Where do libertarians stand on the campus wars? | Reason Roundtable | April 29, 2024

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In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman assess the spate of anti-Israel campus protests at universities across the country, followed by another look at the trials of both Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump in New York.
00:00 - Campus protests across the country
31:35 - Weekly Listener Question
38:01 - Harvey Weinstein rape conviction overturned in New York
44:01 - Trump trials continue apace
48:57 - This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"Why Are College Kids Terrified?" a Q&A with Greg Lukianoff and Rikki Schlott by Nick Gillespie
"'Is College 'The Incubator of the Nanny State'? Nick Gillespie Talks with FIRE"
"Animal Farm 1970," by Lanny Friedlander
"Seriousness Crisis," by Liz Wolfe
"School's Out," by Christian Britschgi
"Texas Public Colleges Crack Down on Peaceful Anti-Israel Protests," by Emma Camp
"The Morningside Heights Tent City," by Liz Wolfe
"USC Cancels Valedictorian's Speech Over Bogus 'Safety Concerns,'" by Emma Camp
"There's Nothing Modern About MMT," by Alexander William Salter
"The Fiscal Hawks Were Right About Debt and Interest Rates," by Veronique de Rugy
"Why We Need To Shrink the National Debt, and Fast!" by Nick Gillespie
"Want To Boost Economic Growth? Tell the Government To Spend Less," by Veronique de Rugy
"Thanks for Democracy, Greece, but Don't Let the Door Hit You on the Way Out of 1st World!" by Nick Gillespie
"The Court Was Right To Overturn Harvey Weinstein's Rape Conviction," by Billy Binion
"Alvin Bragg's 'Election Interference' Narrative Is Nonsensical," by Jacob Sullum
"The Alarming Implications of Trump's Immunity Claim," by Jacob Sullum
"At Trump's Trial, a Window Into the Golden Era of Tabloids," by Michael Rothfeld
"Challengers Is the Horny Tennis Movie Hollywood Needs," by Peter Suderman
"Anarchy, State and Utopia," by Eric Mack
Send your questions to roundtable@reason.com. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.
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@thatwasinteresting3319
@thatwasinteresting3319 16 күн бұрын
Here is a way to solve this. Allow the students who were kept from attending classes and graduating be allowed to sue the universities for breeches of contract. You should be allowed to protest ( although I guarantee that most of these “protesters” know very little about this conflict.) but you should not be allowed to disrupt other people’s lives. Just like the asshats that block traffic.
@sanniepstein4835
@sanniepstein4835 17 күн бұрын
Follow the funding. Foreign governments should not be able to buy influence at our institutions. Those institutions shouldn't be state funded in the first place, of course.
@arkansaslibertarian5051
@arkansaslibertarian5051 17 күн бұрын
💯
@bilybak2
@bilybak2 16 күн бұрын
You mean AIPAC?
@doesntmatter4136
@doesntmatter4136 16 күн бұрын
@@bilybak2 lol
@Stumashedpotatoes
@Stumashedpotatoes 14 күн бұрын
@@bilybak2no because AIPAC doesn’t fund the universities
@youarenotme01
@youarenotme01 13 күн бұрын
Nope, not at all, not even close. Follow the money is a low IQ assessment. Begin again, from the beginning and you, and everyone will come to the same answer.
@JackVz
@JackVz 17 күн бұрын
I love it tbh. They've lost control of the monster they've created. That's kinda what you get for being sweet on marxism.
@JPJ432
@JPJ432 17 күн бұрын
Here is an example of kinship that America use to have with its greatest ally back in the day. I think you will enjoy this quote from the Russian Foreign Minister Alexander Gorchakov writing to Lincoln in the Autumn of 1862 a year and a half into the war- "You know that the government of United States has few friends among the Powers. England rejoices over what is happening to you; she longs and prays for your overthrow. France is less actively hostile; her interests would be less affected by the result; but she is not unwilling to see it. She is not your friend. Your situation is getting worse and worse. The chances of preserving the Union are growing more desperate. Can nothing be done to stop this dreadful war? The hope of reunion is growing less and less, and I wish to impress upon your government that the separation, which I fear must come, will be considered by Russia as one of the greatest misfortunes. Russia alone, has stood by you from the first, and will continue to stand by you. We are very, very anxious that some means should be adopted-that any course should be pursued-which will prevent the division which now seems inevitable. One separation will be followed by another; you will break into fragments."
