When NOT to Bluff in Poker!!!

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4 жыл бұрын

Bart Hanson covers a hand demonstrating when not to bluff.
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@Turtleshellgaming 4 жыл бұрын

15:55 u dont have to win every hand btw

@mooseduty5426 4 жыл бұрын

Feel like the guy is missing the point. The Villian isn't checking the river with Ax, 45, or 56 of clubs but is checking with some showdown value like Qx of clubs 9s 10s or nutted hands that check to induce missed clubs. Any 8x hand bets for value and all full houses bet for value. The check on the river by the Villian screams Qx of clubs. Bart luv the vids...Bgood

@Jora7845 3 жыл бұрын

Off don’t teach fishes how too play 😂 it was great move jam all in with nothing👍 I’m sure he would do same with value 🙌.

@salimajahimha 4 жыл бұрын

Best poker content by a mile. How this channel has not got like 100k subscribers is madness...I kinda like it though for selfish reasons

@jasonwright2291 3 жыл бұрын

Everything about this channel is on point. Bart is great, no fluff, and he discuss old and new school of thought. Such great content we need more support for this guy.

@ikickpuppies01 3 жыл бұрын

I have liked this content from the 1st one I watched. Now, with more time on my hands, I get the chance to really absorb all this great information. Even in cheap games, listening to Bart has helped with leaks. I wish all the vlogs/streams/etc. were around 10 years 15 years ago. Would have saved a lot of pain.

@kevinalexander6440 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the content!

@rvoykin 9 күн бұрын

I love the moment and a lot of his hands were Bart officially declares that he would never be in this position lol

@moritzretter3976 3 жыл бұрын

OOP is supposed to Check snapcall river because IP didn't jam the turn which removes some of his storngest hands so he has a draw very often.... Just one point you seem to forgot to mention... anyways nice video! subbed

@nvgu94 4 жыл бұрын

I guess I won't bluff here because: 1. I'm blocking the flush draws that he might be on (which would fold to a river bluff shove) 2. I'm not sure what hands would lead/call raise flop and then lead turn against 2 players. Sounds like a really good hand that wants to protect against a flush draw or a really strong draw that has more equity than KcTc. 3. KcTc has some showdown value here, beats most missed flush draws, beats all of the missed straight draws. 4. Opponent could certainly check to induce H to bluff, which could definitely hold a hand like KcTc. So yes, I'd check the river here.

@UpByYou 4 жыл бұрын

He leads turn against one player only, BTN folded flop. And I like to level myself with the MW adjustements aswell (mw : multi way) but I often find out that recs don't really care about it. You'd be stunned of the moves they make MW, like bluff cbeting with complete air on a wet board against 5. For the rest, I completly agree with everything you said, especially the K high showdown value since is he really donking nut flush draw ? I really don't think so

@Fred-rg5vw 9 ай бұрын

Seems like best way to play a big hand is to bet it.. Eg flop trips , after set mining. "Nobody leads out with trips" Is the conception perhaps misconception ..an eg of it that I'm meaning.

@paulviggiano5296 3 ай бұрын

Your patience is amazing

@Dexerion 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is a vloger now, Lexo Poker.

@timsullivan4566 3 жыл бұрын

As usual Bart's view makes total sense.

@superkng 3 жыл бұрын

Cute mug!!!

@stevewido9832 2 жыл бұрын

Bart is the best.

@ilovebrandnewcarpets Жыл бұрын

I know I’m two years late here, but this is Lex O. He probably hadn’t even started his channel yet when he called in here

@christophermanning6146 4 жыл бұрын

I like this video, so I hit the like button.

@buggaboo2707 Жыл бұрын

minor correction... donk lead is for $50. It sounds like he said 60, but also he said 2 green chips... I have never seen a chip worth 30, could be 50's I guess and gets change back though... anyway when he discusses his flop raise he says 50 more clearly

@1981lemberg 3 жыл бұрын

Where do these people play? LOL I want some of that money

@robthebuilder2997 2 жыл бұрын

Is hero lexopoker..?

@Steven_Snary-TBR 4 жыл бұрын

Isn't this just a common float the flop, bet the turn for the villain? Because when I see a board 8,3,2 like this is missing most of the hands Hero is leading out with. Most Broadway combo doesn't like this. But many people will Cbet to get a fold right? So, C bet, call. Villain lead out.

