Why Does Utah HATE Being an Expansion Big 12 Team? From BYU to Kyle Whittingham's Crazy Comments

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Utah and Kyle Whittingham have earned a storied reputation in college football due to several key factors:
Consistent Success: Under Kyle Whittingham's leadership, Utah has consistently been a competitive force in college football. Whittingham has a proven track record of success, with numerous bowl appearances and conference championships during his tenure.
Developing Talent: Whittingham and his coaching staff are renowned for their ability to develop talent. Utah has produced numerous NFL players under Whittingham's guidance, demonstrating the program's ability to recruit and develop top-tier athletes.
Innovative Coaching: Whittingham is known for his innovative coaching strategies and schemes. He has a keen understanding of the game and is skilled at adapting his coaching approach to maximize his team's strengths and exploit opponents' weaknesses.
Culture of Excellence: Whittingham has fostered a culture of excellence within the Utah football program. Players are held to high standards both on and off the field, and there is a strong emphasis on discipline, work ethic, and teamwork.
Big Game Performances: Utah has a history of success in big games and high-stakes matchups. The program has earned notable victories over top-ranked opponents, showcasing its ability to compete at the highest level of college football.
Community Engagement: Whittingham and the Utah football program are actively involved in the community, earning respect and admiration beyond the football field. Their commitment to giving back and making a positive impact has helped to enhance the program's reputation and legacy.
Overall, the combination of consistent success, talent development, coaching innovation, a culture of excellence, big-game performances, and community engagement has contributed to Utah and Kyle Whittingham's storied status in college football. Their legacy is one of achievement, resilience, and a commitment to excellence in all aspects of the game.
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@shortsallyear8602 24 күн бұрын

This is an easy answer. Utah did want to follow BYU into the Big12. Simple

@cinematiccatastrophe8338 23 күн бұрын

Ute Fan here, very true, Let the games begin Swoop->🦅🏈🐆

@tamatoashiny 20 күн бұрын

No one who has been a Utah fan since 2011 gives two squirts of ass about your boring provo wannabes rofl!!

@domin8ss 18 күн бұрын

BYU should be thankful any P5 conference wanted them after a decade of horrible W-L records for a decade+ of independence. But, having grown up in the state of Utah one thing I know is the Mormon Church preaches thankfulness, but it's rarely practiced.

@cinematiccatastrophe8338 18 күн бұрын

@@domin8ss Well that was an oddly personal, get everything off your chest comment. I think Byu has done respectably well given everything. Several 10 win seasons with only one sub .500 season in the last 12 years (not including inaugural BXII year). BYU had been on the BXII's radar as one of their possible expansion teams since back during the last conference realignment, it just feels like Byu finally reeled in their promised and deserved promotion.

@domin8ss 18 күн бұрын

@cinematiccatastrophe8338 Tell us how you really feel with that oddly personal belief. What noteworthy program did BYU beat in that decade? They lost to Arkansas in 2022. The Razorbacks are the SEC's whipping boy in football annually. There's also losses to UAB and USF in 2021. BYU's schedule was consistently packed with cupcakes like Texas State, Idaho State, Georgia Southern, and bottom feeders of P5 programs. Yes, I include USC in that total because USC was bad in 2021. That was the year before Lincoln Riley was hired. BYU's last quality win was against Utah on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. BYU's first season in the Big 12 is a reflection of everything I just pointed out. They got reduced to mediocrity with their uppitiness and sulking over their rejection by the PAC-12. Start playing on Sundays and more conferences will take you seriously. Nobody forced BYU to leave the MWC. They did that on their own. Had they stuck with the MWC, they would've had a tougher schedule than they created as an independent. One of the best parts of the MWC was watching the G5 schools beat up on the PAC-10 prior to conference realignment. Remember, BYU only gets half revenue while in the Big 12. The 4 newest members get full revenue. BYU has a big hill to climb to become 1987 relevant again, so put your shoulder to the wheel.

@lastpme 24 күн бұрын

If they don’t want be in the Big 12 they could have declined the invitation.

@Patrick-sg7cm 24 күн бұрын

Utah was hoping to get a B1G invitation.

