it's somatic narcissism the hurt people hurt people thing is BS scientifically

You got this wrong, so wrong. The true player is the natural one. That x factor is manifested from teenage years, it is the capacity to create a strong desire involuntarily everywhere you go, in either old or young women. It is a mixture of charisma and physical/behavioral traits. It is preserved even in OLD AGE, and I mean really old (he can easily get young women in his 60s). I have never met a "self-made player" who was actually not wrecked in the end by women. They can't neither produce desire naturally, nor they can maintain it through time and certainly not preserve it in old age. The vast majority of self-made players manufacture a façade that is never going to last, it lacks the artistic ,effortless touch of a natural (with hundreds of thousands of seductive moments through his life). Picasso was a good example of that. Old, bald and short and he could do as he wanted, his aura was that strong. We all know when we see it. Perhaps because I'm Mediterranean and here it is like that. That x factor is independent from money and age (and directly proportional to the subject's intellect). There is a universal lust for a certain type of genes that knows no age

@@cristianproust yeah...this guy tends to state a lot of stuff as "fact" without producing any evidence....

"The myth of the natural is just that: a myth" Excuse me, I had a friend like this. He was very good with girls. A few times he just started a conversation with one and sometimes a pair of girls on a bus without even telling me he was gonna do it(we were teenagers below 18). In a few minutes I had a feeling that they were ready to go on a date with him or even jump into the bed. These cases did end up with exchanging numbers. He wasn't tall, wasn't muscular, wasn't a pretty face. He had multiple girlfriends at a time, and even when he had a main girlfriend, he'd still have multiple girls in rotation just to fuск. There's 0% chance that he was a part of the pickup community: it was year 2004-2006 and we're in Ukraine, barely anyone had Internet access back then here, and he never spoke English, anyway. And he was ~16 back then, too. When he'd come from a summer camp, he'd tell us stories how he fuскеd the administrator girls, often a few per summer in the summer camp. And yeah he was telling the truth: like I said, I've seen him pick up girls in minutes with my own eyes multiple times. What he was is very cunning, confident and have had a very well-hung tongue. No, he didn't invest time, energy and money to develop "the skillset". It was a street kid that was just good at it: someone might have taught him some stuff to be better with people in general, but that's about it. And yeah, I guess, he did get good at it as years went by, but it wasn't intentional: it wasn't like people that go to colleges or gyms, or the pickup artists that go the gatherings to practice to be better at the pickup art.

You're wrong on the first part. Yes, players are often made from guys who got hurt, but, also yes, there are "naturals." The natural is the guy who was probably very handsome at an early age and popular who had a dad that was cool, sociable and not a cvck that he could imitate.

Once women understand male nature we also lose the Disney ideology. Understanding human nature strips most from their utopian thoughts.

I’m starting to see that in us men everyday. I’ve known about female nature for quite some time. All you have to do is look at Eve in the garden of Eden and that will show you the nature of a woman and what she will go after.

@@LM-nn7sgyeah but most men will understand women only a few women will understand men, most don’t understand men because they could care less

@Goku_Kiyosaki right which is why women will constantly get played by the same guy for years more often than not

It’s neither male or female nature, it’s human nature, we are all opportunistic, either initially or eventually. You can play or get played

Yep. Most would.

MOST.

ALL.

@@AviatorsVEVO yes all

​@@cedricthetech4178You are truly narrow minded if you dare to say all, when we are talking about humans

That's what women are doing also. Somebody should take the lead and stop being bitter.

@@reenaree1953 it takes a lot of value to be a player, it requires no effort to be a whore. There’s a difference.

Why do you see sex as degrading to women? You men chase after it but then call women bad names if you get it. That's like child behaviour.

@@reenaree1953 there is another video on this channel, where he explains what you are confused about. In short, it is hard for a man to get many sexual partners, and it is very easy for a woman to get many sexual partners. This may answer your question on why it is inherently degrading for a woman to be promiscuous, and vice versa.

So if it is easy to breathe then air must be degraded and air must be worthless then. Too easy. Cheap. But i agree, women should choose very carefully. If women choose very carefully then 99% of men wouldn't have a chance. But then again, is it something you want? You want love and someone to see you for who you are. Men, you are precious, you are same as women. God loves you. We are here for a reason and we are all together. Friends.

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Where are the Research Papers Professor?

Only a weak man would do that.

​@@oemj7147 one can only be so strong doe

Not....men remarry get worked again. Some guys never wake up.

@@johngalt6838 that would be a sadomasochistic, they love the punishment, but more power to them.

@@oemj7147 it's not a bad thng to recognize a weakness and turn it into a positive, that is to never let your guards down, becoming stoic.

its disgusting.

Men become players just to get sex. These women are also into just for sex and they have an absent father, aka many issues.

Yeah, treat women like shit and you'll have plenty of dating options. Engage in self-destructive behavior and women will feel drawn to you. Try to support your partner and do nice things for her and try to help improve her life and you have no shot. I was the kind of guy who women claim to like: kind, thoughtful, intelligent, highly educated, emotionally open, loyal, stable. Well, one woman I loved left me for a drug user. Another woman I loved left me for a drug dealer, which predictably didn't go well. Then she started a relationship with a man who pressured her into sex without a condom and who broke off contact with her once she became pregnant. Yeah, great choice in men, ladies.