@JPJ432
@JPJ432 17 күн бұрын
Here is another quote I think you will like but from Tsar Alexander II in an Interview after the war: "In the Autumn of 1862, the governments of France and Great Britain proposed to Russia, in a formal but not in an official way, the joint recognition by European powers of the independence of the Confederate States of America. My immediate answer was: "I will not cooperate in such action; and I will not acquiesce. On the contrary, I shall accept the recognition of the independence of the Confederate States by France and Great Britain as a casus belli for Russia. And in order that the governments of France and Great Britain may understand that this is no idle threat; I will send a Pacific fleet to San Francisco and an Atlantic fleet to New York."
@michaellowe3665
@michaellowe3665 16 күн бұрын
Just take away all government funding for universities and let them make their own rules
@Hedgehobbit
@Hedgehobbit 17 күн бұрын
I don't see why this is such a hard issue to solve. They have rules governing camping on school property, just enforce those rules. The idea that as soon as someone says they are "protesting" that all laws and rules no longer apply is a huge stretch of the idea of free speech.
@billstrasburg384
@billstrasburg384 16 күн бұрын
The schools all promote Marxist causes. The professional protesters which may be Soros- or CCP- or even CIA-funded are aligned with the colleges. The colleges have to PRETEND to not like them.
@bellowingsilence
@bellowingsilence 16 күн бұрын
I agree overall, but this also deals with *freedom of assembly.* And while I also feel that laws and rules still apply there, whether those rules should go so far as to inhibit assembly for protest, in a public space, starts to get into contested areas.
@Hedgehobbit
@Hedgehobbit 16 күн бұрын
@@bellowingsilence In the First Amendment, freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble are two separate rights but they have sort of merged over the years. IMO, if you can't do something (such as camp out on private property) when you aren't protesting, you shouldn't be able to do it just because you are protesting. Otherwise, you can just claim to be protesting 24/7/365 and never have to obey various laws. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the land that these protesters are camping on is private property so the owners of that land (i.e. the University) should have the right to tell them to leave.
@user-wl2xl5hm7k
@user-wl2xl5hm7k 15 күн бұрын
@@Hedgehobbit 1st Amendment legally restricts only government actors: *But they’re the free speech standard everyone must reach for!!*
@susanjones7734
@susanjones7734 15 күн бұрын
⁠@@HedgehobbitExactly. You have the right to peacefully protest. Preventing other people from going about their business and blocking traffic is not okay. After awhile, this just turns into a big party and an excuse for the students to not attend classes. I’ve seen reporters ask these students questions about what they are protesting about and many of them don’t even know.
@jub8891
@jub8891 17 күн бұрын
perpetuating division 101.. step 1. "forcing them to pick a side"..
@ScottCleve33
@ScottCleve33 13 күн бұрын
Step 2. "Find out what the majority supports and support the opposite and demonize the masses". If 65 or 75 percent of the people support side A then throw your weight behind side B with propaganda and misinformation. The goal isn't for one side or the other to win but to create and stoke the fires of conflict between the two sides. To the people who want division that is a the ultimate win. There is a political party in this country that would support anything as long as it's opposed the the majority.
@milo8425
@milo8425 16 күн бұрын
First question a libertarian should ask: "are they commies?" Wait; David seriously doesn't think this is downstream of Marcuse and Fanon? Seriously? No wonder he's always off mark. Holy cow dude. Come ON dude. Revisit the sources, it's not only obvious it's explicit.
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 16 күн бұрын
This. "No friends on the Left."
@maxwoodbridge1264
@maxwoodbridge1264 12 күн бұрын
I agree. The openly marxoid students and faculty certainly believw and proclaim that they are doing this in service of the ideology !!
@ArjayMartin
@ArjayMartin 17 күн бұрын
The stance is that all people should be able to peacefully voice their opinions in a non disruptive manner. I just saved y'all more than 1 hour of your life. You're welcome.
@Jinkaza1882
@Jinkaza1882 17 күн бұрын
Protest is protest. As long as it is peaceful I see it as a good thing. Don't like the protestor's reasons? Counter-protest.
@billstrasburg384
@billstrasburg384 16 күн бұрын
It's not a good thing when it is funded by anti-Freedom institutions like the Soros foundation, the Chinese Communist Party, and the militant Islamic propagandist organizations. These are professional protesters in addition to brainwashed students trained in Marxist thought. They are the people who wish the eradication of all Libertarian and individualist thought.
