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@hartlytartly
@hartlytartly Ай бұрын
There's some context to be added to the shutdown/startup time. The M1/2/3 chips are "cheating" by not actually turning off, but rather entering a deep hibernation. The intel Macs suspends the tasks to the SSD while the M1/2/3 chips suspend to memory, the reaosn they can do this and the intel can't is because of increased energy efficiency, so it is still the advantage of the M1/2/3 macs. If you want to truly turn off the M-series macs you'll need to either hold the power button in, or drain the battery completely.
@nicholasprinz6761
@nicholasprinz6761 Ай бұрын
Great video but i feel like it’s a pretty unfair test with the machines running on battery. Puts the i9 at a disadvantage since all intel laptops drop performance dramatically when on battery. Do you have a video with both machines on power?
@a.rezat.soltani8438
@a.rezat.soltani8438 Ай бұрын
Your test looked somehow fun. Comparing 2019 with 2023? Booting up a relatively old, stuffed version of win 11 on intel vs a cleaner, fresh-looked one on m2. Yeah yeah, we all now m2 is fast. I just look for a fairer comparison for chip leap. Which definitely yours isn't. Need to explain more? 😄
@chiumak3841
@chiumak3841 2 ай бұрын
I think it's nothing about the processor, it's about the different SSD speed between them, m2 MAC's SSD is way more faster than the old MAC, it's base on PCIE 4.0 bus, up to 8000MB/s
@d3vd4s
@d3vd4s 2 ай бұрын
quick, no bs, no wasting time, showed real world differences. I love this man already, u got a new subscriber
@checkanr138
@checkanr138 2 ай бұрын
fake startup time - my macbook pro would never take that long to startup - probably there was an update.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 2 ай бұрын
I suspect it might have been doing a disk check...
@rumax3440
@rumax3440 3 ай бұрын
Nice video comparison. But does it also takes into account other HW, for example hard drive? Additionally would be nice to see comparison of such tasks as "npm" together with "time" util to understand why it is so slower.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 2 ай бұрын
There are plenty of benchmark videos, or stats and specs videos online to show that stuff, this was to show real world difference
@ZCFilms
@ZCFilms 3 ай бұрын
My 2015 Macbook Pro opens Photoshop at least as fast as the 2019 one...
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 2 ай бұрын
crazy eh
@Max_Eye
@Max_Eye 4 ай бұрын
Hey, I´m in the market for a Macbook and in my budget i could either go full out on the M2 Air or the MBP you tested. The air would be the base 13" (which is a bit small) and its bottlenecked by the 8gb ram and im not sure for which one to go, as the i9 seems like a more "pro" and quirky laptop (touchbar aso). What would you recommend?
@chrishill2489
@chrishill2489 4 ай бұрын
I have a iMac 27inch 5k which I use only for PS and LR and have been thinking of chopping it in for the pro m2 or now the m3 pro as the iMac is to bulky and cannot travel obviously. What the feed back on this please as I have found your illustrations of the apple products the best so far and easy to understand📸👍🍺🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@XDATT
@XDATT 4 ай бұрын
My i9 MacBook Pro wakes from sleep instantly not sure what's wrong with your machine
@FunnyMonkey_04
@FunnyMonkey_04 5 ай бұрын
I wanted to boot kali linix on my m1 but unfortunately i couldnt.
@ballpen9157
@ballpen9157 5 ай бұрын
hi, can you try bootcamp on mac 2019 vs m2 parallel?
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 5 ай бұрын
Sorry you can't run bootcamp on M1, M2 or any other M series chips. Only Parallels, running an ARM version of windows.
@misterscruffle
@misterscruffle 5 ай бұрын
I have the last 2019 MacBook Pro and wondering if I should upgrade to M3 Max now.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 5 ай бұрын
Yip! The m3 will be awesome :)
@mrti3
@mrti3 23 күн бұрын
I found it may be worth keeping if you want to run windows like old games, or older intel based programs.
@adredy
@adredy 5 ай бұрын
real life open app close app restartt :D
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 5 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one to find that exciting
@8peterp
@8peterp 5 ай бұрын
at this stage anything without Apple silicon is a hackintosh
@carlix1112
@carlix1112 5 ай бұрын
This just makes me realise even more how much I need a new laptop. I'm using a 2018 i9 6core MBP and the fans come on while I'm booting up. It's ridiculous. Can see why Apple ditched Intel. Don't even get me started on the Touch Bar. What a lull in Apple's history. Selling crap for thousands to fools like me. Glad to know the M chips are that much better. Should get mine at the end of the month. Can't wait.
