You Need More Vigor For Shadow of the Erdtree - Elden Ring

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Ratatoskr

Ratatoskr

27 күн бұрын

Rookie numbers.
Art by: Krekkov on twitter.

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@justyouruncleiroh7508
@justyouruncleiroh7508 25 күн бұрын
thumbnail be wild rata
@KaedNinescarred
@KaedNinescarred 25 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure I've seen that whole image... 😏
@justthere845
@justthere845 25 күн бұрын
Bro even gave sauce😭
@KaedNinescarred
@KaedNinescarred 25 күн бұрын
It's Krekkov right?
@KaedNinescarred
@KaedNinescarred 25 күн бұрын
​@@justthere845 Hah 🤣 I was right
@jacksonjabba
@jacksonjabba 25 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to perform vigorous research(har har I’m so funny)
@epsilon1372
@epsilon1372 25 күн бұрын
That thumbnail 💀
@FSVR54
@FSVR54 25 күн бұрын
what about it? it's some random anime shit
@epsilon1372
@epsilon1372 25 күн бұрын
@@FSVR54 bro doesnt know
@anomitas
@anomitas 25 күн бұрын
​@@FSVR54butthurt
@FSVR54
@FSVR54 25 күн бұрын
@@anomitas grow up
@zacharyperlee4179
@zacharyperlee4179 25 күн бұрын
.....Beelzebub O Beelzebub
@Danil_JRK
@Danil_JRK 25 күн бұрын
Wasn't expecting the NTR thumbnail. We learned something new about rata
@milesdp1990
@milesdp1990 25 күн бұрын
Wasn't sure what that was, so I looked it up. Not sure that was a wise decision. XD
@Audiodump
@Audiodump 25 күн бұрын
What I learned is I'm never clicking on his videos again and reporting him.
@jacksonjabba
@jacksonjabba 25 күн бұрын
@@Audiodumpimagine getting this upset about a shitposty thumbnail. I mean if it was actually offensive or rude or otherwise harmful go off, but it is literally harmless
@FSVR54
@FSVR54 25 күн бұрын
I'm glad I'm not a terminally online internet weeb and have no idea what you guys are talking about. I love when clowns use acronyms for random shit and people are just supposed to know what it stands for
@Audiodump
@Audiodump 25 күн бұрын
@@jacksonjabba The artist also does underage amputee porn so...ok. Please continue to defend it.
@milesdp1990
@milesdp1990 25 күн бұрын
"My health pool's big and it keeps gettin' bigger, That's cause Miquella is my vigor." - Miriel, probably
@dregnoff9361
@dregnoff9361 25 күн бұрын
.....or Mohg
@milesdp1990
@milesdp1990 25 күн бұрын
@@dregnoff9361 VERY true
@EmraHemingway
@EmraHemingway 25 күн бұрын
My 13Vigor friend will play this DLC and say, “What the fuck this is unreasonable. The bosses do too much damage.”
@JKKoneofakind
@JKKoneofakind 25 күн бұрын
My 10 Vigor self will play this DLC and say, "What the fuck this is awesome. Look at all these new spells!"
@marsgreekgod
@marsgreekgod 25 күн бұрын
I mean would they even notice? Everything would of been one shooting them for a while
@EmraHemingway
@EmraHemingway 25 күн бұрын
@@marsgreekgod it’s possible he wouldn’t notice, but I think it’s more likely that he would given that he’s never beaten Malenia! 😂 … And apparently, we’re getting a couple Malenias in this DLC 👏🏻🙌🏻😤
@randomaether
@randomaether 25 күн бұрын
I just use the full hp shield, to get two shotted :)
@MrFRNTIK
@MrFRNTIK 25 күн бұрын
Just don't get hit
@bbluva20
@bbluva20 25 күн бұрын
People with no Vigor don't notice things getting stronger. Everything kills them in one-hit anyways, lmao.
@OMEKS_1
@OMEKS_1 24 күн бұрын
Bro we can tell by the damage the enemy takes, we just dodge and block hits. I’m quality gang tho
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
@@OMEKS_1 quality build in a game where quality infusion is literally always the worst option unless you have 80 in both strength and dex and even then it makes the ashes of war generally weaker 💀
@OMEKS_1
@OMEKS_1 24 күн бұрын
@@iota-09 Since I’m high level I get to use pretty much everything in the game and sure, maybe I’m not super OP with a specific thing, but the difficulty is exactly where I want it at, I don’t want or need super easy bosses. I’ll probably get rekd in PVP with other people’s focused builds and max vigor, but I’m pretty much just an offline guy anyways
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
@@OMEKS_1 that's cool then. just do note that often times the balance of these games gets really weirdly skewed in ng+ for dlcs so if you're as high level as you're implying, would imply being in ng+ too, watch out for that.
