You imperial bastard!

@Shashwat Shridhar Justice!

So, how's your guard duty? I hear your cousin killed a dragon last month

Hail Sithis

@Shashwat Shridhar Damn rebels...

free my homie he just wants to see the aurora

I laughed way too hard at this

So basically saying snow, snow, go away, come back another day

Local "dragon" man defeats snow clouds with loud shouts, creates dry tundra in Solitude

Sometimes, in those cold winter days, if you listen closely you can hear that echoing sound of "LOK, VAH KOOR!" throughout the winds of Skyrim.

Maybe Nirn has a 0-degree axial tilt?

Come to think of it, it doesn’t make much sense. At the southern tip you have just normal forest, not even crazy high precipitation rainforest, and then halfway up you have desert. If you assume this is the equator and 30 degrees north, I guess it makes sense, except oh Cyrodiil is on the same latitude is Hammerfell but is most definitely not a desert. Then a bit higher you have snow, which does seem to check out.

@@tylerbennett4488 Cyrodill is a special case however. Considering it was literally terraformed from a rainforest.

@@alendonvaldor5808 I think that's just a misinterpretation of Cyrodiil's geography. It doesn't make sense for a country between a colder, Scandinavian-esque country, and two warmer countries covered in swaths of rainforest and desert. Cyrodiil's more temperate environment actually makes sense when you think about it for more than 3 seconds.

They originally were gonna implement seasons, or at least yearly snow, but it got cut partway through developement, you can see it in action in a video of the Bethesda Gamejame

we decide when something is relevant

@@LeftoverPat truth I know the complete story of tamriel inculding the gods and I am failing maths TES stuff is more useful tho

Because science classes make you learn about stuff you don't particularly care about VS. science videos on youtube you willingly clicked on.

I assumed it was the planet being round tbh

@@draconian_dragons6588 … Actually that’s a good point - IS Nairn even a planet? The sun and stars aren’t actually… Well, stars at all, but instead just light seeping through from aetherius. The moon is supposedly the remains of Lorkhan, and everything revolves around Nirn rather than it being a celestial body as part of any solar system. Is Nirn even spherical or is it just a flat landmass inhabited in a realm that staves off the rest of Oblivion?

Are you a writer?

@@alexisortiz661 not yet.

Never stop being you! The possibilities for theory seem so endless when we try to extract exact climate explanations from in game clues. I think you're on to something, especially regarding uphill slopes too. I can't help but want to pretend what we see in Skyrim is actually just a small representation of what "the real thing" is... "The real thing" actually being a Daggerfall-sized map. So what you're mentioning may be that much more reasonable when we scale the world! I was also surprised at the lack of greenery, it's almost comical. Then I look at a world map.... Perhaps high rock is more GEOGRAPHICALLY similar to Scandinavia... And what's to the East? Russian Siberian wastes... Ala Skyrim.

There is a lot of tundra on low mountains actually, so it is verry like scandinavia. At least norway. Do you live somewhere in scandinavia.

However, Alaska does have large swaths of tundra throughout it's northern region. Although Nord culture is modeled after the Scandinavians, Skyrim itself looks similar in size to Alaska.

"...more similar to the Nordics + Arctic during the ice age." Indeed. And happily we have an entire continent "lost to ice and winter", Atmora, north of Skyrim only a bit (relatively) off the map. The glacial edge may be working its way down the intervening ocean all through the history of Tamriel from the last migrating Nords to TES V.

Most of the Whiterun Hold should be as green as Falkreath.

>Tenth Divine >Implying there's a Ninth Divine Found a true son/daughter of Skyrim!

@@WretchedRedoran A Redoran talking about being a true son of Skyrim, my day is complete

@@ncrranger6327 Found a member of the NCR who isn't talking about nuclear winters, my day is complete!

9th* talos a hoe

I'd imagine if Skyrim had seasons, we'd definitely see a snowy Solitude

@@LeftoverPat I'm pretty sure there is a mod that adds seasons and snowcover, complete with a snowy Solitude.