Same way you men choose women who cheat, abuse, say bad things, nag etc. You men also love these kinds of women.

​@@reenaree1953 Lol, trust me, no men is attracted to high bodycount women. Tell him you have double digit and watch his face twist in disgust. He may still hold his nose and pump and dump you, but he can't be seen wifing up the town bicycle. The same high bodycount in men would make most western women think of it as validation that he's desirable. Asian women would pull away at the red flag, but that's a learned cultural value. What happenes far more often is women lie about their past, and men believe them when they shouldn't. Difference - women lie downward regarding their bodycount, men lie upward. Guess why.

Your friend makes a good point😂

@@djjukeboxhero6491 I guess. He really demystified what it means to have a high body count. Alot of drama and time wasted.

@@Provocateur991 yeah the juice ain't worth the squeeze most the time but sometimes nature calls.

I may be going thru this transformation right now. I've been so lonely being the nice guy it gas made me bitter not having ANY luck with them and when l felt l had a connection with some l was overlooked as not being seductive or activating their emotions with game.

⁠@@juankeyblademaster don’t ignore what you’re beginning understand right now. You’re getting there. “Nobody loves anyone, we only just pretend” Those are David Bowie lyrics. Bowie didn’t write down lyrics, he stream of conscious sung them in the studio. Always. No words poured over and calculated, just direct from the cerebellum. My point: that one line is pure truth. As @PsyHacks said in this video we just barrow one another. I think, and I am not certain, women get a chemical reward from rejecting a man. If not chemical then certainly emotionally in terms of self esteem. Have you ever seen a rejected woman? She just disintegrates. A man is rejected 10 times before breakfast and we walk to the next one positively expecting different results. I believe we are on this journey together

Same here. I got girls from 22-27 yrs old im hanging out with, im 34 with 3 kids. I do take care of myself, its a must

Same here. I was too innocent and trusted all bs fantasy. Right after first day of the marriage my wife became toxic and now probably is cheating, I am starting to see the signs. I am kind of in process of divorce. I had no women marriage too. Tell me what sort of mindset do you have towards woman now that is lending you the abundance. Mine currently is: No woman is loyal and supportive and never will be so never expect it and neither give that to her, If no woman wants to marry then so be it.

The divorced guys complaining...they got comfortable and let themselves go. They could also be undesirable from debt and kids

And some women have exactly the same mentality: no man is loyal and caring. You see, we mirror each other. You blame women, women blame you. Endless cycle.

@@reenaree1953 not true. Women are dating playboys who aren't loyal in first place. Good men are being ignored by them. Hence for women 80% of their will cheat them and these women will cheat on good men. So no, we are not mirroring anything here. Women simply have bad taste.

And sleeps with the Green Goblin.

I'd rather say passes on Clark for Lex

Bro this was lowkey kinda lame but in a funny way 💀

Men reward onlyfans by giving money.

Not neccesarily. If you have whit, confidence, and game, she will love to flirt like a game and sleep with you. It is that subset of behaviors she loves in the bad boy. Many women after 27 no longer are interested in bad boys and look for that subset for providers by 30+

​@@reenaree1953 These are not men but simps. The mirror reflection of sluts in women. Both give away their relational currency for nothing devaluing themselves.

@@timgibney5590 that isn’t a good thing for the guys who’re now “good enough” after women have had their “fun”

@@timgibney5590 Way too many women love dangerous and violent men. After losing their valuable years to "bad boys", they may settle for the nice guy. Those poor losers have to pay full price for a washed up elder.

Our mothers and grandmothers generation of women really cared about family, men and children. But men at that time only cared about sex. So thanks to those men, women went resentful towards men because "men only want one thing". Thank men.

And how/where do you meet women, and how do you get to get laid with them? This is want we guys really want to know. We can figure out ourselves how to deal with them afterwards.

(I can see only one reply out of three.) It's easy to understand, women need protection, and an emotionally available man is not strong enough to protect them. They don't feel safe with him.

@@doru4248 Tell me then how not giving a shit for her is a sign of protecting her...

@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Not giving a shit and not being emotionally available are two different things.

I respect this. Thank you for sharing your experience

Bro I can't thank you enough for sharing this. This is exactly the path I recently embarked and I think I need to see things differently. Always being a "nice" guy and always sucked with women. I decided to try and become a jerk with PUA and tricks like that. Not anymore. Thanks for opening my eyes

Your story reminds me of Norah Vincent

The thing is...Be a kind man (note i didn't say nice), but one who respects himself.

@@yukisnoww That's a great distinction. My mentor told me to be a good guy instead of nice guy 👌

Stay strong ,God bless you

10 yrs and no ring?....maybe. just maybe....nah that couldn't be it

@@susanhaines7358 No kids no ring. She knew the score. If she wanted a ring, she had to be willing to have kids. Otherwise why get married?

