What's the best water based gloss paint - Crown Fast Flow Gloss?

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Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator

Phil Beckwith The Professional Painter & Decorator

Жыл бұрын

What's the best water based gloss paint, have you tried Crown Trade Fast Flow Gloss and the Crown Trade Fast Flow Undercoat.
Let try it out in a colour on Doris the door. A light sand, dust off then I apply One Under Coat and follow it with the two gloss coat paint system.
What is the best water based gloss paint? One that is quick drying but gives you a gloss finish like you expect to see with an oil based gloss paint?
Let me know what you think to this water based gloss system from Crown Trade.
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@jackwardley3626
@jackwardley3626 Жыл бұрын
the crown is a hybrid alkyd resin says in the data sheet you would have to make do with one coat of gloss other wise you would lose a lot work
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Brushes wash out fine. Do you lose work for putting two top coats on?
@jackwardley3626
@jackwardley3626 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 2 top coats yes especially on full interiors and exteriors
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
@@jackwardley3626 we quote the job and that's the spec. Not lost anything from putting two top coats on. :)
@jackwardley3626
@jackwardley3626 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator really phil you never lost work when yourve to put priced three coats on facias sofits etc a job where you 10-20 sashes with three coats etc and these hybrids i find you need to leave them as long oil anyway a lot of the time
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
@@jackwardley3626 thankfully we don't work for people penny pitching. The spec is the spec. If they say someone is cheaper ... But is it the same spec? If it needs two top coats it gets two top coats.
@gerardoneillhandpaintedkit9714
@gerardoneillhandpaintedkit9714 6 ай бұрын
Nice finish Phil I’ve used all the top brands Caparol scuffx & fast flow for the money is excellent love your videos 👍👍
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 6 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@garyreed9509
@garyreed9509 Жыл бұрын
Really good video Phil, great content again mate, I wonder if macphersons water based gloss is any good as it's the trade side of crown, well done mate
@jimmychooquay
@jimmychooquay Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the best acrylic water based gloss is? I’ve been using a Leyland Acrylic primer/undercoat and fast dry acrylic gloss but, I wondered what is better.
@imantsminix3431
@imantsminix3431 5 ай бұрын
like this brushe!
@AspireDecorating
@AspireDecorating Жыл бұрын
Showing my age now Phil but I remember many years ago a Leyland Rep trying to get me onto the w/b. It was a product called Acrylux, I distinctly remember him telling me due to the nature of acrylic paints they'll suck back into the u/c and so to "build up" the level of sheen with as many coats as you can manage. W/b has come a very long way since then but wherever possible I try to do at least 3 x top coats if I'm working with the gloss.
@Shortboxing47
@Shortboxing47 Жыл бұрын
Hi phill loving the progress mate, is multi surface paint any good for a garage door do you know like your standard new build ones?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Yes. AllCoat Exterior and Bedec MSP... Even Frenchic. Make sure it's clean and a light sand before you start. ;)
@MarkClifford-fh9ip
@MarkClifford-fh9ip Жыл бұрын
It is hybrid, after a days glossing you do need a bit of clean spirit but it's no brush killer.
@whitevanman9500
@whitevanman9500 Жыл бұрын
Happy yellow Phil 👍
@starlitpathways5595
@starlitpathways5595 Жыл бұрын
I'm liking the fastflow satin... It is a hybrid, the purple oil is on the surface every morning. I did nearly lose a brush, now I just keep it bagged up (I know, i know!) Got told the other day about a really good brush cleaner...but I washed the receipt it was written on 😂. There must be a good way of cleaning the brush, as supadec is another killer, but great paint!
