When F1 pay drivers were actually amazing

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F1 pay drivers don't have the best of reputations... let's take a look at times where money paid for a seat of some brilliant drivers.
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@Pikktryne
@Pikktryne 2 жыл бұрын
Lauda was less off a pay driver and more of a debt driver, the balls on the guy though jeez
@IQmates
@IQmates 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m now starting to find some new respect to the relationship Lewis and him had. Different reasons but blocking challenges each had to endure. 🤔
@un6250
@un6250 2 жыл бұрын
He paid his way into f1 and then talented his way into Ferrari
@Pikktryne
@Pikktryne 2 жыл бұрын
@@un6250 yeah, i mean the results speak for themselves
@125israel
@125israel 2 жыл бұрын
He had so much nuts lol
@bishyeahbish3758
@bishyeahbish3758 2 жыл бұрын
*of
@t0r0x4l0t
@t0r0x4l0t 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: by the early to mid-90s, Banco Nacional was basically broke but Senna kept carrying the brand logo and wearing the cap out of loyalty for their help early in his career even though he could get better sponsors. The bank folded a year after Ayrton's death. Respect to Ayrton for sticking up with those who helped him first.
@tight_cicada
@tight_cicada 2 жыл бұрын
That is brand loyalty
@madkhaliqfarhan
@madkhaliqfarhan 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Malaysia's #1 bank, BSN (Bank Simpanan Nasional) gives me a seat in F1 someday...
@tight_cicada
@tight_cicada 2 жыл бұрын
@@madkhaliqfarhan i wish that the Sparkasse wiuld finance my ADAC F4 appearance
@SmileyXY
@SmileyXY 2 жыл бұрын
@@tight_cicada let's ask them together if they're willing to found an entire new team for us! xD
@vickywitvicky
@vickywitvicky 2 жыл бұрын
That is why he is successful
@christopherbudd7242
@christopherbudd7242 2 жыл бұрын
The first one that came to mind was Lauda
@Tudory
@Tudory 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@nassermansour5706
@nassermansour5706 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@shrimp3487
@shrimp3487 2 жыл бұрын
I learned this from watching Rush
@thesnackbandit
@thesnackbandit 2 жыл бұрын
Yh he was good
@Applejuice8137
@Applejuice8137 2 жыл бұрын
And also blackmail
@ScotchPolo
@ScotchPolo 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised there wasn't a mention about Sir Jackie Stewart, considering the family links to Ford dealerships and how he got into F1. I've always said paid drivers keep F1 afloat, it's just that the few that become successful, don't get tarnished with the 'pay driver' stigma like the not so successful ones
@arthuralford
@arthuralford 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, no. Jackie Stewart got into F1 after turning down two offers-from Cooper and Lotus-because he didn't think he was ready. He joined BRM in 1965 to partner Graham Hill. Stewart's connections to Ford came about when he was with Tyrrell, often appearing in adverts and doing personal appearances. The relationship continued even after he retired, and when Stewart decided to take his son Paul's junior team up to F1, he went to Ford for backing
@andrewlipsiner9791
@andrewlipsiner9791 2 жыл бұрын
Sir Jackie Stewart 🏁🏆🍾🏁🏆🍾🏁🏆🍾....had a solid offer from Ferrari for 1968 JYS talked with Ken Tyrrell about the deal . He asked JYS would he consider driving for him If he could provide him with a competitive car . JYS he would if KT could match Ferrari 's offer Ken put a call to Walter Hayes FORD Europe. Not only would FORD pay JYS retainer , they would supply Tyrrell with FREE Cosworth FORD engines to power MATRA F1 chassis that Ken would run in conjunction with MATRA with their V12 effort FREE engines from FORD FREE chassis from MATRA FREE Tyres from DUNLOP
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthuralford hi Arthur Alford.
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlipsiner9791 MSC went from Paydriver into one of the greats is the one i remembered the most.
@GreekPele
@GreekPele 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he Drive for Brabaham and Lotus? That has nothing to do with Ford lmao
@bourkey07
@bourkey07 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's hard to compare pay drivers of different eras to those of today. However, it certainly does show just how hard it is to crack into F1.
@playezzRBLX
@playezzRBLX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah,I'm Ok With It
@hermann26
@hermann26 2 жыл бұрын
And then there is my love Esteban!
@IQmates
@IQmates 2 жыл бұрын
How is it hard to compare different eras?
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 2 жыл бұрын
There were plenty of useless pay drivers in every era of F1 so it's pretty easy to make a direct comparison between then and now
@rhyswilliams4893
@rhyswilliams4893 2 жыл бұрын
Every F1 driver needs decent financial backing these days.
@ro3521
@ro3521 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody is against pay drivers, but the sport got so expensive that practicly only drivers that come from a billionaire background can afford it, and a lot of good guys are out of a drive.
@dhupee
@dhupee 2 жыл бұрын
when the sports have machinery or tools or specialized equipment in it, it will get expensive depending on the price. From super known sports like football where you can play barefoot but need to have certain things like shoes to play pro at least in football academy(also not free), to Tennis where you obviously need Racket and Tennis Ball, heck even esports need pc which cost money. from a photo profile of you, you can go play karting(either rent or have one doesn't matter) where I cant afford to rent it, very expensive for me maybe not for you...it's relative, but at least I can afford wifi for college and my project where I can do some things around motorsports albeit not directly drive the car, where some people might don't have wifi or even school laptop this sucks sure but that is the reality, my take isn't perfect but it shows a bit why things are kinda unfair when the money involved
@erikheijden9828
@erikheijden9828 2 жыл бұрын
Racing has always been a rich man's hobby. Even the drivers from "poor" backgrounds were quite wealthy compared to an avarage Joe.