@@delta-a17 yeah but it's a mod though isnt it however I did hear a comment say there was a small chance for snow to occur anywhere in skyrim

They made Skyrim look like Cyrodiil 2.0. I don’t like it. The whole country should be entirely snowy.

@@muslimcrusader5987 Might've been pretty boring to only have one look to the whole game like that...

Village? You mean hamlet. Witcher 1 has 3 bigger villages that are obviously more developed but they still feature a lot of fill-in empty and locked hamlets... the problem is that they didn' fake the large city size... same with the IC they should've gone with a lockdown system back then but we can do it now

I mean the definition of city varies from place to place, where I live a city is defined as a settlement with 1000 or more residents, but the city I live in which has around 2.5 million people would be considered a town in China

Well...yeah No one ever fucking comes there-

I mean, every settlement in Skyrim is barely a village. Sometimes a village with walls.

Most of settlements in skyrim are downscaled to fuck. So a town that house hundreds of houses and manors are downscaled to only dozens and more. This is because of engine limitation. Most village in skyrim even only contain 5 house at most, 1 house/inn at least. So solitude can be a big city on gigantic arc that house hundred thousand of people, but Beth downscaled it so your poor little poopoobox wont explode when city cells are loaded. (Not to mention that Beth Havox engine are outdated as heck). Gameplay-story segregation mate, don't take everything at face value.

Thank you for this thoughtful comment!

Yeah, it's likely every TES game is just perpetually going to be in summer and that's the real answer - at least until winter time ;)

Actually it does snowfall, but not all the time though.

Graymore Caverns maybe the cause for the most warm weather, if the volcanic activity hasn't disappeared.

correct! also inland cities just get more extreme temperatures than coastal ones

​@@LeftoverPat True! But even NYC and some coastal areas in BC (Canada) seem to get way colder temps than some of those moderately populated northern regions. The explanation of precipitation is also quite interesting. It again makes sense, then, that Moscow has a difficult time handling a moderate amount of snow (given that it doesn't happen very often).

Altitude could explain the difference- Northern Cyrodil with its single city of Bruma could be set higher up the mountains than your southern skyrim settlements like Riverwood, Riften and Helgen, meaning the general temperatures in Bruma would be far lower than Riften for example The problem in ES is every game has a different scale to the lore and each other (The game map being far smaller than the lore dictates), making it difficult to properly compare them to verify the altitude theory; the only exception being Daggerfall

@@Pintroll300 No, I actually think altitude would explain it very nicely. Thank you.

Mountains

If you go further to south you'll see snows

Hah! Glad someone caught that

three reasons: skyrim is cut off from warm continental air by the jerral mountains, morrowind has no mountain range separating it from black marsh, thus they'll get more warm air from the south. morrowind has an east coast, which could harbour warm sea currents. this would already be enough, since france and Germany have a similar thing going on.

@@windhelmguard5295 Well you may be right for Morrowind, but France and Germany both have the same climate (Cfb oceanic) on the same latitude...

@@M_Julian_TSP that is simply incorrect as france is nearly always warmer and/or more humid than Germany.

@@windhelmguard5295 it is generally warmer and more humid though it is still the same Cfb oceanic climate, it's just that it gets more continental going east. While in Tamriel the problem is on a bigger scale, Morrowind has humid subtropical climate (Cfa) on the same latitude and altitude as Falkreath

​@@M_Julian_TSPOceanic climates are very varied...

Thank you so much!

maybe its because of a mod but I've heard that there is a small chance for it to snow almost anywhere in skyrim except whiterun

Sometimes if I go up to Bleak falls barrow and then head down it doesn’t seem to notice and the weather carries on for a while… Did you happen to be heading down from a nearby mountain?

@@matthewbibby8921 Good question. If I recall correctly, no. I think I had just stayed the night at the inn, and when I came outside it was snowing.

thank you!

You pretty much got it!

@@LeftoverPat I've drawn up a couple maps for fantasy stories and tabletop games and I try to be as realistic as possible. I'm no expert by any means but I really appreciate games like the Elder Scrolls series bringing in these subtle details.

