she deserved that emmy win

She definitely made me feel pretty seeing her in her natural hair and her signature snotty nose

@@cassthegrimm8522 😆👏🏽 Beautiful! Haha🙌🏽✨

Yes! I will never forget that

I cried no lie

This

THANK YOU!!!

I love my fingers and even with a blow out it has to be done immediately because those hairs find every reason and no reason to intertwine

I'm sayin!! I gotta be under the water for 4 hours before I can feel it hit my scalp ok?????

Right!!! I'd rip out half my hair if I tried copying her hair routine. Oops , shouldn't have said that! As soon as people with 4c (4z?) hair say something like that, we get jumped on with, "It's because you're not using the right products," or, "Your hair must be damaged..."

I hv 14% black ancestry...(one of my grandmother's was biracial) and my hair is more kinky than Tia. However I would never call myself black because I'm not. I'm a mixed person and identify as such.

@@mynameiswoman And that's perfectly ok =) I don't understand why biracial ppl feel like they have to choose. your not just black and your not just white. your biracial. be proud of it.

@@mynameiswoman who is asking you to. Why are you even on here debating your race. If you are mixed you are mixed end of.

I’m mixed and have 4c hair lol dad is black, mom is black/white

@@angiesspace2644who's debating?! my dear one must try to refrain from commenting when one's on their period. Irate much!

Sadly so true- I’ve been a fan of hers for years and hated when I saw that she posted this esp just to peddle a random hair care product 🙃

EXACTLYYYYY!! 💯

Stop with all this crap about white privilege Yall sound dumb as hell. If yall don't like mixed people due to self hate or whatever just say that

Exactly why I don't like her

Exactly

Wow, that’s interesting & sad.

I think SA had way more serious issues beyond hair. you were displaced in your own country. hair was the least of it.

@@marie-francoiset9402 no it wasn’t the least. It’s one of the many other problems. You can’t undermine a problem you never experienced

@@marie-francoiset9402hair actually played a role in determining a person social status and segregation in South Africa during the apartheid times.

Awful

I agree with your statement however I wouldn’t call it “real black hair” as we know black hair comes in all types, forms and textures. Fully black women have the same hair type as a lot of the women you’ve mentioned so it was still be “real black hair” the coarseness or texture of a hair should not change that. I do believe however we need to see more and different textures as much as we see those. Texturism is still very much a problem.

@Lyaná Rose Loose coil hair texture comes from mixing White with Black. Your parents can both be Black people... and you can consider yourself as fully Black because of that. But that's not true. Its in the Blood. The mixing is still there. THAT is why there are so many textures as you mentioned.

@@terrancemaloney29 there are people with coarse hair that are mixed and even more mixed then those you mentioned. Technically all of us have mixed blood in us at some point thanks to slavery. Also there are true Africans with looser hair texture throughout history. I see your point but it is solely an opinion and not fact.

So called "black hair" can look the same as theirs. It's not uncommon. This is America. My niece isn't biracial at all and has a similar hair texture.

No I disagree! I’m a black woman from east Africa Ethiopia ! I have a hair texture like tia or those women u listed! Black ppl hair and Color come in different texture etc .. and don’t come back and say we are mixed because we are not !!!

I'm 21 with kinky hair, and you definitely remind me of my mom. She's coloured South African, which is a term for biracial. But she was and still is there for me. Thankyou for being a great mom

Wool, Cotton, Linen, Silk

I’m not one to tell adults what to do but at this point, do both your daughters a favor a loc their hair so that way it’s easier in all three of y’all 🤷🏾‍♀️

No offense but you should have prepared for this before having kids with your African husband. It shows that you weren't aware/played about colorism and mixed privilege.

​@@nathalieaveluono she should learn

Tabitha Brown...however she advertises that her products are for ALL hair types...which is a topic for another conversation if you ask me...

@@HealthyBrownGirls I HATE that advertising; it's just confusing and often means "jack of all trades, master of none". Thank God for Qhemet Biologics and 4C only hair products (and others).

@@HealthyBrownGirls OK that's natural hair, I love tab, what about locs then??

@@robyn8342 Is that on TV?? I haven't seen anyone with locs over here, maybe relaxed hair that's about it.. I'm in the U.K..

Women with 4 type hair will have to be representation they want to see. Nobody can force us, we have to embrace our hair to the fullest. We’d made it so easy for 2 and 3 type people to take over the movement because we hide our hair

Agreed

Who is calling Mariah Carey black? 😂

@@Cinnamoncupquake delusional BP with self hate issues

@@Cinnamoncupquake A LOT of ppl. Let’s be real

America forces people to pick a side but Black women are changing that

wholeheartedly agree!

exactly because it also is a problem for people who have mixed hair textures like I do. I dislike how people lie on their hair textures, it's hard to style your hair CORRECTLY when you can't find the CORRECT representation for it. I'm fully black, but lightskin and I love to advocate for those who were also born with two black parents, but are also darker than me because I have all shades of black in my family. I have seen every hair texture and I will not ever discredit another black person's experience.

