Why Do Asus ROG Pre-Builts Suck So Bad?

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Dawid Does Tech Stuff

Dawid Does Tech Stuff

2 жыл бұрын

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I have a look at another gaming pre-built with Asus Republic of Gamers branding on it, which makes me think, why do they suck so bad?
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@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
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@iiKolin
@iiKolin 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a pre built that has a 3060 👀
@yourhandlehere1
@yourhandlehere1 2 жыл бұрын
Take a Dremel with a small cutting wheel and make those fake vents functional.
@Processing....
@Processing.... 2 жыл бұрын
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@AnnaDoes
@AnnaDoes 2 жыл бұрын
Looool. The ‘fake’ front airflow marketing just breaks me.
@skids6885
@skids6885 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonman1209 The case got better airflow than my own custom build.
@Psyberify
@Psyberify 2 жыл бұрын
@@skids6885 That’s impressive. Is it in just a metal shell?
@skids6885
@skids6885 2 жыл бұрын
@@Psyberify i was sorta joking on my sentence, since my case only has ventilation from the side towards the front io. In others words it doesn't breath. Just the interior exhaust fan at the back of the case is effective. The case has a very nice exterior with a tempered glass side panel, and a brushed aluminum look front panel.
@DenverStarkey
@DenverStarkey 2 жыл бұрын
@@skids6885 my case makes this case look like an air tight coffin. i'm using a CoolerMaster HAF XB lanbox/test bench case. two 120x120 fans in front one in back and a big 200x200 fan on top. the main board lays down in this style of case so i coupled it with a Be quiet Shadow rock top down cooler.
@skids6885
@skids6885 2 жыл бұрын
@@DenverStarkey That case looks somewhat like a box server ngl, but still really cool, that case has alotta airflow ventilation. Makes me replace my case with something similar since my cpu temps always spikes high underload.
@OrcCorp
@OrcCorp 2 жыл бұрын
"Actual airflow is better than marketed airflow." - Dawid 2021
@trentonmeeuwsen739
@trentonmeeuwsen739 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely in the top 100 things he’s ever said, someone make a list
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@trentonmeeuwsen739 I would love a list. 😂
@trentonmeeuwsen739
@trentonmeeuwsen739 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff we need a community forum where we can all upload our favorite bits and lines and upvote our favorites, someone got on this that knows what they are doing
@Raiggonaxes
@Raiggonaxes 2 жыл бұрын
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@masonlapoint6864
@masonlapoint6864 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff can you do a follow up on the cpu fan mount and go indepth on if you can or can't take everything out and put it in a different case
@tokethYT
@tokethYT 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I'll never understand is why they go through the effort of faking vents, when they could just use less material and have actual vents...
@kiranlast4593
@kiranlast4593 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the process to make usable vents, they may be actually wasting or matching the material used to do so, but I'm sure it is probably more due to manufacturing costs than material costs.
@elephystry
@elephystry Жыл бұрын
Planned obsolescence, I imagine
@swallowedinthesea11
@swallowedinthesea11 10 ай бұрын
It's like people who buy fake hood vents and riotously stick them on their Toyotas and say they're muscle cars!
@DarianRamkissoon
@DarianRamkissoon 8 ай бұрын
​@@elephystryI don't see that, the hardware will never run hotter (if you do basic maintenance). That case is just poor design
@Boogie_the_cat
@Boogie_the_cat Ай бұрын
More effort is required to machine the holes for flow. I'm not saying that is good justification. The problem lies with vendors wanting to sell products with round numbers (i.e. $500, $550, $575) so if the machining costs an extra $3, the vendor doesn't want to have an "weird" number (not a zero or 5) in their "round" price. It's the dumbest sh1t in the world.
@andrewcrizpy
@andrewcrizpy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dawid I’m glad your channel keeps growing your contents always been original and funny and informative all at the same time
@wueiboei7666
@wueiboei7666 2 жыл бұрын
ASUS engineer: There's no air flow! ASUS marketing: But there's Photoshop!
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@bitonic589
@bitonic589 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff lmao
@BenCos2018
@BenCos2018 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@crenn6977
@crenn6977 2 жыл бұрын
I think it probably was someone doing the marketing looked at pictures of the case, assumed it was ventilation/intake for the case and highlighted it with out checking. Edit: Assumed not assembled...
@whiterabbit75
@whiterabbit75 2 жыл бұрын
Corporate "thinking" at its best.
@valentine8161
@valentine8161 2 жыл бұрын
The last time I saw Chicony's logo was on my 14 year old Chicony membrane keyboard that surprisingly still works well and has no letters peeled off of it.
@lukatosic4447
@lukatosic4447 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that makes me feel safer. Hopefully it's not like gigabyte.
@lukatosic4447
@lukatosic4447 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ivy-pe2wz never heard of it. maybe since I wasn't born in the 90's. Thanks for the info they do seem alright enough.
@mariuszstykaa1853
@mariuszstykaa1853 2 жыл бұрын
i have chickony's keyboard that is ps 2 and 11 Years old it wos used with athlon xp or sempron windows xp based maschine(fun fact it was having giant turbo "ninja" flower cooler fool Cooper temp under full load 35) its still working perfectly Fine and ITS MECHANIC KEYBOARD at its buy date it cost obout 20 $
@mariuszstykaa1853
@mariuszstykaa1853 2 жыл бұрын
full cooper
@lucidnonsense942
@lucidnonsense942 2 жыл бұрын
Their 80s early 90s keyboards had blue Alps and other highly sought after switches, then they got infected with the rubber virus.
@qr5393
@qr5393 Жыл бұрын
The particular prebuilt in the thumbnail is actually pretty good for the price if you spend a extra 50 bucks on more ram to alleviate that single channel problem. It's fairly upgradable too. For $500 or $550 (including the ram upgrade I mentioned) that's a good deal.