@null_spacex
@null_spacex 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of people are against pay drivers lol
@blargd
@blargd 2 жыл бұрын
What? Loads of people hate on pay drivers, just look at how much hate Stroll has had chucked at him for the last few years purely because he comes from a rich background.....
@PsihopatForRBrJohny
@PsihopatForRBrJohny 2 жыл бұрын
@@blargd not to mention Mazepin
@zulubunsen9067
@zulubunsen9067 2 жыл бұрын
Matt was almost on point calling Erste Österreichische "Bank number 1", I first thought he knew it meant "First Austrian". But Raiffeisen doesn't mean second, so I guess it was just a funny coincidence.
@ptztmm
@ptztmm 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised that Erste bank and Raiffeisen isn't more known
@zulubunsen9067
@zulubunsen9067 2 жыл бұрын
@@ptztmm For us in Hungary they're quite ubiquitous, but I'm guessing they don't have that much presence in the UK.
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know Raiffeisen Bank is a Bank outside of Germany. I grew up with it here in the Berchtesgadener Land but the maternal side of my family from near Frankfurt am Main in Hessen also were all having their Money at the Raiffeisen Bank, only in the past 10 years they went "away" around here Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the Bavarian Alps
@alexanderthegreat11
@alexanderthegreat11 2 жыл бұрын
@@chartreux1532 It‘s a Swiss bank. Me on the other hand didn‘t know that Raiffeisen was outside of Switzerland as well, as it‘s one of the smaller banks.
@zulubunsen9067
@zulubunsen9067 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderthegreat11 No, Raiffesien is originally Austrian, it just has subsidiaries in other countries as well.
@anirudhr6052
@anirudhr6052 2 жыл бұрын
F1 fans during checo's first f1 season : 'boo paid driver, boo' 10 years later : 'checo's a legend'
@benfrese3573
@benfrese3573 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly as it should be.
@tscheksn7403
@tscheksn7403 2 жыл бұрын
as an austrian the way you pronounced Sparkassa & Raiffeisen is absulutely hilarious 😂
@speed12gaming16
@speed12gaming16 2 жыл бұрын
Rush did an amazing job portraying Lauda’s finesse job at BRM. His negotiations were out of pure desperation
@DimitriMoreira
@DimitriMoreira 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Negotiation wise, you have to learn from Berger. Always the biggest salary, never the better driver.
@Dannyt754
@Dannyt754 2 жыл бұрын
It's so fun to hear Matt trying to say the banks names.
@nassermansour5706
@nassermansour5706 2 жыл бұрын
These Austrian bank names may are difficult for our British lad here but….. (Laughs in German)
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
As a german speaker, it's horrible.
@KomboAndy
@KomboAndy 2 жыл бұрын
Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache...
@julianlieb929
@julianlieb929 2 жыл бұрын
Just like he always botches both Schumacher's forename and surname, but that accounts for almost all native English-speaking people.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
@@julianlieb929 In fairness, British “Michael” is completely different to German “Michael”.
@NotSosigRamsey
@NotSosigRamsey 2 жыл бұрын
Mazepin is the next Senna confirmed
@vendanohac
@vendanohac 2 жыл бұрын
Schumacher is the next Schumacher confirmed.
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
@unfortunately_fortunate2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@vendanohac we'll see, Micks brother David was in F3 last year and did pretty well, who knows which one got the WDC genetics. could be neither, we'll have to wait and see if his brother makes it into F1. which brings up another point, where would his brother go? williams then mercedes? 'cause I cant see Ferrari actually having two Schumachers in the same team.
@vendanohac
@vendanohac 2 жыл бұрын
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 David isn't Micks brother, he is his cousin. David is son of Ralf Schumacher. To be honest I don't see him coming to F1. He would have to show incredible talent, given the current competition and the policy of paid drivers, which are preferred before the F2 champions, only because the money. But we will see. I can imagine him going to McLaren. Because I think Ricciardo will be there maybe for his last season or two and I don't see Pato O'Ward joining F1 McLaren team either. All is posible, maybe we will see two Schumachers being rivals to each others in Ferrari and McLaren car. And we must also consider possibility of Andretti F1 team, or Audi, or Porsche joining F1 grid.
@Alecasand
@Alecasand 2 жыл бұрын
So glad that clown ever gonna be in F1 again
@GrenYT
@GrenYT 2 жыл бұрын
Aged very well
@Mr.Goldbar
@Mr.Goldbar 2 жыл бұрын
And this video is why I appreciate pay drivers. Without them the sport would not survive.
@mico6155
@mico6155 2 жыл бұрын
There's a massive difference between having sponsors believe in you because you show talent, and having a billionaire dad paying for literally anything you ask...
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this comment might be targeted at Mazepin and Latifi and whilst they're taking away seats from more talented drivers, they're certainly no bums if you look at their junior careers and are levels above the awful pay drivers of the 80s and 90s. Back then bottom end teams would take just about anyone with cash.
@jonbell9835
@jonbell9835 2 жыл бұрын
let's think about it, both Schumachers paid to get in and one was the best driver ever so let's see what happens
@patricktho6546
@patricktho6546 2 жыл бұрын
but only for their first races. Not seasons
@lbonkzzl5787
@lbonkzzl5787 2 жыл бұрын
Lauda is also good
@thesnackbandit
@thesnackbandit 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Mick didn't pay to get in, but the name did certainly help. He did win the f2 championship albeit in a weak field.
