That's a great idea. I have another timely project I'm working on right now, but I could do a similar "in-depth" collection where I focus on individual moves after that :)

You're welcome :)

I have a few different ones over the years, but all but this one is from Tekken 7! It's a popular topic lol. Within this video itself: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btqXfcV-2MDMpI0.html Tekken 7 character guide segment: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7p0YJWH07eskn0.html First standalone video I made on it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb6Gl6uVyJfUYHU.html Second standalone video I made on it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g6yHkpifpsnPd6M.html

@@AFriendlyTree applicable to Tekken 8? also is it worth learning? 😬

@@daeron_spes the principles for performing them are the same, so these videos should all still help. They are worth learning in Tekken 8 for max damage and improved wall carry. Most BnBs I currently recommend have X2-3 butterflies in them

@@AFriendlyTree Thank you master

I'm glad you think so! :)

A lot of it will come down to practice and getting a feel for the timing yourself. I think a key thing I was trying to show in the timestamped section was that I was generally doing SS+1~B~B+u, as in, I was holding the b from the backsway then pressing the up. The hard part for me is releasing the b and the u at the same time, otherwise you get the backflip. If you're getting the sidestep chop, that's ub+1 and suggests to me that you're pressing the attack button too early, or without first letting go of the directional buttons. Does this help at all?

@@AFriendlyTree Thank you so much I think what you just wrote in tandem with rewatching the videos are starting to click. Things I did after reading: I slowed it way way down, I should have listened to you when I believe in another video you mentioned that starting off slow is best while then building speed. I think I was gun-ho from the onset and the speed wasn't making me understand the inputs I was doing. So, 1) I slowed down the inputs 2) I applied what you said, about the up when in backsway and releasing on time. I started getting the backflips, I did backflips a few more times to understand why they were coming out as backflips, and then I started releasing them on the same time. The SS1 cancels are starting to come out with the exact inputs you used in the video. It still feels uncomfortable and I'm still going very slowly, hoping to check back either in here or discord once I can do it in full speed. I suspect it will take me much longer than 45 min of practice though lol Thanks again for the time you take in teaching all who are willing to learn. It's incredibly appreciated!

:( I hope everything is alright

Thanks, will do!

I hope this has helped you with the Asuka match-up :) Some things will have changed from Tekken 7 to Tekken 8, especially with the attack reversal window changing.

Excellent! How are you finding it?

Loving it. Feels like a brand new game. Getting used to the jump button positions and not sure which one I'll use as the T16 has jump in WASD and hitbox style. So far I find Nina's sidestep 1 or jump 3 or 4 easier with WASD . Thanks for all your videos and advice, haven't played Tekken since Tekken 4 and now that I'm in my 40s I appreciate all the help I can get to have an edge 😂

I feel like I'm in a similar situation really. There are aspects of using a hitbox which I find a lot easier, but I'm still much more comfortable with the Nina-specific execution when I play on stick. The exception being Hayashida step because that's much easier to do on hitbox. For now, this is going to be my main video guide for displaying my inputs. I could look into releasing some shorts demonstrating some specifics over the, but that'll come after my current project.

Thanks Chai! I hope you've been well since BAM. When you are trying Nina, feel free to message me if I can help at all.

It's never too late, and as long as you're enjoying it :). How are you finding SF6 on leverless? I've been playing pretty much every fighting game exclusively on leverless, but SF6 would be the one I've played the most...next to Tekken at least.

Oh hey, there was a pattern. Oops, my bad!

Great timing! The Haute products seem awesome. If I didn't already have my snackbox, I'd probably get one too.

As someone who’s played a lot of pad and some stick (back in the end of arcade days mainly) I say if you want to get a stick and or leverless just do it. They are fun to play with at the least. My favorite part about leverless is that it’s just less strain and mental work to use. Once you get used to it of course. Also, I don’t even really use shortcuts and I still do well enough.

@TwoyBwoy yeah the movement is more relaxed especially wave dash and qcf .on pad only thumb you use .

I don't think there are any limitations to becoming a good player with pad. Many top players in the world play pad and you'll generally find that there's a mix for any character as well. People play what they feel most comfortable, or what will help them enjoy the game the most generally. If you want to buy a new device because you think you'll enjoy it, go for it! If you're doing it because you think it'll make you a better player, I think you have the same potential if you stick to pad :)

Sorry about the audio. I have the music set to duck when I'm talking and the keyframes are auto-generated. There may have been an issue with those keyframes. The db+2 into qcf+4,3,1+2 is still very tricky, but what I'm doing is using the directional input buffer to input f,qcf while Nina is in hitstun from the db+2. This is an input buffer change they made in Tekken 8 where you can perform a dash immediately out of recovery, and in this situation you're "storing" the f and qcf but only the x2 f motions register as something that can be performed instantly. The game performs what it understands, but stores the rest for when it can perform it once out of recovery. I hope my explanation isn't too confusing, but that's my understanding of it.