@@KotCR very good point. Did all you could

Ten year relationship that’s probably why she left.

hi, i know a guy exactly like this, from your point of view, is there any way to help or explain to him what is happening and why it is bad? he said he felt lonely and stuff, but he just sees it as “thats life” and proceeds. i have the purest intention for him, and i understand where it came from.

@@ela1058 well Ela, a man becomes a player basically for two reasons…1. Loved someone and got dumped, so he fills the void with more feminine energy. 2. Got dumped many times and basically gives up and true love. I belong to 1…. In either cases, he realises one major thing, that is he really don’t have to put that much efforts as he thought to pull a girl, it doesn’t matter what kind of girl she is tho cause we don’t really care tbh. But that realisation is lowkey dangerous cause now we’re pulling the number of girls we never expected in our life before. My dms are bursting literally hundreds. So in those numbers you’re just one woman, the answer is basically you have to be better than everyone. You have you bring hope to his love life, always be there for him and make him see you (CAREFULLY), of course 90% of time it’ll keep on failing but don’t ever give up. You can’t fix him, you have to give him enough hope so he can fix himself while you’re there for him… does this works? It might not, it’s a tough long battle with risk of ROI. It also depends on the gravity of his player life. If he’s a new player like me, then he can change in short time. But if he’s experienced, then unfortunately the chances are much lower. If you ask, i would suggest not to take that way and waste your time, but if that’s what you truly want, then go for it!. Nothing is beautiful than love after all…

"Even we don't like what were doing deep down." Nothing but facts. I would never consider myself a player because I never purposely played with women's emotions to get sex or anything else. (This isn't because I'm a good person or something but because it's way too easy to manipulate women, and easy on _that_ level doesn't really interest me.) Women I've been around consider(ed) me a player _because I treat no less than 90% of women as friends rather than as possible romantic interests._ They've asked if I'm married or have a girlfriend as they don't know what to make of not being viewed by a man in some type of sexual or romantic way. But I didn't become this way because my heart was broken by a woman (on the converse, at fifteen I was stupid and cheated on the only girl I ever loved).... My heart was kind of broken but not in the normal sense. I became this way after I went from pretty boy in high school and college to [totally different] a year into college when I had a Redpill moment and suddenly developed a real sense of purpose... _and the women suddenly came out the woodwork._ Very suddenly. Even the way I walked had totally changed. Before this, most women liked at me like meh, especially in Baltimore where they love thugs. After I guess you can call it the Redpill moment, I mean, I had to run from women now because they wouldn't leave me tf alone. But the 'heartbreak' really came at the job I got after that Redpill moment and I dropped out of college. 90% of the employees were women and 90% of those women were married. And still they would flirt and try to work-husband and bag me and then call me "conceited" for not wanting to sleep with married women. _That_ was the moment for me, a type of heartbreak, sure. I thought about those married women's poor unexpecting husbands and still somehow managed to be civil with them. But from them on, I repented for wanting to think the best of women. If I'd been naturally inclined to negativity or pessimism, I would've thrown in the towel on women long who (the Redpill moment happened 20 years ago). Still, the best way forward for men is to *learn, acknowledge, and accept female nature* (always remembering that men have our issues too) so you aren't hostile towards women and can still have good, civil, and fun relationships with women, only now *without 'the element of surprise'* that too many men in marriages and longterm relationships eventually have to suffer through. Hell, I didn't know this would be this long or good. I'm going to make it my main comment now. 😂

That hits home

​@@ela1058that guy sounds like me. Let me explain. We also need physical intimacy. We also need physical touch. We as men are also human. He realised he cant fullfill his emotional needs along his physical needs so hes relying on friendship for emotional needs ( doesnt really do the job) and sex for his physical needs. Im excacly the same place. If someone asked me why i changed im gonna be honest about my intentions wich i also am to the women i sleep with. Im just trying to feel alive honestly. Cant get it through monogamy and deep connection? Atleast i can fix part of the problem while i look for another solution or untill im resdy to try dating again. Its really that simple. We know nobody cares and those who care well its not like they can do anything about it and we also loose patience sometimes because countless rejections sometimes from women who take months to assess you as a potential partner leaves toj frustrated and you cant really blame anyone so you just stop caring about making women happy and instead focus on your own needs for once without relying on your assessed value as a partner to get it. We are humans. We need to be touched. Literally. Its a basic human need. You wont make him realise anything because hes essentially correct. He can do all that and still be of value to women much later in life when he is able to be seen as a potential partner by women even younger than himself because he knows hes judged differently as a man and can participate without consequence. Thats what i mean with stop caring. We dont wanna deprave ourselves just to fix an issue that women chase so we instead become the issue that women chase. And no. Its not that we arent able to deter some whore ass woman who's toxic in many ways from a good woman. Its that "good women" can be very great people. Like super great kind and compassionate people but still cant escape their nature. Trust me. Before i changed the way i thought about things i almost purely judged women based on their ability to be future mothers of my children. Looking for good characteristics for such a role with an intent to be 100% dedicated to my part as well just to know these absolutely wonderfull women will still want jerks and assholes who will never commit to them because they have the option not to and still get what they want. We get tired of it. Continuing like that eventually emasculated us and make us feel truly worthless as lack of touch and female attention and intimacy catch up to us and our neurochemistry punishes us

@@usernameasdfghjkl it means when you're nice and show interest to most women they will not be interested in you. They either walk all over you or friend zone you. So have a purpose beyond them. Treat and talk to women like they don't mean as much to you as the things you pay attention to in life and watch the magic happen. Unfortunately most women want men who pursue things like jobs etc, not them. Or just find a good woman who understands people are more important than things. They are extremely rare but they do exist.

