Never mind lol it seems you already covered the legion pro 7 2023 I’ll give that a watch

@@jasperboleyley9659 When in doubt, I say Quality over Quantity. The G18 will be a better companion to you in the long term and I believe will manage thermals wayy better than the MSI hence I feel can manage sustained loads better as well. I have no experience with the MSI Vector series but I think MSI has positioned it to be a more affordable option and will have cheaped out in a few areas. The G18 will be a better laptop. Sure ypu might get 15% more fps with the 4090 but even if you are an enthusiast gamer, those extra frames might mot make a big difference to your gaming experience but the quality of individual components on a laptop can IMO. Hope that helps. Let me kmow what you end up deciding :)

@@kazmiee i appreciate it brother...the msi is on sale and only a few hundred bucks like 150-300 and i really want an 18 inch lappy but it wasnt on sale...i come from a 3060 predator series and wanted the predator helios 18 but its 2500-2600... 😃

Hey BCEng, really glad to hear that you like my content. And thank you for your question - I really wanted to mention the Pro 16X in my video as well; I certainly think it can be a consideration; but I found it to be so unpopular in front of the G series. Have you watched my review on it btw?.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJlzY61037vWn6c.html&pp=ygUUUHJvIHgxNnggdGVjaG5pYy1hbGk%3D ; Overall, I think the Pro 16X is a superior device compared to the G16. The Ultra chip mostly provdides battery savings.. but it is not faster than the 13th or 14th gen i9 processors.. I honestly even find it a bit 'sluggish' when using it on battery.

@@kazmiee Thanks for reply, and yes I have see both your video it was great , also which build quailty of this two you think is better and if the price is both same (2800 gbp and both for 3080 version , which one will you pick ) also I have a question for the zenbook pro it is 120hz screen but if I have external screen can I set over 120 hz if myy screnn is capable to has higher frame rate ? and also can I set my laptop screen to othere resolution like normal 2k or 1980 x 1080? thanks for your reply . The last thing I worryy about zenbook pro is the dust problem , I know there is 2 fan under the keyboard , so wiill it be hard if I manage to clean it? because it seems to be ez for dust get in for this kiind of design

heyy Vincent. Thank youu! Glad you liked my content. :)

I do absolutely love my Legion Go

You are quite eagle eyed eh? Yeah I have been meaning to put out a review for it but keep getting sidetracked with work. It can actually become quite noisy at full chat. I'd say louder than a desktop even at load, but I guess it does kind of work; what do you like about the Llano cooling pad?

@@kazmiee Yeah, it’s quite loud. I love the fact that it diminishes thermal throttling and significantly increases performance (I’ve done some benchmarks, and the improvement was substantial). I tried to undervolt my P1 (like I did with my X1 Extreme), but it’s now locked by the manufacturer after the Plundervolt vulnerability (CVE-2019-11157). So yeah, it’s a little workaround-a loud one-but it gets the job done😅

Ah man. I know the feeling; it was so cool that there was an affordable laptop out there that was so well built and had all the bells and whistles but now we have to get the Legion 9i for all that and it can be a bit pricey. :/

what is happening here?

Thank you Maroc! I guess I probably wont get alot of views on this, I feel the P1 is not a very popular device. Hehe. I am currently testing out the Legion 7i 2024.. will probably be comparing it to the new G16 as well.

Man its a gem, it will be a collectors item some day​@@kazmiee

Oh dang. Sorry man. I suppose I use it to drown out background distractions and conversations. I will consider removing it in the future. Thank you for the feedback. :)

Hey thanks PowRTorCH. Glad that you enjoyed my content - I am working on a review of the G16 vs the Legion 7i 2024. Stay tuned for that :)

haha thanks Imran! Glad you enjoyed my content. I should probably specify in the title that it is Gen 6 ; thank you for dropping me that like and for the feedback! will try to keep improving my content. :)

Oh absolutely! that definitely is the plan - as you can see, this video did not do very well. hehe I am not sure why though. But ill be sure to try again. Is there a popular device that you think I should look at?

