you said SEVERAL words 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

In my opinion the early KZfaqrs really embraced their hair . I am talking Cipriana Quann, the Habby, Naturally High, What’s beneath the weave, igbocurls, sera2544….JOSTYLIN!!🫶🏾❤️ this was back in 2012

👌🏽👌🏽

I don’t think it’s ugly. Mine is just really difficult to manage.

I try to keep it like natural for these reasons but I don’t see the support

That part!

came here to say this! the multiple-steps that take few hours are to manipulate the natural hair into one of those "aspirational" styles.

Thank you

This part smh been saying it for years!

Talk about it!

That last sentence says it all ☝🏽

I don’t think anyone is comfortable with single strand knots. If you don’t brush through your hair every day your hair is not healthy. If you don’t get your hair trimmed every 6 to 8 weeks your hair is not healthy. When i wear my hair curly it is always brushed through and I keep it simple in a ponytail or high bun. Setting lotion is all you need, no edge control, LOC method. Just setting lotion and keeping your hair in the same hairstyle In other words brush it, put it up, and don’t touch it

@@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL ...❓️

@@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL Was the first paragraph sarcasm?

@@jidoorifalcon These are facts. Stop listening to KZfaqrs and listen to licensed cosmetologists

Apply that sentiment all across the board not just black women 😂

@@chayo4537 Other women are not her concern. Her community is her concern.

@@chayo4537 Let’s 😒 not overstate things. A couple of years back, a young cousin I was mentoring attempted to school me that ALL women of ALL races straighten their hair, every day. I casually made contact with my dozen or so female Asian acquaintances on FB, and every single one them confirmed that no, they do not straighten their hair.

​@@chayo4537white women, or WM get with asians for kids with thicker Asian hair? I've seen an half asian with baby fine textured hair which grew slow, and couldn't curl

Not scalp us LOL

my jaw drapped because its SO TRUE🤣

Lol true

😂😂😂😂 So freaking true! We have to reprogram as a people.

They do that for lots of stuff Like saying I love black girls and posting zendaya like she not a direct descendant of whiteness through her mom

wtf is zendayas natural hair anyway? isnt it just frizzy wavy hair?

you said the part no one wants to say out loud

I’ll admit, I’m a lazy natural so I don’t bother with “laid edges” either 😆

My entire life, edges have never been my thing.

I've wasted money on edge control that don't lay mine so I stopped bothering

The last part of that sentence was actually ridiculous. If someone wants to style their hair, why would their edges not be part of that? Depending on the style, the edges aren’t long enough to fit into it. It’s just simply framing. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I’m not exhausted though. I feel free. They’re choosing to make their hair more than just hair. Like every other race of woman, I wash condition use leave in and blowdry my hair. Sometimes I flat iron it. It’s not any more difficult than what the next woman has to do

Not me lol. I high key get so proud when I step into a bus to the subway with every women, including black, wearing straight hair to the floor and my fro is reaching for the heavens, an Afro pick is in there so I can always pick it out some more. I laugh and smh at Black women wearing those helmets of straight weave who dare to giggle at me. My father and mother praised my hair, my father said when it was getting bigger "you got that hair from me" with a big smile on his face. I will not let the self hatred of my skin folk rain on my parade. In fact, let the rain fall, free hydration from Mother Earth.

@@glowgoreFantastic attitude, instilled by fantastic parenting. You're a great example for women, young people, and men too. 👏👏👏

​@@glowgore PREACH! Tell it!

@@DOLCEKAYEXOTICALthat’s your experience Being a woman with 4c hair on the other hand…

I cut my permed hair, and went natural and people say I have great genes . While they don't see the trial and error , the arm work , broken combs , tears ,the prayers to God I now have the softest hair in my family and friend group. Moral of the story is work for the life you want ❤

@@kwanita 🤔 Softest hair? Great genes? What?

when I started to wear my natural hair journey the goal was to grow my type 4 hair to a length I was comfortable to wear it out with. 5 years later and my hair has probably grown maximum an inch 😅 and it’s still not at the length that I wanted it to be. So now I’m starting to realise that length may never be reached, and I should learn to love it at the length that it’s at 😅.