Accountability. Men want sex and then become players to easily sleep with women. Take accountability.

This is so true. I've had a female friend bring that up in a recent discussion.

They'll "have their fun", and watch the society turn to sh%t with no remorse.

@@edheldude women don't build societies or civilization, men do.

Let women reap what they sow and there will be NO "Knight in Shining Armour (Sir SaveAHoe)" that comes along and saves her from her solipsistic, entitled, poor choices. This is what equality looks like.

😂😂

For once take accountability and stop blaming women. If she doesn't like you, take it as a man. Women are not obligated to like you.

@@reenaree1953 what’s the correlation?

@@reenaree1953 How is describing female behaviour patterns equal to blame? Projecting much?

Same way describing male behavior patterns are seen as blame.

@@reenaree1953 ​ For example?

"They showed interest, I pursued, than the games started." This is the story of her....until..............she is no longer getting pursued. Then she "just want a nice guy" as a retirement plan.

the thing is that to be a "player" you just have to stop caring.. the "who cares who gets hurt as long as is not me" attitude that reflects some underlying problem not resolved

​@@gilbertozambrano6182you write that and seem to think it's a problem. It's not. You have to look out for yourself first. Put on your own oxygen mask in the jet liner before you try to assist anyone else.

Women STILL will not accept responsibility and there is NO ONE, especially not government to hold them accountable! So not sure why its so meaningful to you that they know the truth! Just lie to them! its what they want, its speaking their own language to them, it makes them happy! I will be honest with men, because i respect men. i feel NO onus to be honest with women, because they are rarely honest with me, and when they are in comes with a catch/caveat.

If you were not a decent looking man, they would not be interested

@@maurotolari9215 maybe not, but would any man be interested in a woman that’s not decent looking either? Unfortunately, the problem is the answer is yes. And it’s why I believe men’s lack of standards in a woman is the real problem When a homeless woman can be accepted by men if she just “looks decent”, you know there’s a fundamental problem. That said, attractive privilege exists far more in females, because once again, males allow them to get away with it in hopes of getting into their pants

Good point...they want it to be your fault that they are a 304....you listen to the black Phillip show?

@@djjukeboxhero6491 Never heard of it

I may be going thru this transformation right now. I've been so lonely being the nice guy it has made me bitter not having ANY luck with them and when l felt l had a connection with some l was overlooked as not being seductive or activating their emotions with game.

​@@juankeyblademastersame here bro

I became one in my 40’s…. In my 50’s now. The combination of the nice guy-player ‘revelation’ and maturity is potent …. My age was no barrier to accessing women of any age… so you have that to look forward to .

Its the same with even your parents

They want to be treated that way.

@@FilipMacioszekthe high status guys treated them this way, so if you do too, then you feel like high status to them, making them chase

@GamingDemiurge Dam, that bubble gum theory is hard core.

Well said. My take on this topic: My theory on why they think that's the case is because they, women, are passive by nature and they project that passivity onto others. Let me explain: First most if not all of them are the type that "goes with the flow", follow trends and the collective or the "will of the group". In other word they're sort of deterministic, they "think"/feel/believe that there's a set "way of things" that can't and shouldn't be change or it is for someone else (the men, father, husband) to do the determination, the changing. This is because their bodies are naturally more weaker/softer in order to carry a child while pregnant and when they externally carry the child while it's growing. By extension this leads them to be more naturally adverse to danger both physically and emotionally. I think that aversion is translated to their mind/ego (since both originate in the brains r-complex) leading them to have an aversion to potentially being wrong or unsuccessful. That leads them to have an aversion of being active and taking risky initiatives, an active set of actions that may or may not lead to failure even if it may lead to success and the betterment of one's self and lifestyle. Second there's the fact that their own self value and the source of the value they believe others put on them, is based in their youth and naturally developed beauty. That it was something that they got not throug determination or action, they got it by simply "being" which leads them to project said idea onto other, that others personality, value and physical attractiveness is set by nature. That's why they don't like and even refuse the idea that a person can change and/or improve for the better because it would prove to them that a person can change through choice and determination and that anyone can either improve or degrade depending on the choices they make and that those who thought the opposite, like them, were just being lazy and passive. The ironic thing is that most men achive the best version of themselves, the ones which most women are attracted to, through decision making, action and learning through trial and error; it is very rare for a men to be natural born with confidence, steadfastness, "high level looks" and charisma, let alone determination, those are things that most men develop through the years. Meanwhile the things that most women are initially valued by, the things that attract the attention of men, their youthful beauty and personality, is temporary, it will not last long if left by itself. They have to actively work in not only maintaining their looks as long as possible but also in developing and maintaining personality traits and actions that are desired by men in a women. Their looks only get the sxl attention from men but is their likeability and pleasant and supportive feminine personality and actions that men look in a potential long term life partner.

