modern day skateboards are nor will they ever be a better option than these shaped decks. popsicle decks are just as bland as modern day skateboarders are. you see one youve seen them all. shaped decks back then had riders who were unique and fun to watch. today's skaters are all the same just like popsicle decks. you are correct. modern day skaters have 0 personality lol.

I’ve been skating the first iterations of the trucks ever since I noticed the company is now back in business but I have since lost one of the grub screws and have not been able to find a replacement. Might you happen to know what the name of the screw is? Thank you in advance, I really appreciate your review.

You’re friend has a nice tre flip on that board

Damn, you got nicer

I have never tried to use Ventures as a curb specific truck. I find them to be a great all around truck though I do swap in Indy orange replacement bushings because I find the Venture bushings blow up as soon as they're broke in just like Thunder bushings. I skated a set until the axled and then switched to Grindking Kingpins and rode them on various mess around set ups for a few more years until I left my mess around deck sitting there while I skated my normal deck and someone stole them. So I can't say how much more life I would've got out of had they not turned up missing.

3 years late but thank you I got a few new decks in and were obnoxiously loud and this solved it plus I needed the speed cream! ✍️🫡🏆💎📺🛹💯

Amazing!!! Very inspiring

Such a great review! Thank you.

Hey how’s it going❓haven’t been here in a little while decided to go through my subscription’s…I’m pretty much a new skateboarder I only had skateboards for a little while as a kid…I got really good at roller skating as a kid though but it was like a social thing…anyways I got my 7.5 Element with slime balls light up’s the beginning of April and broke my arm the first day it’s been real good for like the last month but is still a little bit getting stronger anyways I like your channel and I was so into it still am I got a new complete when my arm had recently broke it’s a Silas board with clouds ☁️ wheels and I got a set of triple eight pads anyways I’ve been skating still in the apartment on wood floor…sorry so long I also am a music artist I got it’s Class Of 2004-Topic‼️

Did you try the Spitfire 93s? I'd love to hear how they compare to these.

you shred bro! i love how the bean plant made a come back

my man said" dont worry its not mine" lmao you tell them skater. i wont even touch a scooter because i can see my cool points getting lower just thinking about it. skaters skate long boarders ride. we arent the same creatures.

i dont have any of these trucks but that set screw is in the baseplate reminds me of old fashioned door knobs. it probably holds the nut that the kingpin goes into to keep it from turning. you could put some teflon tape or lock tite on the little screw and that should prevent it from coming out. for as much as these costs they should address that at the factory. those axle nuts are just silly. thanks great job once again family

What deck and trucks are you riding?

I ended up buying rictas and some OJs because I couldn't decide

Thanks for the review, these wheels cost 65-75 quid in Britain so gonna give em a miss for now. I have 78a Ricta clouds and 97a slimeballs for softer options

Wonderful video!

Like watching your skating, the hits and the misses. 1st NB skate shoe- like it a lot.

thank you!! you saved me $120 because I was going to buy 8 pcs for my roller skates❤

Whoa!! Really cool. Another skating gun enthusiast like David Grabette and Sticker Steve. Really awesome. Also I dug that Full Metal Jacket round. Would love to see this test done with an ever slick VX deck.

The trick is you only go for 90°

Great video thanks! Love my Rictas, but starting some thick slimeballs for cruising

my man was straight up killing it on that old school board. your a skate and destroy guy like me. the gnarly has to be there for me

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Hey Thorne I’d love to see a tutorial vid on your FS/BS grab airs! You got them real nice buddy

pulled the trigger on one of these gonna try them with 109s i’ll keep yall updated

How do you think these compare with the OJ Nomads?

your a grinding fool kid! hell yeah!

Looks like a Real piece of crap.

Hi Thorne, I was wondering if could do an experiment on wheels that touches on a somewhat unclear part of their shapes and duro. I like the shape and feel of wider and softer wheels, but they obviously make the board quite heavier and get sticky. What I would love to see is a methodical showcase of exactly how well they roll, and how they grip. If wheels with the same diameter but different shape and duro were set up on identical boards, (or switching out just the wheels on one setup) then one would ride down a hill leading to a flat area, starting from standstill at the same spot and going down the same trajectory, the difference would be clear instead everyone saying 'I think it's faster/smoother.' Comparing crusty and smooth surface, or doing this with speedometer(gps..?) would be great too to see how exactly they speed up and slow down.

i tried using the rubbery type of 1/8th inch shock pad risers and they caused me to slam during a high speed slide to slow down on a hill. they flexed and i was vaulted forward. im trying to warn people. you dont want this hip injury trust me on this. i should have just used wooden ones. i suspect they feel more natural and probably wont twist and flex like these. if you dont do what i do , this might not concern you.

i have these wheels too and i agree with every opinion you have on them. i had unreal expectations of them after using the dragons 93a

i just moved from indy 159s to 169 titaniums, i always change stock bushings since the 80s. do you think its worth changing the pivot cup to this one? and is it a compromise for turn quality for longevity? and off topic is real denim worth the cost? also that axle rethreader would be very useful if you were to mess the axles up with the nut on the axle when it would be near impossible to get a normal tap set on as you wouldnt be able to get your wheels off

Hood or bumper style hanger

When he turns back and sees OJ wheels dead on the ground 😂😂😂

Loved the little shitpost

I ride that same with YOW Legasee trucks 129mm and it works great 👍

99a at my rough af local. Never changing

Great video thanks buddy , watched a few of your videos and they are great keep up the good work. Just have a question for you.... my only complaint with the dragons is that i don't like the sound when they slide, too quiet for me. Would you say the spitfires make more of a loud bark like traditional f499s?

can never go wrong with ricta edit: also from experience anything below 85a is a cruising only wheel, 85a is hard enough to street skate and a bit of park, but wheels like these 78's is nasty on tricks

Rather pick something I can afford… SLIMEBALLS!!!!!

i think one big thing to notice is: in the 80s and early 90s Vert skating was THE shit! Big Boards = less wobble!

The popsicle shape came out from the old "Double-Tail" Decks imho.. Like the one Andy Anderson made

Totally see where you are coming from on that. The dragons are a little slower I feel. But I feel my back and feet just feel so much better. When I wear these out I will try the new Spitfires. I wanted to try the OJ double duro but the price was so much higher.

i totally agree with everything you said. i leave for a few years and all of the skaters have become conformist followers. that was a fat frontside air kid

I used to skate big stair sets and all that but I'm old now and these boards are dope for af

They flstspot .otherwise they are nice to ride . Never got any flatspot on my dragon's. So i would give these SHITFIRES 5 out of ten ..

The height on the 11s depends on baseplate. Some are 53.5mm (forged baseplate) and others are 55mm tall(standard) The difference is 1.5mm which is 1/16". All stage 4s are 55mm tall. EDIT** Also from independent themselves.. "Stage 4s offer approximately .23" shorter Wheelbase

What do you think about shock pads, reduce vibratuons in the streets? Less broken boards?

Give this guy some more likes y'all! Great extended review not normally seen on a single component. Picked these up on sale $50CAD/$36USD for the 56mm. Haven't got a chance to try them yet but happy that they sound like exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for the video!