@bbluva20
@bbluva20 24 күн бұрын
@@OMEKS_1 wrong
@Niyariii
@Niyariii 25 күн бұрын
YES, never stop vigor-posting. Vigor-CHADS are true Elden lords
@mukkah
@mukkah 25 күн бұрын
/laughsinMind100
@TheRealPsychoGeniusRevengeance
@TheRealPsychoGeniusRevengeance 25 күн бұрын
Mana lost Vigor won
@catanyag
@catanyag 25 күн бұрын
If anyone asks what's required to start the DLC, tell them you must beat Radahn, beat Mohg, and have at least 60 Vigor.
@stonaraptor8196
@stonaraptor8196 25 күн бұрын
why would 60 vigor be required for PVE my brother? If your build NEEDS 60 vigor idk what to tell you.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 25 күн бұрын
@@stonaraptor8196 If your build needs a damage stat I don't know what to tell you.
@egg_64.
@egg_64. 25 күн бұрын
​stonaraptor8196 if you dont know why vigor is good than your the issue lol level vigor buddy
@Riqq44
@Riqq44 25 күн бұрын
Your insane you only need 50
@ErikWithBrain
@ErikWithBrain 25 күн бұрын
​@@Riqq44Im rocking 49 w/ Erdtree's Favor 2, giving 1747. Golden vow, boiled crab, blak flames protection, defensive talismans and others go a long way. 60 is just too much for me too.
@genericcatgirl
@genericcatgirl 25 күн бұрын
"What is your build?" "Vigor and Endurance."
@azamat6765
@azamat6765 25 күн бұрын
Bloodborne cursed chalice dungeons scarred me mentally. So now I am kinda trying to make beefier and tankier characters to never relive these oneshots again 💀
@acrab6527
@acrab6527 25 күн бұрын
yeah Amygdala in a closet, with half health
@yorkoxmaul
@yorkoxmaul 25 күн бұрын
3:57 Rata's futa collection exposed
@thecrypticstench
@thecrypticstench 25 күн бұрын
Really appreciate you making these spoiler free vids, thanks Rata 🙏🏻
@gothiclb
@gothiclb 25 күн бұрын
I've found that the easiest way for me to progress is to level enough to meet the base requirements of the weapon I want to use, and then dump everything else into Vigor until I'm at 40 or 50. The bulk of your damage will come from weapon upgrades, and scaling doesn't matter even matter until +25 anyways because you're only gaining 2-3 AR per level. It's much smarter to focus on upgrades and gathering buffs while you pump your vigor
@EmissaryOfSmeagol
@EmissaryOfSmeagol 25 күн бұрын
Leveling tip: swap one of your Talismans for the Gold Scarab immediately after killing a boss. There is a delay between when you kill a boss and when you get the runes for it, meaning you can use your 4 mains for the fight and swap during that gap.
@porkwhisperer3050
@porkwhisperer3050 25 күн бұрын
I never have the attention span after killing a boss to do this. I forget every time.
@mduckernz
@mduckernz 25 күн бұрын
I just pop a gold foot. I even have it set to one of my quick slots. Yeah, I’m cheap, and what? heh
@EmissaryOfSmeagol
@EmissaryOfSmeagol 25 күн бұрын
@@mduckernz they stack, so if you're willing to farm, then that's optimal.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 25 күн бұрын
@@EmissaryOfSmeagol or just use ritual shield talisman with 40 vigor
@EmissaryOfSmeagol
@EmissaryOfSmeagol 25 күн бұрын
@@Ghorda9 I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at
@elleofmusic
@elleofmusic 25 күн бұрын
I credit Pat Stares At for being my introduction to Souls games and drilling "LEVEL VIGOR!!" into my head before I even picked up a controller 😂 Very helpful, since I suck at using shields and can't parry to literally save my life. Sounds like I'll need to be keeping Morgott's Rune activated as well!
@LegateSprinkles
@LegateSprinkles 25 күн бұрын
I see Krek art. I watch
@pout1385
@pout1385 25 күн бұрын
I didn't hear a word Rata said, I was too invested in the invasion in the background. 😂😂😂
@rpkjr429
@rpkjr429 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for these, it's a really big help scratching the itch for content while the scare of spoilers is everywhere
@dftp
@dftp 25 күн бұрын
Nah dude, I just need to dodge better, then I can put more runes into strength instead!