@compteofficiel4112 4 жыл бұрын

i learned a lot from this one...seeing how people react to "unorthodox" plays is really giving me a lot of new ideas. anytime "everyone" does something a certain way windows of opportunity open up. imagine if villain had just read supersystem and actually had the set and led into the preflop raiser here, for example....it wasn't even mentioned that he might have a set, was it?

@tavishmcdonell6615 4 жыл бұрын

Bruce M. Bart mentioned that these players are very unlikely to lead out with sets (their range is capped to marginal pairs and draws when they lead).

@timb4248 4 жыл бұрын

My leading range in this spot is literally only sets don't tell anyone.

@pokerqAK47 4 жыл бұрын

So weird, I’d lead out with a set here if I ever lead

@Savsal12 Жыл бұрын

I’m leading g out with a set 80% of the time when two suits hit the flop.

@timb4248 4 жыл бұрын

I might make the cheap bluff on hand just to target Ax clubs. Maybe level him into folding 77 or something dumb. But I'm not betting big and walking into AQcc or JJ that puts us on clubs or AK.

@novapokerplayer207 4 жыл бұрын

Even though it didn't work in this case, I kind of like his river jam, especially against someone who seems like a tighter player. He played it like he had Kings or Aces, and a thinking tighter player knows those holdings are very possible, which is why he had to think about it. It also just happens to be tough for the villain in this case to put him on busted clubs because he's blocking a lot of those combinations. The villain really can only beat bluffs, and he made a good call.

@timb4248 4 жыл бұрын

@@novapokerplayer207 Yea it's pretty wierd spot. This is such a slam dunk bluff in theory, because we block KQcc and QTcc. But of course the "tight" player shows up with Q9 calling 4x raise from SB lol. This is why Bart just loves value betting these spots because KQ on river is the immortal nuts, and players will love to hero call thinking you have like KK+ or trips for value bets.

@pokerqAK47 4 жыл бұрын

NoVa Poker Player don’t you think AA KK would raise the turn? Looks exactly like missed club draw. If only the V didn’t have clubs too lol.

@joeshab123 3 жыл бұрын

I was certain it was Qx of clubs, I was guessing QJ.

@jimpalmer4392 4 жыл бұрын

you do if flush draw on board.let him have the pot he wants it that bad.maybe 1 call only.

@MrBlack-wt5er 3 жыл бұрын

when you think a "ace high" is good, when you think you have the best hand and don't want check raised off the hand, and I wouldn't triple bet if someone is continuing to call because they have to be calling you with something unless you are sure you have the winning hand and I usually wouldn't bluff the river because your only going to get called by a hand that beats you unless you're not getting any credit from who you're in on the hand with.

@lech.dutkiewicz 3 жыл бұрын

How about shoving the turn against his range? If you put them on 99, TT, maybe some straight draws and a bunch of flush draws, wouldn't this shove be profitable? How can they call with this range? And even if they do, you still have decent equity here. QXcc makes sense, but it's mostly just QJ, because you block other combos. And not every time people call with Q9s, so you can assume that sometimes it's not even in his range. A semi-bluff shove on the turn sounds good? Wouldn't you do the same with your value range here?

@fevolenko3995 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta say I 100% agree with Bart on this one (coz I've disagreed with many others). Perfect breakdown and perfect alternatives at end 👍👍👍

@DavidSmith-ls7zs 3 жыл бұрын

I have seen people play a set like this in the low stakes games.

@rocky2324rocky 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t necessarily think the shove is that bad to be honest . If the hero had a set he would play it exactly the same way except he might raise the turn again but you can make a case about playing slow. And he is holding two clubs which makes it less likely that the oop also has two clubs also. ( which qx makes the most sense )And since villian checked the river it’s less likely that he has a full house or a 8 and hero has all the premium hands like aces and kings which will also shove because villain checked the river. What does the villian think he beats in this spot is the question ? Only a bluff right ? And the villian is blocking clubs he shouldn’t be calling here .

@adamseidel9780 3 жыл бұрын

Nice call by the villain

@TomRauhe 11 ай бұрын

And that's why I 3bet flop HUGE with value after my donk that has value when the "pro" thinks he can get the better with his draws

@TheHardRockG6 4 жыл бұрын

This Sounds Like Lex From Magic City Poker!

@brianjoyce9040 3 жыл бұрын

Always learn from mistakes. He learned, or should have

@Gos1234567 4 жыл бұрын

what is Vs logic for leading turn,some kind of block bet?These wierd plays always confuse me

@compteofficiel4112 4 жыл бұрын

that bet accomplishes a lot, but really i'd call it a value bet to build the pot, because the queen is kind of a scare card and it will get checked back a lot.