The movement is changing many peoples' attitudes toward natural hair but the overarching culture has not changed. Our current culture simply does not allow for the average person to take care of their natural hair the way they want to. It takes a lot of time, money, effort, and routine changes that aren't allotted in our society. I'm not very skilled in hair care and when I went natural right before college I would lose whole weekends to de-tangling, washing, drying, and styling my hair. Then I would wear it in these terrible braids (my poor skills, haha) that I felt like I had to coverup all the time until I could rock a braid out for a few days, then twist it up for a while, then rock a twist out for a few days. I have fluffy locs now and I love it. I wish I had done it sooner so I wouldn't have lost so much time and energy to wash weekend while in school.

@@honeyblue2902 Honestly, some of the things you stated were said about going natural in general. Some ppl thought society wasn't built for natural hair in general, but we as a group changed that, when we stopped buying relaxers. Honestly, if we all walked out the house with shrunken hair, people would just have to accept it, but yall aren't ready for that conversation yet, I guess🤷🏿‍♀️

teenage hairs loaded up with gel and swooped to high heaven

I had never even heard of baby hairs until the internet, and it also xlooked so silly on me anyways

hAHAHA you're so funny@@sigh_yuri

​@@marzipan2555youre not black

@@sigh_yuri The fact that people are either relaxing their edges or buying fakes edge weave to the corners of their foreheads is crazy to me.

THIS!! Also the names of hair products like saying “anti-frizz”, like our hair doesn’t naturally do that on its own and that is how natural Afro-textured hair is in general. Or “Curl definer or enhancer”…? I could care less about those things rather I care about having a moisturizer to both moisturize and style my hair which is simple. Paying attention to the names of brands will have you spending unnecessary money too. People try to act like thick natural hair is hard to take care of but it’s really not🤷🏾‍♀️(it’s only hard for people who hate their natural hair, don’t appreciate or like themselves, or doesn’t want to get to learn their hair by spending time styling it and embracing in it’s natural state rather than seeking outside/external opinions)

+1 ...and I HATE wigs.

Yeah 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Don’t overdo it, allow her to have protective hairstyles to protect and grow her natural hair

But many of you would only like it if it is not 4c and i have heard black males say they prefer wigs and weaves over natural hair. That is a problem right there....

this isn't about you, man.

OH MY WORD?!?!?! i just got shivers, chills, THE ICK reading all of that, your personal space has been ruthlessly violated 😫 and abt moisturizing your hair, the stylists in the description teach how to do that, they make haircare so simple and the techniques they use solve like 99% of hair problems

Hi, Fellow Nigerian living in Nigeria lol. I can relate a lot to what you’re saying. My hair texture is what they call 4c. I spent the last year living without braiding, cornrowing, wearing wigs or pressing my hair. I even wore my natural hair to a wedding! Honestly I discovered the solution is quite simple: Wash the hair, condition it and then style it (here you may use gel, mousse or hair lotion). The key to success with styling is trimming the ends every 2-3 months to decrease knots and tangles. Once you start to do this, detangling is much much easier. Trimming also can let your hair have a shape which for some may find it more “aesthetically pleasing”. I know how much hair products are in Nigeria but you don’t have to use products marketed towards natural hair. You can just use the regular stuff. Further more, embrace the shrinkage. I learned that once you consistently wash the hair and style it over time it becomes much easier to detangle and manage even when it shrinks. To be honest I learned most of my techniques from Afro Brazilian youtubers. They had a natural hair movement around the same time as the states but for them, their goal is to wear their hair out. They don’t have an extensive wig/weave and braid wearing culture as Africans and African Americans. For them braids and wigs are a treat or something different it try and not their regular hair style. They love to wear their hair out as fros etc. so much of their hair styling techniques is optimized for wash and go etc. I preferred their routines because they were more consistent and less time consuming than English speaking KZfaq. If you would like to see one of their videos I recommend Loquinablack or look up the words crespo 4c. The videos are in Portuguese but you can use subtitles. Again you don’t have to have access to their hair products, just understand the techniques they are using and you’ll be golden. Finally, many folks are being hard on themselves. Some of us have spent many years not getting to know our hair outside of extensions etc and when confronted with it, we get frustrated and say it’s too hard. Meanwhile we haven’t had our whole childhood to learn to do this and so now as adults, the threshold to give up is lower. So be patient with yourself! It takes times to reverse all the lack of moisture living constantly in extensions/braids does to one’s hair Good luck with your journey!

@@adiahauzor3381wow! Even though this reply wasn’t aimed at me this really encouraged me. Thank you for sharing. Getting braids soon and already dreading what I’m going to do with my hair once I take them out! Maybe this is something I can try.