@porkwhisperer3050
@porkwhisperer3050 25 күн бұрын
Some people will say this and then complain about the dlc being “unbalanced”.
@acrab6527
@acrab6527 25 күн бұрын
It's amazing how people still do that even after Fromsoft made every stat point after 60 basically worthless. You're supposed to get 60 in every stat first rather than try and put any points over 60 into anything.
@qwormuli77
@qwormuli77 25 күн бұрын
But why do you need strength, if you don't ever get hit. 60 VIG or starting level runs for style.
@Dovoline3
@Dovoline3 25 күн бұрын
Man we can't even get people to get Vigor in the base game. I *still* get people summoning for Malenia who have
@enman009
@enman009 25 күн бұрын
I stopped taking Reddit and most of YT seriously when I bested Maliketh, and started to do co-op to help people fight him, only for them to be one shotted with 700-800 HP. Most players won't bother commenting online about those details, but it's clear that some people blame the game for dumb oversights like this.
@robbybevard8034
@robbybevard8034 25 күн бұрын
And this is why some people fight her hundreds of times and still can't beat her... and some people beat her on the third or fourth try. The health lets you get away with mistakes and lets you actually learn patterns.
@vharuv4651
@vharuv4651 16 күн бұрын
Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman, Great Rune Buffs, Opaline Bubbletear, Bubble-Shield, Boiled Prawns/Crabs, etc.
@DrexVadaam
@DrexVadaam 25 күн бұрын
That thumbnail is vile
@Kriggleton
@Kriggleton 25 күн бұрын
It literally implies bro gonna 🍇 her 💀
@Kriggleton
@Kriggleton 25 күн бұрын
So yeah its insane
@gorxela8982
@gorxela8982 25 күн бұрын
This is actually pretty terrifying. If you're right and bosses' stats in SotE continue to scale so much that it warrants to have a mechanic that can basically increase your overall power level by 50% in NG+0, just imagine the numbers in NG+1 and beyond. If FromSoft implemented those changes bluntly then I imagine that the stats of the final bosses of the DLC will be fucking insane.
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 25 күн бұрын
Oh god just now realizing my main character is in NG+5 😂
@fullfildreamz
@fullfildreamz 25 күн бұрын
It's late game, and late game enemies scale much less with ng's. I wouldn't worry too much.
@theworstcatholic7247
@theworstcatholic7247 25 күн бұрын
HP is far more important in Er than previous souls games. The difference between being two shot and three is massive. Also doesn't matter your builds brothers, remember to bring crab. Also if you find yourself being wrecked still, take off your sore seals. Stuff makes a bigger difference than most expect when you're still learning something.
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
it's honestly comparable only to bloodborne, and the main reason it was important was early ame(bsb oneshot) and dungeons
@protossoverlord8345
@protossoverlord8345 25 күн бұрын
That thumbnail tho lmao.
@Sitobambito
@Sitobambito 25 күн бұрын
Grateful for these spoiler free DLC videos. I’m avoiding all spoilers, but also want to prepare my build.
@pigzy9807
@pigzy9807 25 күн бұрын
While I agree that vigour is great. I don't think it is a fair comparison to point out that levelling 30 levels of visor will double your health, while an offensive stat won't double your damage. Your total health pool is not really your health bar, it is the health bar plus the health in your flasks. This total amount of health barely increases with vigour. Your vigour is there so you don't die from one or two small mistakes.
@Dr_Donald_Duck
@Dr_Donald_Duck 25 күн бұрын
After reading the comments it seems some people think 8% more damage is better than 100% more health. It's wild. Even at 45 Vigor you can still trade like 30% more health for 4% damage. And people will still be: Nah it's worth pushing dex, gotta take down the boss in 24 instead of 25 hits. Wild. Absouletly wild. Beating the game with less than 60 vigor doens't make you "good at Elden Ring", it makes you bad at math.
@onyx82
@onyx82 25 күн бұрын
"i dOn'T nEeD vIgOr iF i NeVeR gEt HiT"
@robbybevard8034
@robbybevard8034 25 күн бұрын
THis is why some people die to Malenia hundreds of times and some people beat her on their third or fourth try.
@gobihoukou1
@gobihoukou1 24 күн бұрын
"You Need More Vigor For Shadow of the Erdtree" - Dude, I already have all the vigor...
@igniortix
@igniortix 25 күн бұрын
That parry at the end was sublime
@YakuzaGoon
@YakuzaGoon 25 күн бұрын
Putting the source in the description, a man of culture.