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 16 күн бұрын
I agree the freedom to protest is a cornerstone of stone of the west but where is the line drawn to prohibit that when it’s on private grounds, preventing the freedom of many to take part in paid for lessons and general encroaches on the freedoms of other pupils to go about their daily uni life. Theres no easy arnswer here
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 16 күн бұрын
These kids are pushing people out of areas they have no say over and demanding things they have no right to, on private property.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 16 күн бұрын
@@neilranson4185I saw a video where they were pushing a student away from the building and saying “get him out of here”. It was pretty bad.
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 16 күн бұрын
@@Individual_Lives_Matter hard to know with videos that pick up half way through but I get your point it’s gotten out of hand clearly
@aaronr5675
@aaronr5675 17 күн бұрын
So long as protesting doesn’t impede on students rights to attend school I’m all for it.
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 16 күн бұрын
Haven’t the rights been impeded now with all classes being cancelled and daily uni life completely overturned at the expense of the majority’s rights?
@aaronr5675
@aaronr5675 16 күн бұрын
@@neilranson4185 yeah like I said if no one’s rights have been impeded I’m all for it. Once classes are cancelled I’m not for it.
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 16 күн бұрын
@@aaronr5675 I understand, yeah same here. I clash a lot with friends when we both hate curtain speak such as anti west Islamist or far left deconstruction. They want it banned and see me supporting it as somehow being for their views or helping them. It’s a tough place to be in the free speak camp
@Kodiie
@Kodiie 17 күн бұрын
On the sidewalk on a recliner chair with a beer and a bag of popcorn.
@RoyArrowood
@RoyArrowood 17 күн бұрын
I'm a libertarian and I dgaf
@seanfager8063
@seanfager8063 17 күн бұрын
Thank you. "I don't have an opinion, and don't feel compelled to form one" is an underappreciated stance, especially for Libertarian leaning folks. The amount of time available to us is insufficient to track and assess everything, even just every genuinely important thing. No one can be a net gain if they're spread infinitely thin.
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 17 күн бұрын
If you were a "libertarian" you would believe in their right to protest, regardless of whether or not you agree with them. The fact that you dgaf means you are a hack, like most "libertarians." Yall only believe in liberty for what you agree with.
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 17 күн бұрын
If you were a true "libertarian" you would agree with their right to protest, whether or not you agree with them. Y'all only want liberty for what you agree with.
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 17 күн бұрын
If you were a true "libertarian" you would agree with their right, whether or not you agree with them. Y'all only want liberty for what you agree with.
@infinitemonkey917
@infinitemonkey917 17 күн бұрын
If you were a true "libertarian" you would agree with their right, whether or not you agree with them. Y'all only want liberty for what you agree with.
@bekahgwen4984
@bekahgwen4984 16 күн бұрын
In my experience, students are very aware of what they are protesting, and most communicate it very clearly.
@BobDingus-bh3pd
@BobDingus-bh3pd 14 күн бұрын
Lol are you one of said students?
@bekahgwen4984
@bekahgwen4984 14 күн бұрын
@@BobDingus-bh3pd I am not.
@RyuBateson218
@RyuBateson218 16 күн бұрын
It's nice to see that coloring your hair purple without losing your brains is still possible.
@snoopyboobs
@snoopyboobs 15 күн бұрын
The exception that proves the rule?
@Ayo22210
@Ayo22210 15 күн бұрын
Their endowments shouldn’t be tax free, if they are tax exempt.
@DeathRayGraphics
@DeathRayGraphics 16 күн бұрын
What is “truly horrible” about pointing out Israel’s enormities, or that America should not have to pay for them?
@nilskp
@nilskp 15 күн бұрын
Nothing. It's made up lies.
@adtastic1533
@adtastic1533 16 күн бұрын
Protest is fine but you shouldn't be able to close down college campuses, bridges, highways or destroy priceless works if art. That constitutes harassment of others and should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.
@iampdv
@iampdv 16 күн бұрын
5:00 ish (points on Foucault). Partly the repeated references to Foucault and partly my interest in epistemology have caused me to read him a bit, and I did not see either how his writings lead to what is ascribed to him. But then I have found some interviews with him, and these are more calling for action.
@mestiza1988
@mestiza1988 7 күн бұрын
I agree. I think it is less about Foucault’s actual writings and more about the application of Foucault to everything under the sun. There is a lot of subpar scholarship in academic journals implicating Foucault in the absurdity of academia. I just narrowly escaped grad school with my brain intact because of all this stuff. By the end of my first year I was sick to death of hearing about Foucault. There is almost a religious obsession with him.
