's so sweet and I hope her and Anthony (AKA Angel Dust) meet up someday. It'll be so sweet for siblings to meet. And then Angel will tell about his mobster family .

I'm very much getting the impression that Sera is TERRIFIED - like whoever or whatever's above her in the cosmic food chain has her terrified of challenging the status quo (or of having a loved one like Emily do so).

In defense of Sir Pentious she didn’t say no and kinda flirted with him a little at the bar. Plus the smile she gave when he asked if they wanted to “do a sex” seemed a little flirty. Like he doesn’t have much rizz, but his dorkiness was endearing to her. That and I doubt many sinners have gone to battle with her so long or with such strength. He just needs a little confidence.

I feel like maybe Adam was good WHEN HE LIVED ON EARTH! But when he got to heaven, he became spoiled. And maybe because of his loyalty to his superiors, or because he is the first person, he is still in heaven.

I love that NO ONE so far has caught note of Angels sister in the "welcome to heaven' song XDD

Regarding the Charlie Lucifer issues, I saw someone suggest on Tumblr that Lucifer's depression is just so bad he's disassociating. For instance Charlie says she told him about the hotel but he doesn't remember that and in some points in episode 5 he's clearly checked out of conversations. He's so depressed he can't pay attention to or remember anything. I've only seen this theory once but already subscribe to it wholeheartedly.

as for Astrid and Hiccup, their relationship strengthens during the TV and Netflix series and it's amazing

fun fact: the pink spider in the bottom right when St. Peter says “everyone is hot” is Molly, angel’s sister. Imagine her finding out that they’re going down there every year and putting her brother’s life in danger by killing sinners. :(

Em & Char = the most adorable best buds that should have met long ago

I think Lute was saying that their love is vile and blasphemous because it's an angel dating a "Hell spawn" (Lucifer's daughter no less).

YESSSSS THANK YOU MOSCO FOR BEING THIS QUICK! I love your reactions queen, this made my day better :'D!!

Did you notice Angel Dust's twin sister Molly in the part when the guy sang everyone here is hot in the heaven song?

Vivzie mentioned on an episode of the HunieCast that Cherry was always Australian, but none of her lines in the pilot really let it be emphasized much, so you have to _really_ listen closely to hear it. When Krystal appeared on the HunieCast and did Cherry's voice it was much more apparent. Can confirm: in pretty much every job, whenever there's a problem the first question anyone asks their immediate superior is "Can we fix this without telling the higher-ups?" and 100% of the time the answer is "Yes."

So an important distinction here: she didn't say there was no evidence souls could change. She said there was no evidence they could be REDEEMED and let into heaven. Because as far as we know even she doesn't know what the criteria to get into heaven in the first place are because they don't actually make the decision.

Charlie is going to be hurt by that reveal. Absolutely. But it won't last. She knows Vaggie is a good person. Her own father is also a fallen angel. Adam was relying on hatred to cause division, but he doesn't know Charlie. Charlie knows the difference between good and bad, and more importantly, between right and wrong.

I knew Emily was going to be Heaven’s Charlie the moment I learned about her from the leaked character sheets, and even though they didn’t get all of heaven on their side at least they have one ally in the other side Also you and your gf were right all along about Vaggie I herd the theories but I wasn’t sure if they were true until this episode BTW when Charlie meet Vaggie ever wondered what Charlie was doing in that ally in the first place with a role of bandages and why she didn’t figure out Vaggie was a exorcist because I have a theory on that and I’m more then willing to share it

10:00 Seeing that the kid has the appereance similar to the ones given to the cannibal demons, most probably is that his parents were cannibals and he ate what they give to him without knowing the truth, then in some circunstance he died (like if the family of his parents victim were after them, including him, or even if he were killed by his own parents) and he was judged as a sinner without considering that he was a child that didn't know what was happening, he looks like 8 years old after all, specially since church have a tendency of telling kids that if they aren't perfect they'll go to hell

6:42 fun fact the pink angle sitting in the bottom right corner is Molly, Angle Dust twin sister 😊

10:00 While that sinner could have possibly been a child, they also could have just been a small statured demon, like Nifty. (Based on their design, they were likely from the Cannibal Colony - vintage clothes, sharp teeth, blacked out eyes, muted rose color pallet, etc.) I think it’s less about _who_ she let go, and more _why._ Vaggie saw a human soul crying in fear, and she felt empathy for a demon for the first time, and showed them mercy.

Lute: "Their love is vile and blasphemous!" 👿 Adam: "Hot as fuck tho..." 😏 *He may be an asshole, but he's kinda based lol*

Love the fact that Wee Lass is 99% correct about any and all theories so well done!

Honestly, I think Charlie has asked her about herself but Vaggie never told her the truth. Like, she was scared to say who she was to the girl who was *trying* to stop the thing she was a part of, ya'know? In my head, I believe that Vaggie is trying so hard to be there for Charlie, trying to make all of her dreams come true, and trying to break the wall that is between heaven and hell; however, knowing that she comes from a past that she wants to forget- she didn't tell her the truth in fear that being from the other side is going to make Charlie hate her. (This is all my opinion, I can be completely wrong and that is fine. I just love this show so much

I'm so happy for you guys getting this right! 💜

Molly (Angels twin sister) is also in heaven :D

Hiccup does a LOT more to get to know Astrid in the books and side shows, the movies and some main shows tho id agree on.

10:35 This reminds me of the limo scene in the pilot. "Is that you being a homophobe or Nephalemphobic?" Lute: "Whichever ticks you off more."

