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TIE Fighter animated film was the best portrayal of TIE Fighter pilots being pure unadulterated awesomeness.

The Tie fighter feels like it came about the same way Mitsubishi made the Zero in WW2, sacrificing safety and structural integrity in order to meet the otherwise impossible design requirements.

The TIE was one of Tarkin's ideas. He wanted a cheap but maneuverable fighter that sacrificed basically everything - including life support - for speed. And it worked. It was also a tremendous tactical and financial blunder that most other officers recognized after Tarkin's death, hence the development of ships like the TIE Interceptor.

For the first 14 years of the Empire, the Tie Squadrons were unstoppable under the cover of their ISD. Ties tore through A-Wings and Y-Wings. Ties didn't start getting ripped to shreds until the Rebels got the X-Wing around 5 BBY.

Considering no fighter ships have safety ejects, almost any fighter pilot training in the Star Wars universe is incredibly dangerous

TIE's were never confirmed to be fragile ships. They were mass produced, yes, but they were also state-of-the-art. Remember only 6 ships were deployed at Yavin before Vader himself took over, and they took down rebels without much effort.

I know this is a silly universe where real physics doesn’t apply, but some kids learning real physics might be watching so a small correction: Momentum affects you even if you’re in a vacuum. Love your show!

Playing TIE Fighter in the 90's was a blast. 1st hit, might knock out targeting. 2nd might take out the ejection system. 3rd hit was destruction.

Okay, so hear me out here: it was deliberate. Palpatine always, ALWAYS had an eye towards sabotaging the Republic, and I don't believe this stopped when it became the Empire. Just look at Operation Cinder, for example. I strongly suspect that, much like the CIS before it, Palpatine set the Empire up for intentional failure. His reasons for doing so would be quintessentially Sith -- both revenge upon the Republic and keeping potential threats to his power suppressed. The Star Wars setting proves time and again that skilled pilots in small but potent fighters can radically swing the outcome of major power struggles, and I firmly believe Palpatine knew this and saw it as cause for concern.

The classic TIE fighter game on PC was so much fun and really gave you a good idea of what it was like to be a TIE fighter pilot. When flying the regular TIE fighter it would only take 3 to 4 laser blasts to take you out and usually just one missile. Flying it was so much fun you had to be smart about how you attacked. Also good luck on taking out an A wing in a TIE fighter. You could take out X-wings as long as you managed to get behind them. You really felt like you accomplished something when finishing a mission in a TIE fighter. Then on some missons you had to fly the bomber, that was a bit more challenging. even if you diverted all power from your lasers to the engines you still moved pretty slow. When you finally got to fly the Interceptor, you could hold your own against X-wings and a-wings a bit better thanks to the increased speed but you still didn't want to take them head on. Then when you finally got to do a missons in a ship that had shields it was like night and day you finally could survive better. The first shielded ship you usually got to fly was the gunboat. It has medium speed but had lasers, missles, and ion canons. It could take a lot of damage. You eventually got to fly the TIE advance, flying that ship really made you feel like a badass pilot, then you felt like more of a badass when you got to fly the TIE Defender.

I used to play X-wing v Tie fighter a lot. Even entered and won a multi-play tournament. I chose the TIE Interceptor, everyone else chose the A-wing. I cleaned up - because sheilds create a psychological weakness. You take a glancing hit, you dump power from weapons into shields, and divert power from speed to refilling your weapons. Which makes your A-Wing slow and even more undergunned. A-wing after A-wing dead, because the pilots 'trusted' their shields (and tried to get a missile lock on an interceptor). I get so sick of the 'TIE is a bad design because no shields / hyperdrive / big view port' retoric, when the TIE is a weapon system of a capital ship, and as such, can stay on mission in far off areas with better sensor coverage than the rebel pilots. But so be it.