@lucatarolli7950
@lucatarolli7950 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesnackbandit you could say that Mick is actually a pay driver, since it's Ferrari who is paying for his Haas seat, and he's not getting any money from the team he races for.
@robh9577
@robh9577 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucatarolli7950 and does Lewis being sponsored from 12yrs on by McLaren/Mercedes make him a pay driver?
@shemohda
@shemohda 2 жыл бұрын
"not bad for a number 2 driver" that reference 🔥
@reinicieoseupc
@reinicieoseupc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing the story of how Senna got to F1... Many Brazilians don't know Senna's past... they think he got to F1, just with his skills... which is partly true... Unfortunately, the Brazilian media does not disclose the origin of several drivers, for example: Senna, Piquet or Fittipaldi... these families had, or still have, good political relations... and they were always rich families or with some influence.
@tnightwolf
@tnightwolf 2 жыл бұрын
True, but there is no denying the man is one of the very best drivers in F1 history.
@DimitriMoreira
@DimitriMoreira 2 жыл бұрын
Every brazilian knows that. It's very well regarded the financial backing of Senna and Fittipaldi. I don't know what you're talking about. Piquet however is an exception. He sold his sister's car just to pay for the flight to England. He did NOT come from wealthy family. He worked at a car repair shop from 15 to 17 years old. He may have been the son of a politician, but he cut ties with his family long before going to F1. And if you think Lauda had to risk his life and pay 100k pounds in the early 70's, the 10k pounds Senna had to pay in the early 80's are nothing. Senna did manage to make it on his own, as everyone in this list did.
@DimitriMoreira
@DimitriMoreira 2 жыл бұрын
@@tnightwolf he's the real goat. He's the goat to other goats. Like Alonso, Schumacher and Hamilton. If you're the GOAT's GOAT, then you can't be more GOAT than that.
@tnightwolf
@tnightwolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@DimitriMoreira All i'm saying is that some people might act as if, to even nowadays become a F1 driver, you can actually come from a poor family and just do Kart as you please... meanwhile a random team like Renault will just pick you up and make you their driver! XD At no point in Car Racing History (unless you where an engineering genius, have rich friends or are a conman) has anyone ever made pro coming from a poor family. The fact that it involves a competitive-car should make it a no-brainer argument... just saying... You might not like it, but when it comes to any kind of car-racing (apart some very few exceptions) it is nothing more than a mixture of wealth, skill and luck. Ofc, if you don't have talent, then it doesn't really mater how rich you are when it comes to competitive play. The point i'm trying to do (and i think you agree with it, but the way you phrased it first was just awkward to me... me being Tuga XD) is that despite the luck that Senna had being born into a rich family, imo, it doesn't detract a bit from his talent! To this day he is still the GOAT for me, simply for what he showed me in the track.
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
@unfortunately_fortunate2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@DimitriMoreira true they may have had the financial backing but they all figured out ways to market and advertise themselves right into that pool full of cash, never thought about it like that. good point.
@yellowflag9945
@yellowflag9945 2 жыл бұрын
just so you know, the Ö is pronouced the same way as the noise alonso makes when he thinks of the 2015-17 f1 seasons
@UKDarkPredator
@UKDarkPredator 2 жыл бұрын
Latifi is still amazing. Got the whole TeamLH on ropes
@KitKitChanIsaac
@KitKitChanIsaac 2 жыл бұрын
Goatifi is the best
@rahulravishankar3152
@rahulravishankar3152 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you really think Hamilton's bad because he won a lot ? Latifi crashing and giving Max the win gave him death threats from Hamilton fans. If Latifi crashed and gave the win to Lewis instead, Max fans would have killed him by now and you know it.
@rahulravishankar3152
@rahulravishankar3152 2 жыл бұрын
@Jamie Mels There's no need for me to. I could sit here and parrot everything that has been said before "Masi gave Max the win", "It's Lewis's win, Max can only win with bent rules" etc., I'm not gonna though because there's no point. You lot got your win, and now are on your high horse looking down on Lewis fans and honestly, I'd rather not be involved in this clusterfuck. All we can do is hope 2022 gives us a fair fight and that we can come to a reasonable agreement no matter who wins (Personally want Leclerc to win but we'll see).
@thatlazguy
@thatlazguy 2 жыл бұрын
@Jamie Mels lol
@UKDarkPredator
@UKDarkPredator 2 жыл бұрын
@@rahulravishankar3152 Yes
@gandalf_thegrey
@gandalf_thegrey 2 жыл бұрын
4:12 I know the story but every time I listen to Laudas plans back in the days I'm just impressed 1. how convinced he was in his talent and 2. what a madlad he was coming to financials
@thecompanioncube4211
@thecompanioncube4211 Жыл бұрын
Bloke was smart On-track, In the garage and also in accounts
@BlackFantasy470
@BlackFantasy470 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about the Schumacher Mercedes deal as well as Perez but the others I wasn't aware of. Thing is, back in the 80s and early to mid 90s there were so much more teams in F1. Those small teams even needed the money from pay drivers to survive. Today with only ten teams and so much more drivers available it sometimes feels unfair if a pay driver is chosen over talent. Question still remains if it would be better to have only talented drivers in only ten teams or have 12 or 13 teams with pay drivers? As much as I'd like to see a bigger grid again I'm not sure if the latter would be a better solution.