@@AFriendlyTree oooooh so that's a new thing, cause I was familiar with the input and motion buffering concept but couldn't grasp how you did it in this case, thank you for the clear explanation

Why would I do that? I don't see any patterns in my videos that would suggest me doing a hitbox video? 😵

Hey mate, didn't I link you videos on this very thing quite recently? Df+3,2~db+2 is the notation people have given for doing a df+3,2 into a db+2 for combos. The more accurate notation would be df+3,2~b~db+2 and what you're doing is cancelling Nina's df+3,2 into a backsway with a back input (this is new to Tekken 8), then once you're performing the backsway, instantly inputting db+2. As the cancel is a back input, the game will also perform the backsway if you press down+back. So most people input it as df+3,2~db+2

Good tip! As long as she's in the beginning of her backsway, it will work. That combo formula is what I'd generally recommend right now. x2 power hits, x2 bufferflies, df+3,2~db+2, dash db+3+4

I think she has a lot of hard to use tools and executionally demanding combos, but she's strong and can function well with a pretty simple gameplan as well. She isn't a simple character, but I think her entry level is lower than many other characters

@@AFriendlyTree agree

LMAO same

I'll be releasing it tonight (about 7h from this post) 😀

The way I hold the pad is definitely not the only way and I'm sure the way you hold it is fine. Any controller you use will involve a lot of time investment to improve and they each have their own advantages, so I really need to suggest that you invest that time into whichever one you enjoy using the most! I hear people say that it takes a few months to get proficient on a new controller, but I feel like a year is a more realistic timeframe, at least to reach a level where you're comfortable enough to not be putting additional thought into eqch action

Are you sure? I might release a video showcasing how to play Tekken on a Guitar Hero controller soon! 🤣

@@AFriendlyTree do it with a DDR pad, I have

Oh? What's happening when you try? evil mist is easier in Tekken 8 and the input is qcf+2+3. So if you can do any qcf move, it should be the same. My first suggestion is that perhaps using a button mapped to 2+3 might make it a little easier to do.

Thank you :)

Much appreciated!

Sure thing. Coming soon!

It is cool, not only do we have unique expression in how we play the character, but also in how we perform our chosen actions xD It's incredibly rare for me to play on pad but this is the way I learned to do it around 15 years ago, and it still feels comfortable for me.

You're very welcome. I'll have a video like this released for stick and hitbox shortly as well :) The small SS before the combo ender is very much combo-specific. If you've done an extra hit than I have used for my demonstration in this video, a small SS can still be necessary to allow the 2nd hit of qcf+4,3,1+2 to connect.

@@AFriendlyTree awesome, thanks for the reply! I’m looking forward to the stick demonstration since I got my first one at the beginning of this year

I still am. This video is the only time I can recall playing a fighting game on pad in a long time. At least since I got my leverless. That being said, I did play on pad for most of Tekken 5-6 outside of the arcade, and I would use pad when labbing on my laptop in Tekken 7

@@AFriendlyTree I am shocked at the level you kept on it !

​@@AFriendlyTreeis the a significant difference from playing on pad vs leverless?

You're welcome :)

Absolutely 💯 💥💥💥💥💥🔫🔫

Repeatedly

100% that's a great suggestion!

How do you swap l3 with r3 in the game? This seems good

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I'm far more comfortable with K-Lever than I am with pad, and find it much more enjoyable...As you'll see in my next video. But honestly, the answer is that you should play whichever one you have more fun using! As you already have both, at least there's no extra cost in your choice :)

Thanks. I do have a better microphone, but it wasn't set-up for this video. Most of the video is a pretty informal tour of the merch just using my phone. I hope you find the audio quality on my other recent videos a bit better :)

That's very kind. I do feel incredibly privileged to have been given this amazing collection. The Lidia box is something I got from Bandai Namco before her release in Tekken 7 and it has lots of cool stuff inside. I made a video when I received it and you can check it out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdZpZ8ekqp7XmWw.htmlsi=SpIjaY5raX2l1wuf

Hey, don't get discouraged, it is tricky and a lot of people are struggling with it! Have you checked out my video on the matter, and the section in my character guide? Initial video on df+3,2~db+2: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sL6Ihtd2qcCsm3k.html Timestamp in character guide for df+3,2~db+2: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btqXfcV-2MDMpI0.html If those aren't helping, please let me know and we can arrange a way for me to review your attempts and provide some more guidance :)

That's so awesome to hear. Keep it up! :D

Hey mate, of course I remember you! I'm doing well thanks. I hope that you are too :) I've made 2 videos on this matter. My first video was a quick one because it's an issue so many people have been asking about, and you can find it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sL6Ihtd2qcCsm3k.html My second video is the character guide where I have a section dedicated to execution. Here is the timestamp for df+3,2~db+2: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btqXfcV-2MDMpI0.html

You're too kind, and so was the person who gave me all of these things! I didn't even know some of them existed 😮