Although he was a master manipulator, Palpatine relied on his sychophants for the daily running of the Empire. I think him being a Sith led to the arrogance that the galaxy could be pacified with a strong hand of authority. But Palpatine also needed a way to keep the dark side dominant which was reflected in how inept their military actually was. The raid on Aldani and the Battle of Scarif showed how unprepared the Empire actually was in battling another military force. This was a military force designed to fight pirates and smugglers.

Imagine the amount of alarms blaring on Vader’s hyperbaric meditation chamber the moment some Imperial clerk entered the name Skywalker into the Academy applicants list 😂 if Owen Lars had let Luke apply for the Academy, Vader would have known immediately his son had survived childbirth

Star Wars Squadrons added so much depth to being a fighter pilot. Although it doesn't make sense having different speeds in space, it is still super cool to play and balance resources. I play the story on repeat, sadly in the UK there are no multiplayer servers to have real battles in. Still fun though

“Never forget that your weapon was made by the lowest bidder”

just before i forgot and continue viewing the video: The Expanse did actually a great space battle preparation scene in season 2 where Alex, the pilot of the Rocinante, run a couple of tests and simulations before the crew attacks the Thoth station. Because of the buildup before a single burst is fired, it makes more like a confrontation between submarines than a plane dogfight or... if i have to use a more recent Star Wars reference, the Luthen Rael confrontation when his ship gets intercepted by the Empire. This is why I think that even a franchise like Star Wars can sometimes use some space battles where intelligence and not the Force would be trusted, especially if you don't have any Jedi around. :)

Alan, your channel is such a breath of fresh air. Discussing unique topics and immersing us viewers deeper into Star Wars lore. I tip my helmet to you, Sir.

The clones were too expensive? Yet two death stars aren't. Then Starkiller base, and then the whole fleet of death star, star destroyers. Seems he shoulda just made the clones.

One other thing with people who might wash out of the TIE training is that the ones in the last year who leave are probably not washing out, but transferring. The Imperial Army and Navy did have a pretty massive need for pilots in other positions for things like Shuttles, transports, and other things. In some of the legends material, there had been a lot of references to interservice issues with the Army and parts of the Navy poaching perspective TIE pilots that were later in their training...the Army and Stormtrooper corps also poaching several for things like the various tanks and similar that were developed off of the TIE systems (Mauler/Crawler designs as a major one) or gunships. The ARMY would largely be getting them from the 2nd year washouts because that's when the transition would happen to exo-atmospheric training and there were several cadets who had issues with null-grav environments, and later ones more for transport/shuttle training

That hard cold calculated type of warfare is pretty much The Expanse IMHO. Like when Marco sent multiple stealth coated projectiles on a collision course with the Earth that took half a season to occur

To go back to the WWII analogy, I tend to see the TIE Fighter as the Japanese Ki-43 Hayabusa (Allied codename: Oscar): Very maneuverable, only two guns, and no armor or self-sealing fuel tanks.

To some extent, you can say the TIE fighter is a munition delivery platform and not much else xD

Just imagine if the TIE Defender had been mass produced and put into service. Thrawn's TIE Defender program was too good to be dropped in favor of Krennic's project Stardust.

If only 10% of the students from the Imperial Academies made it as pilots of the TIE-Fighters, then how the Empire has so many of them?

You know what I just realized. Savage Opress is just the words "savage opresser" with two less letters. And it also is an acurate descrpition of him.

That was the best breakdown of the psychology and training involved in the production of TIE fighters and their pilots. Keep up the good work!

Great vid GenTech, fascinating discussion.

I was just going to say you described the expanse, amazing show!!!

I wouldn't be surprised if the life expectancy for TIE pilots would remain at 1 year for the early years of the rebellion. The rebels were a relatively small force so it was highly unlikely that an Imperial pilot would ever have any contact with rebel pilots. TIE pilots were more likely to run into smugglers, pirates or other criminal elements and many didn't really see any action. I imagine TIE casualties might have been high because of the ship's vulnerability to simple debris, consider what happened to the TIEs that chased Andor and company after the Aldhani heist.

