A perpetual motion machine?

it is supposed to be always heavier on one side

testing various configurations of pulleys/levers/ and weights

Hi Sinanoz, wow! your project looks very interesting and promising! My wheel tests here are just a hobby, but ive learned from long past inventions, the whole utility patenting/ investors/r&d/marketing/manufacturing process is a long hard road. There's a good book by Bob Dematteis (who invented the plastic grocery bags/systems we use every day.) He explains how to ''short-cut'' the process without making same mistakes most us inventors make. Best of luck to you! thanks.

@@lindaellison899 Thank you.

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unfortunately, no perpetual motion here

thank you.

Thanks, but it's not really figured out until it self-turns. Anyone is welcome to test it. Maybe with a much better ''hook-release'' design.

lol!

Testing a theory of motion using levers, weights and pulleys.

@@lindaellison899 I'm way too sober to understand this comment

@@abusement_park lol! it's just another configuration of mechanisms that may (or may not) be similar to Johann Bessler's self-turn wheel of 1712. orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/viewer/piresolver?id=1345798641226 www.besslerwheel.com/

It seems that for over a year they've been trying to create a perpetual motion machine. This is literally impossible but many people are deluded enough to think that they might exist.

The videos are for a small group who enjoy the artwork constructed in Merseburg, and Weissenstein by J.E.E.Bessler The contraption is a peritrochium for tests and experiments of various configurations and mechanisms.

@@lindaellison899 that’s pretty cool man. Thank you for informing me on that.

@@Essence1123 wait. Is that really what they’re trying to achieve here??? If true, that’s madness. Use your energy for better things

@@Essence1123 Even if there was motion, it would eventually fall apart, wear out, or break down far short of ''infinity'' or ''perpetuity.''

There is always friction. Here the main pivot points use Husqvarna roller bearing pulley.asm.22+awd Part#587973001

testing a theoretical configuration that may (or may not) have been used in Bessler's self-turn wheel of 1712. thanks www.besslerwheel.com/

This one is a no-go. Test theory #3 might be closer to Bessler's configuration. thanks

I think they're trying to break the laws of physics by making a perpetual motion machine.

These are just some tests/experiments/theories of how Bessler's self-turn wheel of 1712 may have worked. thanks www.besslerwheel.com/

yes, the constantly changing ''up-right-down-left'' forces from wheel to pivot points of levers haven't figured out yet either! thanks=)

@@lindaellison899 it's not complicated. Throw besslers foolish ramblings in the trash and study the simple physics of what is going on. Bessler intentionally wanted to confuse and mesmerize. He was successful.

@@QuantumEnergySearch the physics would be like throwing a duffle bag over the shoulder. First swing in, then swing out and up over.

@@lindaellison899 yes, i do this type of thing moving heavy object all the time, as long as it's not too heavy, but you can for example lift a bucket 2 feet up by manipulating the handle with almost no effort.

@@QuantumEnergySearch Exactly! The ''bucket'' in Weissensteinia prima Figura, MTs 29,46,62,98,101, 122,123. Same bucket/cup ratio/measurement is hearts-14,27,130 paddles-52,55 swing seats-85,86 bellows-81,125,129 hammers-133,139. From the overlaid bible verses, the ''heart'' swings in at 8 o'clock to bounce up/out at 1:30 o'clock and ''rest or dwell'' on the hook. (ps37;3-5, prov3;5, lam3;41, phil3;20, etc)

yes, thankyou. had better Rythm in tests 3 & 4. wondering if flailing can be timed more @ 1 o'clock, before abandoning the approach. You have some ideas for other methods outside of the wheel? (ur right about the fundamentals1sam8;1-20) thanks=)

​@@lindaellison899 maybe use a combination of magnet(s) and/or pendulum(s).

@@Someone-A3 yes, good ideas. May be with the right combination. thanks.

yes thanks

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Tests to prove or disprove the theory that Bessler's 140 verses in ''Apologia'' overlay his 141 drawings to represent various mechanisms of his wheel.

​@@lindaellison899 i did a little research about what you said. So it is a kind of gravity based perpetual motion device. I read two papers papers called Impulse Power secrets and Energy Impulse Secrets by M.kanarev. they claim to build a self running generator and created a new law called the inertial increase of electrical power. It involves the impulse of inertia using gravity like what you have here. So you might can get something from the papers.

testing a theory of Bessler's 140 verses overlaying his 141 drawings to find the ''hidden'' mechanisms in his self-turn wheel.

​@@lindaellison899 so basically an infinitely spinning wheel?

@@zs7930 supposedly Bessler used pulleys and levers to continually have more weight on one side.