@MrBorderdown
@MrBorderdown 5 ай бұрын
This isn't "real world" anything or a measurement of performance. Every single thing "tested" here is just the faster NVME hard drive. That's it. New RAM is non-volitile. It doesn't have to save to risk, depending on the actual power state. These aren't turning fully off like you think.
@fieldscarlisle2473
@fieldscarlisle2473 5 ай бұрын
I feel like my 2005 iMac G5 was faster than your i9 MBP lol. At least when it comes to startup and shutdown. Wtf took so long???
@jdthompson4197
@jdthompson4197 6 ай бұрын
Would LOVE to see this same performance review with your 2019 intel Macbook Pro vs Macbook Pro M3 Pro when you can!
@taysthetic
@taysthetic 6 ай бұрын
I paid $4000+ with maxed out specs for the MBP 2018, Intel i9 6 Core, Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB, 32 gb ram, and it's painfully slow now... The fact I paid for what I thought was "top of the line" and now lags like crazy. Gonna get the M3 now 🥲
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Oooh the m3 looks super nice, do it!
@mmarsbarr
@mmarsbarr 6 ай бұрын
Hey that Windows software you're running "SeeYou", is it an x86 application running on the Arm version of Windows or did you have to get the Arm version of that windows software?
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Hi it’s an x86 app, no chance they’ll be making an arm Version anytime soon. So that’s running in the Windows x86 emulation mode (equivalent to Rosetta on the Mac)
@mmarsbarr
@mmarsbarr 6 ай бұрын
@@squircle-design can any x86 app run in this Emulation mode ? I run data software like SQL server, power Bi and Cognos. This is the one thing stopping me from upgrading my intel based Mac so when I saw your video with an x86 app running on Windows arm my eyes lit up.
@crosi9472
@crosi9472 6 ай бұрын
*PromoSM* ✅
@N3tigen
@N3tigen 6 ай бұрын
M2 MacBook has Ram also powerful.
@DadisLT
@DadisLT 6 ай бұрын
Omg Intel macs need to be pluged in to electrically powered to compare their performance.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Nah the Mac intel machines have always performed the same. It’s only other pc brands that do that.
@benzakonium
@benzakonium 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to do this. The best performance test I've seen. Actually something relevant!
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@wasi1
@wasi1 6 ай бұрын
That blew up my mind man! It was helpful 🙌🏽
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@RueLeBastards
@RueLeBastards 6 ай бұрын
This is what I've been looking for!
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@aettic
@aettic 7 ай бұрын
That issue with the Intel MacBook getting hot and draining the battery while it's supposed to be in sleep mode is evidently a problem that plagues most modern laptops. I don't know why, exactly, but I've seen some videos about it, because I noticed it on my own i9. I'm guessing that the M2 will have a similar problem, but I don't know for sure. I think it's more of a software issue. It also happens with Windows laptops.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure earlier intel MacBooks didn't have that issue though??
@tomgroth3455
@tomgroth3455 6 ай бұрын
I have an original surface pro x that I bought about the same time as this 2019 MacBook was released. It drains like that these days but didn’t at launch. It would sleep properly. Don’t have time to figure out why. I just know I never had to charge it when I first bought it and pulled it out of my bag to work. And now I always do.
@victoriusnik
@victoriusnik 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate the video! Gotta say I’m really impressed my the quality of the 25x zoom. I didn’t even think it could be that useful.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 6 ай бұрын
Yeah agreed, I guess for video the quality is a bit less important than for photos, so it's still adequate for video?
@adrianroberts7478
@adrianroberts7478 7 ай бұрын
That stabilisation is super impressive, especially on the extreme telephoto. Go on, you know you want one!
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 7 ай бұрын
Not bad eh! I sure do, but I also want to be able to eat...
@theosudarja
@theosudarja 7 ай бұрын
Oh lord. Now I'm a believer
@ewan_young
@ewan_young 7 ай бұрын
great test skipping the rubbish ! i love your pure glide channel, nice to see your second one about tech
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Ewan! More to come at some stage...
@TheChris91173
@TheChris91173 7 ай бұрын
Something wrong with that I9computer. Do a fresh install
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it was definitely better at booting after a fresh install. I think it was doing a disk check every boot.
@derrickenamazameti8192
@derrickenamazameti8192 7 ай бұрын
Excellent tests. Just what I was looking for. Thanks
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tellisecfive9410
@tellisecfive9410 8 ай бұрын
Apple should pay for this video.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 7 ай бұрын
If only!