Love this breakdown and the great points raised.

Thanks for another great video!

Lol. As you described the "boring" battle, all I could think of was The Expanse. In case my handle wasn't already a clue, big fan. Huge.

The TIE fighter pilot program and the tie fighter itself is almost synonymous with the imperial Japanese Navy during world war two. They had a very strict training regime, many pilots washed-out. They had a cadre of very experienced pilots that were sent into battle in the a6m zero which was not the most durable of aircraft in combat. While not a direct comparison there are definitely similarities

Just think how many must have been trying out to be pilots. At it's peak, the Empire had over 25 thousand Star Destroyers. Each one typically carried 72 TIE fighters. That's nearing two MILLION in total... and that's only counting the compliment on ISDs, how many more TIEs did they have when you include other ships, space stations, and ground bases? It also doesn't take losses and replacements into consideration. With numbers that huge, the Empire needed a fighter that was cheap to produce and maintain.

Brings back some great memories. Will always miss climbing into the cockpit of a F/A-18 E/F

Great Video!

Very enjoyable video as always

I hope they fix hyperspace ramming

Realistic space battles Sounds like battle ship

I think that I prefer the original Legends lore of the Imperial Academies. Essentially, everyone got to be a TIE fighter pilot for a year while they were something like Midshipmen on Imperial ships. If you found that you enjoyed being a tie pilot, there were advanced academies for people who flew Interceptors and other more advanced TIEs, but everyone did it. Like how every marine is a marksman, every Imperial Navy man can fly a TIE. But it was just one step on your career.

You Sir, are a brilliant young man.

My head canon is that shielding is so good that slow, powerful lasers are the only way to take them down. Kind of like the knife fighting in Dune.

For the early years of the Empire, the pilot training system worked well and mass deployed base TIE Fighters (after replacing the V Wing) worked wonders when they opposed small hostile groups and ran picket for their home ships. However, (a) the creation of organized resistance groups with larger ships, (b) better fighter designs (with control systems similar to civilian "aviation", meaning T16 -> X-Wing), & (c) the Empire's resistance to change (Tarkin doctrine, established military - industrial complex, etc.) led to high losses in the latter years. Much like another commenter said, compare this to the IJN Zero in WW2. Wonderful plane, better than almost everything else. But... Japan had to stick to the same design (for the most part) and couldn't change to something better as their enemy made advances. ... This is why the old Expanded Universe had ships such as the Tie Avenger, Tie Defender, etc.. all of which wouldn't be used in mass in the fleet due to the aforementioned reasons. The story of Polish cavalry, on horses, charging German tanks in WW2 is an exaggerated example of the same.

One benefit is that Palpatine gets the chance to strip the empire of all of their best pilots, by throwing them into the grinder. Thus reducing the pool of qualified fighters that may oppose him in the future.

The error bars for where a ship would be at any moment in space would make it very difficult to attack anything. All long range weapons would have to be guided. By the time the light coming from a distant craft reached you, it could have made any number of small or large adjustments to its course. And it would no doubt for standard procedure for any military vessel to make random changes to velocity vectors to prevent long range attack.

I just started rewatching ‘The Expanse’ and it’s even better the millionth time lol

Thank you for mentioning The Expanse 🙌🏾

The introduction of some great weakness seems to be a trait of the Emperor. Maybe it was just something that was picked up on in the writing but anything that could be a threat to him had something that looks like the story of Achilles as a small thing lets it be destroyed. You have to wonder if even the defects in the Death Star was something he know about but just did not think anyone but himself could exploit. I could see him thinking that if a group of the pilots ever tried to takeout his shuttle he did not want them in good craft with shields or his guards to be able to jump away to save themselves. Desperate people fight and can fight the hardest if they know they have only one chance to live.