@CarlosdCover
@CarlosdCover 2 жыл бұрын
People love controversy, and F1 is called a circus for something... Other wise this will turn something like Indy car.
@bishyeahbish3758
@bishyeahbish3758 2 жыл бұрын
*so MANY more Not so MUCH more You're welcome 👍🏼
@pflaffik
@pflaffik 2 жыл бұрын
Todays drivers have powerful financial backing. Norris and Hulkenberg are very much pay drivers, billionaire families. Albon is backed by big money but now less than before so he can only afford to drive a Williams now. How much is talent and how much is money nowadays is easy to answer, its mostly money.
@Synapse835
@Synapse835 2 жыл бұрын
Giancarlo Fisichella deserves a mention. Only got his seat at minardi due to his Italian tobacco money, but turned out to be a decent driver
@DimitriMoreira
@DimitriMoreira 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't. I like Fisico, but the honorable mentions are pretty decent drivers. Fisico isn't in the same league.
@Synapse835
@Synapse835 2 жыл бұрын
@@DimitriMoreira Jenson Button described him as the best driver at getting results out of terrible cars. He got several podiums out of the '97 Jordan and the Benetton cars from 1998 to 2001, all of which were pretty mediocre cars let's be honest.
@GabGotti3
@GabGotti3 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sucks that this sport is only for the rich. Imagine how many great drivers go unnoticed.
@dmdevroomen6629
@dmdevroomen6629 2 жыл бұрын
The 1981 Senna deal was 100.000 if I’m right. Fun fact: the team owner of one of the junior teams he joined was joking with him after a race before he joined them he’d give him a seat for free if he wants. Senna than went to him in the end of ‘82 to join them for the 1983 season for free. In the end he had to pay for the seat, but still way less than you’d pay for the seat usually.
@christianorsa
@christianorsa 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Lauda was a real finance guru
@chazchaos7897
@chazchaos7897 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew Ayrton Senna payed for his seat!
@therrydicule
@therrydicule 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, he was... He had a personal sponsor he was using to pay at Toleman. But, they are nuances between pay drivers.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 But Senna presumably had made a deal in his contract with Lotus/McLaren/WIlliams for image rights. Hence why the logo could appear on his overall and caps.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 I’m not talking about the cars. The teams design the fireproof overalls. So presumably there was something in their respective driver contracts to allow Senna (and other drivers where applicable) to add their own sponsor logos. Off-topic to the discussion of “pay drivers”, it’s just a topic where I’m wondering if anyone has any further insight.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
Missed the fact that Lauda is the only driver to win championships for both Ferrari and McLaren.
@oofer1278
@oofer1278 2 жыл бұрын
prost almost did it
@Arthuurtje28
@Arthuurtje28 2 жыл бұрын
Could you also make a video of the drivers who got in F1 without a wealthy background? That would be interesting as well.
@ntl9974
@ntl9974 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@kingduffi9999
@kingduffi9999 2 жыл бұрын
You actually translated the Erste österreichische Bank quite well, as it literally means First Bank of Austria :D
@partington19
@partington19 2 жыл бұрын
I may get destroyed in the comments for this but the first one I thought of was lando Norris, although he is a great driver he did pay his way though junior categories. He did get into F1 on merit however
@JustinW2980
@JustinW2980 2 жыл бұрын
For me the question has always been. Does he deserve to be on the grid? The answer is of course, let’s find out. Of course not everyone gets the ‘fair shot’ and that’s where the arguments come in. Most drivers that get a seat deserve two seasons to prove themselves in my opinion although Nikita was so bad last year which tests that policy.
@nikolaypanayotov2995
@nikolaypanayotov2995 2 жыл бұрын
So many "the office" memes in a video about f1, love it!
@HootMaRoot
@HootMaRoot 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, showing all the newer f1 fans some of the best pay drivers, I bet a video on the not so good f1 pay drivers over the last 30 years would have to be split into 3 videos as there has been many of them
@andrewlipsiner9791
@andrewlipsiner9791 2 жыл бұрын
Actually.. Alain Prost ..was briefly retired when he took off end of 1991 season and entire 1992 season after getting FIRED from Ferrari end of 1991. He then came out of that brief retirement to drive for Williams 1993. He WON his 4th World Drivers Championship ..and retired for good when Senna was signed for 1994
@CaseSet236
@CaseSet236 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I would call it retirement, it was mostly that he couldn't find a team worth his time
@puuoyevigannogreven8781
@puuoyevigannogreven8781 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaseSet236 from what i have heard, from 1994, Senna could join a team where prost was, ie his teammate, so he retired
@CaseSet236
@CaseSet236 2 жыл бұрын
@@puuoyevigannogreven8781 yes that is correct.
@andrewlipsiner9791
@andrewlipsiner9791 2 жыл бұрын
Yep.....Alain Prost signed a 2 year deal for 1993 and 1994 season. When Prost heard that Frank Williams had signed Senna to a NEW multiyear deal , Prost asked William's to buy him out of his last year contract Alain ABSOLUTELY refused to be teammates again with Senna after what took place at McLaren..
@keithrichards4296
@keithrichards4296 2 жыл бұрын
Even a monkey would be a champ with that car
@IQmates
@IQmates 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very bold video and thank you for creating it. I’d bet even Lance appreciates this!