@charlesmichaelhunt9935
@charlesmichaelhunt9935 16 күн бұрын
From Brian Barry's excellent 1975 review of Anarchy, State and Utopia: "The book's conclusions are not in the least unusual. They articulate the prejudices of the average owner of a filling station in a small town in the Midwest who enjoys grousing about paying taxes and having to contribute to "welfare scroungers" and who regards as wicked any attempts to interfere with contracts, in the interests, for example, of equal opportunity or anti-discrimination. There will be nothing unfamiliar in the conclusions of the book to those who have read their William F. Buckley or their Senator Goldwater or have ever paid attention to the output of the more or less batty crusades and campaigns financed by wealthy Texans and Californians. The only thing that is new is that these views are being expressed by someone who is a Professor of Philosophy at Harvard." "the intellectual texture is of a sort of cuteness that would be wearing in a graduate student and seems to me quite indecent in someone who, from the lofty heights of a professorial chair, is proposing to starve or humiliate ten percent or so of his fellow citizens (if he recognizes the word) by eliminating all transfer payments through the state, leaving the sick, the old, the disabled, the mothers with young children and no breadwinner, and so on, to the tender mercies of private charity, given at the whim and pleasure of the donors and on any terms that they choose to impose." "Nozick's vision of "utopia" as a situation in which advantaged reinforce their advantages by moving into independent jurisdictions, leaving the poor and disadvantaged to fend for themselves, could be regarded as the work of a master satirist, since it is in fact merely the logical extension of pathologically divisive processes already well-established in the United States: the flight of the middle classes to the suburbs while the inner city decays from lack of resources, and the growth of "planned communities" for the wealthy aged and other specially selected groups who are able to shed much of the usual social overhead. Unfortunately, there is no sign that Nozick, jokiness personified in other respects, sees this particular joke, but, thanks to the direction given to public policy by Nixon and Ford and their Supreme Court, the American people have an increasing opportunity to enjoy the joke personally."
@skitzrv9773
@skitzrv9773 15 күн бұрын
Get a permit, protest all you want, be peaceful. Take over a public space or highway, harass or intimidate or threaten, go directly to jail, get expelled from school. There has to be serious consequences for really bad behavior, breaking the law.
@PossumKommander
@PossumKommander 16 күн бұрын
If they want to protest, let them protest somewhere else. Tuition there is absurd, and I know there are some people who will have to repeat courses because of the protests.
@Rickpa
@Rickpa 16 күн бұрын
Thanks
@plowe6751
@plowe6751 17 күн бұрын
Run for it, Marty! Who? Who? Who do you think? The Libertarians!
@JakeWitmer
@JakeWitmer 15 күн бұрын
Morty
@Reis____
@Reis____ 17 күн бұрын
The bandaid was annoying lol
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 16 күн бұрын
Somewhere in an alternate universe, he didn't wear the band-aid and you left a comment that the blood was annoying
@Reis____
@Reis____ 16 күн бұрын
Haha how dare he cut his chin
@patriciastauffer3278
@patriciastauffer3278 12 күн бұрын
Nick: Something I have not seen addressed but is really starting to burn my hide as a taxpayer and a long time Libertarian. First the politicians pass an unconstitutional law. Ok, Every dog is allowed one bite. Then they pass another law or an even more egregious violation of the Constitution out of political dogma or plain spite and it gets taken to the courts again. Now, here is my problem, I am not a rich man, I cannot contribute to every organization I agree with, but when I can I try to help those who work to keep us free of gov. intrusion. My tax dollars on the other hand are going toward not only making these noxious laws, but also defending them in court against my best interest and then recycling the mess at political whims and taxpayer expense. Shouldn't this expense come from the politicians themselves or the parties they serve rather than the taxpayers?
@mjpich
@mjpich 17 күн бұрын
five minutes in, born in the 60's my ass. the Greeks wailed on this. love you guys need update on kmw patella, please.
@ProgressiveLiberty
@ProgressiveLiberty 11 күн бұрын
I suppose the beautiful Passover Seder that the protesters put on campuses nationwide went unnoticed by reason staff. This coverage was very disappointing, the staff did not seem as prepared as they normally are and seemed to be working only off of right wing talking points. There is a wealth of eyewitness firsthand, reporting with video on the scene on KZfaq and elsewhere online that they didn’t seem to want to review prior to their remarks.