If your ship is fast and can out turn your opponents, then shields and armor are nothing more than a speedbump on the way to death. Despite having no armor, no self sealing tanks, and engines that would catch fire with a single hit, the Japanese Zeros absolutely dominated the skies in the Pacific until the US developed better performing aircraft. The TIE's could outfly an Xwing so the Xwings had to come up with tactics to defeat the TIE's. This was the same with the F4F Wildcats vs the A6M Zeros. Head on attack worked well against both the TIE's and Zeros. Xwings often flew between light capital ships like Corvettes which had good anti-snub fighter weapons. This created a defensive gauntlet which TIE pilots would either have to pass through and risk destruction or break off their attack on the Xwing. Experienced pilots who recognized these tactics and/or who controlled their 1v1 egos could avoid these traps and absolutely wreck Rebel pilots. At least on paper. But lets be clear here, plot armor trumps all. For all of the fluff about the Imperial academies, the Imperial officers were always incompetent's and the TIE pilots were always mediocre. They rarely came off as extremely good in the shows even the the good guys seems to be incompetent themselves.

"come on, join the alliance, our ships have SHEIDS, and don't explode the instant you look at them funny" ".... Damn, you've got a point."

Hi I greatly enjoy GenTec!! Have you ever done a video of when a Star destroyer deployed a prefabricated Base? And what is deployed at that time?

Just started reading the Thrawn books, I finished the first one and now one third of the way through "Alliance" Those comic book pages are right out of the novel... I didn't know there were comic book versions of the same story. I will be looking into those.

Regarding "realistic" space combat, as you mention early in the video, I remember an anime from 2005 that I really liked called Starship Operators. It basically takes place on the bridge, the battles are done over huge distances, and there's very little drama in the combat. Much more suspense. Really liked that one. Only 13 episodes too.

It also show how well train imperial pilots were by the fact every pilot that went to the rebels became an absolute menace once they were given a sturdier fighter

It’s kinda counter-intuitive to put highly experienced pilots into flying coffins.

I love this channel because I can learn about Star Wars, world history, and humanity all in one go

The Expanse in my opinion, has THE best space battles BECAUSE of the realism. Watching ships poking holes in each other with kinetic weapons, watching ships blow apart and others having to avoid the debris or getting damaged as they get overtaken by a blast wave.....I had more hair raising, "OMG!" moments watching battles in The Expanse than anything else to date. Watching people patching holes, or their head be taken off by a bullet that went straight through the hull, it was freaking bonkers and I want more!

Imagine how awesome it would be to go through all of that and finally get the best spot on the bridge of the Star Destroyer, it would be soooooooo rewarding

The Expanse is pretty good, definitely check it out.

If you think about it logically, then the more advanced they become the more restrictive they become in engaging at range. If they launch missiles at long range then the missiles would need the fuel reserves in addition the payload to reach the target, and at that distance the enemy would have plenty of time to notice then shoot the missiles down or just evade them. So they kinda have to close range where they can be more sure their weapons will be effective.

I, I would very much like to watch that, then again, i love the Honor Harrington book series and there combat is usualy fought over entire star systems and not just around a single planet. After all, if you have missle tech with light minutes range, the comand and control loop is your biggest problem. The tech stuff and technical solutions to those problems are fascinating.

Putting someone as well trained as an imperial pilot in a tie fighter is like putting a formula 1 driver in a ford pinto

Everyone knows that TIE fighter pilots are 100% disposable , that is why we send out so many at one time . We give them ridiculously big side profiles. We don't bother to give them shields. We make them hilariously loud so that we can hear them from a galaxy away . And sometimes we don't even waste our time training them . Sometimes , I like to take a underling that I don't like and throw him into a TIE and launch him out into battle just for shits and giggles . Personally , I get off on sending them on kamikaze missions to clear asteroid fields . ( then set course in a different direction. )