@Zeracey
@Zeracey Жыл бұрын
no
@ryanwells1484
@ryanwells1484 Жыл бұрын
@@Zeracey this now has a 3080 with 11gen I7 for 900 its even cheaper and worth now that parts are not scarce. But say no
@SirHeartbreakertheFirst
@SirHeartbreakertheFirst Жыл бұрын
@@Zeracey NPC
@diamondxdragons
@diamondxdragons 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having one of those console PCs, the Asus G20 and that thing ran hot all the time and because it was in a small form factor, had little to no upgradability. For $1k back in 2010, that was a lot for a gaming PC but it was absolutely trash. Within the year it shitted so I basically took out my frustration on the thing before tossing it into the recycler. Ironically enough, that was my spark to start building my own systems and such and I'm happy that it happened.
@Knightlord1
@Knightlord1 2 жыл бұрын
guys he's addicted to buying prebuilds, he must be stopped!
@Pacbandit13
@Pacbandit13 2 жыл бұрын
Needs an intervention
@humbdedumb6009
@humbdedumb6009 2 жыл бұрын
Cancel that, the boy is doin' fine he's got my attention.
@frederickclause2694
@frederickclause2694 2 жыл бұрын
For those of us that don't have the knowledge to build our own I find his reviews of pre-builds educational.
@lumine8594
@lumine8594 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederickclause2694 obligatory “wow it’s so easy to build a computer just watch Linus tech tips”
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a hotline I can call?
@gaunterodimm3606
@gaunterodimm3606 2 жыл бұрын
I think ASUS is doing something very technologically advanced with this case. *Air flow by quantum tunneling.*
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the next big step in case design.
@xtremezone987
@xtremezone987 2 жыл бұрын
Ant-man style ;)
@ivo3598
@ivo3598 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff i am glad i went with Coolermater case H500 its awesome and tons of airflow with front panel MESH..and 2x200mm fans.. got great temps even with 5900X and 3080 its just on another level even those ports on front with case its horrible just a few ports..
@ivo3598
@ivo3598 2 жыл бұрын
those temps are so bad.. i stay under 65c even under load in games with my 5900X using 360mm Aio and GPU is Gaming X TRIO so i stay around 70c even with 3080
@obe22099
@obe22099 2 жыл бұрын
Unless the tech is a result of alien negative energy tech the constraints in airflow is choking the life out of that poor gpu blower. The blower motor will probably fail before the gpu. The gpu will meet the same end soon after.
@DarkBlockz
@DarkBlockz Жыл бұрын
I have the exact same pc and I recently changed the exhaust fan in it and it is so satisfying to hear a quiet pc for once!
@mayssm
@mayssm 2 жыл бұрын
Asus: "We like to keep our components snuggly and warm, completely sealed off from the outside world."
@TheDeadfast
@TheDeadfast 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly the single stick of RAM is actually a hi-tech heat management feature.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
It really seems like it.
@bitonic589
@bitonic589 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff.
@Zaphran-qv5jy
@Zaphran-qv5jy 2 жыл бұрын
I cackled at this. 🤣🤣
@First-Name_Last-Name
@First-Name_Last-Name 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if Im wrong, but is the Mobo an Asus Prime B550M-K? I saw that MB tech specification on Asus USA homepage and said it has a VRM heatsink, while the picture on the homepage does not show any VRM heatsinks at all. And also, IIRC the B550M-K fo not have ARGB headers, and does not support Aura Sync. Why does the brochure for G10DK said otherwise? Did Asus made a mistake bout the heatsinks and Aura or I'm mistaken?
@iliyacheresharov
@iliyacheresharov 2 жыл бұрын
well, i really think it`s probably that SOME Ryzen are benefiting a lot from dual channel. For my pool old 1600AF the change between 1x8 and 2x8 is no more than 5%
@JoeCensored
@JoeCensored 2 жыл бұрын
It's like no prebuild manufacturer understands how cooling and airflow works. They all seem to be shooting for some ideal form of a completely sealed box.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird especially considering that Asus knows how to make a decent case.
@GamerBoy705_yt
@GamerBoy705_yt 2 жыл бұрын
It's because people who buy prebuilts don't ever bother to open their computers and clean the dust. Additional airflow will only make this worse. And it's also less effort for Asus anyways.
@keonxd8918
@keonxd8918 2 жыл бұрын
Let's forget we that the 2021 version of the Legion 5 have a proper mesh front and top
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Prebuilts like these are marketed at young kids who couldn't care less about airflow, and don't care about specs either except the big main numbers (3070, 16gig ram, ryzen cpu, etc). They don't care that the whole rig is bottlenecked in 10 different places and probably losing 50% of its potential peak performance because of it. As long as they can get around 100fps in their main gaming resolution they'll be happy. So why would Asus bother shipping the prebuilt with an actually competent cpu cooler, or make a case that's just gonna let more dust in and require more maintenance that said young kids won't ever do? Why make a clean design, when edgy is what sells to their target audience? Why even brand it with "ROG" when there is not a single ROG product inside? It's all because they want to cut away as much cost as humanly possible, because their target audience wouldn't be able to desire the increase in performance anyways. Why charge more for better solutions, when customer can be satisfied with less. It's pure and simple business. Asus knows how to make the best GPU solutions on the market, yet they ship it with this barebones 3070 that is barely any better than stock. They don't even use their own power supply which they're so proud of. The only thing worthy of their name is probably the motherboard, because they actually build it from the ground up and thus can afford to offer a decent solution.