The natural is not a myth.

@@agm5424very well put

Never give up. Filter out and look at yourself spiritually on what happened? Did you lose your job? Did you complain all the time you were not as together as your boss etc? These things turn a girl off. Did you listen to her? Or did she sleep with +10 men before you? Has she cheated on any ex? For the last 2 if a woman ever admits she did this or sleep with her friends husband/boyfriend she is OUT. I end it immediately as you will be next. Women want to feel safe and secure and loved. She only cares what she feels about you. If your project or mention an exgf she will feel that emotion about you too and since she is emotional will not want to date you again etc. Learn this and up your game with confidence and fun and she will run to you. If you still live at home it is not her fault but yours. You need to address this and make yourself a high value man first.

@@timgibney5590 more manosphere nonsense! The juice aint worth the squeeze! Why bother improving oneself, when every woman is a slut . . . for the right price! Women do NOT want to feel loved! Thats utter BS! They dont even know what love is! They want the tingles, but call it love! I love my parents, my kids and my pets, but NONE of them give me the tingles, ever! 14 yrs of marriage taught me this about a woman's LOVE, but she had all her simps try to reinforce the blue pill conditioning!

@@timgibney5590 Dude, no one understands red pill like I do. I hear ya. It's just not worth it for me. I'm perfectly happy being alone. I'm 54 years old and a multi millionaire. I retired when I turned 40. I can do what I want, when I want, and how I want. There's no way I would ever trust a woman to not betray me again. I have WAY too much to lose. And I'm too old to recover from someone taking half of everything. I screwed up before by not seeing the red flags. I met my ex wife in 1998 and we were together for 25 years. There was no one back then to teach guys how the world actually works. I don't think it's possible to love women once you understand how they are. I don't blame them or hate them at all. It's just how things are. I don't hate a scorpion who stings or a snake who strikes. It's just their nature. But I don't want one in my bed either. :)

well, cynicism comes naturally. and virtually inevitably, as for the issue of actual xx.s | xx.ity. and knowing xx.s (evo.psych) nature, garnished maybe with anecdotal evidence having been experienced 1st hand, won't go unseen again. whether this now attracts whomever is irrelevant.

It makes me sad that women have done that too you. As a woman, widow, and mother of a son(although I know it doesn’t mean much) I apologize for women.

Her priority is her son, not you, and that's how it should be. Your attachment to unavailability is not healthy, especially to a woman who bore another man's child and is dedicated to that child, and by extension, that man. Marriage is about value exchange, not emotions or feelings. Divorce rate is 90% for women with bodycount of 6+, 6% for virgins at time of marriage. You also have to make sure you're not so broken that you carry your own 90% with you. Everyone on their deathbed wants to be surrounded by their children and loved one, nobody wants to be alone. It just haven't hit you yet. Me and my wife were both virgins when we married. We're atheists. I'm 6', fit, made low 6 figures straight out of college, and had IQ of 145. She's pretty, didn't wear makeup but looked better without it than most women do with it. We chose to not ruin our own lives. Why the statistics are what they are matters less than the fact that they are what they are. For many people, it's already too late, whatever damage to their psyche was already done.

​@@georgedang449 What would you say to single mothers with body counts of 6+ who are out there dating and trying to convince men to give them a committed relationship?

@@lifeskillsongs2510 What can you say? From her perspective, 10% is higher than 0%. She'll run through an average of 9 nice guys, turn them into players, and get the final simp to provide for her and her other man (men?)'s children. The cycle of life continues, spiraling down the toilet. I'm just audience.

@@georgedang449 why should her son be her priority?

@@rougebaba3887 "Should" is a value judgement. It simply is. I misspoke. Motherly love is unconditional, as is love from a dog to his man. Love between man and woman is a fleeting hormonal reaction designed to facilitate procreation. Marriage is a contract of value exchange that has nothing to do with love.

Nope

Underrated comment and an idea that should be expanded upon!

This is absolutely key! The deck is stacked against men in this regard!

Why is the act of sex so sinnful and degrades a woman? Women used to honor sex, men and children. But you, men, showed us that sex means absolutely nothing. It's just like eating and you can do it with whomever. Nowdays women mirror men. You see yourselves in women.

@@reenaree1953 that’s womens loss then why mirror being men ? We aren’t attracted to other men. Also did you watch the video ? These guys are like this because women make them like that so they avoid LTRs because women always are tempted it’s biblical. I think you’re not understanding the biological differences between men and women and would help a lot if you looked into it further and try to remove personal emotions it will explain a majority of misunderstanding.

So women are like that because men make us like that. The same words.

@@reenaree1953 NO , because women are gatekeepers and have selection most men go for what they can get unless your doing wjjat all women do and look at top teir men and say thats all men.

Great outlook you have.