The Star Wars universe has hugely advanced AI in the form of commonplace droids, cheap targeting computers, and widely accessible navigation computers that plot galaxy wide courses in seconds, etc. Ships even down to the starfighter size can have shielding (of several kinds) and basically infinite fuel/power output (consider how much maneuvering they do in combat) compared against 'hard' sci-fi universes. You see even star destroyers changing course, heading, speed, incredibly quickly for something of such mass. Which this in mind, it seems like combat moving back to point blank dogfighting with unguided or seemingly unsophisticated guidance would be the end result. If AI's are so advanced + cheap that even basic maintenance droids are basically sentient (R2D2, C3PO), able to interfacing with a huge array of technologies, plot complicated hyperspace courses, or just command entire vessels on their own, imagine the kind of ECM warfare and jamming abilities available to every ship in the galaxy. Even your basic freighter with a navigation computer and light shielding is hugely agile and survivable compared to an 'hard' space universe equivalent. Shooting at long range against defensive abilities like this would be feasible, but a waste of time. You're plinking at a target that can evade in any direction, can plot likely projectiles courses with ease and has the ability to take multiple hits even if you don't miss. At some point moving to what is 'point blank' in any other sci-fi and Saturating an entire grid with volume of fire becomes the best way to kill an opposing vessel. In this context, the Tie fighter design makes a lot of sense. You don't need escort fighters to have hyperdrive or shielding, it's purpose is to protect the capitol ship. Enemy fighters Have to close the distance to even have a chance to hit your large vessels, otherwise ECM and active countermeasures pick off your torpedoes/missiles well in advance. At a range where this won't happen, TIEs swarms can knock them out or make launching extremely difficult, while the Star Destroyers fill the sector with heavy turbolasers and destroy the enemy main fleet. This is my head cannon anyway, for why fleet combat in Star Wars always depicts lasers flying seemingly everywhere, despite advanced targeting computers and droid assist. The space equivalent of 'Dodge This', except you're using also using a minigun in each hand

Thanks for the RAF shout out 👍

This video seems to ignore that X-Wings didn't exist until after 5BBY, 15 years into the conflict. A-Wings and Y-Wings were a minimal threat to a Tie Squadron under the shadow of an ISD.

I LOVE the expanse!

It makes sense for TIE to not have hyperdrives they were carrier ships. It would however have made sense for there to be a specific longer range TIE patrol fighter that did.

Surely, without hyperspace capability, TIE's pilots can't run away and need to rely on their support ships/stations, the Empire prefer stay sure than having a better flexibility, also if they had to expose their ships on direct contact with the enemy, contrary to the rebels, that could launch their fighters from another systems, and waiting for them coming back.

Expertise in fantasy world... Amazing...

A better title would be "Why its Almost Impossible to Survive as a Tie Fighter Pilot".

Tie Figher is 1/3ed the cost of an x wings. Add shields, more guns, 2 ordnance launchers, and hyperdrive and poof, you are there. tie was 60k interceptor was 120k, and with that you got 4 extra cannons (much like the xwings) putting just a 30k difference between the x wing and a tie interceptor... with the difference being shields and hyperdrive. essentially to mount shields and hyperdrive on an interceptor, you'd loose some speed slowing it down to about the speed of an x-wing... but gain shields and such. Which leads to the intresting question... if the cost was so low why were they not put on, even a simple class 2 or even 5... to give pilots an escape option.

tie-fighters always reminded me of the Japanese Zero, when they first arrived they seemed superior; faster and more agile then anything else in the sky. but later they found out it had basically no armor to protect them. So, once faster airplanes showed up, it became relatively easy to shoot them down.

Funny. As Alan was speaking about what space combat should actually look like, I thought of The Expanse, (except no hyperspace.) BTW, Amos Burton is my favorite character.

The Expanse is amazing!

In SW legends the galaxy gun actually just uses planet busting warheads that go into hyperspace, and drop out right before they impact the planet they're targeted at. It's literally impossible to stop it once the projectile is fired.