@edb7742 4 жыл бұрын

@gerry o sullivan - I think the Villain is confident that he now has the best hand and wants to get some value. I put the Villain on QcJc, so I was close.

@Face_The_Void 4 жыл бұрын

Not too sure V is thinking too much about his overall strategy

@jeremyhahn3612 3 жыл бұрын

@@Face_The_Void I dont understand why nobody thinks this strategy makes sense. Raise the pot and punish anyone chasing a flush draw while having a decent flush draw in your hand.

@cassostrophic7380 2 жыл бұрын

This sounds like Lex O poker

@chrisowen3878 2 жыл бұрын

It is

@tristan2338 3 жыл бұрын

This guys on the nitty side and all-in's at the river with a total bluff ummmmmmmmmmmmm..

@GetOffTheLawn 4 жыл бұрын

How do people remember their hands so exactly? Take notes right after the hand or?

@johnmacdonald2839 4 жыл бұрын

Just be better lol

@calebguest1625 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@tavishmcdonell6615 4 жыл бұрын

GetOffTheLawn Your mind is programmed to remember the times you lost/got screwed by somebody so you can recognize that situation if it comes up again. There’s less of an evolutionary advantage in recalling your victories precisely.

@pokerqAK47 4 жыл бұрын

I remember every big hand and not only. 3 years pro....

@pokerqAK47 4 жыл бұрын

Tavish McDonell no. I remember the ones I won too.

@dspatchin 2 жыл бұрын

LEXO poker!

@pokerqAK47 4 жыл бұрын

Say “how much can you call?” Then pre tip the dealer $5 and move all in. Only that can get you a fold 😂 I called his hand Qxcc on the turn, they love to play suited garbage from sb. You need to know if they can fold it. Some can some can’t.

@FuzzypupPoker 4 жыл бұрын

Flop fine, turn fine. So should we bluff the river. We don't beat 9 combos of Axcc. There are only 3 combos of AQcc, QJcc, Q9cc which won't fold. Say he has 9 combos of sets that made boats/quads and is being tricky. We discount this to 3 combos. Unlikely he has an 8 unless it's quads I thought he could have 99-JJ but why would he bet the turn after being raised. But lets give it 4 combos. So we are targeting that small range + any spazz pair hands like 66 or 32cc. So add in another 3 combos. You can win by checking. But betting is a less -EV play then checking vs his range. I think ~50% of his range that beats us will fold to a $300 bet on the river. We are risking $300 to win $620 so we only have to make fold 33% of his range. He was betting small the whole time which doesn't really tell me he is strong and no bet went over $150. So $300 looks incredibly value like. ok now the results...… well bad results.

@greatwhite3676 4 жыл бұрын

At these stakes people love high connected cards. I was putting him on Qc 9c or better for sure. Especially if he is a WASP over 45. I've seen people show up with AQc of clubs here which is a hand i would 3-bet on the button. Way to sack up and go for it I've had this same thing happen to me. Everybody then thinks you are super loose and you get looked up a lot more. The fun of the game to me is trying to make plays that the average rec player would never do. I like to think i'm playing chess while they are playing checkers.

@RodgerRamjet 4 жыл бұрын

with his weird play, i thought villain had set 2s or 3s, but at the rvr though, his chk, to me, was to induce a bet, which Hero obliged. i think he put hero on Ahigh flush draw, and no pair, which was correct in the end but also pretty stupid, as he easily could have A8 suited, or 78s, 98s, 108s..all of which beat his Q9 easily.. hence why he tanks, talks himself into a call.. despite the massive amount of education "out there' in poker world, and people saying "Oh, Texas holdem is dead, too many educated players, play PLO for the easy pickings".. sorry, there are millions of new poker players who simply sit down, play, and think that is all they need to do to be "better".. Q9 thinks his 9 is good as a kicker.. as if QJ, KQ, AQ arent in heros range.. yea.. see that sh** all the time..

@sesloajit5185 3 жыл бұрын

QJ and KQ arent shoving this river to get value from Qxcc, that's just stupid

@nicks210684 3 жыл бұрын

@@sesloajit5185 also how does hero even get to the turn with QJ/KQ/AQ? Villain has the Q of clubs so hero can’t have a flush draw with any of those hands. So why on earth would hero be raising the flop with the button still to act behind with just two overcards and maybe a backdoor flush draw?