​@@adiahauzor3381thank you for taking time to share. I'm going to look into your recommendations

It’s not so different in America with the unsolicited and backhanded comments both inside and outside. But keep your head up nonetheless ❤

Because of hair discrimination that occurred, some black people hate their natural hair.’

Heavy on the "I look hit" part. The amount of times I've heard that or seen that is crazy. Now I don't have 4abc hair, mine is more 3b/3c but I always adored my mothers 4b/4c fro she wore proudly. And when my friends say that nonsense, I'm like girl bye, you look fine or your fro's cute!. It's always genuine cuz it's literally your hair, why be ashamed that it's nor done? Now if it's a bit ashy then I might be like "girl, let's get some moisture rq lol" but it's the hair that God gave you. He didn't give you the bust down edged wig, he gave you your course fro and the higher the better!

4c always looks undone, and that's the problem . I think the 4b/4c is a curse.

​@@en7252lots of people with 4c hair don't know what they're doing, so they blame their hair texture. So I can understand if you think your hair is a curse but you can keep that energy else where.

@jasminer.6721 Nah, even when it's style up, it still looks "meh"

@@en7252You have a lot of self-hate. I wish you therapy and healing.

Yasss!

Yes be free!

this this this!!!!!!

There’s nothing wrong with keeping your hair stretched. The real questions are what phase of the hair growth cycle are you in, do you get your hair trimmed by a pro every 6 to 8 weeks, is your scalp clean and free of oil (not sebum) and are you retaining length

Good point. Personally, I’ve always loved “shrinkage.” When I want my hair shorter, there is no need to cut it. I just wear it in its most shrunken state. The versatility of natural hair is incredible.

i always thought this...like when something shrinks it's smaller than its supposed to be like with clothes etc. my hair is meant to coil up ("shrink") ??? it's not a burden or something that needs to be fixed😹🚶🏾‍♀️

Shrinkage is just the term to describe what happens when the curls tighten. You guys are taking terms that have no negative definitions, then adding them on, and judging other people for using them.

i stopped laying my edges years ago. insistence on controlling the hair does nothing but frustrate you. our hair isnt meant to be controlled like that and thats okay!!

The baby hair phenomenon is a far cry from what we did in the 90s which was literally water and a toothbrush. The shellacking of hair that isn’t even “baby hair” is a trip.

Right! I always thought laying baby hairs were messing with the legit hairs you have on you forehead already. Only water is needed to move them around. I have a bunch but I don’t really mess with them. People are styling the front part of their regular hair with finger waves onto their face and desperately trying to convince others it’s baby hair. No. Just no!

Same, and I even get dirty looks from other loc people. I get a retwist every 2-3 months and not exactly every 6 weeks. A lot of people with locs don't even like their hair because as soon as the new growth is showing, they run to hide it.

😂

when even this mindset is present in the countries of Africa you know it’s a sick generational curse. The brainwashing is present even in countries which are 99% black is crazy to me. But black people will fight tooth and nail that they only feel this way “just because” it’s no wonder we haven’t seen any progress with regards to things like this.

They're just bleached and brain washed ❤

As an African, so true. Can’t remember the last time i went to a salon cause i can’t take the back handed talks anymore

@@90ejbword

My African mom had the audacity to tell me that my 4c hair wasn’t the “right type” of hair to wear in its natural state. 🤦🏽‍♀️

Exactly! It's clear the big brands recruit certain ppl to sell their products. They be like "This $20 gel got my curls poppin!"...I'm like gurl shut up, your hair already looked like that. Bye! 😅

​@@sadlyresting the hard, bitter truth

thank you!!! i cant see it but i love yours too! ♥️♥️♥️

I’ll be a self hater than because I’m not wearing my natural hair. I won’t grow past a certain length. If it was long and resilient then I would definitely wear my 4C hair.

@@camille3083that’s sad

​@@camille3083some 4cs could grow bra strap hair..they just keep it stretched and take all day to wash it

@@camille3083have u tried 4c clip ins?

I don’t think this is off-topic at all. I honestly wish she would’ve mentioned how the primary reason why most black women and girls feel so insecure about their hair is that in addition to dealing with white supremacy and European standards, we have to face bullying, texturism, and extreme misogynoir from the men in our community.

