You're absolutely right here. There are universal things that appeal to every person on the planet. We might react to them in slightly different ways as men or women, but we can all relate with the struggles you mentioned. Bad writing is like a plague lately, and it just seems to be spreading faster

I'm praying for the day to return. We used to just have fun at the movies!

Probably not on Gen Z generation...

But honestly i want more shows that just do fun things, for fun, for the viewers to have fun like....i guess Tom & Jerry

​​​​​​@@GengUpinIpin Most of the people complaining about Disney's lack of quality and terrible "girlboss" woman cliche right now are in gen z. I can't believe that gen z is the one on your side while millennials and gen x are the ones making these awful movies are pushing the "girlboss" crap, and yet y'all blame gen z because it's trendy to pretend that gen z created these problems right now. Why are y'all too scared to also call out older generations?

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 sorry thats what i get writing this being half asleep, didnt even remember i watched this No excuse for anything i said, it was pure false halsty conclusions for unneeded context, i was just feeling hopeless (so i've known nothing behind whats real, just enjoyed the results and suddenly seeing things like BlueSky, CN, and now Disney....yeah im worse) Felt like for a moment even in the best case scenario my gen aint gonna do nothing just cause i cant aswell Again hasty conclusions But after almost a year.....still feels like shit. At least i got to know what kind of people that got to direct/act/etc on what movies

yeah, she totally throws a jealous fit about it.

Thanks for watching Neel!

THIS

Well women are not men and never will be. These idiots should be fired for such idiotic ideals that insult male characters and make all females flawless Mary Sues.

Black widow will be heavily featured in part 2. She's an interesting case study, because at first, she was purely eye candy, just there to get men in the theater. There was even a large discussion around her movie poster poses where she was somehow twisted to show her boobs and butt simultaneously. But what's interesting is that as they developed her character more through the series, her looks became less of an emphasis and her story took center stage. She ended up being a very compelling and strong character The rumor is that her movie was supposed to be before endgame, but they decided that Captain Pander was more important

The only good female they ever made was a Disney Princess But most people don't want Disney Princess they want people like black widow tomb raider He can't just continue on a singular form of a female they're different types of strong women out there

*deferent

Agree

@@nunyabusiness164 that's not even a word dude

There's a nuance here. For example, both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Steven Seagal play very masculine characters. But Arnold's characters are generally remembered fondly, and Seagal's are remembered poorly if at all. Why? Take "Predator". Arnold fails most of the movie. The Predator kills the team he leads right out from under him, and Arnold can't save a single one of them. The only person he manages to save is the prisoner, and only by displaying a feminine trait: personality insight. He then proceeds to get the shit kicked out of him again, and only wins via cunning and manipulation, feminine traits. And then afterwards our last view of him on the choppa is him looking traumatized and neither masculine nor feminine but just very human. Meanwhile most Disney female characters these days come off as Steven Seagal characters: relentlessly masculine, never for a moment weak or defeated, and completely immune to trauma.

I appreciate the sub! This was much more fun to make than the typical [thing] Is Bad videos.

@@gregowen2022And I am totally grateful for that! For example: I am a big fan of She-Hulk in the comics, but I haven't enjoyed the show. When I talked about it with my friends, they just said I didn't like it because I am a guy. Most of the videos on KZfaq don't help either b/c they are mostly aimed from a politics standpoint. Your video was a breath of fresh air that helped put the feeling I had about the show into words. Look forward to your future vids!

I appreciate the subscription! It was tough to find good examples. Scarlett witch will be in part 2 heavily. They seriously took her wish to be a normal mom and used it to make her a murdering psychopath.

@@gregowen2022 Looking forward to it. From what they turned her relationship with Vision into (the floating argument in WandaVision onwards) to her rationale for absorbing Chavez's power instead of just using her to go live in a different universe, there's rampant character assassination.

That's a solid point, and explains a lot of the sillicon valley tech guys as well. Same issue there. It's rare to be able to let that stuff go

@@gregowen2022 it really does

Haha, pretty much

You're right, and we call that 'negging' when douchebag pickup artists do it. It's gross

I appreciate it very much!

Kind comments like yours make the KZfaq marathon much easier, thank you so much

I really appreciate that! I'm learning editing as I go, and I'm surprised to find it's kind of my favorite part