@calebguest1625 4 жыл бұрын

If you don't right after, you'll forget

@huckleberryfinn8795 10 ай бұрын

I knew he sounded like Lex O Poker 😂

@william420adam 3 жыл бұрын

I’d bet 220 just to target A hi fd

@mikeredmond9193 2 жыл бұрын

Is this Lex O poker???

@wawalan1 2 жыл бұрын

Sure sounds like Lex.

@1981lemberg 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely on a turn you pot control and just call. If you don't hit you give up and still have some money left if you do hit obviously you get paid

@lexozias2574 4 жыл бұрын

Bart with the needle in the title . Ooops 🤷🏼‍♂️

@leonando-fh5cg 3 жыл бұрын

If a club came you were paid big time tho

@mrblunderfield 3 жыл бұрын

"He is a tighter player, he dont play the 60% or 50% preflop".

@christopherdowning7776 Жыл бұрын

I only watched till turn, but it could be like 45 clubs… that’s like the only hand that I could see villain doing this with… 🤔

@tklein1872 19 күн бұрын

Is this caller Lex O ??? 😂

@carlgould3097 4 жыл бұрын

The hero has a weak hand(two pair beat) and needs to bluff not only with money but with body language. Since he took some time to make the call, you're body language is 70-80 % of the problem imo.

@aloha270999 Жыл бұрын

I would call on the flop, don't want to put everything on draws. River shove seems very suspicious.

@alexh8613 3 жыл бұрын

With the way that the hand was played until the hero jams on the river, it makes more sense that the hero has the 8. Probably with a medium kicker. He raises the flop when he has top pair. He then just calls when the villain leads out (afraid of being out kicked with the 8 or that the villain just spiked a Queen.) A bet of $200 on the river may get through. However, the all-in for $500 on the river screamed missed flush draw, I'm trying to buy this. Side note, I had the villain on Q-J clubs or 4-5 clubs

@josheisert8380 3 жыл бұрын

Bart said he may just call the turn and take his value. What value? He is far from getting pot odds and even with implied odds to make the call on the turn he would have to first hit his draw and then second get a call for most of his chips on the river with 3 clubs on the board after it went call-call-flush hits board shove. Seems unlikely. I've been watching alot of these videos and right when I'm starting to think there is a method to his madness I see something like this and I'm back to square one. Turn is either fold or shove. I thought for sure he would say calling turn is a losing play but here we are lol

@fevolenko3995 3 жыл бұрын

The value he is talking about is expected value ie EV. He assumes any club is good, a K is likely good and sometimes a T is good too... Im not throwing shade with what im about to say, im trying to help you... Your comment is a quintessential comment from someone who thinks they understand poker a lot more than they actually do. That usually means you're making lots of mistakes, and not expecting certain moves, not able to read opponents cards well and thus making mistakes that lead to more mistakes.. I suggest more study 👍

@ArchaicTTV 2 жыл бұрын

isn't he getting 4 to 1? how is that far from getting pot odds?

@josheisert8380 2 жыл бұрын

@@ArchaicTTV I actually never seen the reply above me I'll address him as well in this post. No he is getting 3:1 which means he has to win 1/4 times to break even. Which means his draw has to be atleast 25% or better. He has 9 outs and one card to come. Times 2 for easy math equals 18% or to be exact 19.2%. If you just make the call you WILL lose money in the long run. Now dude above wants to count a ten or a king as good after all the betting action, which I wouldn't be. When you are on a draw MOST people calculate their outs to what would be pretty much the nuts as that is what most draws will end up being if it comes through. Straights and flushes are our most common hands we are drawing to. In fact most people will take away an out or two when calculating a draw to compensate what their opponents could possibly be holding. Dude above is adding outs that are most likely dead considering the villains hand strength he is representing. He wants to count a ten as an out. LOL have at it buddy.

@josheisert8380 2 жыл бұрын

@@fevolenko3995 I never seen your reply mine was 9 months ago and yours came 6 months after. I missed it somehow. See my reply to the other gentleman. Anyway I know what EV is young man and you are right we all have room for more study.

@1981lemberg 3 жыл бұрын

Why don't you talk about pot controlling? Or is that bad?

@dcrafti 4 жыл бұрын

It was a raise of 50->130, but Bart seems to hear 60->130, which probably changes the analysis.

@davideig4281 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely changes the analysis.