I cannot deny your lived experience but I can say as a black man I have had the opposite thing happen. Many of us get called sassy, being in women's business, or controlling for expressing we don't like the wigs, weaves, eye lashes and long nails. When we express we like natural women we get shouted out and shamed. The current look of many black women like K. Michelle for instance is identical to transgender females. The wigs and weaves with the stupid baby hairs look comical.

i’ve never said this out loud, but this comment inspired me to. i want our community to get to the place where the phrase “natural hair” doesnt mean smth different for us than what it means for other ppl. the concept of “natural hair” as we know it, especially in relation to its opposite, only exists in our demographic. obviously ik the history behind that, but its called history for a reason.

Apparently we need the natural hair community to validate us too

We don't, but we come from a history of disenfranchisement from people invalidating us and denying us the resources needed for upward mobility and growth. A lot of Black people's sense of self-worth was poisoned because of this.

​​@@honeyblue2902 You want upward mobility from people but you don't care about their validation. You want the same from a husband too ? You get to chose the good looking generous one and he doesn't get to also have preferences ?

We don’t but black women who hate their hair need to shut up and keep it all to themselves. Other black women don’t want to hear it anymore.

@@PrincessYonna1 keep what to themselves? Negative comments about natural hair?

period!!!

Amen, love it ❤

Same ❤

AND DO!!!

PERIOD.

And it is toxic

btw you're so pretty you kinda remind me of my sister😭😭

can’t ever 4c anything in their future

@@sigh_yuri 😂😂

What I hated the most is how those comments would have one thousand to 3 thousand likes.

Reject that terminology! That rating system was invented in the 90s by a biracial man who loved his white mother's hair. The only reason it became popular was because he happened to be Oprah's hair stylist who kept her hair straight. _Reject_ the idea that your hair is at the bottom of that one man's rating scale. For anyone specializing in black hair, your coily hair should be at the _top_ of their rating scale, because your hair is what they are doing most, and they should be experts in it. Reject any black hair stylist who isn't an _expert_ in coily hair. You don't want to deal with someone who can't handle your hair unless it's straightened or texturized or processed first. Even if you want to wear your hair straight, you want a stylist with _profound_ knowledge of your hair the way it grows from your head.

Yesss those Are low key racist.

Whew! It is self hate wild wild West out here now.

Yeah, I'm really sick of seeing all the self hate posts.​@@ladybird491

😂😂😂 thank you!!

@@sigh_yuri ofc!! u were very articulated and to the point, and as someone who can also relate to having struggled with people around me hating on my natural hair/afro, it really hit close to home (in a good way ofc). keep up the good work ☺️

She ate and left no memory of any crumbs. 🤣

they would have been APPALLED 😂 and i would’ve been living for it! i wore my natural hair to every formal event my university had once i stopped getting my hair crocheted

I would rather die than wear a wig or straight hair to my wedding (both time I wore my natural hair). But oddly enough I wear wigs often

I know that’s right sis!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

@@sigh_yuri the hair un is a the one compromise that keeps eerrrbody but its true that a full fro would have raised eyebrows among negative folk

Bun was better It's a wedding

You’re not alone sis! Thin and short 4c hair here and I still can’t stand it myself…

Same. People saying natural hair isn’t hard to manage are just coping/lying. Imagine how much less stress I’d have if I had manageable hair 🥹

I definitely get the struggle. I don't say I don't like my hair anymore but it's always been difficult to deal with. The unfortunate thing about black hair is that you have to try a lot of things to see what works because something that works for one person isn't going to work for you.

​@@kakashi43524c hair is NOT hard to manage, I am 4c and had relaxing for years. They make detangling brushes. Stop doing all kinds of fancy styles that take hours. It literally take me less than 2 hours to braid my hair.

​@@adu_adure1266your hair is not even or trimmed and not moisturized so that is why it is hard to comb...etc. learn how to moisturize your hair and dont keep raggedy edges.

awww thanks 🥹🥰

Nothing wrong with a silk press. Cyn Doll on KZfaq has an amazing foam roller set tutorial that came out beautifully

@@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL There's nothing wrong with a silk press, however, I feel as though if you're a natural hair stylist, silk presses shouldn't be the entirety of what you offer as a service. If every one of their pictures on IG are nothing but silk pressed hair, why would I want to go to them. I want someone that does natural hair.