@IQmates
@IQmates 2 жыл бұрын
The challenges Niki Lauda faced make sense for some like Lewis Hamilton. One more reason why Lewis was attached to him through their conversations.
@80nodrog
@80nodrog 2 жыл бұрын
"Not bad for a number 2 driver" nice work sliding that quote in there.
@carlosa1811
@carlosa1811 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the editions! Thanks
@Refon94
@Refon94 2 жыл бұрын
I lost it so badly at that "not bad for a number 2 driver" in the end
@Anriandor
@Anriandor 2 жыл бұрын
2:52 didn't expect that one could butcher the Austrian savings bank like that lel
@benn8793
@benn8793 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Schumacher helped out a lot at the karting track in Kerpen during his go-karting days to pay back the karting club that supported him. He later trained as a car mechanic. In return, his instructor Willi Bergmeister supported him a little. A little later, Willi Weber and Mercedes came into the picture.
@creamage.
@creamage. 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely love all the Star Wars gifs and pics you use
@mxwillemvdnoort5299
@mxwillemvdnoort5299 2 жыл бұрын
This easely could have been a video of some of the 🐐🐐
@imblack011
@imblack011 2 жыл бұрын
first one that came to mind was checo
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 2 жыл бұрын
Even Hamilton an Verstappen are "Pay Drivers" Without the backup of Mercedes and Red Bull throughout their career they may not even bee in F1. IMO this shouldnt even be a thing to discuss because F1 always have been a rich ppl sport.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
Vettel with Red Bull, Schumacher with Mercedes. The point is that they were all supported by companies with active & ongoing involvement in motorsport.
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 2 жыл бұрын
I think it doesnt matter if companie or privat person. If you give your money to someone you expect to get it back o e way or another.
@bfapple
@bfapple 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesunnynationg No, my point is that Mercedes and Red Bull were already involved in motorsport before they backed Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen. Which is different to companies like Telmex or Mazepin’s company, which specifically came into single seaters to sponsor the one (or two) drivers.
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 2 жыл бұрын
@@bfapple oh... my bad Yes there is a difference
@vegetsofray9163
@vegetsofray9163 2 жыл бұрын
Thats different tho, they are supported because of their talent, hamilton got that sponsorship at 12 because he was extremely skilled unlike someone like latifi and mazepin who had go buy their ways into a seat.
@vgrin7307
@vgrin7307 2 жыл бұрын
Matt's pronunciations of the Austrian banks are hilarious 😂
@emmaceleste_
@emmaceleste_ 2 жыл бұрын
This list should have included Lance Stroll. I mean, he’s like the definitive pay driver but He’s also a race winner. Edit: This aged poorly. This aged so poorly. Wtf Y’all 😂
@arthuralford
@arthuralford 2 жыл бұрын
But not in F1
@jgagnier
@jgagnier 2 жыл бұрын
Not a race winner (yet). He had two opportunities to win a race. Once, as a pole sitter on the slippiest track I remember seeing (Turkey 2020), he managed to keep everyone at bay... until his pit strategy backfired. Still, that weekend showed how despite being a pay driver, there's no way he's not deserving of an F1 seat, and under difficult track conditions, he's potentially a top 5 talent. The second time (Italy 2020), after lucking into a post red flag pole, he messed up his launch, leaving the door open for a Gasly win.
@emmaceleste_
@emmaceleste_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgagnier you’re right I misremembered his poles as wins. I still think he’s underrated just cause he’s a pay driver but I was wrong lol
@dhupee
@dhupee 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgagnier he might forgot what time is it, he should check his time machine once again Mate, he gave us a spoiler
@simonbrunner3062
@simonbrunner3062 2 жыл бұрын
Also should've won Sakhir, all he needed to do was overtake Ocon before his team mate came all the way from the back of the grid to show him how it's done. You could say he deserves his midfield F1 seat (the same way Giovinazzi would have deserved it for another year), but let's face it, if his dad wasn't running the team, Stroll would have gotten the boot when they hired Vettel. And he certainly wouldn't have been on Red Bull's shortlist to replace Albon.
@stevenlorcher-bond6897
@stevenlorcher-bond6897 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that first bank for Lauda literally translates to “the first Austrian “ so first bank isn’t far off😂
@kinangeagle133
@kinangeagle133 2 жыл бұрын
One essay from 10th grade and another for 11th grade were about how being a may driver doesn’t define your whole career. I used Lauda, Schumi, Lando, and Perez’s defending to make it really easy for me to defend pay drivers.
@FrittenFriseurLPs
@FrittenFriseurLPs 2 жыл бұрын
You did a really good Job on the Sparkasse. Also inspired by your Video from Hockenheim i visit the Track or whats left of It. Was amazing
@DaniMacYo
@DaniMacYo 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at the Schumacher Thumbnail. ❤️
@snorbert3568
@snorbert3568 2 жыл бұрын
Lauda wasn't the only one. Prost became champion in 1993 after his 1992 retirement.
@reisanibal1
@reisanibal1 2 жыл бұрын
92 was not a retirement for Prost. He was simply out of a seat after getting sacked by Ferrari.
@Marceloloeite
@Marceloloeite 2 жыл бұрын
One day Hakkinen will come back and win again
@srxt6758
@srxt6758 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marceloloeite he needs to beat Jamie Chadwick first...
@madkhaliqfarhan
@madkhaliqfarhan 2 жыл бұрын
Alex Albon too!
@MattBakerDrums
@MattBakerDrums 2 жыл бұрын
11:29 Rubens looks good as a Kimi impersonator!