@@lindaellison899 there's a law in physics called the conservation of energy. Basically, energy changes from one form to another, but isn't created from thin air. It makes such things impossible. If it was possible, then this will make generators powered by fossil fuels useless. You can look into prepertual moving machines for more info

@lindaellison899 wouldn't that just be impossible as a perpetual motion machine

Thankyou, its actually of Bessler's drawings #75. There may be something to it, but i was unsuccessful with this type set-ups. orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/viewer/image/1345798641226/56/

Yes, the theory is, Johann Bessler's self-turn wheel is found by using the 140 verses of ''Apologia'' to explain the 141 drawings of ''Maschinen Tractate'' (or darstellungen) orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/viewer/image/1345798641226/10/ see MT#11=verse for that one being verse #11, which is 1cor3;11 I shouldve explained it better, see vid ''bible verse theory'' it has some the references in the description. its kindly go like this. shorter inner lever= Yeshua (dies to save us) outer lever=man heart-shape=man's heart strings=spirit wheel=father weight at wrong time/place=sin heart bounces up/out=heavy heart repents hook=rest for soul/heart outer lever pulled in at bottom=baptismal bond & etc./etc. It's a no-go as of 6/18/24, however, so far realizing not have length/ratio/angles as his pictures/diagrams show, thanks.

Yes, if you match up Bessler's Apologia bible verses with the Maschinen Tractate figures you can see resemblances. Theory is, the verses are parables see to how the machine worked and help find proper sizes/shapes/angles/ratios for the levers/pulleys/weights. Look In the description under ''Bible Verse Theory'' vid there are some of the bible references to MT figures. Thanks kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m59lg9F9q7WtqaM.html

Thank you!

tried using it for a ''Miklovic effect'' but with this configuration it's not enough. thankyou=)

yea XD! =)

thankyou

thankyou, wrapped a rag around the screw to cushion the fall.

Tests are intended to help anyone find the ''secret'' swing/fall motions of weighted levers, of Johann Bessler's self-turning wheel of 1712 in Germany. Thanks.

@@lindaellison899 Was this Bessler a fraud?

@@_John_Sean_Walker There were some accusations by a Waggoner and some others against Bessler. Records show after Gera, Merseburg, and Weisenstein wheel demonstrations he ended up with over 30 witnessed signatures from high-ranking officials, also stating no fraud could be found. www.besslerwheel.com/examinations.html

@@lindaellison899 Yes, the weight moves the disk. When the weight is at the bottom, the disk stops. Quote: The inventor first put in motion his six ells (~11 feet) in diameter and one foot thick machine which was still resting on the same wooden support upon which it had previously been mounted. It was stopped and restarted, turned left and right as many times as was requested by the commissaries or the spectators. The machine was started by a very light push with just two fingers and accelerated as one of the weights, hidden inside, began to fall. Gradually, within about one revolution, the machine acquired a powerful and even rotation, which continued until it was forcefully brought to a stop again; the machine preserved the same rapid motion when lifting a box filled with six whole bricks weighing together about 70 pounds. The weight was lifted by means of a rope conducted through a window by means of a pulley. The box was lifted as many times as was requested....

@@lindaellison899 The pendulum clock was invented on 25 December 1656 by Dutch scientist and inventor Christiaan Huygens, and patented the following year. He described it in his manuscript Horologium published in 1658. Huygens contracted the construction of his clock designs to clockmaker Salomon Coster, who actually built the clock.

yes, that's weird, some of the other ones have missing frames too. Thanks for pointing that out, i thot it was just me! Is there a good way to fix that?

@@lindaellison899 it is a result from compressing the video into a smaller format. i am not sure if it is happening in your filming device or if it happens when youtube compresses the video. if the former is the case, see if there are settings in the filming device, maybe there is an option to record at a higher quality. if it is the latter, then all you can do is upload the highest quality video you have. then the viewers can choose to watch it at that quality. another option, one i think will make your projects look cool and scientific, is to paint the wheel with a contrasting pattern. this will also allow you to accurately measure the rotation speed.

@@sliceofbread2611 good ideas, thankyou for the advice!

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Yes, somewhat similar with centrifuge. thanks

правильно, это не работает так, как у Иоганна Бесслера 1712 года в Германии. Спасибо.

thanks, Vrilya! Yes, in theory the other ''prime mover'' needs to be mounted in such a way as to use its swing/fall to ''guide'' the springy weight into a perfect elliptical orbit.