@@EssenceofSassy natural hair means you don’t have any broken disulfide bonds. This whole movement is pressuring Black women to wear their hair in a certain texture and that is just as racist as shaming Black women for wearing certain textures. If a Black woman wants do whatever to her hair as long as it is healthy clean and styled it is fine. When will we start talking about the science behind hair care and leave all this vanity and fake Black pride behind

TBH, I don't think we're on the same page. I am speaking of what hairstylist offer as a service. I don't have an issue with other Black women wearing whatever hairstyles they are happy with. As Saiuri Diogé stated in her video, the issue is that sadly many women feel pressured to NOT wear their hair out if their texture is 4c. MY issue was that there aren't many NATURAL HAIRSTYLIST that actually STYLE our hair AS IS, verses trying to silk press it. @@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL

@@DOLCEKAYEXOTICALthey said they don’t want a silk press… is that something to argue about? If I wanna get my hair done in a natural style, then that’s what I want. Why can’t I?

Amen

Same thing I said like who gives a damn you DONT NEED ANYBODY’S APPROVAL ITS YOUR HAIR YOUR LIFE YOUR BODY You can NEVER PLEASE PEOPLE and shouldn’t stressing if a community that doesn’t even know your name or even existence until you post or comment somewhere approve of your hairstyle 😂 It’s like people trying to to find more ways to distance/categorize people than bringing them together by ACCEPTANCE (letting them do whatever they soul desires) to me Also talking about “your black card revoked” because of this this and that. Had it said to me like that’s why you should DO YOU FOR YOU AND NOBODY ELSE.

oh trust, i have full confidence in my natural hair, you can see proof of that on my IG. im just bringing up the conversation bc we’ve avoided it for too long. we’ve made it too much of an individual issue so now its undoing our community’s confidence and self love again.

Shout out TZ 🌅!

thought I was the only one who noticed

@@candicezeno938 Nope. Just getting more prevalent and annoying by the day. I don’t even watch wig/extention content.

awwww thank you 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

loooooool sorry to disappoint you 😭 but dont worry, vids are def otw!!

Facts! I just found her tonight and I’m definitely here for it 💯

i love this!!! i wish more ppl could have this experience. i dont have a thing against added hair, but like i said, options. natural hair should always be acceptable, and that should be extended to all types of it ♥️

Why is your hair covered by flower emojis in your pfp then? 😭

@@Lifeishard237 it's a filter that's an old pic. That has nothing to do with the conversation 😐

This part. This video is just nitpicking in a different format lmao

Thank you!

While I see what you’re saying. I think you missed key parts of the video where she gives examples of how people perceive their hair, regardless of external validation. There is merit in her opinion of how black people, specifically women, don’t like their hair and how it shows in the language they use, what hair they wear to special occasions, the protective styles they get MAJORITY of the time Also about the long hair comment. Many culture marks hair growth as a sign of femininity, she’s pointing out how it’s counterintuitive for black people to measure growth in length and flowiness (usually downwards) and not in height and width

Yea it’s like I see where she was going with this but there are some things I disagree with as well. Like when she said people get braids and wigs all the time like it’s a bad thing. I keep my natural hair in protective styles because I want to. Not everyone has hours in a week to take care of our natural hair. Idk what she’s talking about 😂

@@coilycutie436people don’t perceive anything without external validation though. People largely believe things about themselves that they’ve heard or haven’t heard from other people. I don’t believe the majority of black women hate their hair, but the ones that do shouldn’t be judged for that because guess what society (mainstream media) tells black women it’s not “as” attractive while also simultaneously judging us for wearing weaves and wigs. I don’t really care what people say on the internet, I see what’s happening in real life and alot of black women that don’t like their hair it’s not for no reason. If it was praised more and coveted more we would like it more. Other groups of women are praised a lot more for their natural beauty than we are and that’s glaringly obvious. It’s partially a cultural issue (self hate) and largely a prejudice issue.

God bless you! I'm so glad you started getting closer with God and loving on the CROWN he gave you♡

Amen I agree. I haven't straightened my hair in years 🙏🏾

Wow!!! same for me , when i got close to God he changed my relationship with my hair as well, ❤

Exactly never let your hair become you

This can be the Internet, in general. Recently, I’ve been consuming a lot of male improvement content. I’m finding most of it gets classified as “red pill” even when going out of their way to distance themselves from RP talking points. It can be hard to individuate, online. The algorithms seem to want to distill us to the most radical extremes. 😢 Wish I had advice on how to stay grounded, that didn’t involve unplugging…

I love that you used the word "normal" to describe our hair. I'll never forget I was talking with a friend - she was not Black, and this was about 15 years ago, when I still had a relaxer - and we were talking about hair. She made a comment about "normal" hair - meaning straight. At the time I didn't know how to react and said nothing. Now, I would say, "Normal? My natural hair grows out of my head super coily, and it is normal. What do you mean by 'normal?'"