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
@EldenRingBuildsArchive 25 күн бұрын
After doing a (kinda stressful) no hit video on all remembrances on KZfaq, I’m happy to have returned to my classic tank playstyle in ER. There should be more focus on defensive stats for this DLC, vigor is one thing, but there’s also damage negation, (which is heavily tied to endurance and faith, alongside the opaline tear) stamina, which softcaps at 30/50 endurance, pve poise which allows you to trade hits and keep pressure/stance damage, and the new guard counter mechanic. There’s lots of ways of maximising you not getting one shotted.
@cha0ss849
@cha0ss849 25 күн бұрын
These short vids the only thing saving me for the next 2 weeks 😭
@lal_fotografo
@lal_fotografo 25 күн бұрын
Love ur channel! ❤❤❤
@AbassAli092
@AbassAli092 25 күн бұрын
Players should also use Defense Talismans like Dragoncrest Greatshield Talismanwhich which decreases Malenia's Damage Significantly.
@acrab6527
@acrab6527 25 күн бұрын
Yeah people would talk about getting killed by waterfowl dance, but with high vigor and all the defensive buffs it does 1 damage a swing. You can just attack through it. And since she heals based on how much damage she does...
@qwormuli77
@qwormuli77 25 күн бұрын
@@acrab6527 The healing is flat and she heals even from attacks dealing 0 damage.
@vharuv4651
@vharuv4651 16 күн бұрын
It's not even just a case of vigor. You can keep your vigor needs manageable. Nobody ever talks about defensive buffs or damage mitigation. Like, I've genuinely never needed more than 30, sometimes even more than 25 base vigor. Not when there's damage mitigation consumables, wondrous physick buffs, incantation/spells that increase damage mitigation, damage mitigation talismans, etc. Once you start incorporating preparation like this into your build, life becomes a lot easier. Oh, I forgot about Redahn and Godrick's Great Runes which also increase HP. Like, sure, in a pure numbers game, 60 vigor is worth more statistically than the same amount of points in a damage stat. At the same time, if you don't need that amount of vigor, you might benefit more from an incremental increase in damage. And it's not just about 'not taking hits'. It's about coming up with ways to mitigate or limit the damage of those hits, and there's many ways to achieve that in Elden Ring without overcompensating with large amounts of HP. And I don't really get why nobody ever talks about any of this during this discussion. Those buffs and those items are in the game for a reason.
@jw81687
@jw81687 25 күн бұрын
Agree 100%. It's so cringe to see people saying they need more damage and less health points. Like you said they are only getting 5-8% more damage by ditching doubling their health. Usually the noobs are the ones saying more arcane/Dex for damage, especially at start of the game. Health has always been the priority stat in these games
@porkwhisperer3050
@porkwhisperer3050 25 күн бұрын
I honestly think it’s really bad how fromsoft balance the health stat in their games. Ds2 is the one that did it the best. That’s because all stats give health and vigor just gave double the amount if I’m remembering correctly. Nioh did something similar. Random extra thought. It’s weird that people complain about adp being a near mandatory stat when vigor is just about if not more important in the other fromsoft games. They clearly balanced most of the enemies moveset in ds2 around low adp. Lost sinner and mytha being exceptions. The enemies have easy to out position but lingering hitboxes for a reason imo.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 25 күн бұрын
@@porkwhisperer3050 you don't really need to level vigor early game, you just need flask upgrades, radahn is the only early boss that requires at least 30 vigor
@andresperrle7984
@andresperrle7984 25 күн бұрын
​​@@Ghorda9especially early game I would recommend pumping vigor if you can. Since skalling doesn't matter and you can easily double your health pool. Sill without prep (talisman etc), renala one-shotted me once with some random spell, despite my ~30(+?) points in vigor.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 25 күн бұрын
@@andresperrle7984 i'd say endurance is more important, it allows you to be a lot more aggressive and end fights quickly, nothing in stormveil does that much damage and you get plenty of levels before red wolf of radagon anyway
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 25 күн бұрын
@@andresperrle7984 rennala's shot gun and moon are easy to avoid if you don't just run at her head on
@CB-kf9up
@CB-kf9up 25 күн бұрын
That King's Field song just goes with everything
@hankidory4446
@hankidory4446 25 күн бұрын
Damn! Of course it was Kings Field that tingeld my nostalgie receptors in this videos.