Hey thanks Qsmtt. Really glad that you found my video useful. :)

Hey there. I most definitely mentioned that.. around the 7.10 and onwards mark. THAT.. plus the thermal throttling..both i believe in mentioned. Let me know of there is any specific detail I should mention in the future. Thank you! :)

Oh wow. Nice. I am excited for you! Well done you! Naturally the initial setup might be a little extensive compared to.. say.. a console... 1. Run windows update 2. Run asus armory crate, sign in, run updates - set GPU mode to ultimate (restart) and set performance tu turbo - remember that the laptop will work TIMES better when plugged in 3. Run geforce experience, update GPU drivers 4. Go to microsoft store > library > get updates / update all 5. Install game platforms.. steam, epic (fortnite) battlenet (call of duty), ubisoft (assassins creed, division) .. Steam should be the main platform though for getting games. So make sure to make an account there.. you should also get a complimentary xbox game pass.. so just claim it and get into playing some games right away for free (1-3 month subscription) I would say that should cover alot of the initial setup :)

@@kazmiee Ok got it, will give it a run tomorrow once i receive this bad boy, thanks.

@kazmiee Another quick question, would the asus g16 strix 4090 been a better labtop for gaming? the strix uses the i9-14900HX cpu while the Zuphyus uses the Ultra 9

@@selectaguru well. Yes. With the strix 4090, you can probably expect around a 15%-20% performance bump. But that is not because of th3 CPU but because of the GPU being able to take up more power (TGP) since the strix is a much thicker device and can manage a more robust cooling solution. The 4090 in the Zephyrus G16 will have a lower power limit.. around 120watts max and witht the strix..from what I understand, I think the 4090 would be able to manage close to 170 watts

Yeah. Not sure why they have not gotten into the 18 inch space. They should have showed something in computex but I dont think they did.

Hi Andreas. Really really glad to hear you enjoyed my content. I have T14s with the 13th gen intel from work. It... well.. it.. does the job. Hehe..wish we would have 16 inch models but oh well. The thermal throttling on the P1 was a bit dissapointing but yeah thinkpads will continue to be icons of productivity. I had the t480 in my previous job.

@@kazmiee at my desk i got the t14 gen 1, good keyboard, screen, battery but the build quality leaves much to be desired. the company i work at is now switching to hp, while they are sometimes sturdier, but the hinges are awful, they break super easily. i like thinkpads too, so boring i can actually focus.

Really? Feels like it would be quite a challenge to have 2 sodimms and 2 pcie slots and a 4090 with a vapor chamber.. but if you have it in your region, that is pretty awesome.

Only for the lower GPUs. 4070 for example. You don't get the vapor chamber, only the copper sink. I really think that a 4090 is overkill with no real benefits. The sweet spot is a 4070 with 2 M.2 slots and a 1440p display for games and productivity.

@@marcusdumitru 100% agreed. :)

@@marcusdumitru 4090 is overkill with no real benefit for sure, you can never properly cool it and get all performance out of it. Nevertheless, Im in central Europe and I was able to configure it with a 4090 and 2 SSDs.

Haha, in this case, I believe ALOT of people would be at fault. 9000 CAD is just a stupid amount of money for a laptop. you could get a maxed out Razer Blade 18 for that for way less than that. But anyway, even discounted, plenty of good options for a 4090 laptop :)

Especially their warranty / post sales servicing - it has been getting a lot of bad press; I also was victim to that with the Zenbook Pro 16x. These guys are producing so many SKUs; operations must be crazy complex to deal with quality issues

haha. I really appreciate that. Thank you for the kind words. Glad you liked my work. The upcoming Gen 7 P1 would probably be one of the first laptops to sport LPCAMM2 memory - I suppose the P1 still has a future in the thinkpad lineup. These guys need to freshen up the Vantage software for it though

Aww thanks Xuan Tan. Grateful for your encourgement. Hope I can continue to bring out content that you like :)

oh wow really? I remember in Canada I could not find anything less than a 4080. I think the top vent design is especially helpful to get with a 4080 atleast since this device has the thermal headroom to deal with the extra wattage. Hope you can find a 4080 variant soon. I actually decided to keep the Pro 16X; it is a masterpiece in the laptop space honestly.