Frrrrr I never know which products to use

@@chilotamokafor7844 And i feel like it’s horrible for ppl to not know their true hair textures. Cause my hair is mixed textures 3c-4b and even i had a hard time finding ways to style my hair. for some reason 4c isn’t 4c anymore. and i hate that the representation for that hair type is incorrect.

I love the quote and the intent of the message. I genuinely feel like this should be the foundation of quote unquote "Black Hair", while biracial and/or pale skinned Black people with type 4c get their products and representation from OUR image and maintenance routines, not the other way around.

The covert racism is clear if our community stopped wanting to be light skinned or mixed.

@@octoberflower6943 'colourism' not racism but yes, I agree and that is what Tia is playing into and commercially attempting to capitalise on and that annoys me so much. America and this crazy 1 drop rule mentality has everyone fked up about true Blackness.

You’re absolutely right, period!

You are so on point, first I love your hair how can you go wrong with what God gave you, if I had nerver put perm on my hair year after year it would be your length but that is what am working on now

Same, it has made extremely depressed to the point where i dont even watch anything with black woman unless she's actually black

@@AnimeBoysOnly yes!! Same here, it's sad.

You’re not erased now so please be more grateful for how far we came now…

@@basedki3780 i'm grateful but its still damaged my younger self :(

@@AnimeBoysOnly fr!!

!! HELLO . Lord have mercy , I hope somebody talked some sense into Tia Mowry's head b/c what ?! I'm only now seeing this a year later.. if that had showed up on my explore page , she may have blocked me

That part

Lol I watched that video and ever since then, I've been saying that when it comes to mixed people. "If X is black, then I must be super negro".

@@serenatsukino5252 Same here. I watched that video over 20 times and I been calling myself a super negro ever since🙅🏾‍♂️😂‼️

Girl even the products are being taken away cause we can’t have anything.

See that why Black people are considered dumb.. You can't even write proper Grammar! What in the world does "she thinks she ate" mean. Grow up

I agree with what you are saying. You are not 100% black if you have an other parent. To hell with the one drop whyte made up rule. We are the only drop that claim biracial and triaxial people. I don't care if you mix yourself out of existence, but you don't get to be black with other nationalities running through your veins. Nothing against the mixed ones, but you do have two or more sides of yourself, so why only claim half or a third of yourself. I have 4C hair, but most of the women in my family do not, and they have two black parents. There was most likely some mixing in the gene pool at some point in time or maybe not, I don't know.

Growing up in the 90s in Africa, used to wish I could have that 3c hair. Those shows parading biracials as black did a number on us. Claire from My wife and kids had black parents but looked biracial😅

@Yup Yup You might be an exception to the rule…but it doesn’t change the overall struggle for REAL black Girls and Women…they face in western societies…they struggle more than mixed people in fake and racist white supremacist democracies like America and the European Union etc.

@Wakanda , idk if u recall, the early season of My Wife & Kids the oldest daughter dark skin. Next u know, she was xhanged out to the lighter skin girl. Imo, both daughters (new oldest one & the youngest one looked biracial to me. Lol

This part. The one drop rule needs to be DROPPED.

Same

well if you're all of a sudden mad that Tia identifies as black (as she always has) then yea that smacks of jealousy, insecurity etc etc. When ppl react out of emotion not from facts then it's.... emotional.

Yes unambiguous Black! 2 unambiguous Black parents! And I do hate how we as a general collective are so drawn to having biracial and or multiracial women represent us, due to our own erasure and disregard by others first. I hated how we in general claimed Megan Markle, when she herself has mentioned she does not live or move as a Black woman, and only was referred to as such when she married a red headed Brit, and was othered by a dynasty that profited from oppression. Please.

​@@marie-francoiset9402 she doesn't suddenly feel mad, every unambiguous BW sees the same, we get gaslighted for calling it out like you are doing

For what it’s worth I as a biracial ambiguous woman do not think unamibigiously black women are acting sour for not enjoying this image replacement. Be vocal about it- the right people will support you.

It is. That’s where the “good hair” thing came from. People have been fetishizing straight to loose curly hair FOREVER

@@TheLovesnowangel Not "people" BLACK people been fetishizing type 1-3

@@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068 not just black people tbh, all this bs comes from white supremacy being shoved down everyone's throat to this day post colonialism. Look at how non black people talk about mixed kids for example.

It is, it's called texturism...these are big in the black community...colorism, featurism, and texturism!

@@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068 Come on😑 it’s not just black people, you’re acting as though white supremacy was never a thing

What does dark skin got to do with this subject. I am brown skin and got super thick tight afro hair.

@@ladybird491 I can't speak for you. I'm only speaking from my perspective.

you’re even nigerian!🙌❤️

I’m mixed and I’ve been saying for forever. Bi- racial people are not black !! Ffs

@@ladybird491 dark skin women bettah

😩 Why? They are stupid as hell.

