❤he goes through a WELL PLANNED and WELL EXECUTED path to being a model citizen and CARTEL killer AT THE SAME TIME.

And Jesse had to f*ck it all up for everybody with his stupid decisions and lack of brains.

I don't think we're alike at all, Mr White.

ME TOO! I named my dog Gustavo after him!!!! He is the GOAT! And what is even more amazing is if you watch interviews with the actor who plays Gus Fring, he is the complete opposite of him…he is so warm and welcoming and dare I say even a little bit emotional…it makes it all the more amazing how he crafted Gus Fring’s personality and how skilled he was to play such a character! The character of Gus is so likable by society for his professionalism and intellect but yet so badass at the same time for the way he handles business.

Too smart for modern critics. Not enough flag waving.

I thought it was even better than breaking bad

@@daisygarnett2148 Me too, I liked the writing better

What is this? I literally just looked it up and the first thing I saw was "critically acclaimed", it was one of highest rated shows. It's become common opinion that Better Call Saul is superior to Breaking Bad. It also garnered more views than Breaking Bad, you can look all these facts up.

It’s literally one of the highest rated shows ever on television what more do you want 😭😭

That's how many great directors/writers etc work. They have a vision but they realize a spark and capture it. My other favorite example of this is that the character of Jack (Matthew Fox) was literally supposed to die in the pilot episode of Lost.

That is one of the most beautiful aspects of art... no matter how much you think, plan, and sketch it out, sometimes true art just... happens. The true quality of an artist is being able to grab these moments and work with them.

A testament to the writing talents of those productions

On "Family Matters," Steve Urkel was supposed to just make a single appearance, but the audience loved him so much that the show just kept him.

Yes! Or in Barry with NoHo Hank! He was only supposed to be a recurring character in season 1 I'm pretty sure, but became so compelling by the end. If you haven't seen Barry, I thoroughly suggest it if you like shows like these. It's more of a comedy than breaking bad, while still capturing the dark, grittiness of the "anti-hero" genre.

lol most award shows aren’t about actual merit but whose ass you kissed the best and how politically correct your work is.

"Saul" had 0 wins out of 53 nominations. The Emmys are a farce.

how can lalo be a better villian when he doesn’t even have a strong motivation, backstory and etc? there are plenty of evil psychopaths like lalo in other series. you can say he’s charismatic, charming and very entertaining to look at overall but a best villian? dude

@@user-pg8kh6iu1kyou don’t understand what makes a great villain. Lalo is an all time great

@@user-pg8kh6iu1k he said "pure villain" so ultimately I agree with both you and OP

Is this a meme, because i don't remember him saying that nor can I find it when I googled it.

True, I havent watched Better Call Saul yet , so I don't know if Gus and his cook's relation is fleshed out more there but in Breaking Bad, I didn't notice that the cook was Gus's emotional interest. On the contrary, I thought they are just good partners like Jesse and Walter.

Nah. Gus ain't no gae

right?! honestly my first impression wasn’t “these two are romantically linked” but it makes so much sense for Gus’s character - he wasn’t just out to make money, he wanted to build an empire to destroy the legacy of the men who murdered his lover. it’s really sad and beautiful.

​@@localpresencenyc Yep. For years he thought of nothing except revenge. It's not admirable but it is understandable. I liked what he said to Mike. "I'm fighting a war, and I need a soldier."

Totally agree that Better Call Saul was the better series overall. It had a much better and deeper character arc of the main protagonist.

@@philippk736 I honestly agree and I loved Walter White but Vince somehow made Saul a much deeper and interesting character to me till the very end

most people that watched BB before BCS were expecting more of the same excitement. There is enough in BCS but it's much more of a slow burn that you have to just be patient for. Too many people give up after just part of the 1st season of BCS... Which is sad.

@@DB-zp9un so true my parents did this. And I’m like No, it’s even better , just give it time.

@@uchihabomber1296​​⁠never understood why people think this. I can understand thinking bcs is overall better but honestly jimmy just wasn’t interesting to me it felt like they were trying too hard by throwing in a ton of depth and complexity but in the end it was as if the writers were insisting on jimmy being a great character and it just didn’t feel all there. Walter Whites character was like catching lightning in a bottle everything just worked

It worked because the show runners had an overall frame of the direction in which adjustments could be made, without loose ends or changing style of the show.