@@kazmieeI found one but I ended up paying more than msrp on it. It was the only one I could find online so I guess it was worth it

Oh man you said it! I absolutely hated how they gutted the Legion 7 after the Gen 7 - Things were looking real good at that time especially since we had separate versions for Intel/Nvidia and Radeon/Ryzen. The Gen7 was just such a masterpiece. It literally covered all the bases. They just wanted to jack up the prices is all; which is why the Legion 9 came into view; Sure, we get a LITTLE more firepower with better thermals including a third fan and top side intakes (and a gimmicky water cooling solution) but they just charged wayyy too much man. I dont know if you got a chance to watch another video of mine but I think I ranted over the same things there: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ep1dgamgt6yZiJc.htmlfeature=shared - check it out if you can Having soo many options to chose from is definitely a bit confusing for the consumers out there. And its probably only going to get worse down the line though. I am actually looking forward to reviewing the new legion 7.. not the PRO version; feels like it was a step towards the Gen 7 design (without the RGB though) _ I just cant seem to find it in white in my region as yet; hope I find one soon and share my review of it with you all :)

@@kazmiee Already seen that video, been watching you for over a year now man!🙌🏽 And yeah, I think this year’s legion 7 is actually great, with a slim design and great thermals, just like how it used to be with the 2021 legion 7. I wish they bought the AMD advantage versions back, although AMD themselves arent doing a great job in shipping those chips and marketing. I am looking forward to AMD strix Halo gaming laptops from lenovo with the same form factor as the 2023 legion slim 7, although with upgradeable internals. I hope they don’t mess this up and release a separate product category, and just make A good gaming laptop. Lenovo is in the right direction with their legion 7 lineup, hope they dont screw this the next year, just so they can upcharge for a higher tier model, or remove features to justify the possibility of increased gpu and cpu prices next year…. Also possible Video Idea, can you talk about AMD strix halo, and what it means for the future of gaming laptop form factors in the future. I am especially concerned about the possibility of no user upgradeable ram just so you can get faster speeds from lpddr5x memory. Hope they don’t do that.

Hey Thanks Prajwal. Glad you enjoyed it. :)

Do you have a favorite brand these days?

@@kazmiee Acer apparently went from worst to best because of new ownership, they have renewed their brand

@@tac2456 I should definitely check out Acer's recent predator laptops and put out a review. Thanks for sharing your thoughs. Which laptop are you currently using?

@@kazmiee I'm using the one that you reviewed on this video, but because I didn't know the European version of the G18 strix 4070 has a terrible screen comparing to the American one, now I'm having a problem with my the right eye. Side by side with my old Asus laptop of 8 years ago, the old one has a much better screen (full hd), never had any problem with it. Of course I'm very disappointed.. 2310€ for a bad screen laptop...and to think that kids are using this, it's unbelievable.

@@tac2456 oh wow. That big a difference? Sorry to hear about that. Why would Asus do that? Are you planning to replace it soon?

Really cool you phrased it that way. I can certainly agree to that analogy. Did you recently get the Pro 16x?

Hey thanks Prajwal. That really helps lift my spirits. :)

You know what, i feel the same at times. A strange kind of sluggishness at times.. especially when I have it hooked to a 100w type c charge. Need to do more research into this. Will share if i find a solution

Thanks Viamo. That is certainly a good idea. My regular job just keeps me so tied up, by the time I publish something the sales would have passed. Hehe. Hopefully I can bring out more useful content for you guys down the road

Oh wow. And I am pretty sure stores would be charging a big premium over what Asus is usually retailing them for? I am guessing you are interested in getting the G16 with the 4080 or 4090?

@@kazmiee Got 4080

@@steffdia7080 nice. How are you liking it so far?