@ron.25
@ron.25 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't resist that sweet invite to follow. What nice
@jacobrev6567
@jacobrev6567 2 жыл бұрын
This is best video i watch thanks wtf 1
@flintstone1409
@flintstone1409 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree that you count as "pay driver" if you get paid by a sponsor. In the end its always the driver or the team who has sponsors, but having sponsors means that you are good enough that someone believes in your skill. Who should count as a pay driver is someone whos family pays for their kids, like Mazepin and afaik Latifi and I think still also Stroll.
@lilnotmaster6094
@lilnotmaster6094 2 жыл бұрын
Well, a lot of Niki's own money went into F1 as well as his fathers. He isn't handed money like people think he does, a lot if his money is smart investments. In his own words to me "Invest in medical and technology stocks. Its the future, and will get you very far"
@andrearojas1248
@andrearojas1248 2 жыл бұрын
Gerhard Berger. He only got into F1 and his seats 1984, 1985 and 1986 with BMW support and in 1989 he was the first ever Driver of the Red Bull sponsorship program. He went on to win 10 Races and one of the top five drivers for over a decade.
@michaelhorton7033
@michaelhorton7033 2 жыл бұрын
"the car was astronomically bad..." ***Shows 2021 Haas.. Cheeeeeeeky Matt. 😂
@CharlesTYK97
@CharlesTYK97 2 жыл бұрын
You should put Jenson's face when you mentioned Button. 😂
@robgraham5016
@robgraham5016 2 жыл бұрын
What about Mansell? He mortgaged his house for a seat!
@garethjohnson8579
@garethjohnson8579 2 жыл бұрын
That was for f3000 not F1.
@guilhermejales
@guilhermejales 2 жыл бұрын
About Senna, just leaving a quick note, he never raced in junior series in Brazil. He went straight from Karting in Brazil to Formula Ford in UK
@markputeminthedarkjones3117
@markputeminthedarkjones3117 2 жыл бұрын
3:53 The Haas in the background while he's saying that lmao
@PlittHD
@PlittHD 2 жыл бұрын
1:18 The Sponsor on the car, Autohaus Paul Korn Koblenz is actually a quite loved car Dealership with a great repairshop that was quite loved in the "VW Van" community pre 2000 Rip Mr. Paul Korn (2005)
@aaronbowker5984
@aaronbowker5984 2 жыл бұрын
5:14 didn’t Prost come out of retirement and win the title as well?
@tiadaid
@tiadaid 2 жыл бұрын
No, he was on a sabbatical
@madkhaliqfarhan
@madkhaliqfarhan 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiadaid If that's the case, Alex Albon should become the World Champion this year!
@andrearojas1248
@andrearojas1248 2 жыл бұрын
Prost never said he retired after being fired by Ferrari end of 1991. 1992 he tested Ligier-Renault but withdraw his plans to race for them as he knew that car sucked. Shortly after he signed the contract with Williams for 1993 in spring 1992 already.
@HarmonicVector
@HarmonicVector 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you immediately belt out Senna to help showcase that not every paid driver is like Mazepin, because that's where people usually say that paid drivers are trash.
@lilnotmaster6094
@lilnotmaster6094 2 жыл бұрын
His car is very trash, and on top of that, as someone who knows him on a personal level, rather than people who don't, and just make unnecessary comments, a lot of the money he spends is his. He helped Urakrali grow, he invests in other places, and on top of that, he is a very caring giver to those who need. Despite his controversial situation with the prosti- I mean woman, he really isn't that trash of a person. But when we spoke, he also said that the car was very bottom heavy, causing tailspins, and his car felt very unaligned . but as far as his cash, even tho Dmitry has a big part to play, a lot of Niki's own money went into that
@ayaanrashadmustakim3498
@ayaanrashadmustakim3498 2 жыл бұрын
12:37 was cheeky, I must admit.
@jeromecarlson9144
@jeromecarlson9144 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle's best friend was Banco Nacional's F1 representative and lived with Ayrton for a number of years while he sponsored them
@DarioDarrow
@DarioDarrow 2 жыл бұрын
8:25 "Tarso Marks" 😆
@dom_wings
@dom_wings 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhat surprised that Pedro Diniz was not on this list. Sure thing he never won a race or even got a podium, but when compared to the breed of drivers who paid substantial money (we're talking millions of pounds over the 6 years, sources stated the sponsorship he took to Arrows in 1997 was worth $13 million) to get an F1 seat he still held his own quite well. Especially during the era where he began racing in the mid-1990s where other pay drivers included Lavaggi or Délétraz Sr. Basically, Diniz also deserves to get a mention even though to younger fans he may perhaps be classified as something of an obscure racing driver.
@noahhayer4691
@noahhayer4691 2 жыл бұрын
The "Österreichische Spar-Cassa" killed me😂😂
@lukas2921
@lukas2921 2 жыл бұрын
As an Austrian it is so funny to hear your pronunciation haha
@niklasschneider4022
@niklasschneider4022 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@MarcM2509
@MarcM2509 2 жыл бұрын
As a native german speaker Niki laudas Part is really fun to watch 😂
@Marquinez360
@Marquinez360 2 жыл бұрын
I think Alonso had already signed for Minardi before they sold the contract rights to Briatore/Renault. He won a test for Minardi as prize for the 1999 Open By Nissan Championship and they were immediately impressed by his speed so they wanted to signed him right away
@rumblefish9
@rumblefish9 2 жыл бұрын
He won the test but the Minardi seat was paid not by Briatore but by Adrián Campos (a forer Spanish F1 driver) who managed Alonso at that time. Campos was also a former Minardi driver.