I always get told my hair would look so beautiful and long if only I relaxed and it would mess me up

I cringed reading this 😵‍💫😬 That’s so disrespectful

Omg lol

“I love your hair”vs “when are you getting your hair done”

Tia has always been one of my favs but I have to admit that she fumbled this one… like seriously bffr 🫠

@@MamacitaNatural have you ever seen Family reunion? She been towing this line.

It’s as if Tia has a white mother (she doesn’t) she sounds clueless when it comes to Blackness. Mixed Race identity is allowed, let the one drop rule die, tia can represent mixed race people but not Black women

@@MamacitaNatural For real… I did not expect this from her. Maybe her twin sister, but not her🫠…

I sometimes say “you point me to an outlier and I will point you out a lie or a liar”.🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

🏆

no she hasn't. she was forced to straighten her hair. you don't have to agree with her. fine. but you don't know her experience eihter.

Biracials can be really clueless most of the time.

​@@marie-francoiset9402 Um, as an avid Sister Sister watcher, I know that they have worn then hair curly for exactly half of the show (seasons 1-3 out of 6 total.) Many girls actually wanted to have curly hair like theirs back then. They didn't start straightening their hair until season 4, episode 1, when they had JUST turned 18. Stop the cap. They obviously made a choice for themselves when they were finally able to, or it would have been done when they were children, like it was done to many of us with relaxers. It may have been peer pressure on someone's part, but they were not "FORCED" to do anything. Easily convinced? Definitely. Their hair was the standard though. However, that was the height of Sister Sister popularity & other cultures & races of people started watching the show by then, so that was the most probable factor in the change. Regardless, they were at their height of popularity by then & could have easily moved on to newer auditions. There was no Sister Sister without them. Am I saying an 18 y/o can make sound decisions? Absolutely not!... But their "forced to" & our "forced to" as blackER people is completely different. I didn't have a choice at 9. They did at 18.

@@inactiveaccount6106 ….great to be able to sidestep the reality of THEIR contractual obligations! However, they were the first to wear their curly hair and as they gained in popularity they had to wear their hair straighter to appeal to the mass audience. It’s a numbers game, if you didn’t know that. Most film and print prefer straight hair. Even white and Latinas with heavy wavy and curly hair eventually straighten their hair. WS standards impacts everyone!

Funny that inspite of all other issues hair textures take priority!Guess that explains the state we're in😢!

​@@barbararichardson2747sad that in these times people are still being discriminated because of hair and it is such an important topic! 😢 We should talk about it so it gets to be not such a big issue! (P.S we can focus on more than one issue at a time 🙄)

100% You just made me think. I've NEVER gotten a compliment on my hair in its natural shrunken state even if its patted nice and "neat". I only get praise for making my hair not look like my natural state.

This comment. This entire concept in itself. Is so unrealized. Wow. I’m now looking at all natural hair influencers differently. Thank you for sharing this.

I'm assuming you're speaking of men, (bm?) complimenting you? I know plenty of men who absolutely adore my friends large but tightly coiled afro. But it usually isn't bm.

Sis, you said a word cuz every. Single. Time I get twist my end goal is for my hair to look like those biracial girls from tv. And I’ve been “natural” for years but wouldn’t step foot outside with it out unless it had some kinda “twistout” look. Wow…just wow.🫤

exactly

You know how sanitary napkins are ranked from light - heavy on the labels? I would love it if all these hair products rebranded their labels to be on a 1a-4c on a scale too. That way no one is left out. All blacks don’t have 4c, some have 2a yet there are even some white people who have puffy 3a hair anyway and everybody in between. I agree that mixed folks should stop trying to be the face of black folks especially when it comes to hair. They don’t have to do anything to make it look “good” for society unlike homogenous blacks.

@shikabane🐉hime I agree

That's why i feel like the natural hair movement should have just been limited to 4 type hair. That way there would be no room for texturism. Girls with 4 type hair are the ones who need uplifting, other hair types already had it. So now they get to just reinforce their hair superiority once again

@@AnimeBoysOnly that reminds me of what happened with the body positivity movement. it started with fat people ans they brought in people from the other side of the spectrum, recognizing that there was still some messaging making them feel lesser than. and then magically, people with more widely accepted body types became the face of the movement, so it just began reinforcing all the old fatphobia

@EggyMurphy good point! The ironic part about that is that thin figures are still the universal standard. It only became a body positivity issue because some thin women were jealous of the attention women with curves now get. At the end of the day they dont face discrimination like plus sized women. Not dismissing it, but it's not the same.

This is actually reality. Most so called AA people really are not. Just as you've came here, many (or their parents/grandparents) have too and are lumped into our ethnic group.

I agree with you 100% as a biracial woman (with an African black mother as well). My hair has always been praised by people, saying how pretty my curls are etc. I don’t understand this as well not willing to admit they are biracial and that the struggles are simply not the same.

Same here. My mom is African American. I feel like it’s a lil different bc we have Black mamas maybe? I always felt my mentality was different than those biracial kids that had shot mom’s

the african situation is totally different from AA. it's not comparable.

