I heard a story about a plastic dinosaur called Hugo that bought an Omega off Ebay. Hope it works out for him. Toodle-pip :)

08:00 Awwww yes. The Searnaster. A timeless classic.

Thanks for another informative video ! It's been a few decades since I've purchased a vintage watch, is there such a thing as a " restored " vintage piece ? And if so, could you give us some examples of what you would consider a good restoration. Thanks Jory !❤

Nice video! It was something I really didn't consider when I look at vintage watches. Keep up the great work. ☺️

Thank you for this video, Jory. This is important info for folks who are looking at vintage Omegas. The price points are often so attractive, but clearly one has to be very careful.

Sometimes a new old stock dial is not available so there is not very many options left other than repaint and wear it. Provided the purchaser is made aware then no problem.

Great content for new vintage watch hunters! Bringing the value to the community. Power to the people right on.

I've seen several of these on Ebay. Some say they have restored dials, some don't. But if it's well done, and costs a lot less, and it's a real Omega, I still don't understand why you shouldn't get one. They're so pretty:)

Hey Jory, very educational episode. I was curious about the listings you featured. I presume they were eBay? Was the seller ratings good? I'm wondering if they had big numbers and lots of positive feedback or not.

Jory thank you this video was very informative and enlightening in regards to vintage Omegas and other vintage pieces.

This is in top 3 vids on watch info, thanks a lot, just subed.

Thanks for this great video. I've been looking for a 1951 Omega for my dad's 70th next year and this will certainly help!

I found an omega constellation steel 31mm - quartz movement and black dial for 750$ is it a good price? its so clean and beautiful I feel like I wanna pick it up cuz I seen same models sell for 1000$+ is it worth 750$ for a quartz omega? its 1990s

Greetings to Urban Gentry viewers.

Thank you for the useful information and looking up to your viewers. I'm in the search for a vintage Omega and your video "open my eyes" to the nefarious transactions happening now.

You are becoming my new hero... im still new in watch collection but always into it. My dad hand over to me his 80s gold omega seamaster which i always like since i was a kid. Its not working anymore and need servicing. Hopefuly i can get it work again and make it presentable. Thank you for continuing educating us on your channel and it is so entertaining. Keep it up!

Great video Jory totally educational,,I wouldn’t have guessed they were fake until you said mate ..keep up the good work and il certainly take on board you’re advice cheers..ps it’s a shame people desecrate beautiful omega watches to rip people off.but such is life .

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for this, excellent and necessary episode. Stay safe man 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

I feel like we collectively just celebrated 100K Subs...and you’re already a fifth the way to 200K Some fast growth!

Thanks for this informative video!

Such a great info Jory. I learned something today. The only omega that I'll buy is Omega-3 eggs 😊

Well that was an education! Really great video Jory. A genuine public service. Many many thanks.

Good Video, but whats your opinion about the new Submariner-Killer the Seiko spb143j1???

Jory, the most likely reason why the letter spacing and the lettering baseline is so obviously wrong, is not that the typography system is counterfeit, because type design is complex and expensive to develop. It's because quality fonts have been reproduced on modern, but very cheap printers, which is where the kerning and baseline faults originate. I started my computer industry career selling Varityper "Cold Type" and the first Commercial Office grade computer phototypesetting in Australia in 1968 and Jacquard the first computer based wordprocessing equipment in 1972 and the Printer components were fantastically expensive, because the output had to compete with the end result from very, very, expensive and complex Hot Metal typesetting. 50plus years later every teenager with an illegal copy of Microsoft Word and a $50 Canon inkjet printer, thinks he can forge a Driver's Licence or produce a replica Omega Watch dial. Welcome to my world. Phil.

thanks for the heads up

Very informative video!

Hey man I got a couple “3” watches that my father had given me they are from his father. I was wondering if you could give me some insight ? They are all in decent shape one is an omega one is a longings? And one is a bulova? Please respond I will send pictures and dates that I have

You could say there is a lot of snobbery amongst watch collectors and enthusiasts when it comes to repainted dials! But there's a huge market for professionally refurbished vintage watches that include repainted dials and, heaven forbid, polished cases. That's what some people want. A nice shiny new-looking vintage watch from one of the world's great brands such as Omega. So long as they know what they are buying then I see no problem with that whatsoever.

Tgv and Hugo might be hitting their heads in the wall rn...

Excellent video, I saw a police report one time where a personal House Keeper was arrested for switching her client's Rolex out with a fake, the only problem with her plan was the fake Rolex's applied numeral 6 fell off the dial, ooooopppps!

I just bought my first vintage, a first owner 1969 Omega Geneve auto blue dial requiring but not needing service for 250€. Source locally. Saving up for full service now.

I'd be very careful about calling out vintage Omega's as fakes. They have numerous logos throughout the 40's to 60's and you're take on the first Cosmic was not correct. The 50's was a wild time, so unless you know what you're talking about or its obviously fake, just don't talk about it.

