One of my piercers took on an apprentice that was glaringly obviously not suited for the position: no piercings of his own (sure, some scared needles, but it's a big red flag), no interest in customers' piercings, stayed stood where he couldn't possibly see the piercing sites (yes, plural), and paid almost no attention during the piercing process. He almost made me want to apply for an apprenticeship on the spot, just to get him out. His lack of love for piercings was so obvious that I thought he was a tattoo apprentice, until my piercer asked if he could watch
@ghostofjune10 ай бұрын
As someone who is actively looking for an apprenticeship I can't agree more. Thanks Lynn :)
@onedirectioninfection575610 ай бұрын
I clicked this so fast when I saw the notification pop up! based on what you've said in other videos on the topic, I already agree with you edit: just finished watching. big agree on all your points! someone who doesn't want to put in the work to become a viable candidate, and instead complains about how difficult it is to become a piercer, should not be one. you can tell these people don't value piercing as a career and have low to no standards, as well as lack care about client's safety and the industry if they want to raise the bar of entry and allow in a flood of unqualified at best and careless at worst future-bad to mediocre piercers when there's already way more bad than good ones.
@christiebecerril811310 ай бұрын
YES! I love your spicy takes and I love hearing your thoughts on apprenticeships and the industry. It really sounds like people don't truly care about becoming a good piercer and it's so different to imagine someone who can't make it to their own appointment or call to cancel/reschedule vs your journey of going through several apprenticeships to ensure you were taught well. It shouldn't be 'easy' to have access to needles and someone's body without training and professionalism.
@inkyynikki10 ай бұрын
My city has one of the only tattoo and piercing schools in Canada. It's embarrassing. Watching every 4 months a new round of artists/piercers come out. Let's just say I'll always be employed fixing the tattoos, our piercer is running herself tired, fixing everything that has been done. Being in the industry is such a hot commodity right now.
@chloecampos290910 ай бұрын
I want my body piercer to be the best they can be so yes, from the client perspective, it makes sense that this is a competitive industry (#1 rule is to put clients first, always❤)
@christinak408210 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I think it’s ridiculous how hard it can be to find a safe shop to go to, when all of that could be prevented if the industry was more picky on who they let in. Im tired of seeing young people go to shops that don’t care about them and the quality treatment/piercings they deserve, and they end up with life long scars and misinformation. I want to be in this industry, and I want to advocate for safe practices and my background in esthetics makes me extremely aware of the importance of sterilization and disinfection. I think a lot of people forget that yes this is a fun thing to do, but you are messing with peoples lives and bodies *permanently*. You can’t just oopsies I messed up and take your mistakes back. If a piercer doesn’t see me as a good fit for the industry at that time, I’m willing to take the notes I need to educate myself and apply the information to be better. Since the government doesn’t take this industry seriously, it’s our responsibility to do that and take care of our community properly. I’ve been on the tail end of both good and bad piercing experiences. I really want to see this industry reach the potential it deserves.
@mydogeatspuke8 ай бұрын
Some of my very worst experiences were with APP registered purported professionals with "decades of experience" and large online portfolios (of fresh and posed piercings rather than natural and healed) and high numbers of positive reviews, and their apprentices. It should be that you go somewhere like that and pay their higher than average fees knowing you'll get the best experience you can, but it's a minefield out there. I've had some be so nice and accommodating and respectful beforehand but then when there's a problem with their poor work they become rude and argumentative and try to gaslight and blame the client for their own mistakes, and it's so sad that it happens so frequently and it's always the people who prattle on about acceptance and inclusivity on their social media that end up being the bitter and unstable monsters. There needs to be regulation and certification, testing for qualifications etc. Most apprentices I've seen were once very regular clients with far more piercings than is "reasonable," (to each their own ofc but I'm sure you know the type) who then became "friends" with the owner, and who wouldn't be your friend if they're singlehandedly paying your bills with their custom. It's like it's seen as a natural transition, and because there's so much history there, the apprentice isn't given the cold hard truth when their skills aren't good enough. The clients are the ones who suffer, from bad experiences, bad piercings, and then a really bad time trying to get anyone to acknowledge the issue let alone fix it, and that's assuming they're even competent enough to fix it as a lot of these owners, registered with the APP, teaching apprentices with back pats and gold stars really aren't competent at all. And you can't even speak out about it online because they just snap back with their sass and attitude and lies, and all their fans cheerlead and pile on like it's a popularity contest rather than a business and someone's body being harmed by a charlatan.