You are a literal pick me, as a biracial with a Xhosa African mom that grew up in Africa & in several other countries, I was the only person wearing my natural hair as it was. Im 3c/4A and where I grew up I was grocery made fun of, mocked & even bullied for my hair. Stop speaking for all of us. If that wasn’t your experience, cool but you are not the representative.

@@DStrawberry77 it doesn't matter you still not black nor will you ever be a black women

@LoveJones well that's what happens when you're mixed, you're literally a result of two races mixing, you're not supposed to "fit" in

I completely understand that, but I also love my white grandma. I’m sure the girl in the video does too it’s weird not to claim her.

It's all about social power, the same people would be saying they're "white" back in Alabama 1822. They're "black" because it's cool now....in reality they're both, and desperately seek to have social power.

Biracial only claim black when it's cool or there is a financial incentive to do so point in case tia mowry

Maybe her white side bullied her? We don't know Tia's experience. My Black family has always been most comforting and kind to me, while my Mexican side is kind of toxic, the other kids made fun of my hair and called me a clown. That does happen to mixed people in blended families quite often. I identify more as Black than Hispanic. Most people don't know what I am though, but it honestly doesn't matter to me what anyone thinks. Just because we are not full black does not mean we have more privileges. I feel the creator is speaking a lot of ignorance and needs to speak with more mixed kids and women before speaking of our experience.

Are you sure it not that its just unmanageable and manipulating it makes it more manageable for you??Im 3c 4a texture and manipulating my hair makes it more manageable with styling. If i dont I cant even get it a ponytail because its so thick. Just a thought girly!

Why would you stop styling your bc of people opinions ? Do you.

That's weird

Now if only they'd stop making real black girls look quirky and weird with those creepy outfits and hairstyles Dark skinned girls can be JUST as beautiful as Beyonce. They don't all have to look like aliens that just visited from an African planet (not country)

But lupita is African... white people have no problem with Africans they hate black Americans

Same girl! I am North African. Dark skin with 2C hair. I never know where I fit into the natural hair and world. I stopped pressing my hair and doing chemical straightening so I am completely natural but I never had “bad hair” and my hair was always praised by other brown people. I love all brown people hair, especially kinky hair that is locked and I believe we were all born with the hair that suits our features best ❤️

@@samiyaferguson9177if that’s you in the profile picture you are definitely not dark skinned

Hello all my goddess from all over the world. As someone who is a black American black looking with a 4crown ok Tia Mowry being then representation for black hair is interesting. So my own mother is not 4c, however it's not the best pr . I would love to see dark skinned black woman show all our ranges of hair. Like our goddess said we are used to seeing this type of hair on this type of phenotype . In the 90's it was the exception now its the standard. Ma'am your rubbing your hands together and gliding your fingers through with some type of product. I'm a black woman and that ain't happen over here at 4crown Town!!

@@samiyaferguson9177 ​ but the issue is that 4C hair is rarely praised or accepted. It’s often mocked and excluded even in the movements that were originally meant to uplift it ( i.e., the natural hair movement) and hijacked by looser curl patterns. I’m also East African. This sentiment of praising looser curl patterns is seen throughout the African continent and is often associated with how far away it is from some “Black features”.

@gt345My thoughts exactly

Exactly sis! Best comment here❤❤

THANK YOU.. I JUST SAID THIS.. I AM FULLY BLACK WITH SIMILAR HAIR TEXTURE.. WTF ARE WE STILL TALKING BOUT HAIR

Yup I’m light skin with 4c hair, braids have helped tremendously lol my dad is black, my mom is black/white, genetics man

Hmmm I hate to stir the pot but isn't that curly texture that Eritreans/Ethiopians often have basically due to their Arab ancestry? I'm not so sure that they would be any different from the racially ambiguous women that Mayowa is talking about here. They don't represent "black hair" any more than someone like Tia does.

@@rushpeezi I'm "fully black" as in both of my parents are black but I do have European ancestry that accounts for why I have a similar hair texture. I totally get what Mayowa is saying. Although I have 3c/4a hair, it is not what should be considered true black hair the way it is presented in the media. I've seen my hair texture on Jews, Arabs & Hispanics. It's like when there is a conversation about black representation in media & all the examples of "see, we ARE putting more black people out there!" are images of all racially ambiguous black people. Even hair care ads for black women are notorious for showing racially ambiguous black women. I remember ads like these in Essence & Ebony back in the day.

Tamera Mowry even said on an episode of The Real that her kids are black because she is black. I just rolled my eyes. This was during a conversation where they were defending Paris Jackson’s blackness against Joselyn Hernandez who was calling Paris a white girl. Chile….

@@FitBabe and Meaghan Markle. I love her, but the British press makes it seem like she is homogeneously Black, clearly she is mixed but blends in with white people.

@@-_Somebody_ the way Normally mixed people in the UK are seen as as just that MIXED, but they are trying to make it seem like Meghan is black

@@tsuyuasui7297 yes, agreed. we are saying the same thing.