@vinyllpreviews9462 24 күн бұрын

@@Patrick-sg7cmthey should embrace the Big XII because basically were all in the same boat. If the Big XII breaks up were all in the same spot as Washington St. and Oregon St. If Big didn't come calling this time, they're not going to next time. Big XII has the potential to be a great conference, it's wide open and a bunch of teams have the ability to rise up and be a powerhouse in this conference.

@jeffmorgan9337 24 күн бұрын

Better get settled in ,because there's only 4 to 6 spots in the next round. It's not going to be any of us . If any 1 can move up you better win way more than you lose .

@willpsone 24 күн бұрын

@@vinyllpreviews9462 Utah still has a shot if the Big Ten and SEC ultimately go up to 24 if/when the ACC breaks apart. The post Pac 12 expansions across the board were all kind of spur of the moment deal whereas the next/final move will be more orchestrated/well thought out.

@TheFranchiseCA 24 күн бұрын

@@willpsone If the Big Ten or SEC expand again after taking the top of the ACC, it will be one stealing the top half or two thirds of the other. After ND, FSU, UNC, and maybe Clemson, what additions would increase per school media payouts?

@Jonus_Grumby 24 күн бұрын

Utah is the new Texas. Fewer fans, less money, more wins, but more impressed with themselves than they should be. The Big 12 already has Baylor, we don't need someone else to hate.

@JJ-yx6jy 24 күн бұрын

LOL Utah is like the loser of an arranged marriage.

@matthewhuszarik4173 24 күн бұрын

Except Texas has a hundred maybe a thousand times more fans and as a result the revenue.

@devilfrawg4953 21 күн бұрын

LMFAO! At least Texas won a NY6 bowl within the last decade.

@domin8ss 18 күн бұрын

BYU is the next Baylor. Everybody will learn to hate them because of their religious uppitiness. Utah as a whole has a nose in the air problem. BYU is the worst, but the whole state is like that. I grew up there, and I am Mormon. When I realized this issue and that I was included in this stigma, I started working on myself. I've lived all over this country and currently in Florida, aka Lower Alabama. I can't stand being around other Utahans, especially those with BYU affiliation. Utah is still a program on the rise, but it definitely needs to improve its branding and merchandising to Texas levels. It would help make the program more revenue and achieve more recognition. More revenue means better facilities, which will aid in recruitment, etc.

@Jonus_Grumby 18 күн бұрын

@@domin8ss Baylor has more than a snottiness issue. They covered up for a basketball player that shot his teammate, and the fans rallied around a coach that covered up rapes.

@howardsmith9342 17 күн бұрын

Utah has always had an inflated opinion of itself. They really believe they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, and are insufferable to be around when they win. I look forward to more of the same in the B12, and I will be rooting every week for BYU and whoever the Yewts are playing.

@sirrobin4394 23 күн бұрын

No ute feels "lucky" to be in the Big 12. They either think they're the new rulers of the conference, or they are pouting in their safety spaces.

@kendalldean9612 25 күн бұрын

Everyone expects UT to win the B12. My prediction is they won't. Everyone will have their game with UT marked on their calendar. If Cam goes down, so goes the UT season.

@CarlaJenkinsTV 24 күн бұрын

Rising is their single point of failure. We've seen that last year.

@brentw0681 24 күн бұрын

Utah has legit backup QBs now.

@michaelpeck1346 23 күн бұрын

I’m a Utah fan and I’m excited and grateful we’re in the b12. I think most of us are.

@JT-rx1eo 16 күн бұрын

😂

@aaronsmith2433 15 күн бұрын

I'm a BYU fan/alum and I can honestly say having Utah in the conference is a big boost to credibility and having the Holy War Rivalry on an annual basis is GREAT for both the conference and college football in general.

@schweber10 24 күн бұрын

They definitely feel jilted and definitely do not want to be in a conference with BYU. Glad Drake stopped this dude as he tried to talk too fast past points he was attempted to make

@brentw0681 24 күн бұрын

We want to be in a conference with BYU, our rivals and we have a 9-1 record vs them last 10

@CougarFan827 24 күн бұрын

Well, welcome back to a level playing field, sister.

@frankmilitary 24 күн бұрын

Utah to Big 10? No way. No how. No chance.