@ghostlight464410 ай бұрын
i think in many spaces, the idea of accessibility is conflated with every possibility being good for everyone. a basic equality versus equity lesson will teach you that that’s not true. i value the experiences of marginalized people, including myself, deeply and always. that doesn’t make me as a person with adhd suited to, say, being a barista who has to juggle six tasks at a time. we have to know ourselves to seek possible futures, including anti-capitalist/racist/colonialist/classist ones
@foxv63410 ай бұрын
I never considered this perspective! Makes so much sense when you compare it to other traditional fields. Amazing insight as always
@abigailmyers258710 ай бұрын
I totally agree! Competition is an important nuance to consider when hiring apprentices. However, what makes someone a good candidate for an apprenticeship? When looking for typical jobs (office, doctor, lawyer), a solid resume with experience, education, and references are important, but I honestly don’t know how someone would go about applying to apprenticeship positions. The candidate likely doesn’t have a portfolio or experience (other than healing piercings and educating themselves through media), so what do piercers look for in an applicant? Is there a specific resume structure, research portfolio, or personality/passion that they look for? I’m curious to hear your take on this!
@onedirectioninfection575610 ай бұрын
they've discussed this before in videos about how to get an apprenticeship/become a piercer and "5 Things to Know Before Becoming a Piercer". some points i remember are to attend the Fakir Intensives (which studios sometimes send their piercers to anyways), take BBP and first aid/CPR courses, and be a good, reliable, respectful client. lynn's also said their number one important thing to look for in an apprentice is that they're empathetic to how vulnerable clients have to be to get a piercing done.
@kaligirwanamahoro992110 ай бұрын
The cat is a paid actor
@rainstar209310 ай бұрын
You're absolutely amazing thank you for the brows 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 looking forward to future piercings
@MK-tk2fx10 ай бұрын
I love this but also. I really not a fan of ableism and this cuts into that a bit. Id like to explain how it came across to me. I understand the implications, however i dont think its fair to turn people with social anxiety away when they could very well have skills and be knowledgeable. The best of the best doesnt always include a super friendly personality. Sometimes people are a bit more reserved. Yet informative, and still sweet. I think thats okay. Or people who can be scatterbrained and need to make lists, and have timers. That goes into them accommodating themselves to allow to run smoother. A good mentor, a list system, awareness (and maybe medication) can help with that. I dont think its entitled to think that a person with knowledge and passion for this deserves a chance. But i definitely have met some entitled people with the mentality of "if i apprentice here ill get free piercings and tattoos" which to me, is so frustrating. I think that being inclusive should also involve people who have disabilities. Obviously, having certain disabilities are a liability esp depending on severity (like you probably shouldnt be working in a field that can put others and yourself at risk due to your disability) but those with invisible disabilities that can manage and that still want to partake in society and achieving their goals... they should be allowed a chance to try. If it doesnt work out, it doesnt work out. But i think limiting them off the bat without seeing what a person is capable of is something maybe you should revisit, as this involves mental health as well, and you have talked about how this industry is ripe w mental health issues. I hope we are able to open up convos about this as well.