@mcn1157
@mcn1157 2 жыл бұрын
f1 was a very serious sport back in the days... the risk of death of was very high. pay drivers back then were talented drivers who wanted to risk it all... nowadays paydrivers are just some kids whose dads were interested in f1.
@tygobermind3640
@tygobermind3640 2 жыл бұрын
No it's actually the other way around. Today it's much harder for a pay driver to get in F1. Back in the 70/60's literally anyone who could buy a car could join the race and finish 5 laps down on the rest.
@thesnackbandit
@thesnackbandit 2 жыл бұрын
Lance Stroll will surely find himself on a list such as this. Superb driver.
@sergeygeorgiy9154
@sergeygeorgiy9154 2 жыл бұрын
Stroll is criminally underrated. Should have gotten 5 podiums and a win already. His race battles against Alonso last season were joy to watch
@sebastianflores9656
@sebastianflores9656 2 жыл бұрын
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 a win???
@sergeygeorgiy9154
@sergeygeorgiy9154 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianflores9656 absolutely. Do you not know the Turkey race in 2020 when he led almost the entire race and pulled a 10 second gap to Perez behind until he experienced tyre graining?
@thesnackbandit
@thesnackbandit 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianflores9656 Turkey 2020 was screwed up for him by some questionable strategy and tires that had graining much quicker than anyone else's. On pace alone he should have won that race quite comfortably.
@simonbrunner3062
@simonbrunner3062 2 жыл бұрын
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 You don't think the tyre graining had something to do with him pulling that gap in the first place? Or rather, Perez allowing him to pull that gap had something to do with Perez' tyres remaining in better shape? Stroll was standing in Perez' way and backed him into Hamilton's clutches when they eventually called him into the pits. That pitstop was overdue. A win was never really on the cards in that race. He should however have won both Monza and Sakhir that year. In Monza he was virtually on pole for the restart (second behind Hamilton who already got the penalty) thanks to incredible luck with strategy and the timing of the red flag. But he gave it all away with a horrible first lap. In Sakhir, he had about half the race to find a way past Ocon and get himself in the prime position to benefit of Mercedes' pitstop blunder. But instead, he eventually outbraked himself, had to let his team mate Perez by who had come ALL THE WAY from the back of the grid, only for Perez to show him how it's done within two laps. Stroll is not bad, but if he was something truly special, like the drivers on this list, he would've won at least one of those races.
@holloway6662
@holloway6662 2 жыл бұрын
now Ayrton listen.. everything you're feeling is perfectly natural. haha his dad looks like Eugene levy
@castiglionianstallon
@castiglionianstallon 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: erste Bank actually means bank number 1
@dj9959
@dj9959 2 жыл бұрын
This video was desperately needed, plenty of people forget that the path to becoming a pro racing driver is extremely expensive; in other words every driver in F1 and other categories have paid for their way in.
@cagr7605
@cagr7605 2 жыл бұрын
Some comment : Österreichische Sparkasse, which Matt had difficulty to say,is literally Austrian Piggybank in German.They were mainly operating savings accounts for Austrians in 70's with Austrian Schilling as national currency.
@homeperson11244
@homeperson11244 2 жыл бұрын
I think when we talk about pay driver, Nikita Mazepin was a curious case of it. Seemingly, he's not that a genuine championship contender that everyone wanted. But his junior career is pretty decent. In his first and only season, he managed to finished 3rd in GP3. He went on to F2 later on 2019, however his first season with ART was somewhat dreadful. Finished in bottom with him only finished higher than Tatiana Calderon and...Lord Mahaveer. Still tho, he was still showing some promised that year. At a test at Catalunya that year, driving the Mercedes W10, Mazepin manage to break the lap record of the track at some point before finished behind Valtteri Bottas by 2 tenths off. For a guy that never drive the car that was such OP (i mean racing point literally tracing that car for 2020 and went on having impressive results as well) that was impressive. And then 2020 happened. This is where the turning point for Mazepin came in where he drive for Hitech. Driving a team that had little to none experience in F2, and with abysmal performance season before, you would thought Mazepin would finish dead last and retire his racing dreams. Mazepin went on to take 2 fastest lap and 2 win before settling down for 5th in the standings and his team 4th in teams championship. Infact, Mazepin actually competes for 3rd that season before some excursions happened at Bahrain forced him to finished 5th in the standings. That was really impressive, for a guy that was basically dead last driving a less experienced team to get such a result. Compare to Latifi and Zhou who i thought their career is more of a stagnant. Mazepin actually shows progressed that racing driver rarely has. Sure, and the end of the day. He was just daddy's little boy, and a douchebag whether you view him from woman stand point or not. But his career is something that people seems to forget, and his kinda a few rare pay driver that actually worth signed (The other was Lance Stroll in that regard, i mean who wouldn't sign a kid that was purely dominating F3 by almost 50 points and pays you back?). And you can't judge his career from his Haas career, that car is as good as a ford Pinto. I'd say let's see his progress in next couple of season if we want to consider him as failure or not.