Often overlooked? Ever since he entered the Breaking Bad universe, he is generally regarded as either the best or second best villain of the show. He is most certainly not "overlooked"

I like this analogy!

Todd was in my opinion the scariest character in BB/BCS. Lalo at least showed that he loves his family, Todd is just completely apathetic and souless

He really didn't have any such opportunity. Any such relationship would endanger his lover and expose Gus to blackmail.

He tells the story of the animal he trapped and made suffer for a long time as a child… so he’s always been that kind of person, but Max dying is the event that flipped the switch and set him on the warpath.

Is that true? I'd certainly watch it, although i am a bit worried how they will deal with the age thing. Esposito - with all due respect - already looks significantly older than when he first appeared in Breaking Bad, and such a show would have to play years before he met Walter White. When i saw Esposito in "The Mandalorian" my first thought was: man Gus Fring got old. Nothing wrong with that of course, only natural and happens to all of us, but it messes with the timeline and immersion of such a series. So they would have to either use technical methods to make him appear younger, which could take away from the subtlety of his acting, or they might use another similar looking young actor for the early years. I can't imagine they will just depict the actor as he currently looks, and pretend he doesn't look way too old.

I feel the same way.

I like the train pun hehe, I don't see how it lost steam as the season was all about consequences, and it wrapped it up beautifully. The gunning down scene at the compound is just unbelievably satisfying, both the action and final conversation between Jesse and Walter.

Agreed!

Loved gus and was sad to see him go, but at the same time it's a perfectly understandable trajectory to showcase walt as the true villain.

​@@justthinking650 I really wanted Gus to kill Walt who I absolutely detested by the end of season 4. But I knew it wouldn't happen, and that upset me.

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Not to mention he made meth without daddy's permission

@@Vivi_9 that too yes. i love how gus gets into the lab (changes and stuff while walt pleads), goes around the lab, and only then notices the box cutter. "oh, a deadly weapon, how conveniant!"

As said in the video, Gus was very efficient. If you have to kill one of your goons, might as well get the most out of that kill.

I love that Green Gobliin truck.

I first saw his acting in Do the Right Thing honestly, two completely different characters

He will always be Esteban to me.

A lot of fast food workers don't eat their own food, bc they see it every day. They only eat it if they're desperate and can't afford anything else.

​@@sumanadasawijayapala5372 That's probably it. I bet Gus ate too much fried chicken when he was starting out and needed to save money.

Nacho is in the far cry universe too :D

Esposito was in the Mandalorian, but he was not as good as in Breaking Bad. Probably because the role was much less complex, and gave less leeway for nuance.

I believe he also had a *rent - a - family* in order to blend in, but I don't think we ever saw them. It would have been very creepy.

Lyle cleaning the fryer. Shudder!

Who you think made more bad decisions?

@@kentte8156by far Walter and his ego. You could argue that gus made just as much but he definitely was not well off in the beginning as walter was. Gus was born into a life of misfortune but walter had huge potential and decided to go the opposite purely because of his ego.

Saul also had a moment to turn back when Howard finally offered him a job at HHM

@@TheChannel32 Yeah that makes sense.

He runs a tight ship and he can be too much of a cleanliness freak. Lyle will tell you all about that.

Yea, he had Gus scared for sure. But dealing with Lalo also made Gus more Dangerous/Careful for BB because he had learned from personal experience what its like to deal with such a psychopath. I love Lalo. He was all the good qualities of all the villains balled up into one guy, he was dangerous, smart, charismatic and he actually got his own hands dirty when he got stuff done.

If Lalo blows his out of the water then why did Lalo end up berries beneath Gus’ business? 🤣🤣🤣 Lalo was definitely more charismatic and psycho scary but Gus was 100% the smarter criminal. It’s like lex Luther vs Deathstroke. I’d much rather right the bald guy without super strength but Lex will always be better in the long game.