@jaewok5G
@jaewok5G 17 күн бұрын
i watch this just for nick's sublime snark …
@songster7
@songster7 16 күн бұрын
Nozick was a gem indeed. I had the pleasure of knowing him a bit and serving with him on the LPM(A) delegation to the 1975 natcon, where we actually considered dumping our POTUS candidate for refusing to accept the convention's initial VP choice ...
@spetty3736
@spetty3736 17 күн бұрын
It's so weird hearing Matt's voice out of the context of the 5th Column lol I keep waiting for Michael Moynihan to interrupt
@danielhopkins296
@danielhopkins296 11 күн бұрын
The one dud with the Peppermint Patty hairdo is completely ridiculous
@Giantcrabz
@Giantcrabz 15 күн бұрын
where do libertarians stand on theocratic ethnostates like Israel?
@joshuaberry1329
@joshuaberry1329 17 күн бұрын
It's simple. As long as the protesters are students at that university and aren't being violent, stopping other students from going to class, destroying property, harassing people by getting in other students faces, or otherwise they have freedom of speech. I personally feel like it is absolutely none of our business what is going on overseas and these people protesting are idiots. Personally as a Christian I feel Isreal should protect itself from hamas however it deems necessary but again none of my business.
@jonathanevenboer
@jonathanevenboer 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. Was hoping to see this type of response. I do agree with the point (made by Ms. Mangu-Ward iirc) that if the school has particular extant rules about encampments on campuses, protestors should expect those rules to be enforced. I think that's the only thing I'd add to your list of exceptions to turning a blind eye. As to whether or not Israel should "protect itself from Hamas how ever it deems necessary"... Keeping in mind I'm saying this as an atheist who was raised as a Christian, converted to Islam for a while, and has some Jewish heritage... I think Israel is going too far and is punishing all Palestinians because of Hamas. I'm against the humanitarian crisis going on over there. It's not the war of the citizens caught in the crossfire in Gaza, who are now being deprived of basics like food, water, and aid. I also disapprove of Israel's seeming expansion of the conflict/war to other countries, too. If this becomes a regional war, with the potential for larger global war, it will end up being our business whether we like it or not. That's the problem with "however it deems necessary"; if Israel decides the only way it can adequately protect itself is by setting off WWIII, it's everybody's problem. I definitely think it's America's responsibility to facilitate diplomacy (peace is probably to much to ask for) and slow this conflict tf down. We shouldn't be involved in any military capacity though.
@nilskp
@nilskp 15 күн бұрын
Do you have an opinion on what the Palestinians (including the Christians) should do to protect themselves from Israel?
@martinrheaume5393
@martinrheaume5393 16 күн бұрын
Pretty sure they know what "go back to Poland" means.
@arkansaslibertarian5051
@arkansaslibertarian5051 17 күн бұрын
Prayers for the innocent civilians on both sides, don't send a penny to either!
@RoyArrowood
@RoyArrowood 17 күн бұрын
Hell yeah
@iampdv
@iampdv 16 күн бұрын
Judging by the lack of recent complaints about "Tasty, full stop" in Russian media, they are neither worse bor more expensive than Macdonald's. Besides, Macdonald's in Russia was always quite a lot cheaper than in the West.
@josephmoore4764
@josephmoore4764 14 күн бұрын
They should be protesting something closer to home
@snorkus4790
@snorkus4790 17 күн бұрын
Up wind.
@HarveyDangerLurker
@HarveyDangerLurker 17 күн бұрын
This is why libertarians (Reason style) will never be taken seriously. It isn't the speech that is the problem, it is the encampments that is the problem. I've seen the videos of protestors impeding free movement of other students. You guys always miss the point.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 16 күн бұрын
Even worse. I’ve seen them physically move students out of areas. It’s not just a protest anymore.
@BrokenForge
@BrokenForge 16 күн бұрын
How would ReasonTV know anything about where libertarians stand on anything?
@Lopfff
@Lopfff 17 күн бұрын
Elliot Gould as Ironman 100%. I love EG, hate superhero movies, but 100% agree
@hpmoon
@hpmoon 16 күн бұрын
43:30 missed opportunity to say "Pulp Fiction"
@jacobstamm
@jacobstamm 14 күн бұрын
Every time the gentleman on the top left goes for levity, it just falls flat for me.
@gefiltefist2088
@gefiltefist2088 16 күн бұрын
“Wherever we want mom. Geez.”
@jameslane2326
@jameslane2326 17 күн бұрын
are you guys receiving funding from Aipac? wouldn't surprise me if you were based on this podcast.