I also relate to always having long natural hair and at some point was even obsessing over natural hair vids and really never felt the need to perm or relax my hair because I’ve was always fine with it.

wait cuz that might be another video idea!!! but yes you’re so right, everything abt natural on here (and everywhere else) is “how do i get my hair to not be my hair as fast as possible.” so discouraging to the self love journey

My next suggested video was “Why I went back to relaxers.” 🤷🏽‍♀️

@@CoCo-ew7zi DONT DO IT!!!!

@@_Natasha2222_ I won't. It was just weird that it was suggested after watching this video. I may be a lazy natural, but I don't ever want to go back to the creamy crack.

It’s because that style suits your face more. Some people look good with short natural hair while others do not. It has nothing really to do with texture. Hair length can significantly enhance your beauty and there is nothing wrong with that. The lady in this video has the face for short hair and she looks Gorgeous. I can’t see her having problems attracting male attention with it but she needs to create content for income so here we are.

@@camille3083 yeah but then don't go out of your way making statements about liking natural hair when deep down you'd prefer most people in their unnatural forms. My real hair is short and if you don't like it then keep the "I like natural hair" talk to yourself and let people be. I'm specifically calling out people that criticize women for wearing wigs/extensions but are actually drawn to that instead of natural hair

@@chibaby800I promise you if your hair was that long naturally they would say the same thing. It’s not about style it’s about length. My sisters natural hair was very long and she always got compliments on it. Didn’t matter if it was all over the place. Long hair is seen as more appealing to most people.

@@Lifeishard237 “yeah if my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a bike” that’s still the point. My hair and most African women I know in their natural state don’t have long hair. There’s usually that one unique person with long hair that everyone compliments but it’s not the average length. If the expectation for getting compliments is having hair longer than it can be naturally then people don’t like natural hair (black African natural hair) they like the ones that are closer to the European look. Btw people might not even notice how long someone’s natural hair is until they straighten it or manipulate it in some way.

@@chibaby800nobody has naturally short hair a lot of people just don’t have the education to know how to maintain length with their hair type.

Men like whatever hair that looks healthy clean and cute including natural hair. Black men on the other hand feel entitled

Women complain about men not liking their hair but i dont want a man who is offended by my natural state anyway. Let the trash walk itself out.

God I wish y’all would stop being around bm, I’ve had multiple wm tell me they accept my hair in any way I choose to have it, they just let you exist

@@shathegem Exactly. It’s just BM. Other men don’t care as long as it looks like you put effort in.

Not to defend Black men, but there's a lot of cultural trauma (in the US at least) related to what physical features were seen as being 'valuable and worth protecting' in a woman, and how that reflected on a man's overall 'success' and sense of masculinity. It's woven into the roots of our culture and really screwed up whole generations of people. You're right that healthy, confident men like healthy, confident women. A lot of Black men aren't healthy or truly confident. @@DOLCEKAYEXOTICAL

phewwwwww some of the things i had to admit to myself when i was confronting myself??? 😩😩😩 THATS the true natural hair journey

I cut off an x boyfriend over that. I notice when I wore my neat natural afro he would just stare for minute and not say anything but when it was twisted and coiled looking or silk press he would compliment it a lot. I realize he had self hate as a black man and ghosted him

if you’re looking for a video that can help get you on the right path, i have a wash day video with everything i do, as well as a bunch of stylists in the description that genuinely have this whole hair thing figured out ♥️♥️♥️

yesssss exactly!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

That’s originally what it was, but the natural hair movement we’ve made mainstream glorifies laid edges and type 3 hair, it’s a symptom of our colorism and texturism to me

Same here. It looks “good on us”because we see it as beautiful! They don’t even investigate why they think they can’t wear their hair the way it naturally grows out of their head…like it’s illogical?!?

Damn who ever said that is toxic as hell.

​@@ladybird491Exactly!

This is such an insightful point!