We’re black to every ethnicity except black.

" from the back" that was mos Def no cap!!-

Reminds me of how every Netflix shows “black girl representation” Is usually a mixed woman with a much looser texture and more than likely on the lighter end of the spectrum. Fear street really pissed me of with that one bc w/ the brother being dark skinned & kinkier hair they had EVERY REASON to also cast a lead female with the same traits.

@@blessgodess5146 i had to start laughing when she did that like she cannot bc serious

My aunt is a dark skin fully black woman with tia exact hair type ........but I guess she isn't black since according to y'all in the comments black folks don't have hair like this

@@stoneyhighhigh3677 the tunnel vision in this thread is astounding. if Tia denied her blackness they would *still* be up in arms. ridic

I don't think this applies universally because experiences vary in everyone's environments. Tía makes the effort to hold on to her black roots and black identity; I accept it. Her ad, no. When we're talking about black hair in general, her hair doesn't resemble mine and her ad failed to capture my attention. But she can definitely be that representation for her children who are unmistakingly black, and I'm sure she encourages them to feel pride in that.

@@zurifrommissouri No, she can't because at the end of the day. She's biracial the only way you can be black and that's it. Is when you have two black parents. It is what it is also, why can't biracial people use this same logic on their non black side?.

@@blackwomenpowerbyalainaray4047 because Whyte people won't let them but for some reason people have a problem when we do the same.

@@zurifrommissouri So can a Whyte women birth a black child?

But genetics is complicated and not all biracial people (eg Black/white) look the same. They can vary in skin tone, facial features and hair texture

Black hair Being a mixed type of texture is not always from the white master lineage. There are alot of Africans from East to West that imhavs seen have thus texture. It very well can be mixing in the blood line, how ever in my experience I find it interesting that even though I look black I have three three grandparents that are mixed race and I think I'm the only which is generalizing with 4c hair. I have a dark skinned grandfather who had this mixed hair. In conclusion mixed hair is black hair , however it's the representation that it's always on a light or mixed person!

@BlessGodess I agree with most of this, but when I think of someone who represents black hair here in America, I think of afro-textured, type 4b/4c curls because that represents the majority of black women in America and represents those who have dealt with the most harsh discrimination and criticism of their hair.

Hair texture has nothing to do with having white ancestors. In Africa there are black ppl with straight curly hair. Some Ethiopians, Somalians and some East African tribes have straight or curly hair. Black doesn’t have one hair texture. Not even in my family. We all full black with hair textures from straight to kinky. Y’all not gonna talk bad about Tia 😂. She’s my favorite twin

@@blessgodess5146 people are So uneducated and have probably never been outside the US. Your comment is priceless

@Robyn you are being dishonest. The amount of blacks born with natural blonde and red hair is a very small percentage so why would the minority represent the majority? Reality is is that most of us have kinky hair textures and that is ok because it's beautiful. Instead of us having self love and accepting our type 4 hair we are fighting to "all hair textures matter" the natural hair movement and that's problematic because it reinforces texturism

Just talking to my husband about this tonight. I’ve never seen 5 commercials in a row and each had black ppl in it! Last night was the first time BUT!!!!….. 4 of the commercials were blk men with non blk women and the last was an African woman with a yt man! The promotion is strong out here! Why is it a crime to see a dark husband who has a wife that is the same or darker complexion?

You're absolutely right, and not to take away from your point, but my parents are full Black, but my sister is about Sondra's complexion, while the rest of us are Aunt Viv #1's complexion. It happens sometimes, but still, your point is accurate.

@@citizencoy4393 it's a deliberate tool by WS.

And not only are bm characters only played by BM they ALWAYS happen to be darkskinned or at least darker than the female "black character" I've seen so many sitcoms where the spouse is this lightskinned mixed woman and the husband is black and darkskinned. The only show I've seen where they used a darkskinned black woman as the wife and a lightskinned husband was thats so raven. Writing this also makes me think of this Disney channel show named "Kc undercover" wherein zendaya is the main character and the character who plays her mom in the show is a lightskinned mixed woman while the man who plays her dad is à darkskinned black man, oh and *suprise* the only boy in the family happens to be black and darkskinned too🥴 AND THEN ( oh wow as I'm writing I'm just remembering more and more BS ) the only darkskinned black girl on the show is a ROBOT and has no emotions and is extremely sassy/mean......

Its not unrealistic that Cliff and Clair can produce a sondra or denise. We carry the dna of our ancestors and those genes can show up whenever so even if its recessive in you it may show up in your offspring.

Black people are also at faults for this

Per Tia's ancestry test she is actually 60% white.

My mixed (black and white) cousin married a white man and her daughter has blue eyes and blond hair. My younger cousin is a white girl with a black grandfather! We need to stop pretending that anyone who has black ancestry is black. Edit - I surely can’t claim to be white because I had a white great-grandfather!