Sorry, I was unable to translate it. thanks.

oh, just found how to translate it! Thank you, yes sometimes impossible things are possible. Here's an interesting linkage from Steve Mould using a grasshopper's leg! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rruFipmEvtLDkZ8.html

​@@lindaellison899интересное видео ,спасибо 😊 Теперь про колесо Бесслера , думаю стоит попробовать использовать принципы колеса Альдо Коста , нелинейное изменение параметров колеса - там грузы как бы выстреливают при нажатии рычага. Думаю что связь материального тела и гравитации может нарушатся ,становится нелинейной в некоторых случаях ,при резком изменении условий взаимодействия .Кроме того стоит изучить подробно как ходит человек и летит птица , человек есть перевернутый маятник и при ходьбе очень эффективно использует энергию , птица при полете так же совершает колебания маятника- тела , возвращая большую часть энергии

yea, like over 75% of the time on this one lol! that's one heck of a fence post driver in the video you got there, cool! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j79nadqitJutaJ8.html

maybe one day, they look like good 3d printers. thankyou.

pruebas y experimentos destinados a ayudara descubrir como funcionaba la rueda giratoria de Johann Bessler. despertandoaunnuevomundo.blogspot.com/2013/12/la-maquina-de-movimiento-perpetuo.html

Si, lo siento, olvide grabarlo en video con ambos lados conectados antes de desmontario. todavia no funciono. gracias. =)

thankyou

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Loll!! Yes, the wheel is hillbilly, but the other parts were redneck engineered! thanks =)

you are right, there's no guarantees! so far, only mere curios that don't do anything! =) Often wondered about conservation of energy. If that law applies to closed systems with no external energy supply, and if, he somehow arranged for one side to always be heavier, then gravity was his external energy supply. right? thanks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#First_law_of_thermodynamics

@@lindaellison899 sorry but that isnt how gravity works, the center of mass of the entire system is going to settle at the lowest point requiring energy input to move it back up, also friction and noise is wasted energy

@@lindaellison899 Gravity is a force, but not energy. For a mass to have potential energy using the force of gravity, It is necessary to apply energy to the mass, against the force of gravity. That potential energy comes not from gravity, but from the lifting energy that was applied against the gravity. Your muscles burn calories from the food you ate to raise a mass away from the force of gravity. Now that mass is storing a large portion of the energy from those calories from the food you ate. Calories are units of energy. A calorie is the amount of energy required to raise the temperature of one cubic centimeter (one milliliter) of water by one degree Celsius. That calorie could be drawn from sunshine, or from the combustion of wood, or from your own body heat, or the ambient air temperature, etc. Or it could come from solar energy that was captured by plants billions of years ago, and stored as organic material which then decomposed under pressure and condensed into oil, which can be burned to release heat from the sun which has been stored as potential energy for billions of years. With enough of those ancient calories, water could be turned to steam to drive a turbine or a piston, to lift a mass away from a force of gravity, and store some of that ancient sunshine as potential energy, until it is released as kinetic energy and imparts some of that energy in the form of an impact which will use that ancient energy to distort, reshape, break apart, crush, matter by hitting or being hit. Gravity is a force that can be used to store energy or release energy,, but it does not supply energy.

hi Josh, thankyou for your help. yes, friction and noise takes away, and center of mass settles at bottom. i could be wrong, but if Bessler had pendulums swinging to shift weight/mass closer to and further from axle, wouldn't that be like windmills, water wheels, or seesaw where there's more ''force/energy/gravity on one side? thanks

hi David, thanks for explaining force/energy, potential/stored/released/changed & etc. im not much of a scholar, but what you say makes good sense. I suppose i was wrong in calling gravity an energy rather than a force. I was kinda seeing gravity as rain falling on a wheel where one side of the wheel constantly collected more water than the opposite side, then it would obviously continue turning in that direction as long as it keeps raining right? And if the weight of the water is heavier on the falling side, would that be called gravity force, or gravity energy? Then, would a waterwheel be subjected to the conservation of energy law? If Yes, then it is in direct violation, right? if No, then it uses an outside source, right? So then, if, Bessler managed to keep more weight/mass/force on one side of wheel, what would it be called? thanks

never heard of one-way bearings, interesting, il check more into it. thankyou for sharing

yea sorry. MT is for ""Maschinen Tractate'' an old book of drawings/descriptions of failed designs Johann Bessler (Orffyre) tried before inventing a self-turn wheel in 1712. orka.bibliothek.uni-kassel.de/viewer/image/1345798641226/15/

@@lindaellison899 before inventing ?so ur saying he made working self turning wheel ?

@@griper00 He built and displayed several wheels but hid the working parts. One in Weisenstein Kassel Germany turned 26 rpm for 54 days (11/12/1717- 1/4/1718) Apparently, there was rumors of fraud, but dozens of high-ranking officials witnessed, signed, and stated that it turned on its own and no fraud could be detected. orffyreuscodes.com/who-was-orffyreus