@louiesatterwhite3885
@louiesatterwhite3885 2 жыл бұрын
@@Real_MisterSir Your patronizing aside, most machines have bottlenecks of all sorts in them. By nature of tech its impossible for everything to 100% utilize everything else to its fullest. Like how not even modern ssds can saturate a pcie 3 bandwidth.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking at one these. This was very helpful. Good hands on and honest review 👍
@petergustavsson2951
@petergustavsson2951 2 жыл бұрын
You managed to get good sponsors, making me not to fast forward. Great job, also you videos are awsome. Keep up the good work.
@FlowMichael
@FlowMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dawid! I just finished building my first pc and I want to say thanks. I got your channel recommended to me one day and that was what started my interest in pcs. Thanks!
@domdinhh9772
@domdinhh9772 2 жыл бұрын
What was ur budget for ur first pc
@martinbrennan4017
@martinbrennan4017 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats man
@FlowMichael
@FlowMichael 2 жыл бұрын
@@domdinhh9772 abt 1300 us.
@ivorwilson8244
@ivorwilson8244 2 жыл бұрын
What gpu did u get because they are so expense at the moment
@tyleyden8695
@tyleyden8695 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome 🍻
@Graphics_Card
@Graphics_Card 2 жыл бұрын
Asus prebuilts is a type of prebuilt that stands for: *Aesthetics over performance.* they have a pretty case, but then you have all these non Asus rog parts inside!
@samgoff5289
@samgoff5289 2 жыл бұрын
You think the case looks good? idk man, i feel like their products are made to appeal to young kids who like gamer stuff. i hate it
@Graphics_Card
@Graphics_Card 2 жыл бұрын
@@samgoff5289 that’s the point. You have this sick case, but then you have beefy parts inside
@terraincognita2012
@terraincognita2012 2 жыл бұрын
Case is ugly too, though...
@Psyberify
@Psyberify 2 жыл бұрын
The entire design team for that case needs to be fired. And the person who signed off on it actually being sold.
@coreyhickman9082
@coreyhickman9082 2 жыл бұрын
you need to spend more money like to see him review the ga 35 sure the case is trash but easy swap lol
@Jaywoody21
@Jaywoody21 2 жыл бұрын
The prebuilts have terrible airflow but i was able to snag a prebuilt with a TUF FHR 3080 and i7 11700kf inside for 2100$. Transfered everything into a meshify 2 case, installed a fuma 2 cooler, and now it's a cool and silent powerful rig
@antoinecarazzato2202
@antoinecarazzato2202 2 жыл бұрын
Did you keep the same mobo ?
@Jaywoody21
@Jaywoody21 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinecarazzato2202 yeah, it's a strix b560 G matx board
@brandonclarke8319
@brandonclarke8319 2 жыл бұрын
"Light bondage action" You kill me bro. You are one of a kind and thats what keeps me coming back. Thank you.
@devrandvar
@devrandvar 2 жыл бұрын
Dawid in Best Buy browsing prebuilt PC section: "this PC looks like a disgusting piece of crap!" Best buy employee: "Sir do you need help finding something?" Dawid "No this is just what I was looking for!!" Best buy employee: "But didn't you just say that it looks disgusting" Dawid "Yes its perfect" Best buy employee: "............"
@ranadeeplaskar6042
@ranadeeplaskar6042 2 жыл бұрын
Employee doesn’t know what is required for a prebuilt PC roast video LoL 😂
@anonymouspokemon4623
@anonymouspokemon4623 2 жыл бұрын
My goal is beyond your understanding
@Micecheese
@Micecheese 2 жыл бұрын
you do not understand where im going with thic pc...
@mattparker9726
@mattparker9726 2 жыл бұрын
from the looks of it, this is basically a reskin of the office PCs they sell, with a GPU stuck in it.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
It does feel a lot like that.
@mattparker9726
@mattparker9726 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff so I am curious how much opening up those fake vents in the front with a Dremel will do to practical airflow in the system, like how good would it be if it came from the factory like that?
@Neptune695
@Neptune695 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattparker9726or keep the side panel off
@ranadeeplaskar6042
@ranadeeplaskar6042 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neptune695 well then I guess the cooler is to blame
@tahsin28
@tahsin28 2 жыл бұрын
Daummm sir u really solved the riddle. smart.
@teamtechworked8217
@teamtechworked8217 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see your channel continues to grow. Dawid you deserve it. I have been subbed since you had like 10k subs and you seem like a really genuine geek. Just like most of us gamers. Congrats and I hope to see you at 1 million subs by the end of 2022.
@wizdude
@wizdude 2 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see if it were possible to “remove” the front facier part of the case (or even unscrew/pop it out and just place it slightly to the side) and see how the thermals change. Would this be a better case if it simply had actual holes in the front?
@TheZodiakSkiller
@TheZodiakSkiller 2 жыл бұрын
Literally made it in less than a minute. God damn love this man, especially since the "Runs like a kid with polio" joke. Next time I'll make it in the first second.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@bitonic589
@bitonic589 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff hi
@archgirl
@archgirl 2 жыл бұрын
It was “the cooler equivalent of thumbing in a softy” for me. Just about choked on my own breath, I laughed so hard.
@TheSomeren
@TheSomeren 2 жыл бұрын
You should cut open the "vents" to see how much it helps the cooling
@bullzebub
@bullzebub 2 жыл бұрын
or just remove the front. its just clipped in place :-)
@ssenrak8117
@ssenrak8117 2 жыл бұрын
I really wanna see that video !
@MrR2185
@MrR2185 2 жыл бұрын
Use a dremel tool and cut some openings and zip tie a 120mm fan to the front wall inside the case and it would be a night and day difference. I would do it if I had this PC.