@MK-tk2fx10 ай бұрын
Obviously its up to the mentors to discern these situations and it can be circumstantial, i also dont believe just anyone should have access to these opportunities. Professionalism is so important. Like your client for example. She did not respect your time. Respect of peoples time in this industry is crucial. If you cant respect others time its safe to assume these habits will carry over. Thats a reasonable assessment. But not every person with time management issues will be like that. Some will be an hour early just to not inconvenience anyone. I only wanted to bring a different perspective to be observed, because self discipline in these respects are important. The clients state, body and time are of upmost importance. Empathy and consideration go a long way in this profession. You can be perfectly ablebodied, neurotypical and lack both of these qualities. Does that mean that this person is more qualified than the socially anxious person that is occasionally late because they had gastric issues before work? Like i said. Mostly circumstantial. Edit: this industry currently also is more accessible to those willing to dish out the cash to get apprenticeships. So it makes it less accessible to people with great potential that cannot afford to go hungry/broke just for an opportunity. Which cuts into the issue with apprenticeships today
@Lynn_Loheide10 ай бұрын
So I’d like to clarify- I definitely think there is a place for folks of all abilities in this industry! I struggle with mental health issues and physical disability myself. I think there are absolutely ways to accommodate in this industry. When we talk about training someone however, we need to pick the best candidate. It’s ok if you struggle with being scatterbrained and need timers or lists. But if you are consistently late to every appointment at the studio and forget essential documents this shows me not only do you have these struggles but you are not managing them well. As a mentor, I’m happy to help people figure out how to manage them as it applies to work. But you have to be managing them at least a little on your own- it’s not a mentors job to replace a mental health professional. The same can go for social anxiety. You can be a bit more reserved. But if you are expressing that you do NOT want to spend extra time with clients, hold space for clients who need more, spend more time on bedside manner. That’s not ok. Clients deserve someone who is going to be able to provide an emotionally supportive experience- someone who actually wants to be in the room with them. I think we can absolutely be inclusive of a range of abilities- but the client still has to be the person who comes first. And it takes a lot more then just knowledge and passion to make a great piercer.
@MK-tk2fx10 ай бұрын
@@Lynn_Loheide thanks for your stance and clairty on the matter Lynn! I appreciate your input into specific situations. i do like shining a light in your brain. I just hope you dont think that i think client's dont come first or that i am opposed in any way
@Kakmanmartinez66610 ай бұрын
Honestly I was scared no one would hire me over social anxiety. I'm glad it was cleared up in the comments. I struggle with BPD and I'm so scared they'll just deny me without giving me a chance. I work really hard and I'm more social than I used to. I know I'll be in my element instead of another part time retail job. And I'm always practicing different scenarios so I can be a good piercer and have great clients when I finally get my apprenticeship. I don't believe anyone's illness defines who they are.
@prettyrabbitz10 ай бұрын
Hi! I am an autistic body piercer who just graduated from my apprenticeship, and I’d like to also add into your point. I think Lynn’s point is credible in the specific job and what it entails. A lot of the time, if you’re socially anxious, you could lock up and not know how to react, or how to explain to a client that something might not be right. It’s happened to me until I had to find a way to troubleshoot it- or I couldn’t Pierce. There’s split second choices that have to be made. It is person to person, not generalized. I know a friend with anxiety who could run circles around me with customer service, or friends who do night cleaning to avoid interaction. You need to be able to be open in conversations and transparent, and have difficult talks that say “This isn’t doable, this isn’t right, etc”. I had a client almost pass out in my chair, and a man trying to sell pies was trying to solicit me at my piercing room door. If i let anxiety fill me, I’d be no use to my client or anyone. It was necessary for me to set aside my anxiety and lack of confrontational skills to tell him firmly I needed to tend to this, and he needed to go. Some people can, some people can’t. And both are ok as people! But sometimes not compatible with handling people in their weaker or vulnerable moments. You wouldn’t want an EMT or fire fighter to lock up or get anxious in a split second moment, we try to avoid it as well!
@SebastianSeanCrow10 ай бұрын
0:00 yes! Sorry but like I think people should prove they truly want it and love it to get into it. I def want to learn to tattoo but that’s not my passion, art in general is and I love art which is why I’d love to learn to tattoo but guess what? I KNOW I won’t and can’t keep up with it between poverty, disability, and wanting a different career, so I’m not going to pursue it. I’m not gonna waste someone’s time like that 😭