Vintage Omega watches are beautiful time pieces. Make great modern dress pieces.

wait.... am I understanding this right? You are calling all these recondition dial, fakes? That would be too hash time teller. It could be a genuine omega base dial which was retouched but the case, movement is all genuine.

Just purchased the "jump"watch made by Christopher Ward - looks like a real beauty and a very fair price based on my research. Thanks for your good work Mr. Time Teller.....

So... If I have one I found in my grandfather's house.. it's fine to have it restored?

Hi Jory. Please enlighten me. Why were the 50's to 60's have most of the Dials were altered that they get converted to be having a fake dial later on? I have a 50's Constellation and the dial too was altered which you can classify as fake. This constellation of having a fake dial was confirmed to me by Omega Service Center. It seems to be a common thing. What's up with those era ?

Speaking of novice collectors: have you thought about buying some "extremely unlikely to be real watches" on wish (such as the $20 Citizen eco drive blue angel edition) and reviewing what they are providing and how to tell its a fake? Thank you am enjoying your channel!

What do you think or Bobswatches

Are more modern pre-owned omegas on eBay the same way? I just started looking at 90’s seamasters.

Liking the new intro!

Where are you located? I have a small collection of omegas. I am in the market for another one.

Please help. I would like to know everything about the method of lubricating watches and the type of oils to be used

If you haven't yet, do a review on the buluva accutron spaceview.

I inherited a De Ville automatic gold-filled circa 1970(?) from someone who was a CEO and was a real stickler for punctuality, which means his watch was serviced regularly. It's been sitting in a drawer for twenty-one years. I feel silly hanging onto it just to look at a couple times a year just for sentimental reasons. Sometimes I think someone who would actually wear the thing should have it. Not sure what to do with it and I don't fancy the hassle of dealing with buyers who may or may not believe in its genuineness. Living in the sticks does limit my options regarding selling it. What to do???

Poor print quality? The ink was clearly uneven during the pressing process. Or the pressure tool is also unstable when printing onto the dial surface.

Hey man, can I send you an eBay link for one I am looking at?

Great video. Thanks for the knowledge. I learned that I’m not knowledgeable enough to buy a vintage Omega.😂

Well that was interesting. I guess it’s a great idea to bring a magnifying glass when looking at watches

I would like to buy vintage Rolex same as the one you own Jory the amazing 34mm Rolex 1500

i bought a brand new blue faced omega wind up watch when i was 26years old from a shop in stamford u.k wages were £26 per week and i paid £126 for it used it but got fed up winding it up its sitting in a jar now im 73y old ..lol

Hey Jory, great video as always but pleeeeeeease include examples of the real watches/dials in this kind of videos for us “not experts”. Thanks.

Okay that's kind of spooky, you said "It's 3:02 PM", and i checked my watch, and lo-and behold...... 3:02pm

Off topic, it seems the the last several watches I gotten by common carrier have all been magnetized. Has anyone else had that problem, it maybe a good video topic.

My Dad gave me his Omega Seamaster Deville when I was 15 years old. That was 1969 and I've had it ever since. I'm guessing it is about 1966. It's gold but I don't know what caret. I did have the crystal replaced probably 25-30 years ago but it's in really good shape because it mostly sits in a drawer. I would like to find out more about it. I think I would have to remove the back to find a serial# ??

Thank you! You just saved me buying a fake. I was not aware of the degree of this problem.

“If I wouldn’t wear it , I wouldn’t sell it”. Good philosophy 👍

sorry for the dumb question, but how old is "vintage," exactly? older than 1990? 1980?

This is so funny. I inherited an 14 krt Omega seamaster automatic from my grandfather. And it's the one you show as first. But mine is the real one, I send it to Omega Switzerland for service and I got it back like new and with a certificate. Omega won't service fake ones. The one you show also misses the word "automatic" right underneath Omega. And the letters are thicker than the original one. But for the rest almost the same though. I want to buy another one just because I feel like it. So thanks for uploading this video. 👍

Haha, a vintage Omega was the first watch I purchased, even before becoming a collector. Bought it in 1990 and I suspect it was manufactured in the 1950’s. It still works beautifully today and I haven’t done a thing to it. Guess I lucked out despite my ignorance.

Why, why, why would you display pictures of reworked or fake dials and not show any authentic ones? I feel like I've wasted 15 minutes watching.

I think it is better to buy a Timex, Westclox or Waltham Vintage watch. I don't think they make copies of most of those watches or do they? It is a risk to buy one of those luxury masks and more on Ebay

Yo tengo un Omega Es un seamaster waterpof 166036 tool 107 algo así se llama para vender pero no funciona,si a alguien le sirve me avisa gracias

I didn't know, and I'm studying Graphic Design. Oh god, I can hear my lecturers now, ALIGNMENT ALIGNMENT, KERNING! TOO TIGHT! PARAGRAPH STYLES!! *whip crack* *whip crack*. Good folks though...