@jea446
@jea446 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrR2185 thats exactly what i did with mine few weeks ago,not as clean though, just drilled few holes in the front panel and zip tied the fan :D temps went down about 15c on average across the board, can recommend
@cesarpalmos8235
@cesarpalmos8235 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...but for the people who buy this for $2k, it should have that already done from factory...its sad because it looks like you can fit at least two 120mm fans
@Vile0387
@Vile0387 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an Asus ROG G20CB back in December 2014. The pc was fine for my needs (Premiere, Lightroom, and slight gaming). Thr GPU gave out this February though but since that pre built is all self proprietary, I can only use reference cards of certain size.
@silentkayak
@silentkayak 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an ASUS ROG laptop 7 years ago and it was fantastic. Well, it wasn't really a laptop; it was a portable desktop replacement (17 inch screen., haha.) I still have fond memories of it.
@d3fct
@d3fct 2 жыл бұрын
"Get to your door undamaged" UPS Man: Challenge accepted!
@matcam89
@matcam89 2 жыл бұрын
Every case I've ever ordered delivered to my house has come damaged, finally had it shipped to a Best Buy and it was fine
@startedtech
@startedtech 2 жыл бұрын
3:10 I like how my budget ASUS Tuf B450 board has USB-C but this thing doesn't lol
@LastSecBloomer
@LastSecBloomer 2 жыл бұрын
Motherboard is the Asus PRIME B550M-K , their bottom of the barrel B550 board...
@gamtax
@gamtax 2 жыл бұрын
@@LastSecBloomer I had Asus Prime B350M-A before. My 3700X performed pretty well even the VRM had no heatsink.
@HenryOfGnarlia
@HenryOfGnarlia 2 жыл бұрын
No joke, the mobo in these is just garbage.
@ogrejd
@ogrejd Жыл бұрын
Seeing all these cases in your videos without any sort of front ventilation makes me appreciate my ancient Antec Three Hundred (bought in 2012 for CA$57.48 after shipping) all the more. 'Tis a heavy beast, but I'll be keeping it until the front IO wears out and I have no choice but to get another case. :)
@rc7016
@rc7016 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an Asus Strix pre-built earlier this year, one of the top models with an RTX 3080, 11700KF and an actual ATX motherboard. I literally only kept the motherboard, CPU and GPU and bought everything else. One big big issue is the bios on the motherboard. Even though the board is a bog stock Asus Z490-F board, it has a proprietary bios that has not been updated since last year. As such features like resizable bar cannot be made to work (Even though it's listed in the bios). I'm probably going to have to swap out the board as well. And on a side note they put a bead of glue in the USB 3.0 port on the board, when I tried to remove the header, it stripped the USB 3.0 cable apart. I can't use the header in the new case without perhaps destroying the port entirely. Crazy things we do to get a decent GPU. Power supply was a great wall and the MSATA drive was a bottom of the line Intel. single stick of no name RAM.
@mynameisray
@mynameisray 2 жыл бұрын
Which is odd because ASUS makes amazing components..
@devilmikey00
@devilmikey00 2 жыл бұрын
Good laptops as well. Well, except their TUF branded ones which are awful but the rest are pretty good ;p
@skiez7430
@skiez7430 2 жыл бұрын
i love how most billionaire companies cant make a good prebuild but can make good components
@Psyberify
@Psyberify 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know who decided that case should even be sold, because that’s ridiculous.
@limank__
@limank__ 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they dont put them in their pre-builts 😭
@MikhaelAhava
@MikhaelAhava 2 жыл бұрын
I always wonder who’s in charge of the product and sale team? They know gamers are gonna be nit picky and will want the best thermals, dual channel ram, and a clean OS installation.
@MarshallRawR
@MarshallRawR 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously though, thank you for buying all these systems. It's a lot of money and time, it's incredible how fast we're going through different systems too. Loving these videos.
@willfarren
@willfarren Жыл бұрын
I always watch your ads because they’re just as entertaining as the rest of the video
@advaith3759
@advaith3759 Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and safe to say im already addicted to it.
@stuartlittle4433
@stuartlittle4433 2 жыл бұрын
Dawid, always a pleasure watching your videos, they are informative with a blend of class and humour that no other tech reviewer has. Well done good sir!
@user-vo3ps2oz7h
@user-vo3ps2oz7h 2 жыл бұрын
Will this even get a “better than dell” award
@jacksfather
@jacksfather 2 жыл бұрын
its CLEARLY better than Dell.
@Chakeis
@Chakeis 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm the Corsair 5000D Airflow is a great case! I used it for my new build :)
@Gojira_Wins
@Gojira_Wins 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased an ASUS G512LW laptop about 6 months ago and it came with an RTX 2070 and an i7-10870H cpu. The RAM they stuck in it was 16GB of 3200mhz but it turned out to be dual stick 8GB Samsung sticks. Probably the highest quality they could go with it. The SSD they used for the 500GB storage was actually Western Digital. The GPU never gets hotter than 86c and the CPU stays around 70c but for a laptop, that's to be expected. I'm more than happy with the Laptop I bought, but I can't say the same for this pre-built. Their laptop quality seems to far surpass their desktops when it should be the other way around.
@danielconforti3501
@danielconforti3501 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a follow up where you cut slits in the front panel where “ASUS’ marketing intended them to be.” Honestly you could even do it as a #short.
@blze0018
@blze0018 2 жыл бұрын
2:36 They're just using the same 4th dimensional tesseract technology that Thermatake used on their Tower 100!
@marcindrewek3798
@marcindrewek3798 2 жыл бұрын
I bought same GL10CS with 1660ti, intel i5 9400f and 16gb (dual stick, at least) little over year ago for 840USD. Fair price, as I'm a casual user, but my question is - what would you recommend to upgrade in this setup? Case, CPU cooling?