Let's not forget that ALOT of her "dominance" over the Predator comes from the Predator being "incompatent" at the perfect moment for her to avoid getting killed! And guess what, they STILL screwed themselves when they realized "Oh shit, we forgot this was a prequel to that flintlock that was given to Harrigan by the elder Predator at the end of Predator 2" so the ending of Prey pretty much made it clear "she and her tribe are pretty much DOOMED" and they were hoping no one was "paying attention" (Have their cake and eat it) Just more prove the suits don't give a shit about SJW and Feminism and just say and do what they do. If I remember, Prey was only made because they were losing the license to use the Predator IP if I remember! So it was a throwaway in "Feminism clothing!" This is why when "Suits talk about social stuff and claim they care! Take a BIG look at HOW MUCH they do by the budget and circumstances around these's "projects!" Like The SW Sequel Trilogy doing it's best to show "Finn" was just the "minor black Comedy relief" and were counting HEAVY that the feminists would preotect them! Kathleen Only pushed the "Force is female" crap because she wanted the big Feminist organizations to "protect her job" as when it fails, the big wigs could remove her without invoking those groups "wrath" but that was only a "Delay" she was hoping things might turn around! They didn't and the GOOD SW stuff NOT under her and the fact their now SUFFERING from her boneheaded movie and show decisions was just showing the big wigs she had to go! Her "leaving" means her allies have "abandon her" and she's being ORDERED to leave on her own! (Likely a promise that if she leaves in this manner! She can get SOME benefits instead of leaving kicking and screaming and getting NOTHING for it but humilation! She's taking her Loser Prize while she can and hope she gets forgotten eventually despite the fact it is now CANON to the Star Wars Fandom that she is "the worst thing along with Disney getting it" hopefully repairs will save the series! I don't really care since I ignore the existance of the massive Retcon Disney implimented entirely! Only adding the stuff like the Mandalorian and Fallen Order/Jedi Survivor the stuff that WAS good and moving on with my day LOL) It's run it's course and proven that "it doesn't work in the long term!" SJW and their Allies wreck havoc with big companies that CAN'T affor this crap to survive much longer! They only get so far because they have to wait till it's "too big to fail" that the investors get lazy and ignorant to try and only get ousted when the money isn't flowing in! Believe me if they couldn't exploit "tax write offs" and such. ALOT of these's stinkers might never have come to be!

Thank you!

Much appreciated!

@@gregowen2022hi Greg, I want to say is to have a great day and will be wanting for your next video😊. I have a movie that I ask you in the live stream and that movie was 1915 Birth of a Nation. The movie maybe interested because of the plot and the what happened after the movie was released in 1915. And I hope you are doing ok and bye.

It's gotten so much worse. Basically, the entire new hero lineup is snarky girlbosses with no flaws. They are all extremely similar characters with no depth or introduction to the audience. They just appeared in place of their male predecessor. Phase 5 and 6 is in for a rough ride because people aren't going to connect with these new heros like they did with the originals you mentioned

Right? I can't speak on behalf of women, but it seems insulting to have female characters who only win when the deck is stacked for them

@@gregowen2022 honestly its been a new Trope in Hollywood to act like their were no strong female character back then on a side note love your content so far

Wow, that is an incredibly kind thing to say. Thank you so much!

Nice to be back, thanks for joining me!

She was amazing, right? "strong leadership" doesn't have to mean "masculine" and she proved it. Sadly it was a clear accident, as they never replicated it

I really appreciate it! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. It's so sad that this pandering is putting women as a whole in a bad light. Now these podcast hosts have more ammo to hate women. Lovely

@@gregowen2022 seriously! These dudes always go on about how older female characters were “strong AND feminine!” and how we need to get back to femininity and pushing some red pilled agenda but there was nothing particularly “soft and feminine” about Ripley or Sarah Conner. They weren’t modern Instagram baddies touched up w photoshop and sexualized like you see today, or tradwife archetypes. They were WELL WRITTEN. *That* is what is missing, not some weird 1950s nostalgia that didn’t even exist back then (I’m also old enough to remember how much shit Linda Hamilton got from the media for getting super buff for T2, lol some of these podcast bros weren’t even born yet). How did we get to the point where female characters are not only way more sexualized, but so shitty in terms of writing? It’s a tragedy

So we should just go back to just seeing white males on tv

It's such a sad place for them and so insulting towards women.

@@gregowen2022 and yet somehow they call us racist, homophobes and misogynists!

I appreciate the kind words and the sub! They say KZfaq is a marathon, so I guess we just have to keep on going

@@gregowen2022 Here after Velma, and saying "Good job!"

Bingo. Rita Vratasky from "Edge of Tomorrow" shows (on the surface) some physically masculine fighting traits, but she's not a female character masquerading as a man. The male lead in that film (Cage) starts off as an iffy coward, but his growth as a character and her skills as a fighter have an in-story plot reason that makes sense, and the male and female leads play off each other without the "She'" belittling and making the "He" look bad. They're a bad-ass team in a terribly difficult life-and-death situation, and she's emotionally closed off and damaged because of the man she deeply knew before (Hendricks) who was killed in battle. Great character, great movie.

@@peteg475 good example. i love good team work. and i love strong characters.

Like Sylvie and Loki in the series of the same name. Watch how they humiliate, take away all his glory, intelligence, abilities and make a fool of Loki to elevate Sylvie, look how everyone around her tells her that she is the best. It is not surprising considering that the screenwriter is Michael Waldron, someone with barely any experience in his job, of all the people Marvel/Disney could hire they chose him, why?

Very true. They gave her a waist cut instead! Eh?....I'll think of a better joke later.

Yep, they just want the internet points and praise. It's gross

And she didn't stop to eat beans at any point. 0/10 realism!

What are you talking about?

Poe was never phenomenal, but I think he was downgraded from 7 to 8 so they could create drama and also make her look better.