In The Three Banners War, it was Windhelm.

Tamriel isn't a supercontinent. There are other continents like Atmora and Akavir.

Thank you!

Great question! Bruma is the perfect INLAND mountain city, by contrast. In this case, I would apply the same warm currents (Elsweyr, humid Black Marsh) moving to northern climates rule, as weather gets caught in the northern Jeralls.

LeftoverPat kinda like an Tamriel Jet Stream

I don't think you can look at all the effort and money they put into any of their games and label them as "lazy". Just think about Skyrim itself for a moment. It can take 100 or more hours to see and do all the content that's present in that game. If it takes that long to see it all, how long did it take to program it into the game in the first place? Sure they take shortcuts and cut features, but it's not out of laziness, it's out of a need to avoid feature-creep and meet their deadlines. If they didn't draw the line somewhere the games would never come out. See Star Citizen for an ongoing example of what happens when a developer doesn't know when to stop adding features and consolidate what they have.

@@DovahFett OKAY FIRST OFF very nice civil argument with helpful terms and examples 👍 I usually get yelled at by the internet for having opinions on the video games, so I appreciate chu 😊 And honestly, I’m not gonna deny the vast amount of effort that seems to be on display in Bethesda games. I’m super unfamiliar with programing anything more than a jumpy square, and if you add walls to the level, my programming is doomed 😅 So I’m not the best at recognizing how much effort goes into all the different aspects of a big game. I’ll say this though: presentation is a big factor for me. I recently did the Solsethem (sp?) DLC, and I walk everywhere on that island. No fast travel for me lol And I swear you can find clipping objects and land every few yards. ☹️ Maybe I’m a perfectionist, but if I was a programmer, I could not sleep until I fixed those errors! At the very least, I’d fix the ones you can see from the foot paths. There’s a lot of other details I could list, but I’m gonna leave it there cuz I’m not trying to change your mind or anything lol As far as my opinion goes, I’d say it’s more in the realm of “a feeling of laziness” rather than a fully “logical educated guess”. So yeah, I think it’s very good that you commented here, to balance out the ignorance in my statement lol 😋 Side Note: What’s “feature creep”?

@@leahl5007 Oh no, I don't dispute that the games have bugs in them, like the ones you pointed out, but here's something to keep in mind. Try to imagine all the bugs that you don't see because they were caught during development or patched out at a later time. You're only seeing the 5% of bugs that for whatever reason weren't fixed. whether it be because developers didn't have time or didn't know about them. Also consider that some bugs can be a product of fixes to existing ones. Patch one hole and two more appear. This is statements on feature creep and development time come into play. You can either spend months to years stamping out every bug you come across and chase perfection, or just deal with the most egregious ones and get a good enough out to players. Bethesda games are deceptively simple looking. Anyone that's seriously ventured into modding them will probably tell you that doing anything substantial or remotely complex is a pain in the ass. Due to their advanced age some the tools and even game engine itself are basically jury rigged to work the way Bethesda needs them to. My favorite example of this is in Fallout 3, where there's a section where the player takes a metro train to a new area instead of fast traveling. As the developers didn't have the time or skill needed to make a working train within the game engine (since it didn't support vehicles) they instead opted to create a giant hat that looks like a train car, and equip it to the player. After that they simply made the player character move really fast on a set path to simulate the movement of the train. The result is what looks like a perfectly functional train, but a quick look with a different camera angle will tell you that it's anything but. So the games may look lazy at times, but the hoops Bethesda has to jump through every development cycle to make them function are anything but. The scale and complexity of the systems they build for them just make it inevitable that some things slip through the cracks.

ah yeah, in summer...17 last seed (August!)

"The great cities by soldierofwar" I have it and it's great! It overhauls winterhold, dawnstar, rorrikstead, and falkreath.

The Rift is a little weirder, but same principle applies to it as it does in Falkreath, I'd say. The game always being in summertime might help this...