@TheTinyTimmyTimTim
@TheTinyTimmyTimTim 10 ай бұрын
I maintain that first asus ROG strix prebuilt is a solid buy if you get some Noctua fans + a heat sink to fix the thermals. It served me flawlessly for years and I bought it during the GPU scalp era so a 5800x + 3070 for 1600ish was a steal at the time. Soft spot in my heart for it.
@thedandyp
@thedandyp 2 жыл бұрын
We've gotta get a video of you swapping this into a standard case, upgrading the cpu cooler, and leaving that 2nd stick of ram in!
@danbuckley1240
@danbuckley1240 2 жыл бұрын
I know it seems small but a 3/16" panel gap multiplied by the perimeter of the case adds up pretty quickly. You would be surprised.
@ElHeffay1974
@ElHeffay1974 Жыл бұрын
I think putting everything into a new case is probably the best thing. There you go - an episode on moving the contents to a new case and see what the performance is like with proper airflow and coolers in place.
@sockswastakentwice
@sockswastakentwice Жыл бұрын
whats a good case for it?
@brianbillings6518
@brianbillings6518 Жыл бұрын
@@sockswastakentwice I need to know
@sockswastakentwice
@sockswastakentwice Жыл бұрын
@@brianbillings6518 same, i think im just getting a basic white case on amazon that has good reviews, im pretty sure all my parts and stuff will fit if not ill just return the case and get another
@cluberti
@cluberti Жыл бұрын
@@sockswastakentwice Probably anything that has airflow. Would be hysterical to see it in something like a Fractal Torrent or a Corsair 4000/5000D ;)
@sockswastakentwice
@sockswastakentwice Жыл бұрын
@@cluberti i got a corsair icue 4000x rgb, it worked out lool
@stoneguard
@stoneguard 2 жыл бұрын
So basically sounds like if you drill some holes in the front panel (or just pull it off), replace the cooler, and put in a matched set of RAM vs a single stick you've got an actual decent prebuilt. Good to know!
@kriskrisminer
@kriskrisminer Жыл бұрын
I guess, and the fact that it's easley upgradeable makes it even better
@SmokeyVlogs
@SmokeyVlogs Жыл бұрын
men love holes
@solaceinrage
@solaceinrage 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how actual airflow was, but they had the only prebuilt I ever actually wanted some years back. When you were gaming these vents would open on the side to increase airflow. It had a secret drive that didn't show up until you used an RFID bracelet to identify yourself and unlock it. It is like they poured all their creativity into that last big hurrah and then stopped trying.
@timemast3r
@timemast3r Жыл бұрын
That sounds so sick. Did you ever find out what prebuilt it was? I really won’t to see some videos on it
@solaceinrage
@solaceinrage Жыл бұрын
@@timemast3r ROG Tytan CG8890, it came out in like 2012, but is still just nuts to look at.
@Castigar48
@Castigar48 5 ай бұрын
yeah i just looke dit up. the 13 year old in me wants it more than fresh oxygen
@ep1cstalk3rc0v3rs
@ep1cstalk3rc0v3rs 2 жыл бұрын
"This cooler equivalent of a damp handshake" I fucking love your humor.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a take where you take this prebuilt and do whatever you must, in order to optimize it to its full potential. I'm talking; - Get proper ram - Install a real cpu cooler - modify the case for airflow - install additional cooling fans in the case accordingly Basically do everything you wish that the prebuild would have shipped with from the store, and then do a summary of the changes you've made, and perhaps the associated cost too, just to see how much has been cut out by the "Asus marketing budget" for this pc.
@wellaname221
@wellaname221 2 жыл бұрын
the probleme is for me IF you have to buy ANYTHING else after you bought the prebuilt. means that the prebuilt was trash, and you should have made a custom pc from the start.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellaname221 Yea that's exactly the point; to highlight exactly how much the average prebuilts are skimping out on and how compromising their offers truly are, when compared to an actually decently put together rig (with same core hardware, just built with common sense).
@wellaname221
@wellaname221 2 жыл бұрын
@@Real_MisterSir yup i see your take. honestly i stopped watching this youtuber the moment i have seen one of his prebuilt Test where the pc couldn't even Run a game 1 hours straight without 7 crashs" his words" , and in his conclusion he described the pc as " OKEY " when he should advise people to Avoid it even if it was the last pc on earth. his reviews are Shady AT best.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 2 жыл бұрын
@@wellaname221 Damn.. I haven't seen that one. I personally wouldn't even feel comfortable giving a rating at all to a product that fails at such core tasks as running a game. That is something a pc just needs to do without question or hickups.
@Qcfranky89
@Qcfranky89 2 жыл бұрын
I have this prebuilt since September 2020, (I7 9700k, rtx 2060. but I realized that the cooler is exactly the same you show at 15:03 ! Temeperature almost never exceeded 80c and replace the ram with a 32gb double channelled.
@AGSizzler
@AGSizzler 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so the day finally came where Dawid reviewed the prebuilt that I own and I can’t believe ASUS actually went backwards! I bought mine last year at $1400 with the same Ryzen 7 3700X, but with an RTX 2070 Super, and it has two advantages over the one in this review, which are that mine came with dual channel RAM out of the box, and that mine came with a Great Wall 80 plus Gold PSU instead. I also don’t recall ever seeing my cpu temps go that high in a game. They learned nothing from last year and in fact went the wrong direction! This crappy prebuilt debacle will never end!
@k4589
@k4589 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the same computer except I've got GTX 1660 TI card
@davelopan249
@davelopan249 2 жыл бұрын
I've also got this prebuilt. Mine too came with dual channel memory. And a much better CPU cooler than the one seen in this video. Odd how there doesn't seem to be much consistency with these builds. Cheers 😊
@Rxcdleyt
@Rxcdleyt 2 жыл бұрын
Should I buy this pc?