Possible. I think it's just that guys are responding to the metoo movement and trying to pander to women, but they still don't know how to write them. This is just a shallow move to appeal to modern feminism

Not lesbian, but men who don't know how to write women as human first

It's a sad disservice. Now we have new female characters who don't have a backstory or anything for us to connect to. They just said "here's your new version of the character you've gotten to know for ten years. Like her! Like her now!"

You're spot on, on both accounts. Men and women aren't competitors, we are symbiotes. Every major religion and philosophy affirm this, but America for the last 30 years has decided to try something different. And yes, these companies are shaking in their boots, terrified of a single misstep. And we can see the result: boring characters who certainly don't offend anyone, in the same way that toast doesn't offend anyone, because neither one excites any emotion whatsoever.

@@gregowen2022 And, ironically, boring characters actually end up offending everyone in the majority of their consumer base, making them lose money anyway. But, these companies would rather lose money from the majority of their customers than anger the minority of liberals who watch their stuff. Also did you see my comment about my own comic I mentioned?

@@blackagent4754 I saw the bit about Luke Cage, but I missed you talking about your own. Now I'm interested! These companies need to quit listening to Twitter. People are far less upset than they pretend to be online

@@blackagent4754 I saw it happen! I saw your comment before I left for work, now here I am and it's gone! I'm on Instagram at greg_owen_says

Maybe next time they should write female or minority superheroes as if they're white male?

Username checks out

Yes, they don't exclude each other

Extremely toxic, and they weirdly write the women with the toxic masculine traits they hate so much. It's strange

@@gregowen2022 Feels like they do that because they're secretly gay.

I would absolutely agree. Disney and other companies seem to only value the masculine traits, though. We don't notice it too much when they do it to men, because we are used to masculine men. It's so jarring when they do it to women, though, because they shed all traces of femininity and only promote the masculine.

Yes

That is an interesting idea, but I'm curious how it might work. Have you seen the new Dr Who? He doesn't exactly have powers, but he is on adventures and saving the day, and Gatwa is playing him quite femininly. If you've seen it, I'm interested to know if that's the kind of thing you had in mind, or what differences would improve it.

@@gregowen2022 He's a fantastic example, to be honest. You're on the right track. 😉

The views for Dr Gatwa don't seem to be doing well. Would you say it's because he's a legacy character that is changing, or the audience isn't into a feminine male hero, or that they aren't into it currently, but something like Dr Gatwa is a first step to get the audience comfortable with the idea? To be open, I'm not much for Dr Who, I don't have history with it, only watching it because we talk about it on stream at times. I've seen three episodes of Dr Gatwa now, and I can't say I dislike him, but I also wouldn't say I'm entirely enjoying it either. Still undecided. Part of my issue with him specifically is not his femininity, but his manic attitude. It's odd.

@@gregowen2022 it's probably because it's not yet a trend that we can't study the show that well. However, we can look at characters like Hades (Hercules) and Scar (Lion King) and they are beloved for that dark feminine energy. Only because feminine male characters have traditionally been written off as cowards like Captain Hook or villains like Jafar. I think this type of character has yet to become a trend, though.

@BlinkBlink-bv3gv Hades and Scar are interesting examples, and I can see a comparison between them and someone like Ursula. Thanks so much for the replies and perspective!

Both the MCU and DCEU are complete dogshit

@@shigermuleye5203 I agree, but Kathleen Turner's Maddie Walker is not the only Strong Female character (or style of strength) look back to the mother (Patricia Neil) in the movie 'Homecoming' that set up the series Waltons. There was nothing 'sexy about either the mother or the grandmother in that film/show, but they played important roles in the lives of their husbands, children, and even the town. Look also to the female protagonist in the novel 'The Beauty Queen' by Patricia Nell Warren. Jeannie is not a sex pot--although she is an aging Beauty Queen--in the story, but a strong woman with independent ideas on things like society and even homosexuality--thing Anita Bryant--and she is strong. Strong enough to run for governor of NYC. So, you see there are plenty of role models for women, without simply gender swapping a male for a female. Doing this also points out that STANDAR by which ALL people should be measured is the Alpha Male.

First of all, I absolutely adore alliteration, so never apologize for it. Second, here's part two kzfaq.info/get/bejne/epdmgJafrZyRgY0.html You're right that regular women are in a very difficult place because if they enjoy their own femininity, all forms of media tell them they are wrong and holding back womankind. It's anecdotal, but most of the women I know in their 30s are trying to stay home because it turns out work actually sucks and isn't glamorous at all and they want to see the kids they made.

The first of many, I hope!

@@gregowen2022 Been binge watching all the Hulk related videos recently and just happened to notice no one else had commented yet. Have never been first before. Lol.

So much of recent marvel has been shallow fan pandering (fandering?) instead of actual thought out hints and references and real cohesion.

Yeah, they have made it impossible to connect with these new female characters, it's awful. Also, thanks for getting the damn Super Why song in my head!

@@gregowen2022 😂 that’s what I do. And thanks for the enlightening video.

@@gregowen2022 that’s why I’m here 😂

Right, they are chasing woke feminist trends, but in a way that promotes masculine superiority. The point is that they either make their women manly, or compare them to men on screen. Either way, they love men.