@fecat93 24 күн бұрын

They're the flagship university for the state. Their football is good and they're going as a state. They're AAU. I think in the final 24-26 team B1G they will be there. Kansas is the only other current member of the conference that could make the transition to the B1G. With 6 "open" spots -- UT, KS, ND, UNC, VA, and FSU. With 8 spots I'm not sure who the final 2 will be.

@TheFranchiseCA 24 күн бұрын

@@fecat93 Why would the Big Ten add schools that don't increase per school media payouts? If the Big Ten expands again after the next round, it will be with SEC members.

@fecat93 24 күн бұрын

@@TheFranchiseCA SEC schools won't leave for the same money unless it is TAMU who wants to get away from Texas. After ND and probably FSU and Clemson there isn't another school that makes financial sense for either conference. That being said I think the B1G and SEC have to pick apart the Big XII and ACC of any meat, otherwise the Collegiate NFL won't be realized. This is like gym class when you pick the strongest players first, but eventually you need to pick the less skilled to fill out the team. You need to water down the Big XII and the ACC to the point they aren't recognizable as major conferences. Do I like this? No as I want to go back to 1993 conferences(Big 10 with 10 teams), but that ship has sailed.

@jadebarben8537 10 күн бұрын

I saw Utes fans comment all over online about how they hated joining the “Truck Stop 12” conference. Thank you JT for that clarification

@CarlaJenkinsTV 24 күн бұрын

6:28 I am glad that Locked on Utes admitted that Utah's Achilles heel is the Big 10 teams. They've lost to Ohio State and Penn State in consecutive Rose Bowls. That's who will be waiting for Utah if they get into the playoffs.

@fecat93 24 күн бұрын

They also lost to my Northwestern 'Cats in their last 2 appearances against them in 2018 and 2023.

@ericacottle3507 24 күн бұрын

But have beaten several others and Michigan 3 straight. Utah can compete with the B1G teams especially USC,UCLA,Oregon and Washington

@deathsavearcade3951 24 күн бұрын

Send em back to the pac 2

@danhauser3361 25 күн бұрын

Just settle down Utah and Kansas…who both think you are better and deserving more money …and recognition….time to be a big fish in a smaller pond….settle down…cut the ego and hubris…and remember Provo and Lawrence ..aren’t high on the Media list of top programs….suck it up and become more humble!!

@CarlaJenkinsTV 24 күн бұрын

Exactly. They should be somebody took them in. Beggars cannot be choosy.

@bumpygumpson 24 күн бұрын

I think both utah and byu fans would be offended you think utah is in Provo 😆

@danhauser3361 24 күн бұрын

@@bumpygumpson I am already over it….you guys must really hate each other…Salt Lake City and Provo …Salt and Pepper… I actually love you are in the B12…..but let’s cut back on the mine is bigger than yours stuff! On the field or the court..that is what counts!

@cinematiccatastrophe8338 23 күн бұрын

@@danhauser3361Utah is happy to be here ultimately, we have a few delusional fans and execs dragging their feet and boohooing everything. Utah is in the right place, I remember growing up and my friends and I all owning College football games and always moving Utah to the Big 12 (we were just some little guys in the Mountain West conf. back then) To us and most other fans at the time, the Big 12 was the only conf. that made the most sense to us. It is a full circle moment for my friend group to see the Utes actually make it here.

@jreidtastic 23 күн бұрын

I think that the more you talk, the more you try to dismantle the Big XII.

@johndurham6735 24 күн бұрын

Lol seriously though... Why the hell would the Big 10 or SEC ever want a program the likes of Utah? Winning the Pac12 12 twice isn't really saying much. The pac 12 was a crap conference.

@Mike-sp7zv 24 күн бұрын

Utah reminds me from a football philosophical perspective to Iowa and ND. Their brand is growing and they have a good history and would fit into the Pac12 portion of the B10 to help create the rose bowl conference

@Ravi-did-it 23 күн бұрын

That’s complete BS many of the top new B1G schools are pulled from the P12. Just making sh*t up at this point

@gordonscott8758 23 күн бұрын

Why? So they could have a better doormat than Vandy.

@DTS_I 15 күн бұрын

When the PAC finally became a legit conference in its final year Utah went 7-5 with losses to the top 3 teams in the PAC.