@are3287
@are3287 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rxcdleyt Unless you dont know what you're doing or live in a country that has extra bad shortages, you're better off building your own system. The extra 200$ that you gotta pay for a gpu isnt too big of a deal compared to paying the same extra for a prebuilt and ending up with a prebuilt.
@michaelwalker7004
@michaelwalker7004 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this a couple months ago and it’s not to bad for what kind of gaming I wanted, and same mine did come with dual channel ram. I just want to upgrade it lightly and I’ll be happy
@MrR2185
@MrR2185 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been so easy for Asus to make this thing amazing. Poke some vents in the front, add a basic non-rgb fan(or two!) to the front to pull in some air and dual channel RAM for the Ryzen CPU. This thing would be king of the pre-builts! So simple! ....but nope, aesthetics win over function, yet again.
@obe22099
@obe22099 2 жыл бұрын
I have experience with super heating electric enclosures to melt plastics and this setup would be perfect for 3d printing high melting temperature compasite materials also frying, baking, boiling, bbqing edible materials.
@jonathanchung7209
@jonathanchung7209 2 жыл бұрын
You are saving me time and money Dawid! Thank you!
@harshbarj
@harshbarj 2 жыл бұрын
Chicony actually makes solid PSUs. You are correct, they mostly make brick style supplies, but do have a small selection of desktop units. I have never had an issue with any of them. I'd not call them high end, but more than adequate for most tasks.
@MariosGRK
@MariosGRK 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video where you upgrade the case and cpu cooling and see how much it improves the system and whether it’s worth buying this OEM and upgrading it yourself
@alanmcclung9659
@alanmcclung9659 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly what I was planning on doing. Seems to be a pretty easy upgrade
@samyisafanoffred
@samyisafanoffred 2 жыл бұрын
Funny story. I actually bought one of these prebuilds that had an RTX 3080 TUF, i7 11700kf. I stuck it in a new case with a liquid cooler and (2) 3600 MHz 16 GB sticks of ram. The thing runs crazy nice. Best part about it was I only paid 2K for the prebuild
@curtismcpherson4823
@curtismcpherson4823 2 жыл бұрын
@@samyisafanoffred I just got the cooler master case I have a asus GeForce rtx 3060 ryzen 5 3600x I have the stock motherboard but it has no rgb headers or anything what did you connect your liquid cooler to I have the 2 fan headers but I’m going to get a spittler of amazon but I want a cpu liquid cooler but don’t know what one has no rgb header cause I don’t have one
@MajesticSam
@MajesticSam 2 жыл бұрын
@@samyisafanoffred so your telling me that it's worth getting the asus rog at 1,200 dollars and then upgrading it afterwards?? Or is it better to get a 1,500 dollar prebuilt pc with everything made to be best quality
@mikerzisu9508
@mikerzisu9508 2 жыл бұрын
@@MajesticSam the best move is to never, ever, buy a pre-built. Build your own
@Sean-wv2xt
@Sean-wv2xt 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a follow up video where you drilled lots of holes in the front to give it air flow and replace the CPU cooler with a nice be quiet! 250W TDP Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU Cooler or something good and then replace that crappy fan in the back to make the case silent. I would love to see a pre-built pc turned into a great pc for under $200!
@mattketner7597
@mattketner7597 2 жыл бұрын
Asus and MSI are hands down my favorite Motherboard manufacturers because of their easy to use BIOS Settings & Overclocking.
@darkscept3r293
@darkscept3r293 2 жыл бұрын
Dawid: Buys another ROG computer Viewers:ah shit here we go again
@Viking8888
@Viking8888 2 жыл бұрын
4:05 - The cooler equivalent of a Damp handshake? Hilarious!
@luigi92124
@luigi92124 2 жыл бұрын
I have ASUS ROG Board with the Armoury Crate installed, I haven't any issues. I am happy with this program.
@billyvang6463
@billyvang6463 2 жыл бұрын
You should do Cosair pre-builds, I've always wanted to see those pre-builds
@lucasmayo8781
@lucasmayo8781 2 жыл бұрын
“Soft luscious packing foam” is my cover bands name
@TechHug
@TechHug 2 жыл бұрын
You need to get GN Steve to look at this. This needs more roasting.
@MarkZickefoose
@MarkZickefoose 2 жыл бұрын
If you want it roasted, just skip the middle man and put a Gigabyte power supply in it.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Haha!!
@sebastianirala7714
@sebastianirala7714 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkZickefoose lmao
@TheXlen
@TheXlen 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkZickefoose the funny thing is this PSU probably can withstand higher loads than the Gigabyte's 850W unit lol
@shabazz18
@shabazz18 2 жыл бұрын
These are actually not bad computers. Just install a second 90mm fan in the bottom front for intake. The intake is at the bottom of the front panel. G10DK had dual channel ram as well with it's 3060. I have one stock with extra fan. And one recased with a ton of fans. You can't buy the parts for $1k which is what Walmart was selling the G10DK for. Note the gap at the bottom front of this case...
@Matrix_The_One
@Matrix_The_One 5 ай бұрын
I have this PC as well. With a few upgrades, it can be pretty good although the thermals are rather sketchy. I do have a spare 90mm fan, but does the motherboard have a third fan header?
@shabazz18
@shabazz18 5 ай бұрын
@@Matrix_The_One thermals were more than acceptable with the clear side panel which as you know is vented all the way around, and additional front intake fan. In fact I built a spare parts rig in this case and resold with no complaints. Still have one in the parts bin I might use for an emulator box.
