Where should Nagelsmann go next? 👇

Definitely a harsh and strange sacking. Why spend so much money on a young manager to bin it like that?

I feel like they had one reason to fire Naglesmann that they're not telling, and now they're throwing thousands of potential reasons

When you have a club that wins the league just about every season, the only thing left to strive for is perfection

ok they're not winning the league by 20 points but they're literally dominating the champions league. there has to be another reason

I feel like the question we should be asking is, "Would Nagelsmann still have a job if Tuchel wasn't available?"

Jan throwing shots at Barcelona with the "more than a football club" + "being corrupt"

Lovely Minority Report reference. Also, thanks for the insight on Bayern

The reason they sacked Nagelsmann because Tuchel is available and someone else is asking about his availability. Like it or not they have to react.

Now I want Dortmund to win the title 10x more 💀

The Barca dig was savage

Simple, because he didn't win the league in December

Seemingly baffling, but that's the Bayern way, monolithic executive structure that does as it pleases.

The biggest reason to explain this is the limited availability window of Tuchel.

The movie is Minority Report.

Can't believe how quickly things spiraled for Nagelsmann after that PSG game. Mané's outburst really exposed the cracks in the team. Crazy how one decision can have such a massive impact on a coach's career.

Loved the Precog reference!

He should refuse spurs under the current regime. It’s the regime that needs to change not the manager. And they need a massive clear out. The players are way too comfortable. And I’m a Gooner!!!!

Raphael and Jan on the same podcast. Doesn’t get any better.

People don't like to admit it but Bayern's standards had dropped under Nagelsmann in the Bundesliga, especially this season..barring 5-6 convincing wins, every other match has been a real struggle with long stretches of the matches without any sort of control and cohesion and relying on individual brilliance.. it is still a harsh decision, but I could understand the board as well..

At 10:25, the Tom Cruise film that Rafa is referring to is: "Minority Report".

Rapha and Jan are fantastic

When Favre was in Borussia Bayern were 9 points behind at some point, and they still won the title. So one point behind is almost equal to them being ahead.

Seems like one of those where Bayern wanted him because at the time he was the best coach in the league especially when you don't include Flick, Klopp and Tuchel weren't available and it also allowed them to weaken a direct rival which they often do at player level as well. However I think the issue throughout his time was that J.N is very much a modern coach with modern ideas in and outside of football where as Bayern strike me as a very traditional club, they like people to come in and conform to their way of thinking, I remember reading that Oliver Kahn wasn't impressed by what he wears on the touchline, so it was probably doomed from the start and JN was probably always fighting an uphill battle with the hierarchy at Bayern. That's probably also why he fit in so well at Leipzig and Hoffenheim because they're much more modern clubs without traditions that he could go against and therefore they conformed to him. I think he could work really well at Spurs because I doubt they'd care about what he does off the field so long as he doesn't embarrass the club or doesn't win games. I personally see him going to Liverpool in the future but If I were Tottenham I'd reach out to him immediately and look to tie him down to join in the summer and give him whatever he wants.

Love you Mark, but hold a Cup or something to keep your hand busy

The club did not like his partner.. you know, the journalist. It wouldn't surprise me if the club was tired of her or if she has some serious dirt on Bayern. Man probably tried to play both sides of this and got wrecked by both. They said it in the beginning - reputation is everything to Bayern. There's something more happening here.

One way or another, the board is admitting it made a mistake. Which one was it: hiring him, or firing him? Frankly, I'm a bit disappointed since I see Bayern as a well-run club not prone to rash, short-term decisions. Not winning the league is not the end of the world even for them, if leads to long-term success. Transition isn't usually seamless; you have to withstand the bumps to get to a new phase of success. Arsenal and Arteta are a good example.

One point off top, just knocked out PSG. Seems odd.

Bayern inexplicably blew a nine-point lead at the top of the Bundesliga table. THAT is the primary reason why Nagelsmann got the boot. Secondarily, Bayern felt they needed to grab a high-profile manager (Tuchel) before he signed with another club. We'll see how THAT works out. We all remember the Carlo Ancelotti debacle.