@@salorchi84 wow! Not surprised tho… she is her daddy

When her hair is dry, it is 3b-3c..so her hair is clearly mixed hair but she shouldn't be representing black hair! Only 4a-b-c!

Which was in all likelihood r*p*d into the bloodline. By NO means should we shame one another our ourselves if we have phenotypes as a result of such brutality, but neither should we praise it. Ditto, if it's from consensual, loving relationships. To your point, I'm also not a fan of denigrating the most naturally occurring characteristics of our race, particularly in exchange for extolling what's natural to others in theirs.

Yes, so many people in the comments are saying this bs rn. it's sickening. and not in the good way lol

There are black people who have no mixed or white lineage with "good hair" but you out here criticizing people when you aren't even educated or aware because you choose to be

@@aprilchow-chee5281 you just proved the point the original poster stated. An exception is not the rule.

Yes. We can have many different textures or patterns. But those with looser patterns know the deal and shouldn’t front. For those like me who are mixed but with tightly coiled hair, we often get told “ you aren’t supposed to have that hair”. Like anyone is not supposed to look how they were made.

I can relate. I'm light skinned with 4 type hair too and the way I was programmed as a kid to have it straightened was ridiculous. I've been natural since 2007 and now I wish somebody would say something disrespectful about my kinks! I wear my hair proudly now and I don't feel pressure to twist it so it can have definition because the world needs to make space for our hair type the way it has for everyone else's. We exist too

I’m so glad you are standing up to your mom! Go you! I’ve had insecurities about my type 4 hair by being bullied in grade school, but I’ve been natural for years too. Be proud of your hair!!!

My husband asked me if I comb my hair then proceeded to pull it. I’ve had issues since then. This was after I took my locs out, my hair was long but it’s like he thought it would be a looser texture. My hair is not loose. I’ve never spoken to him about how much it affected my confidence to wear my hair. It did.

I can relate to that my nan done the same thing I didn't care because everyone else liked my hair out

My father is Nigerian and my mother is German, I inherited my father's hair texture my mother kept relaxing my hair to the point I was just losing hair.

Right! Just from listening to many biracial speak, they often talk about not fitting in so they feel a need to choose. Tia clearly chose the "black side." But like you said, you can embrace both.

Alot of people take her serious.. I have 3B hair and I consider my hair as black hair since there are variations not just one type. And none of yall can change anything about that

@@justinethomas5020 and you should sister. If you are pro black you should stand with it in all shades and textures.

Tia is not Black, Tia’s hair texture is not Black hair. It’s not even kinky-curly. It’s curly-straight, aka NOT BLACK. Stop trying to still include but exclude Biracials.

@@j.rising7286My mistake: that would was supposed to be *wouldn't I'll clarify that I mean that she's still considered to be black even as a biracial. I'm using that as an example of what a lot of people keep focusing on. The definition of blackness instead of the fact that she doesn't fit it

@@j.rising7286 the way there are black people with her hair texture, however she still ain't black.

This! And the curly haired "black" folks in the comments are trying to argue like this isn't the case and hasn't been the case for centuries

I think Tia and Tamera fit the sociological sense of the word black pretty closely except for her hair. Growing up as a little kid in America whose fully Nigerian father was lighter than Tia and Tamara, I always saw them as black when watching sister sister. I probably just assumed they had a texturizer lol I don't think I realized that was their natural hair. My grandfather on my dad's side was Nigerian and was pretty much white passing and his kids (uncles/aunts)were very light skinned but with black features (my grandma was a dark skinned Nigerian woman and so is my mom). So I personally see my father as a black Nigerian man with light skin so maybe that skews my view. But I personally think my dad fits black phenotypes except for his skin color. He also has type 4 hair. Like 4a. I'm saying this because I personally do consider Tia and Tamera too be black although their hair does not represent black hair because it is not the sociological phenotype of black hair (which would be type 4 hair).

that's made up. We don't know enough about slavery to know if being in the house meant you were favored. More likely what skills a slave had made your position higher or lower. Not the complexion. We really do need to have more realistic slave movies (yes the ones everyone keeps saying that they don't want to see). Because the young generation refuses to READ. *ALL* AAs are mixed. it's something that AAs have a hard time accepting due to it being from rape from slavery. Don't just accept what someone in a comment section says. Including me. Go read and investigate for yourself. .

Good for you

@@marie-francoiset9402 , ALL AA are not mixed. We come in many shades, said, The Lord. IN fact, the HOLYSPIRIT said all people have some AFRICAN Blood because we were FIRST, the ORIGINAL GENE and all people come from us.

yeh same. I wonder your age. I identify as black mixed but I know it's considered a strange term. I'm over 40 in the UK and my generation of mixed black people has always identified as black. Through this kind of education I now add 'mixed' but I can't let the black label go.

@@Options23 very very few AAs aren't mixed. There are zero 100% black African AAs. Even the darkest of AAs are mixed. Slavery was 400+ years. It is what it is. if you're AA check your dna test. go to a reputable one. no need to take my word for it. enjoy!