@toadiscoil
@toadiscoil 2 жыл бұрын
You should Dremel the front of the case to make that airflow vent usable hehe. How about an AIO? I think CPU cooling is probably one consistent issue with pre-builts. Of course single channel RAM is another as you have consistently shown. I dig this video 👍
@jonibravo9004
@jonibravo9004 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that this video is all about shiting on a rog prebuilt paid by corsair 😂
@johnc6299
@johnc6299 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dawid, I think Rog have made a same prebuilt system out of the cool Strix case you used for your first video. I bought a i7-10700kf with 2070s on that cool Strix case(The one with more ventilation ) , it does comes with a really decent Strix mother board and a “Actual cooler ” that they show on the image. Oh yes, It also comes with 2*8gb 3200 ram too. So I think the problem of the Strix prebuilt is they have different things on the Amd & Intel based version(maybe because intel version cost 100$ more?). Any way, I really enjoyed your video of testing those prebuilt.
@cherrytofu8939
@cherrytofu8939 2 жыл бұрын
In my own experience I had an ROG GR8 II prebuilt for years and it was always teetering on overheating/was thermal throttling both on CPU and GPU under gaming load. I delidded the processor and added liquid metal with kryonaut on both CPU and GPU but it only resulted in less thermal throttling, it couldn't be properly saved. It came with bloatware, but as far as I can tell it was not stubborn to remove. It was always loud even on idle due to a really shitty fan (even when forcing the fan to the lowest setting it was still annoyingly loud). The system made my ears ring from time to time and I'm not speaking figuratively. The RAM was really slow, 2133mhz on some loose timing, seems like as long as they got 16gbs of it they figured no one would care. Especially considering the price of the system it is outrageous and I'd be insane to give it more than 1/10. Bad experience, bad price to performance.
@richardsandson
@richardsandson 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the guts transplanted into a case with great air flow. Maybe with a better cpu cooler and see the difference. Lovely analogies as ever Dawid.
@shabazz18
@shabazz18 2 жыл бұрын
I did this. Water cooled CPU and 6 fans total (2 in the radiator) currently. Works great.
@bootylumps3457
@bootylumps3457 2 жыл бұрын
@@shabazz18 how do i transfer everything to another case?
@shabazz18
@shabazz18 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootylumps3457 just swap over the parts to any M-ATX or bigger case. Preferably an airflow model.
@bootylumps3457
@bootylumps3457 2 жыл бұрын
@@shabazz18 hey bro i did it. Transferred it to another case. Way better airflow has 5 fans instead of the small case with only 2. STRESSFUL THO.
@bootylumps3457
@bootylumps3457 2 жыл бұрын
@@shabazz18 my CPU stays kinda hot tho should i replace cpu fan? i just bought the whole computer less than a week ago then transferred cases yesterday.
@drakkenstien4315
@drakkenstien4315 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison between that case and a half-decent 50$ case with a stock Ryzen cooler.
@Skater11051
@Skater11051 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have the other model you reviewed the last time you reviewed the ROG pre build. It’s not bad the 2070 super isn’t bad I get about 145 FPS on apex in 1440p on high settings. Warzone I get like 110-93 FPS
@oblivion9259
@oblivion9259 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought this PC it's actually amazing and not as loud as you think it would be
@ImJuustPro
@ImJuustPro 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a cheap version of that gaming system. I had the older model (cl12cm) from 2018 with a 8700k and a 1080. It didn’t perform bad as it was also water cooled and it was a pretty solid starting build. I still use it and changed the graphics card to a 3070 Ti, and got myself a new case and cpu cooler. Overall was not a bad build even tho the motherboard has some issues (missing standard usb 3.1 header for standard front I/O (as it’s front I/O was proprietary), the back of the motherboard is amazing it has 8 USB ports (2x 2.0, 4x3.1, 2x3.0), full audio card, Ethernet. Once you get rid of the bloat ware u are good to go! (Bios not standard so that’s a big downside)
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
That's great! It sounds like it was a good starting point for you. Glad to hear it worked out for you. 👍
@hman6159
@hman6159 2 жыл бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I have one of these asus prebuilt ones, “ASUS - ROG Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i7-11700F - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 - 1TB HDD + 512GB SSD” It runs cool and perfectly fine. What desktop prebuilt from asus are you using in this video?
@RandomRider570
@RandomRider570 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the single channel RAM at the end, so the best prebuilt PC has a single stick of RAM lol.
@mikakorhonen5715
@mikakorhonen5715 2 жыл бұрын
We need pretty big AMD V-cache to go without RAM.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, I did mention it extensively throughout the video. Hopefully, if Asus watches the video they don't just watch the conclusion. 😅
@FatherOfStupidMeow
@FatherOfStupidMeow 2 жыл бұрын
Dawid, where do you get those awesome music traks from? BTW, love the vid.
@JFHeroux
@JFHeroux 2 жыл бұрын
I was left disappointed that you didn't test the system with a decent air cooler and/or liquid cooler (why not both?) and show how much this would have helped (at least on the noise side of things). Otherwise, very interesting to watch.
@ebayerr
@ebayerr 2 жыл бұрын
JFHeroux : I had the same thoughts.
@pascaldifolco4611
@pascaldifolco4611 2 жыл бұрын
Dawid actually makes you want to buy a Corsair case ! But not any prebuilt, after HP Bad Omen we now have Asus Oven 🤣
@auslad
@auslad 2 жыл бұрын
Love tuning into your stuff, always funny, informative, well produced and above all entertaining. Great job Dawid, keep up the great work.
@skorpysk
@skorpysk 7 ай бұрын
chicony used to mainly make keyboard back in the day i would know, i'm still using their keyboard from 1998 glad to see logo didn't change
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 2 жыл бұрын
Armoury Crate is mostly for laptops, as it's how you adjust the fan modes, RGB keyboard and disable the Windows and other keys.