@direwolf6234
@direwolf6234 4 күн бұрын
however the growth of the american economy disproves the point that spending reduces growth ...
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 16 күн бұрын
Trying to understand the algorithm removing my Tim Dillion joke.
@JonathanKajanga
@JonathanKajanga 16 күн бұрын
Thank God almighty 🙄 there are still some rational, logical, sane, sound minded and neutral people on the issue of the recent rise in pro-Palestine protests on college campuses. I mean it really just sucks😒to what the mainstream media slightly side with the protests, despite that some of them can be a bit cringe and extremist.
@PaulDodd
@PaulDodd 16 күн бұрын
Katherine, how do you feel about the “defund hell” movement though? 41:00
@mjpich
@mjpich 17 күн бұрын
well it's about time. brought to you by autosuggest
@scotsway1
@scotsway1 4 күн бұрын
I find Libertarians very disappointing on this. They should unequivocally support the protesters.
@tipperzack
@tipperzack 17 күн бұрын
Why call protest at colleges "Campus Wars"? Your tainting the discussion from the gate.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 14 күн бұрын
I have the answer: wherever they want!
@toddfulton2280
@toddfulton2280 17 күн бұрын
Your rights end where other people's rights begin. 1a isn't a shield to hide behind to allow you to block traffic, trespass, vandalize, proclaim membership of terrorist organizations, or assemble in public spaces without a permit. "Civil disobedience" just sounds like another way of saying "breaking the law."
@bilybak2
@bilybak2 16 күн бұрын
I love that libertarians are pro free speech only if it fits their opinions
@bellowingsilence
@bellowingsilence 16 күн бұрын
I mean, that isn’t necessarily true of *all* libertarians, and I tend to find there’s people like that across the political spectrum. But yeah, it is extra hypocritical coming from them. Overall, it just goes to highlight the importance of our bill of rights and having a spirit of free speech in this country.
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 16 күн бұрын
I don't know where you got that idea, especially in light of what Mangu said at 14:02 .
@norahjaneeast5450
@norahjaneeast5450 17 күн бұрын
what you were saying about the the actors being jacked now and they didn't get crazy fit I would have to say Robert De Niro which was easy for him because he is a smaller man but I would say Christopher Reeve see images of Kim just before Superman not a great physical I would say a good example of someone from the early 80s William Hurt when he did Altar'd States he was real thin they put prosthetic muscles on him so that he could like a caveman or something you could probably say that Charles Bronson was quite physically fit which apparently was natural but you are right they figured out the whole getting people to look really jacked without the juice
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 11 күн бұрын
They need to include some libertarians in this discussion. You know, people who are anti-war, anti-ethnic cleansing, who are suspect about funding other countries, who think that speech and protests are legitimate means of expressing anger at their country funding ethnic:cleaning and war and don’t fall for tropes and media framing.
@LabelsAreMeaningless
@LabelsAreMeaningless 17 күн бұрын
While I agree with there being a problem with Marxism and Identity politics in schools, I'm honestly amazed that you're pointing to this specific protest as tied to that. I am firmly opposed to Marxism, Identity politics (which actually creates racism and doesn't combat it), Post Modernism and all of those things, yet I also think it's very very beyond wrong to mass slaughter civilian elders, women and children. There is no anti-war movement ever who would not be standing right where these protestors are. If you want to point to the BLM riots or the culture war overall, then fine you have a point; but for cripes sake this is the first cause I've seen that is actually standing against something real and not a product of an Ideological lens. Name one thing worse than mass murder of innocents on the basis of their race and the land they live on, just one thing. People don't seem to comprehend that there is nothing possible to do which would be worse than that. They act like it's no big deal...why? how? Imagine if that was being done to people living within a US state. Would it be ok simply because you don't like those people? They're human beings and no, they are not terrorists, they are not military targets. If you want to talk about the issues of the schools and the toxic teachings going on, feel free..but do not list these particular protests as a symptom.
@LEGObiWanKenobi
@LEGObiWanKenobi 17 күн бұрын
Nailed it. Was generally shocked at their analysis of the protests
@matthewjohnston1400
@matthewjohnston1400 17 күн бұрын
It’s not an anti-war movement if you’re supporting the right on one side to commit acts of violence while condemning the other side for retaliating to this violence. You can decide for yourself which side is the aggressor. I think my point stands either way.
@LEGObiWanKenobi
@LEGObiWanKenobi 17 күн бұрын
@@matthewjohnston1400 so wanting a ceasefire and the end to the slaughtering of civilians isn’t anti war? Got it
@JackVz
@JackVz 17 күн бұрын
They aren't anti war. They''re picking sides.