I have had the reality check way too late ..I am 39 and never had gf.. I am not gonna be a player but i can atleast try to be as authentic as i can be

Trying to look for a songle comment saying every single woman isnt going to cheat, especially if you fear it you would probably make it happen

Well said.

💥

You aint the only one!

Yeah. I don’t really care what they want anymore either tbh. I used to be the biggest romantic and that was probably my problem. Now I don’t care what they are looking for. They get what I give them when I care to offer it. If they want more they get blocked. There are way too many options out there to worry about what they want.

total indifference, as most benevolent take on it (which isn't available at all times). no f.o.m.o. ever, no m.e.a.t. being wasted. I always know: briffault's law, hypergamy, monkeybranching, pervasive malign gyn.fasc metastases in 'mind' - in 98.5% likelyhood. just noisy voids.

That’s weak😅

You can only treat women as people when they behave like people. LOL

I think I had a small epiphany while going to reply to your comment so bare with me as this is just coming into my mind, from someone in the same boat as you. Here's something to ponder. We know women do shit tests, and that by being "better than them" (acting like we are a superior by just being disrespectful) is kinda the reason they do it, so that they can give you themselves. This is biologically ingrained behaviour it seems. Would you not also say, that, as a man, being the Jerk and seeing which women just roll over and take it is not, in itself a similar shit test? The ones that just salivate ate the idea of being degraded do not pass the male shit test. The ones that do a few things, namely: 1) stand up for themselves 2) take accountability for themselves and their actions 3) show they are capable of putting the foot down and SELF-RESPECTING themselves (not so much as emotionally lashing out, but almost being stoic like a man) in the face of blatant disrespect from a guy obviously "Playing" them, that Actually pass the male shit test, and become a Woman We as Men can respect? And in doing so, we can trust them to take care of themselves and our children? In this regard, should men also play the Player Game as a form of Shit test to ensure we find Women that are of respectable quality? Women play theirs, and play men, and men play theirs, and play women, but in the end, when two players realise they can't play the other, or that the other can't be played, then we know we find a compatible mate. Am I making sense?

@@codeisme you're making sense, and it does resonate. I went on a first date with a chick not long ago that I thought would have sex with me that night. When she turned me down, she got more attractive. I don't like playing games though.

Respecting women is feminist brain washing, you should never respect people who don't respect you, and women hate men

Get some bros. Get a dog.

Exactly. Nuances. Theres also the small minority that were born with freakishly good looks and work on their body to end up looking divinely sculpted. Also a small minority that are naturally chads that most women fawn over but they simultaenously dont mess around smashing any and every hole and they are genuinely looking for a family.

somatic narcissism see dr vaknin's work

@@seabreeze4559 Can you provide more context?

I think a good analogy would be people who come onto wealth, whether from poverty or from wealth. A formerly impoverished person MAY be generous OR stingy. "It took me this long to crawl out and up. You think I'm going to just give you money ( love )?" Also, a person who used to be generous, but was stolen from can now justify being a pennypincher. ( ass pincher ) And of course, there are spoiled richkids who never knew struggle

But your brain is trained to cheat, so don't look for relationship, you don't have skills to maintain one

Absolutely!

Was this Rollo or Mystery? I've got this quote engrained but can't remember for the life of me who it is now.

"Like a bullet from a gun it burns...when you realize she was never your girl, it was just your turn." - Skepta

Wrong. I’m not hers, it’s just her turn

⁠@@OsirisNinthinking like this continues to place women in a position of coveted objectification. It’s pedestalizing women while at the same time forsaking them.

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just dont marry or cohabitate in specific states and use surrogate for family that way child is yours 100% legally, caretakers come and go children are forever, too bad wives cant be relied on other than stealing your children.

develop attraction on utube has some good info about women.

The rational male book by Rollo Tomassi

You wanted to be in those relationships and hookups just because of sex. Admit it. Back in the day women used to care about men and children. But men only care about sex. So now take your own medicine.

I have a friend who is a natural, when I asked him how he got good with women, he told me that in high school he by chance ended up in a class with mostly girls and got assigned to a table with some of the sluttiest ones. They all fought over him and slept with him and gave him pointers. He's tall (6'2") but his looks aren't exceptional, pretty average. He's fairly slim but he did high school wrestling and grew up in a rough/scrappy neighborhood, a natural fighter. He's half-black, and idk what his endowment is like.

Dang man. I am going through the exact same thing right now. I’m literally trying to do the right thing and “be into her”. I’ve improved myself immensely during the time I’ve been with her but I’m over 40 now. How old are you?

Send her my way. You didn't deserve her.

I concur. The best GF I ever had was an asset to my life. However, our futures were not aligned. She wanted to settle down & breed. I, at the time, did not. So I broke off with her. It was tough, but the right thing to do. I had firm boundaries, and the spine to enforce them. I treated her with kindness, not weakness. A few times she turned on the waterworks - to no avail. One thing I learned is that people (women in this case) respect strength. And I was rewarded for it. She had my back. And she ALWAYS shared her body with me. She never refused me, not even once. Good times. This woman was so dedicated to being with me that she rode a greyhound bus for 2 days to show up at my door. I had to leave for work, so she spent the entire day cleaning up my apt. Good times. I would rank her a 7 on the attractive scale, but a 12 on the personality & attitude scale.