@user-sg5vb7ou9i
@user-sg5vb7ou9i 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see you put all those components in that older case and see what happens to the thermals. Perhaps change the cooler and dual ram as well. Bet that would do this system wonders. Moral of the story, if you’re building and have money, go ROG. If you’re buying a prebuilt stay well aware as they don’t use ROG components in the pre built anyway
@thirdycandare4308
@thirdycandare4308 2 жыл бұрын
Yoo smooth transition to the sponsor segment hahha
@bitonic589
@bitonic589 2 жыл бұрын
I use an advanced sponsor ad skip extension
@tacc8227
@tacc8227 Жыл бұрын
so this video is about air performance rather than actual computation/gpu performance?.. glad you saved me time..
@00SNIVY00
@00SNIVY00 2 жыл бұрын
Give it some front panel airflow and maybe another fan and it's do much better, wouldn't it? So many improvements that shouldn't cost too much extra on their part and you'd get a significantly better system.
@fracturedlife1393
@fracturedlife1393 2 жыл бұрын
Corsair: "Do a case ad?" Dawid: "Can I say up the butt?" Corsair: "Oh Go On. Suits you sir."
@twistednemo
@twistednemo 2 жыл бұрын
Dawid: "What about bondage jokes?" Corsair: "Our hands are tied there."
@dhoelath6648
@dhoelath6648 2 жыл бұрын
In the meantime, NVidia recommends a 650W PSU for the 3070 which makes me wonder how that 500W one will handle the PC over time.
@shannonrhoads7099
@shannonrhoads7099 2 жыл бұрын
The pc? Just fine. However, a seperate dedicated arc reactor is needed for the GPU.
@are3287
@are3287 2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely use a 500W PSU with a 3070 unless you have a super high end cpu and 17 rgb fans in there I guess, picking a reputable brand is far more important than having extra headroom in the wattage.
@keancv
@keancv 2 жыл бұрын
Dhoelath as a matter of urgency any owner should swap out the power suply as soon as possible. Aside from safety I'd believe that under powering is a hot issue.
@scalamasterelectros3204
@scalamasterelectros3204 2 жыл бұрын
@@are3287 bro 500 wats is not enoth for a rtx 3070 that is a one way tiket to dead pc land
@sodvar5047
@sodvar5047 Жыл бұрын
NVidia overshoots a little bit on the PSU recommendation because they can't predict whether the consumer will go for a super cheap no-name one or a 80+ platinum, so they might as well guarantee some headroom. However, 500W for a 3070 really is too low for comfort.
@bobbywilliams9446
@bobbywilliams9446 2 жыл бұрын
Case swap video would be cool I want to see how much it would change if you swap it and give it more airflow
@rafgp
@rafgp 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so baffling how Asus manages to make some of the best individual PC parts, yet when it comes to making full systems (both desktops and laptops) they always fuck it up big time in one way or another. (Had severe thermal throttling on my mid-spec zephyrus G14 (even at 100% fan speed) that was causing actual slowdown, not just stutters and framedrops.)
@sgt.skibby570
@sgt.skibby570 2 жыл бұрын
look at other reviews. this guy is just a snob. if i wanna spend 1000$ on a prebuilt this thing rocks. just get the 1660 ti not the super. airflow is not bad. and ive looked at tems of this in test and they stay about 60. js this dude got paid to rip on this system.
@rafgp
@rafgp 2 жыл бұрын
@@sgt.skibby570 Just because someone else doesn’t like something you do like doesn’t mean they got paid to rip on the system. If you like said system then more power to you, but claiming someone got paid to rip on something just because you disagree with their opinion is childish.
@ComradeNags
@ComradeNags 2 жыл бұрын
Ya know, with the thermal increase associated with the dual channel ram, I wonder if that single stick was a design choice to not cook your internals.
@louiesatterwhite3885
@louiesatterwhite3885 2 жыл бұрын
Would be contradictory to the awful thermals everywhere else
@sreif78
@sreif78 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know Corsair won't shame my fetish. Why do most OEM builds insist on restricting, at the least, rear air flow?
@twistednemo
@twistednemo 2 жыл бұрын
Standardization?
@jetflicks84
@jetflicks84 2 жыл бұрын
1:03 "more than enough cable straps for some light bondage action" 🤣
@williambook237
@williambook237 2 жыл бұрын
I just got the 2,500 $ tower and its amazing i use it with my 120$ airpods and my 230$ 32 inch hp display, it works perfectly with both devices
@ruthlessadmin
@ruthlessadmin 2 жыл бұрын
A few months before this, I built the same specs only with 64gb dual channel RAM and 2x2tb NVMe SSDs for $1600...the only thing I'm missing is a new GPU (stuck with my old 1060 due to shortage prices). ASUS could have easily stuck in a dual channel kit and a nice CPU cooler for roughly the same price & still turned a healthy profit, having made a better bang-for-buck gaming machine than I did. Shame. Could have at least added a couple case fans ffs.
@SirOwieiii
@SirOwieiii Жыл бұрын
oh crap i got this for christmas 💀
@dashdeception
@dashdeception Жыл бұрын
I got an Asus gaming PC back when the 970 was pretty new and it's still working great to this day I haven't had to do anything with it
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not too surprised that Asus just used one of their retail motherboards for the system. Which also explains why it so effortlessly runs with other RAM and does properly support XMP (Oh, and dual channel isn't just the same speed. It doubles the bandwith) And the CPU temp of 56°C in the BIOS? No wonder with 1.44v by default. I can hit the same temps with my old overclocked Core 2 under load for which that voltage is totally normal.
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