@matthewjohnston1400
@matthewjohnston1400 17 күн бұрын
@@LEGObiWanKenobi hundreds of thousands of people across the globe took to the streets after the attack of Oct 7th, prior to Israel’s retaliation. They were essentially celebrating the success of the attack. They are not now calling for a ceasefire in the interests of peace. Peace with Israel is not what “from the river to the sea” implies. They are calling for a ceasefire so that Hamas can regroup and attack again as it has done for almost 80 years. They don’t believe Israel has a right to exist, perhaps it doesn’t, but peace, we know for certain, is not what they want.
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg 14 күн бұрын
Nick is now 60 years old. Can that still be his actual natural hair?
@RoyArrowood
@RoyArrowood 17 күн бұрын
Who I wonder will be the libertarian candidate for president? 🤔
@barfo281
@barfo281 17 күн бұрын
Some fake libertarian, like they put up every election.
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 16 күн бұрын
Who cares.
@RoyArrowood
@RoyArrowood 16 күн бұрын
@@CountArtha Libertarians I would think
@Phier554
@Phier554 16 күн бұрын
Against communism and Islam for the same reasons imo.
@bryson8918
@bryson8918 16 күн бұрын
ZionistTV
@dariusThurman
@dariusThurman 10 күн бұрын
Math is gonna kick everyones ass
@glennmitchell9107
@glennmitchell9107 17 күн бұрын
Does no one distinguish between anti-semitism and anti-zionism?
@danporath536
@danporath536 17 күн бұрын
Mainstream media and Congress cannot do that because AIPAC has influence.
@toxictroll7843
@toxictroll7843 16 күн бұрын
don't ask the "reason" boomers, they are clueless
@anonymousbosch4512
@anonymousbosch4512 16 күн бұрын
Not really, when anti zionism is frequently used as a cover for anti semitism. When people make anti zionist protests outside synagogues. When anti zionist rhetoric skirts thr line of inciting violence against Israel and/or Jews. You have to expect that protests do not have a strict rhetorical style guide, so that line will be crossed every time this stuff happens
@danporath536
@danporath536 16 күн бұрын
@@anonymousbosch4512 Speech is NOT violence, violence is violence. Violence and true threats are not constitutionally protected…speech is.
@glennmitchell9107
@glennmitchell9107 16 күн бұрын
@@anonymousbosch4512 My question wasn't for the protesters. I assume they are a mixed bag of half-educated college sophomores, radical professors, paid instigators, and federal agents. I am more concerned with the political analysts and commenters, both in the establishment media and in the blogosphere. Nuance and precision are missing. It's propaganda all the way down and sideways.
@anthonyhunter6882
@anthonyhunter6882 16 күн бұрын
Meanwhile students are going to more bare bones academic programs to get their money’s worth
@Nemerson74
@Nemerson74 16 күн бұрын
11:15 unprecedented round table advance in technology.
@danielmoody3640
@danielmoody3640 13 күн бұрын
Since when are we supposed to take Libertarians seriously? LMAO!! What a joke of an ideology.
@dravenlee4473
@dravenlee4473 17 күн бұрын
I draw the line at preventing others from doing something. Literally blocking students from entering the school because they are Jewish or calling for the death of them is obviously a step too far. If you are going to protest, do it peacefully. Don't infringe upon others. As we've seen though, these kids don't even know what they are protesting. They just want to be apart of something and feel good about themselves.
@zackerycooper1206
@zackerycooper1206 17 күн бұрын
The Tweet that says they were preventing Jewish students from entering shows students on the steps of a separate building, not the entrance to campus. It was a false narrative that anyone was being stopped from entering campus for ideology. Those who are being kept off campus are being kept off by the campus security because they don’t have university IDs.
@UserUser45654
@UserUser45654 17 күн бұрын
16:58 the exact opposite of the truth coming out of his mouth. It’s clear that the other three on the show don’t believe him. 😂
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 16 күн бұрын
Tim Dillion test
@meandwhosearmy5680
@meandwhosearmy5680 16 күн бұрын
A libertarian standing with Israel would go against everything Libertarian but of course when Jews are the main topic everyone has to do mental gymnastics to make sure we keep our jobs.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 16 күн бұрын
What does not being for illegal “protests” have to do with standing with Israel? These kids are taking over universities. Not ok.