I think they went with the imperial Japanese navy model there pilot training was incredibly hard and only small number graduated each year the zero was basically the same design ideas as the TIE

I'd argue quality of tie pilots dropped dramatically as the galactic civil war went on based on the ANH/RO pilots standing toe to toe with x-wings vs those seen in the Mandalorian, who couldn't even score a hit on a barn sized target flying half their speed lol

Lmfaoooo I was like is he describing the expanse? Then you suggested it 😂😂 love it, great reference

One thing that is easily forgotten: stealth in this universe is so great it even hampers manouverability (stated as early as ANH, during the Rebel briefing for the Death Star raid). That's why they don't have so many guided munitions, they just don't work very well.

If you know the battle forerunners where having vs the Rogue AI that teamed up with the grave mind it would blow your caps off. Entering and exiting ftl space in multiple calculated jumps in fractal geometric avoidance algorithms slowly attrition each others fleets.

The idea of local simulators in libraries or colleges is a brilliant addition to the lore! Is there a precedent for this or is it smth you thought up?

Ties did had an ejection function (SW Aftermath), but it seems we rarely hear from them.

The big radial engines fighters in the Ashoka series actually remind me of the Soviet I-16, giant round engine with nose mounted MG’s and a frontally mounted wing set and

Thing is, most if not all designs aim to improve on former experiences. In this case to the question how to effectively fight a gazillion of tiny droid fighters. So combining cheap and mass produced tiny, nimble fighters with cheap labor (as you stated, manpower isn't an issue) does make sense. Then again beating masses of TIEs with higher cost and thereby quality fighters while dealing with low manpower issues like the Alliance to restore the Republic had to deal with...the X-Wing does make sense as an evolution step in tech just as the TIE did before.

90% of cadets don't pass, but the remaining 10% end up flying unshielded star fighters and fly to their deaths.

Reminds me a lot of the IJN during WW2. The pilots were very well trained, but the planes did not keep up with the advancements as the war progressed and they never increased the pilot pipeline like the US did.

> "Reminds me of Dooku's" Its perfectly normal for the shaft to have some bend to it, some even prefer it that way.

Maybe it does not exist now, decades ago there was a test called the ASVAB, which was taken by sophomores/juniors in US high schools. The results of the test were used by the Dept of Defense to look for potential promising recruits. The test was oddly weighted by questions that would be a cake walk if the test taker came from a rural area with questions about home improvement and agriculture. If the academy system of Star Wars used a similar evaluation test, Luke Skywalker could have aced the exam. (As a note, the group that I belonged to destroyed the scoring curve. I received about a couple of inches of recruitment literature sent by all 5 branches and their sub-branches of the armed forces.)

Alan, do not forget that inertia still exists in space.

I'm just shocked all this came about in less than 20 years. Like how did this culture, created practically from whole cloth, just come into being so quickly? Also, if TIE fighter battle survival was not entirely luck-dependent then I would have to imagine after surviving five or more battles, those pilots must've been fearsome opponents

I will always stand by the idea that Palpatine made a massive mistake in not making TIE fighter a droid like the Vulture droid. Maybe have them tweaked to require a connection to a star destroyer to function so they can't go rogue or be defected to another side. Yes, the TIE can be put out in massive swarms to overrun the more tech-reliant rebel/republic pilots, but again, who's gonna fly the TIE if you raise the bar so high that you eventually run out of pilots to fill the swarm? Heck, I find it odd that Thrawn never bothered to start fielding TIE droids to support his TIE defenders.

Considering that compared to the US airforce, the Empire has an abundance of TIE Fighters, I am very baffled by how difficult it was for anybody to become a fighter pilot in the Empire. I always thought that becoming a TIE pilot was more akin to becoming a tank driver. It still requires rigorous amounts of training and a measure of competency as well as experience. But seeing how modern first world militaries can field thousands of tanks, the bar for becoming part of a tank crew is far lower than becoming an airforce pilot by virtue of the military needing more personnel to operate their tanks than their limited fleet of fighter crafts.