​@@Barrythebarnabas Lalo was very smart, Gus for sure is legendary but you gotta give props to Lalo my man

Gus was the superior villain to Lalo, first and foremost because Gus could hide in the middle of society, whilst Lalo would always stand outside, at any point risking being uncovered and jailed. When people looked closely at Lalo, they saw a psycho goon. A smart one, with strong instincts and good people skills, but still just a goon. He had to rely on people not looking directly at him for too long. When people looked closely at Gus Fring, they saw a business man, upstanding citizen, a pillar of the community. He build a alternative persona that would resist intense scrutiny, which gave him so much more control. Secondly: Gus was much more creative and visionary. Whilst Lalo was good at solving isolated situations, reading and manipulating people, Gus had a long term vision and built something of his own, something that would not rely on his constant readiness and attention. Lalo was about short term fixes, Gus about long term building and problem solving. Overall Gus Frings approach also made him much less disposable than any other criminal working for the cartel, even the individually talented ones like Lalo. It also made life more comfortable for Gus, yes he was still a workaholic, but he did not need to be, it was just who he is. Both villains were in a risky situation by the nature of their business, but Gus had much more leeway for error, whilst Lalo needed to watch his every step much more carefully. Not to speak of the simple day to day comforts. Whilst Gus had multiple nice apartments, Lalo hat to spent time in New Mexico in jail or in the sewers.

I'd like to have seen Gus retire to his ranch in Mexico, and live like a philanthropic monk. Lyle (his padawan) could have taken over Los Pollos Hermanos with make handling any labour problems.

Lyle should have been the man to kill him.

Who did what?

Za hunchback of notra dame

Nostradamus!

He's great in the boys

That's why he was such a good villain. A drug dealer on a massive scale masquerading as a boring middle management type, the type you meet every day. Small business owner in the service industry, nothing to look at here. Even if he is wealthy and spends money on expensive things, nobody would think twice, other than "hey, his businesses must be doing okay, good for him"

But gustavo is more cunning, looks harmless yet dangerous

Lalo was chaotic in his own way.

Lalo is way inferior to Gus. A few reasons: Gus is long term planning and building something of your own. Lalo inherited his part in the business, never built anything of his own, did not plan long term and was all about short term fixes. Also whilst Gus built a persona able to withstand intense scrutiny, Lalo was always at high risk of getting stuck in prison or killed. Gus was way more efficient in the way he did things, and his setup gave him more more leeway to make mistakes. Both are ruthless, determined and methodical, but Lalo was always somewhat improvising. Overall, Gus' efficiency, his long term planning and his way of making himself indisposable to the cartel, whilst looking like a regular small business owner on the U.S. side of things made him the far superior criminal, compared to Lalo. The only thing Lalo has going for him is: he is more scary in an individual encounter. So on a superficial level he might be the more imposing figure, but that alone does not make a good criminal. The best criminals are mastermind types, the godfather type of guy, not the thuggish goon, no matter how talented or high ranking that goon is.

Nope. Walter White takes that title. By far the most complex villain in BB/BCS

He can be both, a villain out for vengeance.

The Salamancas’ business was dead. Gus was a higher earner. Eladio chose Gus over the Salamancas because Gus made more money. Lalo nor Hector did not get that.

The ultimate Villain of BB/BCS was Walter White. He took everyone down with him

He even would have had leeway to spent much of his riches. Expensive trips, cars, golf club membership etc. People would have just thought "oh his businesses must be doing well, good for him" Nothing to see here. He was hiding in plain sight and gave himself plenty of wiggle room, with his middle management / service industry type demeanor. Smart move.

god it was conirmed by gould.. stop being homophobic

@@user-pg8kh6iu1k How is saying that there is no evidence and it was never confirmed the same as being homophobic? People like you who throw around these terms so loosely are the reason why words like "racist" and "nazi" lose all their meaning in modern culture. I cannot find anything in the wikis that confirms the theory of them being lovers. Seems to me like you just need to stop being so homo-focused.

immediately stopped watching and reported for fake news when i saw that too. i dont remember the periodidic table for shit but i remember every detail of breaking bad at least im not uncultured swine.

@@jmili9this better be a joke