@@Ace01.. would you take her back now all things equal?

@@Aright231 If all things were equal, then I think there would be a good chance I would take her back. However, this was decades ago. Almost a decade later I married the woman who was my second best GF. This was in the mid 90s. We are still together.

This is very similar to my villain origins story with the exception that I truly stopped giving a 💩. I haven't dated or been intimate with a woman in over 15 years. My avoidant dismissive personality went from a level 10 to 100.

OMG. Thank you so much for this response. I was in similar situation and figured the same things. But, at the end of the day I didn't like the person I was becoming. Realizing that made think that I was right all along. F...k society that clinges towards superficial human contact. That is boring as hell.

Very roughly speaking, you have women who are looking for hot guys / good genes, and you have women who are looking for stable and financially well-off guys / good fathers. (And some women first try to get knocked up by Chad, and then try to convince Bob the accountant to raise Chad's child with her.) You're right that hot guys can get laid by women effortlessly who are looking for hot guys / good genes. There was a dating app experiment once where someone made a fake account of a guy with 10/10 looks. The guy could literally say anything and he'd get the numbers of some girls, including outrageous stuff like writing "anal?" as the opening message, or saying that he just got out of prison for doing inappropriate things with minors. Didn't matter, some women were eager to give him their numbers anyway. Not saying all women, but more than enough for him to have sex with a different woman every single night.

@@HelloWorld-cq1sq I heard about this. I will say it for you: ALL women are like this. The only difference is the price! Some women cost more than others, but they are ALL like this! Because women NEVER, EVER tell the truth, you can trust their self-reporting!

The Halo effect is very real

@@HelloWorld-cq1sq Could you pass me the article about that experiment?

Well it's a bit like a man with odd habits. If he's rich, he's eccentric. If he's poor, he's just a weird loser. So, Elon Musk is a bit eccentric, but the dishevelled old guy in the city who shouts at people is a crazy bum. Henry Cavill being a keen gamer is not the same as the chubby, pimply, neckbeardy 30yo gamer living in his mom's basement. A dot of Yin in your vast expanse of Yang is fine - it can be an interesting quirk. But too much... is too much.

Legen-wait for it- ndary!

I may be going thru this transformation right now. I've been so lonely being the nice guy it gas made me bitter not having ANY luck with them and when l felt l had a connection with some l was overlooked as not being seductive or activating their emotions with game.

@@juankeyblademaster - yeah just realize it's a numbers game, and don't be tied to the outcome. Once you don't care, and approach a lot of girls, and learn from each rejection, to tweak your style or approach, you are on your way. Sucks to go through all the rejection but that's just what it is.

Correction: Such is the life YOU made. It does not have to be that way.

​@@lorrilewis2178 paternity fraud? Pretty sure he wasn't the one committing the fraud. What else are you going to blame the victim of a crime on? Rape? Murder? He had it coming?

@@georgedang449 It should be obvious what I meant. He has chosen to live in a limited way because of ONE woman. That's a CHOICE he made. He could have chosen otherwise, but he decided to extrapolate his ex's behavior to all women.

@@lorrilewis2178 It wasn't ONE woman it was 5 women that made me reevaluate how I was interacting with women. The ex with the paternity fraud was the most egregious one.

Kinda sick what you do to you and others.

Bad boys only exist because women treat men like shit until they become bad boys. Then they want to earn the bad boys love so it means something to them. Ironically though, at that point, you realize all women are whores and there is no reason to care about them anymore.

Disgusting. Boo hoo. Defending abusing and using women because you won't take responsibility for your own feelings and choices for your own relationship history. Clever...? Pathetic more like. Women are more and more spotting men who are really still little boys, more and more quickly. Yuck.

That’s how this player (me) was born!

😂🎉

Congratulations on having no character and thank you for contributing to the problem.

Mad man.

Good luck finding the young girl who isnt a hoe. Young generation hooked on social media

Get your revenge!

Women love evil, so men become it

I'd say distance rather than revenge, being scrupulously honest.

@@sammyb1651 Yeah, distance sums it up pretty well. Like a sensible person seeking a proper distance from a croc.

The black pill is real: looks, money , status. However I would also argue personality and lifestyle are important too. Even if you do have looks, money, and status (e.g. Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Tom Brady) she will eventually get bored and take the money, house and kids on divorce.

@marriage causes divorce I agree. Which is why what the doc is saying is true. Developing a callous attitude will protect you from those downsides. There is a quote I've heard where Voltaire said, give me ten minutes to talk away my ugliness and I can bed the queen of France, but I've been unable to verify he really said this.

Get off the pills man! If you believe that it will be reality as women will agree with you since you stated this. Women dump beta rich men all the time and even male models. Women date how they feel. Alpha confident upper middle class dudes who are average can get women chasing over their soon to be dumped rich doctor bf. Coach Corey wayne and this guy can help you accomplish this. Women want to feel attracted and safe. She needs to see a guy with stuff going on, nothing perturbs him, he also listens to her, and he dates her long after the relationship is established. She knows she can tell him anything etc. FYI doctors are the number one divorced profession besides the uber driver because they do not spend time with their spouses. Practice your game and confidence and work on making her feel good and she will stick around.