@auflangsam
@auflangsam 24 күн бұрын
the first one is replicant
@lmycinius5783
@lmycinius5783 25 күн бұрын
Another thing to help with vigor that is worth mentioning for how powerful it is, is Morgotts Great Rune. With 60 vigor and Morgotts Rune you go from 1900 HP all the way to 2375 HP. That is an enormous leap in HP and depending on what talismans and crystal tears you use, you can push that all the way into 2600+ range. This doesnt cost any investments in levels, only great runes. Keep in mind this is mostly helpful with PvE, however it is also still worth engaging in online play because of the potential for easy rune arc rewards.
@beckerscantbechoosers6768
@beckerscantbechoosers6768 25 күн бұрын
Whatever happened with the lightning spear miss at 2:18 is one of the luckiest Elden Ring moments I've seen o.o
@sengil5656
@sengil5656 25 күн бұрын
Thumbnail goes crazy 😅. Subscribed
@user-vk4gm2qe3c
@user-vk4gm2qe3c 25 күн бұрын
Man’s a legend for this support group ah series
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 25 күн бұрын
As a glass canon enjoyer I truly can't wait to go into this with 30 vigor, fly around terrified collecting every item and weapon I can, and getting absolutely ass blasted by even the smaller enemies. Haven't felt that way since I first played The Old Hunters. As long as I can tank one blow and still have a sliver of health, I'm good.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 25 күн бұрын
just use shield talisman
@pancakke08
@pancakke08 24 күн бұрын
I doubt youll be able to even take one blow
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 24 күн бұрын
​​​@@pancakke08 I mean thats what the shard upgrades are for, so I'll collect as many of those as I can in the first area, which is apparently more than just a couple from what the previews show. Might have to respec to 40 vigor and that's fine. I'm not so stubborn that I'll just punch a brick wall over and over. I just wanna see how much I've improved at this game. I tend to keep my vigor low as a self balance for my hybrid playstyle. Magic makes the game easier, so I accept less vigor to still have a challenge. If I used a bunch of magic and had high vigor I just wouldn't have fun at all.
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 24 күн бұрын
​@@Ghorda9that reminds me I never picked up the +2 in FA
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 24 күн бұрын
@@geordiejones5618 was actually meant to say ritual shield, but anyway
@sekiro5870
@sekiro5870 24 күн бұрын
Great choice of music, my cultured sir.
@gluttonousmimic3041
@gluttonousmimic3041 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for crediting the artist. He does some amazing work, even if most of it is of the "spicy" variety.😅
@joshk494
@joshk494 25 күн бұрын
My favorite stopping point for vigor is 52, 1750 hp. It's a nice number to look at, gives you a good cushion, gets most of the productive levels for hp in there while saving 8 points for other stuff. If you want more defense, putting those 8 points into endurance for better armor and negations is probably more productive than the last +150 hp at 60 vig, while also giving you more stamina.
@qwormuli77
@qwormuli77 25 күн бұрын
You'd probably be better off going closer to 60 and pinching the endurance points off of something less important.
@joshk494
@joshk494 25 күн бұрын
​@qwormuli77 nah, it works out great this way. I believe in vigor, but 60 just isn't necessary most of the time. Negations are more impactful when enemies are doing more damage because they're % based. The more damage is coming your way, the more they prevent. All my tarnished also wear the dragon greatshield talisman. 150 more hp wouldn't drastically improve my quality of life, but those 8 attribute points are extremely valuable. Obviously they don't all have to go to endurance, I'm just pointing out that a bit more endurance would give you more freedom with your equipment and contribute indirectly toward your defenses when diminishing returns really set in on your vigor. My only builds with 60 vigor are lvl 200, beneath that I have better ideas. I see what Rat is saying here and I essentially agree, it's a matter of whether 150 hp is the best use of 8 attribute points. If you really don't like heavy armor as a matter of fashion or whatever, then I'd agree 60 vigor could be a good decision for new, challenging gameplay where you expect to take some hits.
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
@@qwormuli77 to be honest both approaches work in pve, as long as you don't drop under 50 vigor, but for pvp 60 vigor with at most 3 levels less is mandatory from meta level onwards.
@fletaun
@fletaun 25 күн бұрын
That summer game fest's chicken show really did the number on Rata. Poor guy, my only hope they increase the soft cap all stats
@Stuwi
@Stuwi 24 күн бұрын
Why would they mess with the stats lol, they made a whole new independent scaling system for the dlc
@TheChocoboWhisperer
@TheChocoboWhisperer 23 күн бұрын
As someone who's avoiding spoilers like the plague, thank you for providing spoiler-free preparation content for the DLC.
@juulsoda1935
@juulsoda1935 25 күн бұрын
bro is an Krekkov fan, good tastes.