@Panax07
@Panax07 16 күн бұрын
Dont want the zionists to get us uninvited from 100$/plate dinners.
@susanjones7734
@susanjones7734 15 күн бұрын
I am not influenced by anything to do with jobs, but these universities have long forced out any professors that don’t agree with their stated narratives. They have indoctrinated these students so much that the students can’t even answer questions about why they’re protesting.
@Panax07
@Panax07 16 күн бұрын
Anyone tell me if they mention: 1) Israeli atrocities 2) Palestinians 3) Israel lobby 4) US support for Israel
@nilskp
@nilskp 15 күн бұрын
Shhh, don't let anyone know what the protests are actually about. But no, of course not
@UserUser45654
@UserUser45654 17 күн бұрын
Bizarre Neo-“Con” talking points. I guess when you fork over cash to Middle Aged journalists in a collapsing industry, they start sounding like The Bulwark.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, these guys don’t really seem like libertarians.
@avmail7097
@avmail7097 16 күн бұрын
its kind of alarming how sexy this group is
@josephdunsay4360
@josephdunsay4360 17 күн бұрын
Protesters do not have the right to create a hostile environment for Jewish students.
@Panax07
@Panax07 16 күн бұрын
A good chunk of the protestors are jewish invluding jewish voice for peace.
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 16 күн бұрын
Tim test
@Hurgardet
@Hurgardet 17 күн бұрын
Non libertarians have taken over Reason.
@andrewdimartino2663
@andrewdimartino2663 17 күн бұрын
says margaret thatcher who was not a libertarian
@Hurgardet
@Hurgardet 16 күн бұрын
@@andrewdimartino2663 However she was a capitalist and a scientist. She deregulated British society.
@barfo281
@barfo281 17 күн бұрын
There were no libertarians in this video, though.
@coleworld3061
@coleworld3061 15 күн бұрын
Respectfully, I find it difficult to stomach the use of black american identity and this countries terrible history as it relates to this community being used in comparison with peoples right to criticize and object to government and state policies as it relates to war peace and mass slaughter. This is not that issue. The cases of individuals being harmed or harassed because of their Jewish identity has been minimal. If you want to make a case that peoples political identity (Zionist) shouldn’t be attacked, villainized, or stereotyped then there’s a conversation o have. But stop making this about “the blacks” and “if this was the blacks”…… trust and believe when “the blacks” mobilize against state and government actions (uhhhh policing), all kinda of racist stereotypes are used against us
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 16 күн бұрын
Dillion test
@Ayo22210
@Ayo22210 15 күн бұрын
Only libertarians are funny these days
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 16 күн бұрын
baby test
@JaeWhite140
@JaeWhite140 17 күн бұрын
Paid protesters by both political parties. 👍
@aaronday7537
@aaronday7537 16 күн бұрын
baby shot face test
@brianburgess3231
@brianburgess3231 17 күн бұрын
like Trump?
@barfo281
@barfo281 17 күн бұрын
You mean Leftist Donnie?
@katrinaisalwayscorrect
@katrinaisalwayscorrect 17 күн бұрын
Huh? Like Trump what?
@barfo281
@barfo281 17 күн бұрын
@@katrinaisalwayscorrect Like Donald Chump is a leftist clown.
@LFOD1776
@LFOD1776 13 күн бұрын
Where did reason stand on COVID. tells you everything you need to know.
@roaringlaughter3812
@roaringlaughter3812 16 күн бұрын
Politics in all its forms must be deleted from college. All colleges should ONLY be about Learning practical sciences or vocational stuff. If you want people to learn about politics you can reintroduce the whole “you can only vote if you have served” either through military or working in a government office where you are exposed to legislation in a practical manner. Most people dont know shit and only realize this around the age of 30. I see myself as a libertarian the smaller the government and the more de centralized government is the better
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 16 күн бұрын
The most blue-pilled word in the English language is _"should."_ Objectivity is impossible. Viewpoint neutrality is impossible. If you hold back from imposing your values on an institution, you will quickly lose that institution to the people who didn't hold back.
@Ayo22210
@Ayo22210 15 күн бұрын
Tech Ed at 2 year colleges should be the way forward, that encumbrances the trades. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_education#List_of_tech_ed_skills
@Ayo22210
@Ayo22210 15 күн бұрын
Libertarian modern monetary theory en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikideas1/sandbox#How_libertarian_MMT_would_be_applied
@Ayo22210
@Ayo22210 15 күн бұрын
‘New-state solution’ is the answer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution#New-state_solution
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