@lilnotmaster6094
@lilnotmaster6094 2 жыл бұрын
Well, first off, it was one woman, and he was drunk, so you can't hold that against him too much, especially if the girl is enjoying it at first, only to change later. But yet.. People will exaggerate what happened
@lilnotmaster6094
@lilnotmaster6094 2 жыл бұрын
On a second note, as someone who knows Niki on a personal level (I'm not his best friend, but we do speak. And we do conversate on midly deep stuff from time to time) he actually isn't all that spoiled as people who never knew him make him out to seem. A lot of the money he has wasn't given to him, as he helped with his father's company grow, he does invest his money is places, and he is a kind giver. Despite the "spoiled brat" hate he gets, a lot of his money he gets from investing it into stocks, and other businesses. So, yea..
@lilnotmaster6094
@lilnotmaster6094 2 жыл бұрын
Also, not all women hate him. But hey have exaggerated the truth saying "he grap3d a child" when the woman was 21, and he nevr grape is very extreme. I've seen what they say in the twitter, it is very toxic, and very sad to see
@homeperson11244
@homeperson11244 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilnotmaster6094 Now i want to make a statement that term "Daddy's little boy" is not just associate with Mazepin. Drivers such as Stroll, Latifi, even both Lando Norris and Lewis Hamilton could be consider as Daddy's little boy. Sure, the story of Lewis Hamilton's dad funding him was one of the most touching story in F1, but do you think Dmitri Mazepin didn't do the same to Nikita? Building a gas company into one of the largest gas company in the world is not an easy task. I think i agree people are over exaggerating stuff that didn't needs to. People bash Mazepin's father company just because Russia cut the gas pipe bringing it's price into bubble. Or when haas launch it's russian livery people were salty. Yeah, they could had better livery, but don't people had other things to care about aside livery? Like how it would be competitive? Mazepin actually proved that if he wants to be competitive, he needs to be within the team that could support him. tbh don't exactly think Mick would act as a good teammate, i think they should stick to either Grosjean or Magnussen last year and let one of the seat being filled by either Schumi or Mazepin.
@lilnotmaster6094
@lilnotmaster6094 2 жыл бұрын
@@homeperson11244 I think Dmitry is a bit more protective of him due to his lack of relationship with his mom. I won't say much, but I noticed he acted a certain way when I asked about his mom
@gabrieldecker
@gabrieldecker 2 жыл бұрын
As a German speaker, it is very funny how Matt pronounced "Bank number 1 & 2 of Laudas Sponsors 😂
@josezandy2802
@josezandy2802 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting Ayrton ngl
@play_er9092
@play_er9092 Жыл бұрын
Giancarlo Baghetti is one of My favorite pay drivers, because he managed to pay his way into Ferrari and Win his debut Race. Not bad for a pay driver
@lastofalmeida3624
@lastofalmeida3624 2 жыл бұрын
"But dad, im speed KACHOW" AHAHAHAHAHAH
@babangnyoi
@babangnyoi 2 жыл бұрын
How can you forget our 21, 22, 23, 24 world champion, Lance stroll?
@ByNato
@ByNato 2 жыл бұрын
you can add Nigel Mansell who hadf support from John Player & Sons.
@numberonepaperclip8
@numberonepaperclip8 2 жыл бұрын
I’m fine with someone paying there way bc they have talent. It is when some pays there way and they don’t have the talent that’s when they need to be dropped.
@pocketdynamo5787
@pocketdynamo5787 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to pay drivers, I only thought about the likes of Paul Belmondo, Olivier Beretta, Taki Inoue, Pedro Diniz, Ricardo Rosset, Gaston Mazzacane, Alex Yoong, who were actually pretty terrible. Thanks for bringing these cases to my attention, too!
@leviepworth4494
@leviepworth4494 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see that massive spin didn't make the list
@spinni5767
@spinni5767 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yes die österreichische Sparkasse xD love how you tried to pronounce that xD
@LiamTalksMotorsport
@LiamTalksMotorsport 2 жыл бұрын
Another one would be Stirling Moss!
@danielfruhauf5304
@danielfruhauf5304 2 жыл бұрын
As an Austrian hearing you struggle with the names of the banks is so damn hilarious. Btw it's just "Sparkasse" and "Raiffeisen" since "Österreichische" just means "Austrian".
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Schumacher got paid in 1991 to one of the F1 GOATS is the one i remembered the best.
@Corvin152
@Corvin152 2 жыл бұрын
Niki Lauda was like a finacial genius who raced xD
@lupo3694
@lupo3694 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, although I have to say as an Austrian, the funniest part was when you tried to pronanciate the Austrian banks. Not too bad.
@misterwong1337
@misterwong1337 2 жыл бұрын
Pure fun as a german how you pronounce the several banks
@edalvarez8901
@edalvarez8901 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how much talent there is that simply can’t afford F1? Are Senna, Vettel, Schumacher, Hamilton, Lauda, Piquet, Alonso, etc. even that good compared to the talent that just simply can’t afford to even compete in a go kart? 🤔 no offense to those guys by the way! I love all of them!
@Ibulek
@Ibulek 2 жыл бұрын
We can say that Lando is pay driver too, and I think he is doing pretty well
@Zerousesunscreen
@Zerousesunscreen Жыл бұрын
“But dad, I am speed, kachow”-Ayrton Senna
@thesnackbandit
@thesnackbandit 2 жыл бұрын
Geez in hindsight Ayrton Senna should have probably taken up the family business.
@madkhaliqfarhan
@madkhaliqfarhan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so Ayrton Senna could become the President of Brazil today!
@connormccourt3098
@connormccourt3098 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Matt pronounce Minardi so satisfyingly?
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