@PremiumSaltProviderSalineSodiu
@PremiumSaltProviderSalineSodiu 24 күн бұрын
Super sweet of you to think of us lowly tarnished
@aldrichunfaithful3589
@aldrichunfaithful3589 24 күн бұрын
these vigor check-ees would never have survived ptde ds1 pvp, the best build in the game had 16str, 10dex, 50 vitality (vigor for the babies), 60end and 16 attunement. giantdad was very real and he could hurt you
@naxergss2625
@naxergss2625 25 күн бұрын
this takes me back
@Lordofpools
@Lordofpools 25 күн бұрын
thumbnail gave me a good chuckle
@Grimbonez
@Grimbonez 25 күн бұрын
NTR invader makes so much sense that i feel like i understand invaders mindset now. Thanks rata
@KingJobber
@KingJobber 23 күн бұрын
Respectfully Ratatoskr, 40 vigor is perfectly fine! Players should put more into their damage stat for bigger numbers! - Nice Red Man
@elsepmm
@elsepmm 25 күн бұрын
I'm on my 2nd playthrough right now, fresh game. This time I decided to try vigor so I got it to 30 first. This playthrough feels so much more fun. I have more breathing room to learn fights. I'm soloing all bosses without spirit ashes and learning movesets. I plan on stopping at 150 for the DLC. I'll give 60 vigor a chance, because 30 vigor feels amazing right now.
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 25 күн бұрын
i tend to beat the game with 40 vigor and ritual shield just fine, i don't plan on changing this with dlc but i will level it more if there's nothing else meaningful to level first
@ottoleong7958
@ottoleong7958 25 күн бұрын
Man of good taste.
@mojoboingo1744
@mojoboingo1744 24 күн бұрын
There's a phrase for people with less than 40 vigor: "namby-pamby Tarnished."
@PregnantAdamSandler
@PregnantAdamSandler 25 күн бұрын
THE RETURN OF THE CROPPED HENTAI THUMBNAIL
@ju5tj4n32
@ju5tj4n32 25 күн бұрын
Nah that thumbnail is INSANE
@samueltitone5683
@samueltitone5683 25 күн бұрын
Don’t be like me on my first playthrough of DS III. Leveling vigor doesn’t mean your trivializing the game, it means your playing the game the way it’s supposed to be played.
@Shmeky.
@Shmeky. 25 күн бұрын
Bad red man NTRing the pver host is something I didn't expect
@rayzu4380
@rayzu4380 25 күн бұрын
Either more vigor or talismans like the shield one from Leyndell, that reduces 30% of the damage received when you are at full health
@yeahr1ghty
@yeahr1ghty 25 күн бұрын
50 vigor minimum, but after that there's more efficient ways to boost your effective hp (actual tanky-ness). Nothing wrong with 60, just depends on build/play style. Someone with 60 vigor and a soreseal is dying to Malenia much faster than someone with 50 vigor and dragoncrest greatshield talisman. Damage resistance matters, once you get to high vigor levels it matters more than vigor. The dragoncrest shield talismans are great for PvE. Opaline hard tear is great for PvE and PvP. And then there's the body buffs (only get to use one at a time) prawn/crab and elemental fortification/barrier spells. All my high level builds stop at 52-55 vigor, but I enjoy buffing and min/maxing my gear. If you want a simpler build and not to worry about buffs, go for 60 vigor.
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
@@yeahr1ghty this^^^^ aside from weapons, the second thing i want most of all from the dlc is actually competitive medium armor sets both in defence and poise, i'm tired of always running (and seeing people run/use) bullgoat talisman or having to look like a bowling ball for decent poise AND defense at the same time.
@B.L.A.M
@B.L.A.M 25 күн бұрын
You know.. this channel… I think I’ll stick around.
@Xenbjorn
@Xenbjorn 25 күн бұрын
Rata doing Miquella’s work keeping us from going hollow ❤
@AllegrettoTurbo
@AllegrettoTurbo 25 күн бұрын
I've always done this in soul's games, generally the lions share of your damage comes from weapon upgrades. So just hit equip requirements and then level vigour to soft cap except for challenge runs ofc.
@metalface_villain
@metalface_villain 25 күн бұрын
from what i have notice the real damage comes from the build, the buffs and the weapon upgrades. the only offensive stat that matters is arcane to 45 if you are running a bleed build, the rest you can get away with just hitting minimum requirements if you are super short on levels. beating the game with 40 vigor is doable for most people but it will be a sweaty run, 60 vigor is extremely helpful.