Minority report I think Ralf was on about

I'd love a meme of Kahn, Salihamizic and ... not sure a third as the pre cogs of Minority Report

Lampard as Interim Manager, It makes sense. He knows most of the Squad and he knows Chelsea FC. Nagelsmann will NOT be taking the Chelsea Managers roll. For me, if not Mourinho, then Enrique, although Gallardo would also be a great choice, even if both are unproven in the PL, they know the ropes and what it takes. But if Chelsea are thinking Enrique, why not now? So it must be him dragging his feet, for whatever reason, so that is not good. I would have thought getting a full time Manager in now would be the best idea, that way he can bed-in and be ready for next Season, while having some idea which direction to go in. Not sure what Chelsea did before against Wolves has to do with the here and now and the words "clutching at and straws" springs to mind, but hey-ho. Paez would be a hell of a signing, "if" they can pull it off. Growing and will become a Superstar. He is not just a goal scorer, he is a goal maker, but....we all know Chelsea and their signing goal-scorers' record, so forgive me if I do not get too excited until I actually see it work. Hojlund would be another one and has the potential to be as good as, if not better than, Haaland and he is only 20. Of course we are talking Chelsea and their rep as "Graveyard for Strikers", so we will have to see.

With the reasons stated here. He should not have been hired in the 1st place if they feel he was not a good culture fit.

There seems to be an issue recently of a disconnect between management and one person. Kovac, Hansi Flick now Naglesmann. Managers have complained about not getting the right level of support in the market, there’s one person who’s responsible with this and that’s Salihamidzic. Flick really doesn’t like him, I’m sure down the line Nagelsmann will echo the same sentiment- he comes across as a DoF who thinks he should be the manager and dictate transfer policy. He talks and unsettles the fan base which contributes to sacking a manager they paid €34m RBL for. Surely there has be questions about Salihamidzic and his influence?

What wasn't mentioned is that FC Bayern had an unbalanced squad. They had 3 midfielders, nearly 20 wingers, not a single striker for the penalty area, and only one goalkeeper, along with just 4 center-backs but 10 full-backs. After this season, Bayern lost their best players because they had had enough. This disaster didn't spare Uli Hoeneß, as both the sporting director and Kahn were fired. Kahn had fired Anchelotti, Flick and many more after overperforming, it was so bad under Kahn, that Club legends like Tiger Hermann left the club.

Bayern is going to look foolish if Tuchel doesn't win them the champions league.

How did ancelotti lose the bayern dressing room? Honest question

This is probably the best analysis I've heard. Bayern's board lacks self-awareness. They signed Nagelsmann to a 5-year contract as though they would have the patience to let him embed his philosophy. They are far too anxious and have too big of egos to do that. I hope club members respond and reshuffle the board, because it just doesn't work having a board that wants to fight basically every manager if there's even an inkling of an issue. It makes the club look unprofessional, since even top coaches get disrespected and mistreated.

IF Bayern win the CL this year you can make the very good argument that they are the 2nd biggest club in football history regarding titles, players and records. So all the important stuff. ;) I think its good thinking striving for the highest level. If Nagelsmann wasnt working behind the scenes then so be it. Tuchel will have one hell of a start. will be so interesting to watch.

Thanks for not giving us any answers

I was looking at some games of Bayern in the previous seasons , even with great results , this season under Nagelsmann , Bayern game style is the worst I seen ! Sorry for him , but I am happy for Tuchel !

They always wanted Tuchel. Julian is just a backup they performed really well so they didn't sack him earlier when Thomas was out from Chelsea. Bayern is always about image.

Well if any of you watched any Bayern matches you would see that they do create chances , but they cant finish them. Is it Julians fault that he lost Lewandowski and his replacmenent is a guy who saved more goals in one season of Ligue1 than actually scored. Now not to make fun of Choupo , he has actually became a very solid player, but he aint Lewandowski. He aint Mbappe, Leao, Haaland, Kane , Jesus, Lautaro , Immobile etc etc. And you see where this is going. You aint gonna be the worlds best team without a world class striker. And when they decide to play Mane with Muller upfront like they did against Leverkusen , they just not suited for that role. Its the same shit like with German national team. Great GKs , good defence, great Midfield , great Wingers but the striker role is Slovakia level . Also yes their performances in Bundesliga this year have been pretty poor for their standards, but to be fair in CL i thought only City is capable of beating them . They played great in CL . And given Citys record in CL , Bayern wouldnt be huge underdog. Maybe it aint the coach, maybe its the League and players. Maybe it doesnt seem that way but it can be tough to stay motivated through the season when you are levels above your rivals and 3 levels above the rest of the League. Just look at PSG. Same stuff. You can lack motivation when before the season starts, they are basicaly both already crowned champions lol.