@savannahfan 24 күн бұрын

I think Utah is a great team, I also think they will be mid in the B12 Lots of great teams, Utah has to Prove the hype first

@carterdalby9011 24 күн бұрын

Because the mighty big 12 is as good as the previous pac 12 😂

@savannahfan 24 күн бұрын

@@carterdalby9011 it’s different It’s more blue collar and less flash, than the West Coast. Meaning more hard hitting, tough playing, grinding, wear you down kind of play. Will you lose to most B12 teams…? Probably not. But none of them are a easy win, and your depth will be sorely tested You guys were supposed to be awesome last season too until the injury’s started adding up It’s a long season in the B12. More travel, new opponents in new places, and that’s not even counting the extended season the new playoff format would add You guys look great on paper, but let’s see how you actually fare in your first season before crowning you “Kings of the Conference”

@vernonsheldon-witter1225 5 күн бұрын

I don't see any indication that Utah "hates" being in the Big 12. To the contrary, I think the Ute Fanbase has embraced it.

@Rick-wx4md 24 күн бұрын

When Utah wins a National championship, then they can pick and choose expansion choices all that they want to. Just win in the BIG12 1st. Come play with us. And best wishes.

@cinematiccatastrophe8338 23 күн бұрын

We did win a Co-Narional Championship in 2008-09 though, (In a 2017 UCF kind of way). The NCAA has officially recognized it as a claimable National Championship. I do think Utah is in the current perfect place for their skill pool though.

@Rick-wx4md 23 күн бұрын

@@cinematiccatastrophe8338 If Utah can be the Champ? Then so be it. I could live with that. Even though, I am a KSU fan.

@cinematiccatastrophe8338 23 күн бұрын

@@Rick-wx4md Utah is in the perfect place geographically, culturally, and talent wise for the BXII. Pay no mind to the idiots of our fanbase who fawn over their absurd B1G fantasy. We love it here and we are excited to compete.

@matthewhuszarik4173 24 күн бұрын

The Big 10 isn’t looking for the best teams they are looking for the teams who bring in the most money and that means TV revenue and TV markets. Utah is near the bottom of the barrel by those criteria they are lucky they got into the Big 12. Big 12 good? They have been stripped of all their most valuable assets. They will be lucky to get past the first round of the playoffs.

@JS-cu3mv 24 күн бұрын

None of the 4 corner schools wanted to be in the Big 12 lol it’s was their only options, all wanted to stay in the Pac-12 and would jump at the chance if the PAC reforms or the Big 10. The big 12 is a weak league and JV league compared to the Big 10 or SEC.

@Terannis 23 күн бұрын

As a ute fan I personally feel like thee feelings come from being frustrated the pac12 died. When we moved to the PAC we were respected, we felt like the new guy that no one cares about. So to build the program up and now being a program is real significance, not an elite or top tier but a good program. And now we are moving programs again and now power conferences are separated into the sec and big 10 and those left behind in the PAC 2, ACC, and Big 12. As a fan watching the program do so much right, winning games, making it to ny6 bowl games, upgrading their exposure, upgrading stadium and recruiting. We didn't do anything wrong and it feels like we are on the edge of slipping backwards. Of course there are toxic fans, but most of us are very polite and fun fans. My opinion is Utah being selected as the favorite to win the Big 12 is insulting to the hateful 8. Who is this new guy showing up that everyone says is super good? No way he wins l, he doesn't know how we do things. Utah will come in as the heel of the big 12. The big 12 has had Texas who everyone hates for a long time. And if Utah needs to be the new Texas because you want that person to hate no problem. The heel can be a fun position to be

@JT-rx1eo 16 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Alohanate2004 24 күн бұрын

Because they lost their California recruiting base and they know they will struggle to recruit the state of Texas.

@phillipolsen1262 24 күн бұрын

Utah has been recruiting very well in Texas for decades. Maybe look at something that has to do with Utah before spouting off.

@Alohanate2004 24 күн бұрын

@@phillipolsen1262 Touched a nerve I see. I did a quick check of the 2023 roster and Utah had 26 players from California and only 11 players from Texas. But what do I know.

@jmebkk 20 күн бұрын

@@Alohanate2004 Not much if you don't think that Utah can't keep recruiting from California!