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
50 vigor at 125 or 55-60 at 140 for pve and you'll be good, 60 vigor for anything pve, dropping at most 1-3 points if really necessary
@Revenge221
@Revenge221 25 күн бұрын
Deadass clicked the video because of the thumbnail. 10/10 choice.
@j-plarouche9959
@j-plarouche9959 23 күн бұрын
if you want to left it at 40 or 50 for a caster build (as example) consider using Morgott's great rune it can compensate a bit
@vedadb1937
@vedadb1937 25 күн бұрын
that thumbnail is 𝓕𝓡𝓔𝓐𝓚𝓨 bro ♥
@biggums5
@biggums5 25 күн бұрын
As someone firmly avoiding spoilers, I appreciate your efforts in these videos
@chaincat33
@chaincat33 25 күн бұрын
while 60 vigor is definitely preferred, 40 vigor is the first soft cap and is more than usable. At 40 vigor, you can take 1-2 hits from anything in the game and live provided you aren't using anything that increases damage taken. At level 150 you have more than enough stats to have 60 vigor and 2 attacking stats (such as faith and strength) However, a lot of people will insist, nay, die on the hill of level 125 being the meta. Personally, I find level 150 is the natural stopping point if you explore a lot and do most of the content the game has to offer. That is the level you will hit by around the time you do godfrey. But if you want to do the 125 meta, then vigor is going to get in the way of your damaging stats unless you monospec into a single attacking stat (so just faith, no strength). However, if you pull 20 points out of vigor, you're trading 450 hp, about 1/4th of your health bar, for damage and possibly even spell access. That's a lot, but it's not completely unreasonable. Again, unless you're running a damage taken increasing talisman, you won't get one-shot by anything with 1450 health other than maaaybe something particularly gnarly like Astel's or Elden Beast's grabs, very telegraphed moves that you shouldn't be getting hit by in a good run.
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
125 as pvp meta works because duels and invasions outside the arena allow usage of the physick flask, though on pc in den maps you can also use great runes which further emphasizes the function of 125 as meta, in invasions, arena and pve though this is much different, and i'd claim for thoose settings 140 is preferrable, as such, 139 being the best level for invaders if they want a good fight and the biggest amount of players in invasion pool. (125-160ish range of invasion iirc, the latter being the average endgame level from what i've asked around) as for 60 vigor getting in the way: nah, the thing is quality already sucks in the game, but what the 125 meta does to this system is make it so that you always have to give up one and one thing only when making a build. some people choose damage, other people choose weapon variety(hence why for example dual coded is so popular) other people stamina, etc... in my case, i choose talisman slots, bullgoat is a mainstay in ALL my pvp duel builds simply because i find 25-30 stamina to be enough and the heavier armors look like ass, and for wielding heavier weapon setups, then erdtree favor +2 and/or jar arsenal become paramount, ideally the former as it also brings in extra benefits. the real problem with 125 builds is with mixed stats arcane builds, so you're either running pure mage draconic seal or a shitty version of an int-arc mage, thankfully that will be made a little easier in the dlc from what i heard and so that hurdle might be overcome...
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
p.s.: also that which i said about arc-int build not really working at 125? that's exactly why my dlc build will be arc-int, as i'm gonna do it at 139 or even 150 if i feel limited...
@japonski8564
@japonski8564 25 күн бұрын
Thank you
@akira4142
@akira4142 25 күн бұрын
loveee the spoilerrr freeee content thank youuu
@YeeterSkeeter-uw4mu
@YeeterSkeeter-uw4mu 25 күн бұрын
Lmao, the thumbnail has me dying.
@okaymydude1657
@okaymydude1657 25 күн бұрын
thank you for making the same video from two years ago with the exact same cropped image for the thumbnail
@Arri9707
@Arri9707 24 күн бұрын
Already maxed out my Vigor, Mind and Endurance so I'm bing chilling 👌🏻
@sarez6767
@sarez6767 25 күн бұрын
Looking back at the first gamplay trailer, we can see that it only shows us images form the same sections as the preview content. This basically means that we haven't seen sh*t from the dlc yet lol. I can't wait to see what fromsoft has cooked for us . We have no idea what the best bosses and areas will look like 🔥
@h445
@h445 25 күн бұрын
not trying to glaze you Rata, but thanks for these spoiler free vids. they are helping me with the excruciating wait for Erdtree, man!
@iconoclast485
@iconoclast485 25 күн бұрын
This was a VIGOROUSLY pointed video.