I'm guessing Bayern's head coach is given similar sort of scrutiny to England's manager. I'm not sure whether that's the right comparison though. In England we don't exactly have one team who are seen as the jewel of the country's crown, the closest would be Man United. Our support is a lot more spread out and certainly very tribal. In Germany, it very much seems like if Bayern fail, German football fails, but I might be wrong. Anyhow, I'm fascinated by German football and German culture.

Would be nice to see an actual competitive German league,. I like bayern but it’s just boring year after year. And sadly the Premier League is looking more and more like it’s going that direction as well.

Love how the correspondents talking about Bayern seem appropriately pompous about the whole thing. After all it's Bayern, the bestest club that can do no wrong. Can't wait for Kahn and Tuchel to get into a fistfight at some point

The reason is in between when he started complaining about the leak of strategies and his new gf who was a reporter for BILD.

You can critisize Nagelsmann all you want, but the truth is that his sacking was very unprofessional. Brazzo and Kahn made a complete 180 on their promises. They even said they would be willing to not win the league for one season because they believed in Nagelsmann and the long term project. Massive hypocrites.

This aged like milk

no experience it’s not for bayern

People forget about how Hansi Flick decided to quit Bayern because he couldn’t stand the management, namely Salihamdozic! Maybe Nagelsmann isn’t the problem. Also I don’t buy the whole argument that Bayern acts before the crisis deepens… no way. That sounds BS to me. You can’t operate like that. Sometimes those so-called “signs” are merely coincidences.

Why not Bayern asked Chelsea to swap their coaches? Nagelsmann to Chelsea and Tuchel to Bayern.... then we shouldn't be worrying about firing and hiring managers anymore....

Germans don’t show off. To do so is frowned upon a bit.

This Nagalsmann sacking reminds me of what happened with Celtics and Ime Udoka. At first it was shocking to know that an excellent young coach got fired. And then, with time, the sexual conduct issue made the news. If he's been fired ONLY because of performance, theyre foolish.

They're only on target for a treble

Bayern made a huge mistake sacking him. Tuchel awful and Leverkusen BD champions now.

Too quiet.

Dey don't respect because he younger den some of de players

Spot on, Bayern was too big for Nagelsmann, just as Chelsea was too big for Potter. Neither can handle the egos, or the expectations of such a huge Club and if Bayern was too big for Nagelsmann, when they are in a quite healthy position, then he has absolutely no chance with Chelsea. Not to mention the fact that he has said he does not want the Chelsea job and would prefer Spurs.

10:34 minority report

Nice of Chapman to show up for work . Thanks Mark .

So nothing to do with inappropriate phone calls to members of the female team?

Minority report!!

What a stupid decision by the club

Nagelsmann to Chelsea 🙏🏼

This sounds like a lot of BS.

Everyone could see in all social platforms that Athletic has some serious problems against Barca lmao. So unprofessional for a media outlet, pathetic

He should go to Spurs. However he needs to be successful there as it can send your career progress back a few years as in seen by Jose and soon to be Conte who will more then likely go back to a struggling Juve team

There was no shred of Mia San Mia in the sacking of Nagelsmann. Kahn and Salihamidzic lack the patience, credibility and foresight to run a big club like Bayern Munich.

Tottenham have also senior Stars, like the keeper, Song and Kane.

Simply love Jan Aaage's delivery, illustrative and thus interesting

The only thing I hear in this chat between "pundits", is: I think, Maybe, I heard, etc. Never I spoke with x-y-z and they told me this and that. Please go back to real journalism and stop speculating and start reporting proper stories!!

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6:40 was that dig at Barca necessary? I thought media personnel should be neutral in all topics!

Chelsea

Tbh i personally want Bayern to lose the tittle just because of the unjust sacking. Let the Bayern boards learn about some professionalism and humility.

The Athletic should at least mention the possibility of Müller’s role in all this, given that JN was shifting towards Musiala as a #10, which is Müller’s favourite position at both the club and the national team…

It's the shit show that football is now that teams like Bayern expect , demand to win the league every year until the end of time. That's not football , no competition at all isn't healthy . Clubs have to expect not win from time to time.

doesn't surprise me that Nagelsman's flamboyance ruffled the wrong feathers. The blazer he wore at Old Trafford a few years ago made him look as conceited as that self obsessed gonk Scott Parker

why don't you talk about why southgate started a rightback who sexually assaulted a woman in public and on camera?