@tamatoashiny 24 күн бұрын

In the PAC 12, we had really daunting and difficult schedules playing name brand schools year after year, and we were winning huge games. There is not a single team of the caliber and prestige of USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington in the truck stop conference. Even Arizona, Or St, Wash St, Cal, and Stanford and ASU when they were better, were way more interesting games. We don't look at our schedule next year with any fear or excitement. No one outside of your conference has ever heard of Kansas State, or Iowa State, there's a lot of 'who cares' level games. Most of the good ones are former PAC teams. You may not like our perspective, BIG 12, but that isn't our problem.

@stevemoserify 24 күн бұрын

You're proud of your perspective being a douchebag moron? 😂

@JJ-yx6jy 24 күн бұрын

Yeah, but there u are, all judgy and condescendingly dismissive to the conference that took you in, while gazing longingly at the schools who kicked you to the curb once the music stopped. You're Utah, and you should know your role.

@tarheel7406 23 күн бұрын

@@stevemoserify BIG12 fans and this channel way overvalue the attractiveness of games vs. its now core members. We hear and read this almost daily in the comments, on this channel, etc. Why is it offensive that UTAH would prefer its former PAC schedule over BIG12 teams?

@stevemoserify 23 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 not offensive, just stupid

@tarheel7406 23 күн бұрын

@@stevemoserify Why is it stupid that UTAH would prefer its former PAC schedule over BIG12 teams? That read as even more silly from a BIG12 perspective.

@DarthEradicus5908 19 күн бұрын

OMG how many fucking times are you guys going to beat this horse to death? Multiple things can be simultaneously true: We're sad the Pac-12 is dead, but we're happy we didn't get left behind by joining the Big 12. There are definitely fans who think we deserve to be in a better conference, or that we're just going to dominate in our first year in a new conference, blah, blah, blah...... Every fan base has their assholes. I'd like to see my team win the conference, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that it's a given. I wish this talk would stop because it does nothing but making every other team, and fanbase put a target on our backs. One thing is for certain at this point: Utah is going to get 110% from every team they play in conference this year. If I weren't a Utah fan and I was hearing all this Utah hype, I'd want to see them crushed into sand too, so I get why people hate us. Lastly, NOBODY knows what college football conferences are going to look like in a few years, the only constant has been change. So, all the talk about who should or shouldn't be in the Big 10, SEC, or whatever is completely pointless.

@JT-rx1eo 16 күн бұрын

😂

@_Doodle-bob 25 күн бұрын

Lol, because that’s the narrative you keep pushing and it gets you lots of clicks and views.

@tarheel7406 24 күн бұрын

The academically prestigious PAC "conference of champions" elevated UTAH, which appears to have been a model expansion. UTAH now finds itself in the lowest academic, least prestigious, and worst overall athletic P4. Disappointment (at least) should be expected.

@johnpierson4696 24 күн бұрын

How are the ACC's high academic and prestigious schools working out for you folks? Take your beating by the Mountaineer's as a prime example of why you arrogant elitist snobs should have added WVU to your conference in 2012.

@tarheel7406 24 күн бұрын

@@johnpierson4696 a) Due to a long-term deal now way behind the inflation curve, the ACC will deplete down to the BIG12's Tier 2 level but should remain far better in academic branding and prestige. b) The ACC has made academic exceptions for a compelling need. WVU never sated a compelling need and would have triggered defections long ago. In short, if WVU has ever been materially additive, it would have been invited. Regardless, the subject is UTAH.

@johnpierson4696 24 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 The ACC (primarily the North Carolina Schools) have blocked WVU being added in the past. When VT, Miami, Syracuse and BC left the Big East for the ACC WVU was denied. In spite of having a better overall sports resume than any of those schools) More overall wins (all-time) in Football and Basketball than any of those other schools.

@tarheel7406 24 күн бұрын

@@johnpierson4696 The objections to inviting WVU have been broad. Value is relative. Clearly the value of WVU to the ACC was never high enough to get invited. The ACC's brand includes academic reputation and overall sports. WVU doesn't fit that brand.

@johnpierson4696 24 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 What value has BC, Syracuse and Louisville brought?