@@kazmiee Very good

Hey Shuaib, really greatful for your vote of confidence. It really means alot! Hope I can continue to make useful content for you guys :)

Browsing on the sofa? That would immediately mark the g18 off the list too thick, too heavy..the G16 will be PERFECT for your use case. And with occasional gaming, you should he covered by a 4060 or 4070. You dont have spend extra on 4080 or 4090. I would say though, make sure you get the 32 gig ram model. I think you will love the G16 for its elite portability

@@kazmiee many many thanks. Unfortunately i found it only with 16gb of ram at nearly human price with i9 185h and 4060. The 32gb (oled) version i found cost near twice. I found also with i7 150h and 4050. Do you Think the 16gb version is not enough? Asus is very bad nere beacuse at this price point every laptop would be with 32gb…

@@fabioslink5867 for gaming, even with AAA titles, I believe 16 gigs should suffice.. however as games are becoming bigger and bigger, they take a bigger chunk of ram. Sure, even the biggest titles would still work in the future for e.g. GTA 6..but if you are running such games with high graphical presets, there is a chance that stuttering within games CAN occur especially if you tend to keep multiple files open in the background.. SECONDLY.. for video editing, if you intend on working with large and long 4K files and are going to make say 30 minute to hour long videos, 32 gigs can definitelty be important. In my legion 7 premiere used to constantly give memory errors.. when I upgraded to 32 gigs, all was fixed. BUT.. TWICE.. the cost is pretty steep to be honest. Is the new Legion 7 on your list? I mean the NON pro version. It should still be relatively portable but still be made of premium materials and hardware, yet cost wayy less and give you better upgradeability options as well

@@kazmiee many thanks, in Italy is difficult to find a legion 7 oled at human price. I send a mail to asus to ask if is it possible to have a unit with the same specs with 4060 with 32gb ram because is absurd that the only units I can buy here have 4090 at inhuman price point. Now I wait for the answer. I love the slim profile and the oled screen is a must for me. Many thanks for your experience.

Anyway, I never edited files in 4K longer than 20 min and I will play gta 6 on ps5. So maybe (even if it pisses me off) 16gb might be enough but in future I don’t know. Let’s see what asus says.

Hey Dennis. Thank you for your comment. And congratulations on your G16; it is a beautiful machine isnt it? My understanding is that while the 4080 and 4090 will certainly have performance benefits over the 4070 but a fully powered 4080 vs the one in this can also have noticeable differences. Since I have not used a 4080 in the 2024 G16, I am actually curious to see how efficient it is and perhaps it might be able to perform better than I am expecting. If you could humor me and check out the 4080 benchmarks I have in my review of the Alienware benchmarks here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mcmhYMuSkpuZp6s.html and share with me the results from your 4080 G16, I would be happy to learn. :)

oof, that is a good question; I have alot of Razer Accessories tbh and it would make my setup complete again.. BUT.. the G16 is just way slimmer and lighter (which gives it an awesome feel) also poses a unique look with the slash; it also has the Ultra CPU which means better battery life. The Asus also has a more customizable command center ; though Razer has recently also made improvements to its Synapse software; I',m not happy that the G16 does not have per key RGB.. BUT.. I guess I quickly got over it - its not a big deal; it just adds to its 'dignified look'.. IF i was seeking an 4080 or higher, the Razer would be the practical choice (again ASSUMING same price) since it would have the fully powered one and the G16 would have limited power.. So bascially I can expect a 20% performance boost with the additional wattage on the Razer. With a 4060 though, I would stick it out with the G16. Hope that answer helps - sorry about the lengthy response :)

That is quite a breakdown you have here. I am honestly waiting for a Legion 7 in white to come in stock so I can get it and can put forward a comparison video with the G16.. the WHITE.. OMG... I have only been seeing it videos and I salivate at it just looking at it.. so I want it in white baaaad... Moving forward.. Without going into too many details and just doing an on-paper comparison, the Legion is easily the more practical choice ESPECIALLY because of the pricing. I mean it still has a premium build and competitive features and performance and yet it costs considerably less.. I have used every Legion Slim 7 laptop since the 6th generation and have been a total fan of these series. They are VERY easy to recommend to anyone honestly.. The G16 bascially has its supermodel slimness in its favor, the Intel Ultra CPU for long battery life, that slash on the lid and the OLED.. and that is about it. I am so glad it has 2 SSD slots. I get the feeling the 4080 one you had just had the one slot because the vapor chamber may have taken most of the space; so that definitely sucks. As for the OLED.. HONESTLY.. I only have that 'ooo nice wow' feel when I am on my windows desktop with that wallpaper that I have chosen to SPECIFICALLY highlight the deep blacks and high contrast.. otherwise, mid content or game, I barely realize the OLED goondess. It all feels the same to me.. So yeah, the IPS display still feels pretty good to me as well.. the OLED lifespan I believe manufactures have managed well through different options that reduce burnin to a big extent. I have had another Oled laptop since 3 years now and so far so good :) though I do take care not to use it on full brightness all the time and keep everything dark mode-ish.. The fan noise for sure I always expected the G16 to be louder because of its slim profile; and btw.. you mentioned that the gaming experience between the 4080 G16 and the 4070 L7iG9 was similar - that goes to show how underpowered that 4080 is that it is only matching the performance of the 4070; BUT.. on the other hand, I dont think we even GET a 4080 option of the Legion; So for those people out there who need more ram for their creative work and yet need something sleek and slimm the G16 might be one of very few options out there. So still a big achievement for the G16. Ill shut up now hehe