Oh my godd what is this real black hair?! Have you been to Tchad, Ethiopia ( where I’m from) where you will see various type of hair texture?! Men, white supremacy in America really fucked up black America !

I think what makes this difficult is that you guys in America don't have a in between because bi racial people are also labeled black. In South Africa we have white ,black and colored which is for biracial people they know they are not black or white but a mixed race .

There is no such thing as “ real black hair”. All blacks people have different types of hair and it’s wrong to single everyone out just because you feel insecure about your self . The truth us many black women with 4C don’t support themselves enough and instead follow others . You have to learn to love yourself and no one can do that but you . Take ownership .🤷🏾‍♀️

I love the iridescent lipstick! I gotta learn how to do that!

right! like, girl you WERE the media.

The producers of the show made them relax their hair when they got older and stopped looking cute. There is a lot of trauma from that experience that she probably feels like there was no representation for her and she had to straighten her hair in order to keep the network happy. On the other hand Jennifer freeman was allowed to keep her hair in its natural texture so I can understand where Tia is coming from. She just shouldn’t classify her hair or her race as black

Exactly she had to be her own representation!!!! So explain who did she have that was mainstream in their time to have hair like that ....let's not forget they started getting treatments point is black hair comes in all textures

regular bw don't understand the industry. it has been a fight for bw actress' to have proper hairstylists to do their hair. many either had to straighten their hair whether they wanted to or not. So, no Tia's natural hair *was not* the representation when she was coming up because she was forced to relax it. She's not comparing herself to bw with 4C hair. People just want to be angry at her instead of understanding where she's coming from. It's only now that the union has made it a requirement for a hairstylist who can do black be on set (if there is a black lead). It's been a long fight.

@@melanatedmulatta7319 you're correct! bw don't understand Tia's perspective so they are projecting their anger onto her. But she can classify herself as black. She is black and white. And identifies with her black side. She has the option to do either or.

People with privilege have a hard time seeing that they aren't the most harmed. It's genuinely so odd as all these people have to do is work through their trauma from childhood and then look around at people with more intersecting identities.

Light skin black women are unambiguous Balck women… I think society has gaslighted us into associating anything that isn’t dark with whiteness. We need to just throw whiteness in the trash can as a reference point and recognize the truth of our diversity as fully Black people

@@mewmew6158 you say that so casually. so shouldn't everyone work through their trauma? including the bw with 4C hair? They suffered trauma from the families. But instead of working through it they want to say only their hair texture is *real* black hair. No. That's not true at all.

@@marie-francoiset9402 Everyone should work through their trauma, yes. However, saying that black women with coily hair only have trauma from their family is wrong. It's also wrong to insinuate that it's totally fine for biracial women with curly hair to make their hair out to be thee example of black hair, because there's a range. Coils are most common for people that are unambiguously black, so if one texture deserves the black hair title it's coils, not curls.

@@mewmew6158 well that's your opinion of course. You are are free to not buy her products. However, black hair comes in all textures. And not always the result of someone being biracial or mixed. It's true. textured hair (i prefer that term over the coily vs curly debate) trauma doesn't only come from family. it can come from a job. apparently Tia was made to feel ashamed of her hair by studio execs and forced to straighten it. It was only *this* year that the union passed the rule that hairstylists trained in textured natural hair *have* to be hired by the studios if there is a black principle. Prior to this black actresses were left to fend for themselves while everyone else got a hairstylist on set. And yea, thats been traumatic for many black actresses (and not all famous ones). However, the comments in this thread are not considering Tia's perspective at all. And are also attempting to gatekeep blackness by saying only dark skinned bw with 4C hair with two 100% black parents are black. That's ridiculous. Especially if you are AA. Also comments complaining about family members telling them they didn't have "good hair*. That's a family and an internal issue. If Tia is creating a hair product based on her brand, its foolish to think she's not going to use herself. There are dsbw everywhere in the media today. dsbw don't seem to see or support them. But they see one video by a black woman who is biracial and they get triggered. the whole hair type classification thing was made up by Oprah's hairdresser anyway. It's not real. all it has done is cause further dissension.

Are they racist in peru¿

@@tsuyuasui7297 I did not experience any blatant racism nor did I peep if I was being treated differently. Side note: I had my natural hair out, mostly blown out and big. So with that I stood out a lot aside from being one of the few black tourist there. The staff at the apartment where I stayed were kind and respectful. While I was there I hung out around one Afro-Peruvian and one Afro-Venezuelan. One dark skin and the other fair, but not light skin, light skin, ya know. Both have experienced blatant racism-the same as I have here. They have seen anti-black graffiti as I have seen here in the U.S. Each have their stories. I also witnessed each be shown much love and admiration from white Peruvians. You get where I’m going with this. I never felt like I wasn’t welcomed. I did feel out of place but only because there were not many black people walking around with an Afro 🤷🏾‍♀️, sooo the looks were to be expected. Now the energy behind those looks I can’t say if they were negative or positive and nor did I care. My experience there was amazing af and I still have so much to see, so I’ll be returning in the future 😊.