​@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 The black pill is that your genes affect your success an order of magnitude more than those redpilled things.

@@edheldude I think the argument between Red Pill vs Black Pill is strikingly similar to the argument between Natural Athlete vs a Grinder (hard-worker). it often takes a LOT longer for the grinder to see success, and its often hit or miss for awhile. thats why People think being a Natural is always a winning play, because you have the immediate success for far less effort & time.

Until you come across a woman who likes good behavior and you treat her like crap. I don't feel sorry for men who are players.

​​​@@saynotohookups😂In reality most men don't have options. It's means they are with women they don't want. And it tell that majority of women have options but choose bad boys on purpose and most men don't have option and get what they can. In that regard if most men are experiencing bad women it means majority of today women are bad not because men are choosing bad. If pool of good women would be as much as pool of good men then the chance of men getting bad women would be lower. Funny thing is that today most bad traits in women are labelled as being strong independent women.

You have a female centric view. Maybe instead of women being convinced they deserve less, that women themselves don't want what you think they do.

Don't compromise your morals just for temporary favor from women.....

Please teach me my gf dumped me on my bday and I feel miserable I realised some of the mistakes I made as well but I feel like I’m naive In many ways

@@aaronalbuquerque9510 i could teach that, but i live in Germany. are you actually sure you want to learn that? because you won't be the same person anymore afterwards. And the "Magic" of Girls will be gone. It won't be as exciting anymore, as it is now. In the beginning it's a bit painfull and You won't be able to see women anymore like you do now.

there are some pretty ugly truths you have to face.

​@@flutsch3265leave him be he looks innocent 😂😂

@@flutsch3265 i am ready to learn everything you have to teach. Is the offer still there.

Maybe stop putting your bitterness on other women. You are just like those women who hate men because some dikk sexually assaulted them and now for the rest of their lives they hate men. I used to think like that. Now i see that men are just like women. We are allies, friends. And god loves men and women. We will figure our hurt out, where it comes from.

Some men believe it's beneficial for all men to have a "player" phase. Would you agree?

@@caucasianafrican1435 I would agree with that. Until I went through that phase, it was basically impossible for me to be honest with myself about what I wanted in a woman nor to be 100% open and honest with a women. After the transformation, I can communicate much more openly and clearly, which leads to more clear boundaries with the women I interact with. Maybe I'm the outlier, but I know old school PUA would advocate communication as a pivotal skill, because if you are going to juggle 3 women, it's easiest to let them know that's the arrangement up front, rather than lie to them. I've never pulled off having multiple women at once, but the sentiment is the same that communication is key. Looking back, being a "nice guy" mostly consisted of me lying to myself to suppress my desires and accept relationships (friendships) that weren't what I wanted. Maybe it's called being a player, or maybe its called maturing. I think if I hadn't gone through this period, I think I would have ended up in a relationship with women I "settled" for, resulting in being bitter and resentful. Or worse, I would never have dated and I would have spiraled into even worse bitter, resentful, and hateful feelings. I'd like to find 1 women who I can spend the rest of my life with, but I think I couldn't appreciate that 1 person if I hadn't been with a lot of others.

@@caucasianafrican1435i agree. Not saying every guy must have a body count of 300+ but having some experience with women before entering your first serious relationship would be advisable. The reason being, you'll already have a proper idea of the kind of woman you want for a long term relationship, and you'll be less tolerant of bs because you know can get any woman if that relationship ends. You'll be more likely to behave like a classic nice guy, appeasing your gf because you don't want to lose her if you don't learn first hand how to deal with women

Bro try fasting to reset your mind and body. No one what will happen but give it a try.

​@@nigelbhebhe2805 No parent with working brains would let their daughter marry a man with 300+ bodycount. Would you?

Bu the sounds of it I'm in the first category. Thanks for writing it up 👍🏻

There are two books you need to read. The Rational Male and the Unplugged Alpha.

I think why many men (myself too) got played is just a lack of knowledge. I am now 27 years old and if I could talk to my younger self (18 years old) I would tell him so much stuff he has to do differently. Most of us are heavily influenced by movies, series etc. combined with values we as men value like loyalty, bravery, honesty, which unfortunately we cant expect (most of the time) of women. I grew up with Dragonball Z and for me is loyalty and bravery so important that I basically dont like 98% of people. I compare them to my standards and they fail miserable. And its getting even worse if I compare my standards to the women I met because they probably will never met those. If I am staying the alpha champ, who she desires, I guess yes, but if not, its over. So this problem is man made and the solution would be just to be honest and talk about the nature of women and men with young teenegers, but this will never happen, because there is way to much money to make with all this shit because our sex drive as man basically focus ALL our actions just to fuck at the end of the day. So why no manipulate all of this and make some money with it?

I experienced love several times, or what passes for it from women, ie utility. But I guess I didn't care about it too much as I was getting my 🍆 polished. But I then got exposed to the reality of female nature.