@@kazmiee Very fair run down, and ofcourse I didnt get them as "review units" but payed with my own money and used the 30 day return feature to make the conclusion, where I am from in the UK, the 4080 G16 is £3,399, compared to the Legion 7i which is £1,950 with 15% sale they have, now because I can luckily afford both, I didn't let the price affect my experience, you make a great point that some people just need that 4080 or 4090 with its extra ram, for me it wasnt a big issue even though I use blender and Houdini it does the job well, and ofcourse the OLED is a game changer, if the Legion had that option I would have opted to selecting that perhaps, for my 25 days of use, I felt the G16 gave me around 1.5 hours more battery than the Legion, which all things considered, the price, the similar feel in gaming etc, I didnt think 1.5 hours will make my life any different, I hope you can get the Glacier white Legion and compare them both, I will trust your judgement on them more than my own experience haha

That is a Huuuuuge price difference. wow. Funny enough, the only legion in the Canadian region with an OLED is the AMD based Slim 5 which also does not have a keypad because of the sort of 14-ish inch screen. Costs around 1600 CAD. Amazing value but never got the chance to get my hands on it. I have been hearing alot about Asus's piss poor customer servicing and RMA experience. Not sure how its like in the UK but can be pretty absurd here. The pro 16x that I got had a hardware issue with the keyboard out of the box. That it wont work. Like brand new. And they refused to replace it and said it can ONLY be repaired. Thankfully I bought it from a retailer who had the return policy

@@kazmiee Wow that sucks, for the amount of innovation Asus shows it sure ruins it in in their services and in my experience overpricing lol, by the way, just so youre aware, towards the end of my 30 day use (around 26th day) of the Legion 7i, I got black screen everytime I booted any game, the only way it got fixed is when I booted the game without the laptop on charge and then plugged the charger in when the game was booted up, I did some digging on the internet, some people had a similar issue and some with other 2024 laptops, apparently its an Nvidia issue, but even today someone told me they ran into a similar problem with their Legion 7i, so be wary that if it occurs for you when you manage to pick it up its not just you, although hopefully by the time you get your hands on it Nvidia has fixed it or theres a more clear answer as to why this happens

@@JT11111 Oh wow. Well thanks for letting me know. I almost gave up yesterday and almost ordered the 7i in GREY.. but thought to hold on it. I already have a project in hand.. got a Lenovo Thinkpad with an RTX 4090. thought it would be fun to see how a corpo brand would do at gaming. Hehe.. hope I can get into edit and publish it soon. And yeah man. I can only Imagine that Asus's strategy is to just flood the market with all kinds of laptop for every kind of user without thinking maintenence. Warranty is just for show. These guys just want us to buy their stuff. Hopefully the G16 can be a good companian for me that can last a while.

Hey nice to hear from you again Maroc.Glad to hear that you continue to watch my content. :)

​@@kazmieeman always, i rewatch them. Brings me good vibes. Greetsz

Really? I mean sure it has its moments but at 1200P, It actually performs pretty well.. Again using Radeon Super Resolution :)

Oh yeah? the Loq I have been using actually worked pretty flawlessly, No issues so far. But yeah perhaps there is some evidence to your point of view; I feel that Asus's F15 and the HP Victus and other budget competition is way more popular than the LoQ series.