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
these washed out fine
@davidcottle7346
@davidcottle7346 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using it for years lovely paint never had a problem cleaning brushes after ever that said the only thing I’ve glossed in the last five years is a front door but I think the satin is great paint
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@tedduggan3188
@tedduggan3188 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a test on Crown + PLUS + and Crown Acrylic primer, please
@colinwall2052
@colinwall2052 Жыл бұрын
Have any of these paints been used on a normal flat door if so what was finish like,
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Actually that paint was on flat doors on the original job it was bought for... It was the toilet doors at a factory. One yellow, one a cerise and one a light blue. All brough to a two gloss finish from.bare wood (that plug face wood) Results were the same... Still needed that extra coat of gloss ... Also they were brushes and not rolled.
@andrewthorn1399
@andrewthorn1399 Жыл бұрын
Doris must weigh a ton by now. Crown WB products are good, their gloss is one of the better ones. Charcoal WB primer covers an absolute multitude.
@wokinghamdecoratingservice891
@wokinghamdecoratingservice891 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this review Phil. Like you, I'm not a massive fan of water based glosses, but the best I've found so far is Teknos Futura Aqua 90 - actually has a decent sheen level! Have you tried that one yet?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Cheers. That's one I've got coming to me to test .
@wokinghamdecoratingservice891
@wokinghamdecoratingservice891 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator - their primer goes nicely under it as a system. Had good results with it so far.
@AspireDecorating
@AspireDecorating Жыл бұрын
Isn't that a hybrid?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
@@AspireDecorating the teknos? Not sure
@miker8149
@miker8149 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@colinhobbs5151
@colinhobbs5151 Жыл бұрын
Caparol gloss,decent sheen level, and Phil contact paintshack,I'm sure they will sort some out for you.
@daveoconnor5084
@daveoconnor5084 Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, just watched a video on KZfaq, a painter who uses water based paints but doesn't rate their durability. I'm at the point where I'm going to use the Bedec satin MSP for stairs handrail, spindles and skirting boards. How durable is it. I'm panicking slightly now as I've never used it before. Any advice and your thoughts please.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave? Who was that?? So many water based paints are interior exterior now.... How much durability does one want lol How many times do you go to an outside and the woodwork is peeling and flaking... And you know it's been done in oil! Water based exterior paints can be more flexible than oil. Have you watched my Bedec MSP scratch test in uPVC?
@geoffreymeare3406
@geoffreymeare3406 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave used loads of M.S.P Satin on exteriors.I think it's about the best you can get.Trouble is It doesn't quite cover in 2 coats so you might want to give 3 coats
@daveoconnor5084
@daveoconnor5084 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your replies. I was watching a guy on YT . I was thinking OMG. Feeling better after your comments. Thanks again 👍🏻
@gareththompson5269
@gareththompson5269 Жыл бұрын
Benjamin Moore Advance Gloss has a very decent sheen level but who these days wants gloss?
@davidcottle7346
@davidcottle7346 Жыл бұрын
I agree can’t stand the finish always steer customers away from it and I’ve just recently brought a new house and some bastards glossed everything now I’ve got to move in and re- paint the lot all over again
@MarkClifford-fh9ip
@MarkClifford-fh9ip Жыл бұрын
Hi, I've used fastflow Gloss, Satin and Eggshell. Gloss is good and seems to improve after a few weeks curing. Satin does yellow and look aged after one year plus. Eggshell is nice to use and two coats covers well over any quality undercoat, gives a nice flat eggshell finish.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@wendywolfe398
@wendywolfe398 Жыл бұрын
Can you buy this brand in the USA?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure. Sorry :(
@davewright9312
@davewright9312 Жыл бұрын
Use both crown and johnnos regularly ..I think Johnnos just had the edge with gloss level.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
The brush killer?
@richardloze5994
@richardloze5994 Жыл бұрын
Hi phill. I've been using isomat satin this week is very similar to aqua guard if not the same . Very white I must say. I don't trust the primier as I grip primier I must say. In some places it failed the scratch test a day after being painted all sanded and prep properly. Nothing touches halfprimier unbelievable stuff. So far bedec is my favourite one.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
It's very white. Isomat cure time is 30 day btw ;)
@richardloze5994
@richardloze5994 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator hell that's a long time.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
@@richardloze5994 zinnser are about 7 days
@adrianadios5041
@adrianadios5041 Ай бұрын
Phil... what is the best satinwood right now hands down?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Ай бұрын
for ease of application... two coats (most of the time) ScuffX for a nother qulaity finish with one Uc and two top coats.. Interior or Exterior look at Isomat
@adrianadios5041
@adrianadios5041 Ай бұрын
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks mate, I'm gonna try Scuff x. All the best!