You still threw in length so to get a thumbs up and the length makes you feel more comfortable having 4c hair. I notice 4c girls have to talk about their length and I find it is a low key way to say they keeping up with all other hair type that seem to always be seen with long hair.

@@ladybird491 I shaved my head bald twice. My routine takes less time when shorter. This wasn't about glorifying long hair and more about healthy appreciation for the hair growing out of my head. I guess I just wanted to point out that even without heat or chemical, our hair grows. But regardless of the length, my hair will remain this texture because now, this is the texture I love the most. And not just on me, I love it on anyone I see ☺️🖤♥️

Same here now that my 4c afro hair is big.

that feeling of suffocation is the number one reason i never became a wig girlie. i can’t imagine keeping it on at length, but i also can’t imagine having to put it on every day or being “caught without it,” so i just never wore them

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How long do silk presses last? My hair is too big to wear as is everyday. I think pressing is still considered natural to me because as lil girls we either got hot comb or blow dried...and our hair flourished

@@copperwarrior I get them once a month with a deep conditioner each time and make sure to keep my ends trimmed and healthy. If you wrap it or use rollers or flexi rods etc it will last. I also go months without heat or just wear blow dried styles. There are many “heat trained naturals” videos on KZfaq that tell you how to have long healthy heat trained hair where your curls revert right back. One of my favorite on here was able to achieve waist length healthy hair

@@Sparkle-ey7iw thanks. ok because i only wash like once a month so that is good

Well when the wigs cost 500 and then another 175 to install, they might be on to something. Cuz I'm not paying that.

Agreed! Not black, but I'm from Egypt and people similarly view textured hair as less than even tho most people here have wavy/curly hair. I recently saw a tiktok of a bride here who decided to wear her hair natural for her wedding (and it was absolutely stunning) and the majority of comments were shaming her bruh. I can't even begin to imagine how it is for black people with more textured hair than us...

She is not shaming, she is calling it out. She called out people shaming our natural hair and she is aloud. She doesn't have to do a video topic that you prefer, you don't pay her YT bills.

@@ladybird491 I think you misunderstood my comment, I like that the topic is being discussed, we’ll never make any progress if we don’t address these issues especially the ones that have brought us down for literally hundreds of years. My issue is just with the direction of the frustration and lack of context in the video. Like of course some black women are negatively affected by anti-black beauty/hair standards but it’s not useful to put black women down even more because of that. And it sure as hell isn’t empowering We need to be criticizing and tearing down the Eurocentric beauty standard, not the people affected by it ✌🏾

Exactly!! ❤

For how many generations are we going to use society hates our hair argument we have to love our hair regardless of what other people think wearing wigs or weaves until death isn’t something someone should want to do it is sad

🥹💕 this is so sweet

You are so right ! Time consuming and expensive as well. Even the protective styles are expensive! When I was younger I always felt pressured to wear my natural hair to prove a point that I don't hate my hair and that I have hair. When I would wear it natural due to all the gel, manipulation and me becoming lazy because of all the work my hair requires my hair would literally fall off. Since then I've decided I would never let anyone pressure me into wearing my natural hair to prove some point. I love my natural hair but it is difficult for me to handle and that's okay. I guess some people are hair persons and some aren't. I feel like everyone should really mind their business.

Also in the winter my hair makes me sick !!! Even if I put the bare minimum of moisturizer the middle of my hair holds it and I'm sick 3x in one month. So no one is going to make me feel bad for wearing braids when they don't know the actual struggle I go through with maintaining my natural hair.

Amen!!!

You do not have 4c hair, I see your hair in the pic. I have legit 4c, 4c hair usually don't have a high shine naturally nor very defined waves or curled and normally don't grow deep waved or while hanging. You are 4A my biracial daughter has your hair type. If you was 4c your hair would even have a very shrunk look even with a twist out.

​@@cassw1234she doesn't have 4c hair, not in that pic she has.

Exactly!❤

This!! Leave black women & their hair alone!!!!

Black women are the only ones in the world constantly dealing with all this talk about hair

It's not pressure, it's reality

every other time i go on tiktok where a Black woman is doing her natural hair the search is “6c hair” im like HELLO???

It’s intellectual dishonesty. Some even mention the people from Papua New Guinea as proof 😂. We have more in common genetically with Europeans than Papuans/Melanesians

Yes microlocs are the best I have them for 4 years now started with braids

I am getting locks again but doing the back combing method cause it's faster

You are a fence sitter.