@phil3038 3 жыл бұрын

Erm ...........I've watched around 3 of Berts Videos, And just realised he isnt Doug Polk!! 😂😂🤣

@mumblesbadly7708 2 жыл бұрын

What??? You didn’t immediately notice that the guy on the screen wasn’t wearing a wife-beater?

@timb4248 4 жыл бұрын

No one has mentioned it....but can we just fold turn to that bet? What hands pay us off on river when we hit? Only the exact one he has. He will over-fold club rivers and station blank rivers, just like Bart said. This is why flop raise is so goofy, you are gonna get jammed on this flop by a lot of his good hands, and you only fold out those 66 type hands which were gonna check to you on most turns and rivers anyway. Bart says this board is great for EP....but I think it is better for SB, because he has 22 33 and higher percentage of those suited aces. I'd rather empty the clip with like AcJs here.

@hymnofashes 4 жыл бұрын

Why would he snap check the river with air? He would at least think about bluffing busted clubs. His line screams marginal made hand wanting to get to show down. Trouble is, what marginal made hands are there? An eight is not marginal, so it's got to be a queen or 99-jj. And there are far more qx combos than middle pairs, and that assumes he flats rather than squeezes jj and tt. He might have an under pair, but what under pair takes this bet call lead line?

@fevolenko3995 3 жыл бұрын

Hence why Bart says a smaller bet will work better. Both when you win AND when you lose 👍

@Worldatwarwhore 4 жыл бұрын

14:00 JT of clubs when you have T of clubs lol

@iconicheight1188 3 жыл бұрын

I love the information you share and your delivery. But, only getting through a dozen hands, it's a shame. Maybe having the dialogue edited to get to the heart of the point? But, however I fully like and understand your style and niche, which surely separates you from the other Ok, now V is getting great odds to call on river. Even with bottom pair, the way the hand was played would make me call, even considering Ace high as well. What is villian repping here? 8?, even with that, the hand didn't tell that story. Doubting an 8, he'd have low pairs, flush or straight draw, all of which, despite the huge river bet, I'm calling with my Q all day long. Thinking hero has missed and hasn't given me the impression he has some plan B, e.g.small pair, Ac, my Q is feeling just the best hand Valiant effort, however, if Hero got his huge bet, I'd be very impressed. Much respect.

@jeremyhahn3612 3 жыл бұрын

"9/10 of clubs wouldnt fold on the river." Why wouldn't they fold to a river jam? What does a missed flush and missed straight draw think its beating?

@ikickpuppies01 3 жыл бұрын

You're already beating those hands. I'm 3 gummy bears in. I may be thinking about the wrong hand, plus, hero has the Tc. Either way, I think the river jam is pretty ambitious.

@fevolenko3995 3 жыл бұрын

You've misheard. He said pocket 9 and pocket T isn't folding..

@samgolf99 4 жыл бұрын

I disagree, I think that a lot of decent players will go for a jam with AQ,KK,AA. It’s not rocket science that those hands will often get called by worse in this spot.

@fevolenko3995 3 жыл бұрын

Is this my Mom? Who are you disagreeing with? The only person who mentioned it is Bart, and that's what he said.

@MiKen877 3 жыл бұрын

This guy talking about how he would never be in this situation with Q9 clubs... Does he really think K10 is THAT much better than Q9?

@trevorstrutt1 3 жыл бұрын

I have feeling this guy is mtt player and doesn't realize cash is whole diff world

@shawnlinville7907 2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@lastgenerationofman 4 жыл бұрын

He will fold A4s A5s 23s idk I don’t think it was that bad of a shove.

@compteofficiel4112 4 жыл бұрын

so that's 3 combos...there are dozens of other hands he could have! i don't know, but i'd say the caller lost a lot of money here and was totally outplayed.

@fevolenko3995 3 жыл бұрын

I literally called a guy down today with King high (Kh3h). He was bluffing with QhTh. Good players make reads and bad players give tells. If you think that shoving rivers when your story doesn't add up will be profitable for you vs anyone but super fish... good luck

@santosallday25 4 жыл бұрын

caller if you are min raising then it's hard to criticize his donk lead play. lol. both moves are overwhelmingly busch league, amateur hour Especially on the flop.

@compteofficiel4112 4 жыл бұрын

so you never donk lead, ever?

@culu37 4 жыл бұрын

Bruce M. It’s a bigger leak to have an unbalanced donk lead range than to not have one from the blinds .

@Williy_Nilly 3 жыл бұрын

Although flushes are a nuisance that constantly drain my stack, I still won't play hands like this exactly because of these kinds of spots that are going to happen more often than not.