@silas30
@silas30 8 ай бұрын
This does nothing to show the actual differences/strengths and weaknesses between intel and apple silicone CPUs. A brand-new computer will outshine a 4-year-old machine any day, that's just a fact.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
There are plenty of benchmark comparison videos, this is to show what it's like in real life going from an older intel machine to an m2. Cheers for watching!
@robeckel4965
@robeckel4965 8 ай бұрын
Oh, hi Tim! I didn't know you had another channel besides Pure Glide, and just randomly ran upon this today when researching an upgrade for my work Macbook. Good comparison!
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
Oh hai! Thanks :) wait until you see my van channel haha
@robeckel4965
@robeckel4965 8 ай бұрын
@@squircle-design I haven't gotten into the van YT channels yet, but if you ever make a sailboat channel, I'll be there in a heartbeat! A camper van would be really nice to haul my glider to contests, though...
@TNATNA100
@TNATNA100 8 ай бұрын
The difference in today's price Astronomical macbook pro 2018-2019 Second hand, much cheaper than the second hand m1-2 counterparts Not to mention new ones I bought a MacBook Pro 13 2018 in Israel for 2000 shekels i7 16 512 macbook air m1 8 256 It costs NIS 3700 new here So true m1 battery time is much better And in some things faster But for my needs as a help desk who also learns Linux, that is completely enough I also installed Win10 for remote work (my workplace does not support Mac) And that is enough Battery time is good enough And the software comes up fast enough makbook air does not officially support two external screens either Need an expensive adapter And I work on 2 screens I connect one usb c to usb c the second usb c to hdmi
@TomLawson
@TomLawson 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely should not have watched this. I’m running pretty close to the same Intel MacBook (i9 with 32GB mem and 2TB SSD). I guess I knew it was increasingly slow and clunky (partly reflecting increased resource demands from apps and OS). But, you nailed it. The differences are far more dramatic than you we’ve come to expect based on 3 years and a couple of generations. It’s still challenge to consider the costs involved and I suspect the re-sell on my 2019 will also be impacted the improvements in the M1 and M2 machines. Since transitioning from Windows to MacOS a little over ten years ago, I’ve generally waited 4 years or more to upgrade but the performance differences were never this dramatic.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
One thing to check is that your current laptop isn't full of dust, open it up and blow it out clean, might help a bit :) otherwise yes it's SO much faster and better
@aakefkhan7639
@aakefkhan7639 9 ай бұрын
This is the type of video I've been looking for for so long, Thank you you've just earned a subscriber. And Apple another $2000...bloody hell man 😂
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
Haha great to hear and sorry about your wallet
@hassaanraj
@hassaanraj 9 ай бұрын
I must say a perfect comparison video. Good job mate! this helped a lot.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@brendoz
@brendoz 9 ай бұрын
ur 2019 mbp is bricked lol
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
haha nearly not quite
@randarmax
@randarmax 9 ай бұрын
I didn't have to watch any further than 1:43 once I heard him groan waiting for the the login of the 2019 machine. I've made my decision.
@The--Equalizer
@The--Equalizer 9 ай бұрын
What is the battery time and efficiency compared to an unplugged xps 15 is it a major reduction in terms of power,batterry and performance? Also how different when running windows on mac? Thanks
@VIsTheMusic
@VIsTheMusic 9 ай бұрын
My i9 maxed out mbp boots up in a split second. It's still pristine and thinner and notchless beautiful beast. I'll wait for the M6 thanks. 😅
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
fair enough!
@Dilandau88
@Dilandau88 10 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if I can trust anyone with a dock on the left 😅
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 9 ай бұрын
haha yeah I don't trust me either... but seriously it's in a reading left to right order and heirachy! Anywhere else is just wrong... :P
@Youtuber_YusukeFromGermany
@Youtuber_YusukeFromGermany 10 ай бұрын
Because of your video I can never ever buy an Intel Macbook anymore.
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 9 ай бұрын
Good decision!
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 10 ай бұрын
crickets and rattlesnakes smh distracting
@E-Idaho
@E-Idaho 10 ай бұрын
I never understood why people think laptop is all about premiere, Photoshop and Lightroom! actually I never interested in these softwares, my field of work needs CSI (Etabs, SAP, SAFE), Staad Pro, Tekla Structures, Bentley Softwares, Autocad civil 3D and so many of them is not available in mac os. Is it possible for you to check if ARM version of windows on M2 can run CSI Etabs for example ?
@squircle-design
@squircle-design 8 ай бұрын
Probably because that's what people who make videos use a lot of...