If Pentious were in any other place and hadn't been drinking, he may have been able to catch that Cherri didn't say no lol. All she asked was why would they, as arch nemeses(?) be intimate. Poor Pentious 😅

When Nifty went after Val I was like... he's dead

Watching you react to these and feeling it is fantastic :) I'm new to your channel but really enjoying your energy and how much joy and frustration and happiness comes from watching the show

We don't know that Charlie never asked. It could be that Vaggie lied about her past out of fear or shame. Hopefully we'll find out next episode whether it's a case of " You never asked about my history so I never brought it up!" or "You always told me !"

the pride sticker on charlie’s bag is actually since they’re in the pride ring of hell! it’s probably also for her and vaggie, but either way i love the details!!

I literaly screamed when i saw you posted your video, i'm so excited for your reaction 💞💞

When she talked about astrid and hiccup, I knew she never watched the TV series. Race to the edge or Riders of Berk.

Haha, I suspected Vaggie was an angel right from the pilot and I’m so glad the clues weren’t just red herrings. Loved seeing Molly briefly here as well. I’m now wondering if things end with the exterminations being cancelled once it’s revealed Adam lied about hells uprising as he’s just pissy about Lilith or if they go in another direction. I must say the story has kept me guessing

Also it’s funny because vaggie being an Angel makes her an literally an hypocrite when you really think about it

Your reaction to the reveal was about what I expected. Watched the episode when it came out with my son and mentioned the thoughts of her being an X-executioner. We were thrilled when we saw it, and knew you gals would be ecstatic over it. Lol

Remember the part in the last episode, when Lucifer and Charlie were having a moment when she was a little girl, and then Lilith came in and took her away, and we see Lucifer start to look sad? I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that was meant to indicate that Lilith was trying to keep Charlie away from him, and possibly is the one who’s been sabotaging the father daughter relationship

Emily is so precious. 10:36 Caggie: "Was that you being homophobic or demonophobic?" Lute: "Whichever pisses you off more." Sadly, Lute is "Hot as fuck though."

when they lute says "their love is vile and blasphemous" i thought it was about charlie being from hell and a half demon. guess it can be both tho

I think what she means by "no evidence" is that Angel Dust isn't in Heaven even after doing all that so she declared it "no evidence" XD It proooobably takes more than that to get into Heaven though ^^:

MOSCO , HOW DID YOU NOT SPOT MOLLY ANGEL DUST’S TWIN SISTER IN THE “WELCOME TO HEAVEN” SONG !!

I kind of feel like you're jumping to conclusions a little bit when saying charlie never asks her about her past. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. The more likely case is charlie asked when they met and she saw her hurt and missing an eye. And chances are vaggie lies about her backstory or simply said she was uncomfortable talking about it, given that she was still uncomfortable by the idea of bringing it up when adam shows up

Wait wait wait...if Adam was the first human soul in heaven...does that mean his son who was killed by his brother, and therefor died before Adam, went to hell?

"what's doing a child in hell anyway?" well, ask to the parents xDD

I wouldn't worry too much about Chaggie. Having re-watched the trailer for Season 1, we have some scenes left that hasn't occurred yet, including them working on the hotel together. I think it was confirmed they will have a love-song too which we haven't heard yet either (if it's true)

I'm part of Elijah's patreon and I hear about you constantly, so I walk over to see what's up, fellow Adam middle ground appreciator is what's up apparently, mad respect.

3:50 Cherri Bomb is my favorite character from Hazbin Hotel. Hearing you say this just put a bigger smile on my face.

I don't know, given when Charlie brought up not trusting angels, that kind of reads as Vaggie's reaction to angels in general. And she might have told Charlie a story about being attacked by an angel, so Charlie wouldn't bring it up (or mention she herself is half angel) because she wouldn't bring up a terrible day for her. And even if she had told her (and I won't be surprised that it isn't news) but that its still a shock to see it.

In the movies they don't show a lot, but how to train you dragon had 2 shows where both Astrid and Hiccup grew together and started to like each other and their relationship is NOT one sided. Both those series were "located" (idk if that is the word) before the second movie. So they had a HUGE story before they ended up together in the end of the second series. It took them 2 years to oficially be together and they allways helped each other. One example was when a dragon who shows up there once a year brought disgrace to her family bc her uncle was paralised with fear of the dragon and he helped her prove that actually that dragon had a mist breath that could temporarily paralise their victims. He allways supported her thought her decisions, like when they were living in another island far away and she wanted to stay to be a part of berk's guard and he supported her even tho he was sad to be sepparated from her. Or when her parents house got destroyed and she said she would stay in berk to help them and he was the first to say he would stay too to help her. There are other multiple ocasions in both series, but let's be honest the movie is about Hiccup and Toothless, so it is focused on them, where in the series all the characters had their moments and developments individualy and with each other. But even so, he is the leader of Berk and has ppl depending on him, so of course she would support him and be the one to give him advice. It's been like this throught the movies and series bc what he wants often is the same things as she wants. That's why she fell in love with him, bc he is just, heroic, he loves to help others and dragons, etc.

I totally get it Mosco, Cherri's Aussie accent is so badass. Cherri might've been like this during the club scenes in this episode cause she's not really sure what too do for Angel since she's only known that drugs and drinking and clubbing can cheer him up so she's indecisive about what she can do too get him feeling well she's doing her best though so we have too give her that

NEW CHARACTER!!! Everyone: I LOVE THEM/HER/HIM!! My new favorite character.

a demonstration about the wide gap that exists between the phrases "this is true" and "this court finds"

In the span of one episode Em has already become one of my favourite characters. Adorable design, adorable writing, adorable voice acting. The part where her and Charlie sing together during You Didn't Know is one of my favourite moments in this series. It's cool seeing them in synch, and I love a good reprise. Edit: Wait is that a Lon Lon Milk mug? Either way I love it. It looks great.

I love watching masco and Elijahs videos and seeing them mention each other its so cute ❤