Yes there is already the line called mixed chicks, pattern beauty, deva curl represents loser curls, likeeeeee lol so many

It's a time machine in alot of South American countries...not much afro/black representation in media

I seen a video were a white lady said she only dates black so she can keep her generation going because the ozone layer will eventually kill white skin🥴🥴

i'm so here for her buttlerfly era , these looks are so coooool

Look at all the Black folks trying to make Megan Markle black. She doesn't want to be black and doesn't identify as black.

I totally agree!

Way to divide yet include but yet divide people considered black but not really

@@aprilchow-chee5281 that's the point. Asians don't let Caucasians say they asians, Jews, Europeans, White Americans, Australians, etc don't do it. East Indians and West Indians don't do it. Asians: Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Thailand don't do it. Asians don't include Hawaiians, Samoans .... and lastly the entire continent of Arica don't do it. Likeee the most loud experience about being black is how too many of our ppl stay wanting to be someone else instead of building and protecting our OWN culture and traditions. smh Its embarrassing. Like hanging out with that one friend that does anything to be included or liked by other. The insecurity of black Americans will continue to be manipulated and used against us with statements like yours.

@@aprilchow-chee5281 it’s not divisive, biracial people are different from mono-racial black people and those distinctions deserve to be made..especially in a white supremacist culture where one will get overshadowed because of their lack of proximity..just the way it is

Yeah I noticed and I have followed her ALOT recently and associated with all white ppl

What!!!!!!! Omg

What season and episode number was that?

@@TeaWitcher they put the girl in black face and a 4c wig and everything, it was soooooo offensive

Exactly

They NEVER fight to be white

I'm sure just the other day, these people were campaigning for their own racial category?

You can define yourself as biracial. Barack Obama can call himself a black man. Being part black in America for all intents and purposes does mean that you are black because the people who designed the country designed it that way. Race has no genetic significance, only a social one. A bi or multi racial person can choose to align themselves and define themselves however they like. Being a member of one or more races doesn’t give you license to gate keep how other people define themselves.

Look, let's just be real, in America, if when you walk out your door, people see a "black" person, you are treated like a "black" person, you experience the overall "black" life and interactions, like another "black" person, and no one sees you as your other bloodline, then at least in America, you are a "black" person. Now, I'm not going to ignore the fact that in the black community you're really a bi- mixed- ambiguous- race person and you shouldn't be the top representation for black people in America, but I'm not going to all of a sudden tell you that you can't embrace your African roots and associated identity, just because the typical black person doesn't look like you or have hair and skin, like you do. I'm honestly commenting, because in America at least in the part that I'm from, black people, myself included, are typically not descendants of two, pure slave-trade African-descendant parents- in my bloodline is slave-trade African descent, but also long-lost Native American, some kind of South-of-border Latino, German, and Irish, at the very least, and I'm light-skinned with a big nose, full-lips, fairly large forehead, and fairly kinky and dry hair. But, when I walk outside, go past police, shop in the store, talk culture and heritage, in America, I'm not mixed- ambiguous- race, I'm black and there's nothing that I can do about it- not even moving will help, because I'll never be accepted as Native American, Latina, nor "white", not even "?" in another ethnicity group.

You American? Cause in my country there is NO representation. Don't talk bs please you can't talk for every mixed people on the planet.

U are dead wrong bc a white women couldn't understand my hair struggles nor could they understand how to do my hair we don't fit in with white ppl bc we aren't white we are black and ppl like u are the definition of why we can't identify with our blackness either bc u generalize us and act like all of out hair is the same when I probably have thicker less cute and curley hair then u

@@queenkenya2634 hey babes. Lol. It wasn’t me who said it, it was a fellow biracial. Ijs. 🤷🏾‍♀️ SHE said she was looking to identify with her WHITE family and would hold up her palm and try to match their skin color. In this case there is no generalization and we are speaking Tia and biracial women with hair like HER. If it doesn’t apply….😁 then let if fly right?

As someone that’s biracial my experience isn’t trying to fit in with white people. It’s being raised by white people who talked down on my hair. I have an aunt who constantly says look at your hair or you look crazy still to this day when my hair is frizzy or out of control I have 3b hair, she constantly told my sister she was lucky because she has wavy hair. Growing up I did suffer with a lot of insecurities due to my hair because I grew up around so many people who made me feel I looked better with my hair straight. But then when you’re comparing it to women with more coarse hair you see it’s even worst discrimination the more I was around black people I realized they seen my hair differently then white people. Some mixed people are only a product of their environment and really have no clue. Our white family constantly reminds us how black we are so that’s how we view ourselves, but then fully black people look at us crazy like no you’re biracial not black which I understand because fully black women should be represented in positive ways. This is just some insight because I see it from both sides now , It’s just like skin tone as someone who is light skin I still receive racism but I see darker skin people treated worst more often.

@@BoHeauxDo you remember her Tiktok name?