Sorry. I buy them. I own a 1966 Omega gold capped constellation. Beautiful watch. It's all authentic. I did my ressurch and it was my first.

I understand your point but it is disingenuous to call them "Fake" it is like saying that because you put an aftermarket part on your 20 year old Ford that Ford do not stock anymore that the Ford car is suddenly a fake, no.

As a vintage Omega collector, I have to disagree with this KZfaqr. Many vintage watches, regardless of the brand, go through some restoration. A touch-up dial doesn't mean that Omega is a fake. Granted, if the touch-up/redial was done poorly, it affects the value quite a bit. But even then, there is still some values for some collectors. I personally have collected old 1930's non-running Omega watches and had to run around to find a horologist to fix the watch. He had to hand made some parts to get the watch to run again. Even then, the accuracy of the watch was shot - it ran 4 minutes slow in 24 hours. That's perfectly okay with me; I am not collecting for a perfect, accurate watch. I am collecting history, collecting memories.

Cuando viva allá te voy a comprar un omega vintage, porque hay muchos que no son de fiar, y algo que odio es la manera que venden los demás sin decirte toda la info.

Super sharp shooter shooting shots!

Thank you for the enlightening info. It turns out I was about to buy a fake Omega) Good timing on that video!

I’m not sure if one can call any aftermarket part fake until it is being sold alone with a clear intention to fool someone that it is genuine OEM part.

you know anti-shock automatic watches ????

Part of the hobby is to educate yourself, of what is legit and what is not. If you don't want to, you gotta pay others, that know what they are selling. There is no money to be saved in buying vintage watches. Evaluation of a fair price is part of it too. If you don't want to hassle yourself around with the one or the other, it will not hassle you anyway and you will wear a Mumbai Frankenstein watch with pride.

I think that as long as you do your research on the references, calibers, and sellers then you should be fine.

Calls 2:40 a redial. Shows original unredialled dial.

My cosmic has been a golden dream. Just finding his real band was painful and expensive.

Damn shame, the only vintage watches I would have considered. Thank you Jory 👌🏻 I'll stick to new ones from ADs. Cheers 👍🏻

hello!

As soon as I saw the watch at 1:45 I saw the horrible seamaster script (specifically the S) and knew it was fake. Once you've owned the real thing (considering it is authentic of course) it makes it easy to spot differences such as that one.

While I agree with the overall premise of this video, at the end of the day though, who cares? If the buyer likes something, even if it's redialled, they should buy it. The first Omega you showed was very nice and as a collector myself, would have no issue buying it and enjoying it. But yes, the 2nd and 3rd Omega look horrible. Just examine the watch thoroughly, check if the script looks neat and well applied, redialled or not, and then decide whether it's worth the asking price.

Nothing wrong with a well repainted dial

It’s like every damn omega on ebay too, and they are *not* priced aggressively-anywhere between $400 and $900 currently. It’s ridiculous. It’s completely ruined the market for genuine, well worn high-quality vintage omegas.

At the end,the conclusion is simple: only buy vintage watches If you are a true conosseur...or under the supervision of a highly reccomended conosseur/collector.

I think time teller overstates his watch skill’s the examples he shows are not obvious to my untrained eye

I have been taken a few..

Oh Jory, there you go again, trying to deter me from the Seamaster 200m Prebond. But alas, someday it will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine!

Each to there own.

i think there is a distinction between a poorly restored / refinished dial, and a fake. I remember seeing one where the omega logo was covering the lettering somehow and it sold for a retarded amount of money

A lot of these dials aren't fake but just amateurishly refinished. Swiss dials rot after just a few years. One of the reasons I prefer Seiko.

Your website should have a filter for "available watches" -- it's great that you're selling them like hotcakes but I don't like scrolling through pages of "sold out" watches!

See I like that super aged moon phase omega lol

Wait till you get old Jory. Being touched up becomes a life goal.

Omega is a sort of offender. You'd have hoped that a watch that was called Seamaster would have been better sealed against moisture. That's the whole reason why it sometimes seems that one half of 1960s Seamasters have ruined dials and the other half have fake dials. Roamer watches of the same period were better sealed and have a better dial survival rate.

I think you are wrong. You don't take into consideration the fact that watches are over 50 years old and they weren't as careful with details back then as they do today! go see specialists !! moreover, restoring a watch case back does not mean that it is a counterfeit.

Next you'll be telling me this Oris I got from India isn't authentic. I've got 30 bucks in it.

I'm honored my comment affected you positively! Made my day too :) - Han

Tgv uploads a video about vintage omegas.... T3 says yah no fam

I thought Hugo was banged up

So.. the point of this video is it that these watches are fake or is it that original watches have been restored and the original writing written over by an amateur?