@clintmannion5598
@clintmannion5598 9 ай бұрын
The jonos undercoat covers much better than the crown undercoat just much whiter
@user-ng2xs9rs3d
@user-ng2xs9rs3d Жыл бұрын
Hi I work in Spain were it's hot so oil v water
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Don't you have AC though?
@chippy3350
@chippy3350 Жыл бұрын
Best water based gloss giving best high gloss finish, Brewers “”Albany”” not hybrid, only downside it starts to run easily hard to keep in check, you think you have stopped them leave for some time and they appear from nowhere. If anyone knows a technique to stop it running please let me know….Phill are you sanding down between coats….great vids, thanks.p
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Yes I am.. I do it and dust off before I start.
@eezy251able
@eezy251able Жыл бұрын
Use the fast flow all the time. I find it a lot better than the quick dry Dulux.
@mattcartwright8272
@mattcartwright8272 Жыл бұрын
Used Crown FF gloss last week on a door frame. Truly awful stuff. I won't be using it again. Put the second coat on late Friday last thing so let's see what it looks like when I go in tomorrow morning. Half expecting to have to apply a third coat!
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
hi.... you used their undercoat, then a 1st gloss coat. the 2nd gloss coat will be fine today. The two top coats over the uc is something I cover in future videos :)
@mattcartwright8272
@mattcartwright8272 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Seeing as you asked Phil...It went over WB eggshell i.e. no UC. Second coat definitely better but still you can see flashing from underneath. Needs a 3rd coat really. Have also used same product in a dark tint on attached door. Better but still pulls off on small detail trim. You have to work quick with it then leave it alone. OK if you flood large flat panels and lay it off. Good sheen though tbh.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Always best to use the matching fast flow UC. There seems to be something in the matching UC/primers that aid the finish top coats looking their best.
@dannstonelake7181
@dannstonelake7181 Жыл бұрын
Is it still 1 u/c and 2 top coats orn1 u/c and 1 top coat
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
@@dannstonelake7181 you've watched the video? For best results... Yep
@Colwray1
@Colwray1 Жыл бұрын
Crown fast flow quick dry…. Aweful stuff!!! May as well try and paint dishwater on the woodwork … used it twice never again … crap
@Colwray1
@Colwray1 Жыл бұрын
Just to add.. it was the white I used…..
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! lol
@Colwray1
@Colwray1 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator 👌😂
@klinteriors74
@klinteriors74 Жыл бұрын
123 balls eye for me
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
as a gloss?? lol
@chippy3350
@chippy3350 11 ай бұрын
Albany
@arifmunshi6833
@arifmunshi6833 Жыл бұрын
It's gone yellow!!!!!!!!!!
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
very
@geoffreymeare3406
@geoffreymeare3406 Жыл бұрын
If your professional you should never use any waterbased gloss. It's all rubbish and belongs in room 101. Having said that most homeowners wouldn't know any difference whatever you use.
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
LoL
@kevinjackson6387
@kevinjackson6387 Жыл бұрын
Worse stuff I’ve ever used took it back don’t waste ya monies,
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
@@kevinjackson6387 Fast Flow?
@kevinjackson6387
@kevinjackson6387 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yes sorry fast flow,rubbish couldn’t get a decent finish with it ,talk about fast flow never had so many runs ,used nearly every WB paint going and this is the worst
@davidcottle7346
@davidcottle7346 Жыл бұрын
All gloss paint should come with a bloody free headache tablet awful stuff oil based that is
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Жыл бұрын
LoL
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