According to legends continuity, there was a conflict in the navy between starfighter-centric types who wanted the Incom starfighter, and the capital ship advocates who wanted ISDs. The second group won. The ISD is the centerpiece, and fighter production was deliberately cheapened so that they could build more ISDs. The TIE fighter doesn't need a hyperdrive because it is not an independent weapons system; it is an extension of the ISD's own anti-starfighter turbolaser defenses. This is also why it doesn't have shields; if you're attacking an opponent where those shields would be critical , such as a capital ship, you're doing something wrong. A TIE fighter is not a ship for heroes; it is one part of a combined arms system, responsible for patrol, inspection, and defeating starfighter assaults on the capital ship. It is ... adequate ... in this role. But if you try to use it like an X-wing, there is going to be trouble. Incom took its starfighter to the Rebels. And the rest is history.

"Entering the right Trajectories, Stealth and avoidance, I don't know how many people would actually want to watch that, who wants to watch a bunch of bridge officers yelling at each other making calculations and then boom, ships just explode." The very second you were describing this I was thinking, The Expanse, the ship combat is incredible in that series. I'm glad you're aware of it. Legend of the galactic heroes 「銀貨英雄伝説」 is actually a really cool example of a different outlook on space combat as well. One that focuses on absolutely massive fleet formation movements, and battles that take place over several days or weeks as the ships have to cover massive distances carefully only taking a fight when they believe they will win. There are actually fighters in the series as well, they work very very different from the ones in many sci-fi shows. I do suggest the OG show over the remake as the show really does not benefit from the condensing of the plot with the remake.

Fighter at 1:34 reminds me of WW2 Soviet fighter Polikarpov I-16

Remembering Star Wars episode 3, the ties vs x-wing hit ratio for a tie is higher than first thought. The swarm tactics of the fighters could wipeout an x-wings or y-wings shields, while to totally obliterate a tie like the one chasing Luke in that battle needed Wedge to hit the tie with all four x-wing cannons, so not a weak fighter craft. Not counting Vader tie, the tie could paste slower y-wings, however the couldn't maneuver like a x-wing unll the tie interceptor, which could go head to head with an a-wing as far as maneuvering.

In comparison of WWII air combat to Star Wars starfighter combat, you can see the similarities between Japan's air-combat doctrine and the Empire's starfighter doctrine. Both used, for the most part, combat craft that were designed to be inexpensive, so to be manufactured in large quantities, and were more focused on maneuverability and powerful standard weaponry. However, Japan's doctrine would also include the necessity of long-range abilities. The results being the Japanese "Zero" and the Imperial "Tie-fighter." How the pilots were trained and deployed also carry similar aspects. Japanese pilots, at the beginning of the war were given long training schedules to eventually become the "best of the best," and were expected to perform their duties without question, and absolutely devoted to giving their lives to their emperor. This doctrine would keep these elite pilots in air combat for as long as the war lasted, or more often, until their deaths. Of course, as the war dragged on longer than Imperial Japan had expected/hoped, more and more of their elite pilots were KIA and subsequently being replaced by lesser trained and experienced pilots. And although, initially, Allied pilots were less experienced with, typically only adequate training, and therefore were often outmatched by their Japanese counterparts in generally superior aircraft, the Allies had a very different air-combat doctrine. The Allies, in particular the U.S. which conducted the bulk of the Pacific Theater naval combat against Japan, were keener to develop counter-tactics with their inferior aircraft until the USN could develop and receive more advanced air-fighters to dominate the Zeros, plus the USN maintained a training strategy of recalling experienced pilots, who had served for a specified time period, so to instruct and pass on their knowledge to trainees. This passed on knowledge would be critical to the rookie pilots who would have significantly more knowledge of air-combat than their poorly trained opposition who were not given the knowledge from experienced pilots since the experience pilots of the IJN were too busy continually fighting and being eliminated from the equation.

Majority of rebel pilots wouldn’t last two minutes behind the cockpit of a tie They rely on luxuries far too much