@user-zp8kj2cl9g
@user-zp8kj2cl9g 25 күн бұрын
Rata feeling freaky 🥵
@majorlemming8099
@majorlemming8099 25 күн бұрын
i wonder how the dlc upgrades will work with invasions in the dlc area. will it just not apply when dealing or taking damage from fantoms or will both host and fantom keep there dlc upgrades during invasions if its the later i could see balancing issues possibly. i could also see a future where hosts have there upgrades and invaders dont. idk im just talking curious what ppl think. maybe its a non issue and im over thinking it
@YTDariuS-my6dg
@YTDariuS-my6dg 25 күн бұрын
Not the krekk0v thumbnail 😭
@alphax101-gaming2
@alphax101-gaming2 25 күн бұрын
Still don’t get why anyone wouldn’t go all the way to at least 55 vigor in ANY build. The game practically one taps you if you’re behind on vigor. It’s your health. Your survival. Anyone who sleeps on it is a clown to me
@snefansson
@snefansson 25 күн бұрын
I love these videos a lot. The itch is real. Also I’ve needed to block SO MANY channels that put spoilers in the title/thumbnail
@Oracle_Orhyn
@Oracle_Orhyn 23 күн бұрын
Morgott’s great rune enjoyers are eating in this Expansion
@aephyn_
@aephyn_ 25 күн бұрын
Nier and Chrono Trigger themes in the background, good stuff
@kytwb4252
@kytwb4252 25 күн бұрын
Something tells me that thumbnail is professional gooning activity
@Surprisingly154
@Surprisingly154 25 күн бұрын
hey i wanted to ask how far into the game do you think u should be for the dlc? atm im rl 125 and just got to the giant forge and i did almost all the mini catacombs and caves and legacy dungeons including mohg and haligtree without killing malenia and i dont know if i should progress the story more or just wait at the point im at for the dlc.... thanks.
@jduron2068
@jduron2068 25 күн бұрын
the only game dev's that deserve our pre order
@J35h13
@J35h13 25 күн бұрын
bro really jus gon blow up da whole operation fr fr no glazer 💀👺👽
@AegisKHAOS
@AegisKHAOS 25 күн бұрын
In just the base game, I quickly learned the hard way staying at thhe first soft cap was for vigor, so I made sure to reach 60 vigor since. That addition to health made all the difference between barely alive and completely dead. You don't need to put that thumbnail to tell me to level vigor.
@00kills42
@00kills42 25 күн бұрын
The thumbnail gave me jump scare 💀
@tylercathey8848
@tylercathey8848 25 күн бұрын
so your telling me the 15 vigor i beat the game with isnt enough
@coggnus9656
@coggnus9656 25 күн бұрын
If your play style is based on not getting hit then you should be fine
@jw81687
@jw81687 25 күн бұрын
Do you alt f4 invaders 😂
@lynackhilou4865
@lynackhilou4865 25 күн бұрын
I feel 60 vigor is a bit too much , i recently replayed the game on ng+ and i found 50 to be comfortable where i could still take big hits from late game bosses and survive
@porkwhisperer3050
@porkwhisperer3050 25 күн бұрын
You made the game way harder for yourself but if you enjoyed that challenge then you can go into the dlc with probably not that much more.
@ididntaskverified3663
@ididntaskverified3663 25 күн бұрын
Status effects/ overleveling/magic L
@RockR277
@RockR277 24 күн бұрын
I'd be amazed just to see someone play the base game at 16 vig. I rush 30 as soon as I meet the reqs for whatever I plan on using early on.
@iota-09
@iota-09 24 күн бұрын
i would say from 50 vigor onwards is fine for pve, and 57-60 vigor is the range for pvp( but you gotta have some really good reason to not have 60 vigor in pvp) perosnally my rl139 build for the dlc will have 59 vigor in fact, just one point less so that i can use exactly everything that i want with the armor that i want for the correct poise amount etc, without missing out on anything in particular.
@McDudes
@McDudes 25 күн бұрын
Quality thumbnail Quality video
@monoono4051
@monoono4051 25 күн бұрын
My HEALTH gets BIGGER cause I've got crazy VIGOR!
@shurley96
@shurley96 25 күн бұрын
I've been getting around to finishing the base game before the DLC . It was only when I realised I should respec for more vigor did I start doing well, and none of the bosses posed too much difficulty.
@RockingTheFro
@RockingTheFro 25 күн бұрын
Fair enough but I've beaten elden beast and mohg at level 40 so I'm trying for level 80 to start the dlc. I'm sure I'll die a lot but regardless, I really appreciate your content right now. Definitely making the wait more bearable.
@cammyshill3099
@cammyshill3099 25 күн бұрын
Based thumbnail.
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