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@steveharris7323 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for a wonderful channel! One point to make, though. The first athletic conference was The Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association in 1892. The SIAA pre dated The Western Conference (Big Ten) by three years and the NCAA (1906) by fourteen years. The SIAA is now defunct but it was the "ancestor" of The SoCon, SEC and ACC as many of the member schools of those conferences were once members of The SIAA.
@MrEmperorApples 3 күн бұрын
On Sept. 5, 1906, SLU's Bradbury Robinson uncorked the first legal forward pass, first misfiring but then connecting with Jack Schneider for a touchdown in a 22-0 win over Carroll
@markieproductions22 7 күн бұрын
I grew up in the same Township not too far from where Wally lived. I worked for his brother, Raymond, one summer in parks recreation maintenance. His brother was one of the nicest people I’ve ever met. I also went to Penn State, class of ‘82, but did know about Wally at the time or the origin of the cheer. I only learned about the story behind “We are Penn State” a couple of years before Wally passed away. It amazes me that he is not as well known as Jackie Robinson for breaking into the NFL as the first black player.
@matthewhogg7616 10 күн бұрын
Wasn’t Fielding Yost, in fact, a hillbilly from West Virginia?
@ArrowDog 13 күн бұрын
Around the 1 minute mark you mention another video but I would recommend linking it in the description, the “i” that would show up in the top right, or an end screen. Great videos, very much enjoying them!
@caseysmith544 14 күн бұрын
I think his is a real story as we know from your channel how pre 1920's football Collage and Pro were uncivilized and big brawls games were. Only who originally threw punch we may never know although somebody on Carlisle Indian team punching Black Bear by accident and Welch just blaming Penn State seems most likely.
@caseysmith544 14 күн бұрын
I remember in 2000's seeing on AMC a Silent Foot Ball movie in 1920's where a guy planed a running back/half back and he was only 3 fingers on one hand and missing pinky on other. Anyhow he was playing for Ohio state in movie where was about one of first stars in Collage in 1910's using older football gear as you saw 1--2 players wearing a very end style nose mask and odd pads made of cotton and stuffed inside with raw cotton as more modern shape leather pads were not yet invented like pre WWI. I wish I knew movie name.
@royveteto4134 14 күн бұрын
reminds me of the movie " fast times at ridgemont high " where spicoli wrecks a car belonging to a member of the football team. he makes it look like the car was wrecked by the football team that they will be playing that friday . as a result the football player has a monster game.
@arthurw8054 14 күн бұрын
Great story, thanks! It's of course all speculative, but I tend to agree with @MichaelPiz that something like this likely did happen once (and maybe once again) with the anecdote then being embellished over time.
@MichaelPiz 15 күн бұрын
That's hilarious! It probably has a basis in truth, beginning with something like a single, moderate smack on the head in only one game with more games and more severe attacks being added to the story as the years passed.
@nebwachamp 15 күн бұрын
Thanx Professor
@cjpreach 16 күн бұрын
ND can hold a grudge for being refused FOUR TIMES in the past, but $$$$$$$$ may influence their thinking one day . Who knows? Maybe they still have an opportunity to join THE B1G.
@ArrowDog 16 күн бұрын
Great video!
@CollegeFootballHistory 15 күн бұрын
Thanks you!
@ArrowDog 17 күн бұрын
Fantastic video! Very informative!
@ArrowDog 17 күн бұрын
I’m very much enjoying these videos, I’m binge watching all of them haha
@CollegeFootballHistory 15 күн бұрын
I am glad you like them, hopefully I'll be able to make plenty more!
@ArrowDog 17 күн бұрын
Great video!
@jonwalter6317 17 күн бұрын
So Michigan was cheating way back in 1909-1910. I wonder why they stopped? Oh, wait a second......
@jtom68 19 күн бұрын
This needs to be made into a movie about the Carlisle Indian Football team and the school
@segan24 20 күн бұрын
Glad I stumbled onto this channel. Very entertaining
@scottduke2809 21 күн бұрын
cool video. Nebraska fans are really great! Can't wait to start a conference rivalry with y'all... GO DUCKS!
@dacokc 23 күн бұрын
i can't wait till notre dame is 12-0 the only undefeated, and the best seating they get in the new playoff is 5th and miss the first round bye.
@matthewg7887 24 күн бұрын
Great video! Just a tip, it’s pronounced like Noder Dame not Notra Dame.
@davenewman2751 25 күн бұрын
I remember when JFK was running for president there was a lot of fear that he would take his orders from the Pope not the country. So yes, anti Catholic bias did exist, often among Protestant christians.
@AZBuckeye96 25 күн бұрын
I mean, ND’s football schedule is really only 25% independent when you really think about it. 5 ACC games required, plus every school gets to pick 3 non-conference games. That leaves 4 games that make them different. 25% different…
@matthewg7887 24 күн бұрын
You’re forgetting that Stanford now counts as an ACC opponent. That means ND only has to schedule 4 traditional ACC teams.
@patrickturner4581 25 күн бұрын
A great history of Notre Dame football. The Fighting Irish will never join the Big Ten, because of they did join they would be passively accepting the injustices of the past.
@patrickturner4581 25 күн бұрын
Notre Dame is a member of the AAU.
@CollegeFootballHistory 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, I got that wrong. Right at the beginning, too. Of all the things I researched....
@terencebaca1990 25 күн бұрын
2027: Phase 1 of the ESPN Super League w/ unequal revenue sharing: - Florida State - Clemson - Miami - North Carolina - Virginia - Stanford - Cal - Utah - Colorado - Arizona State - * Independent Notre Dame enters into scheduling agreement with the new Super League
@harwoodcarnal8523 25 күн бұрын
Simply magnificent work. Thank you!
@jeremymiller6933 26 күн бұрын
The ND/MIchigan feud goes back farther than Yost and Rockne, but that rivalry was the final nail in the coffin. It caused the Big10 to boycott ND. It was said that many times when ND traveled to Nebraska, and other places in the Midwest, that the KKK was at the train stations as well to "welcome" them. Another reason ND had to go more national. I don't think the TV money means that much to Notre Dame as it does with State U. It's more about having a guarantee that the home games get a national audience to the alum and subway alum. It's not mentioned often, but ND is a small school with an absolutely insane endowment around $20B. Unlike a lot of state schools that need the football team's revenue to fund much of the university, ND does not. I am sure if ND dropped the football team, some of that endowment might disappear in the future. Joining a conference might do the same. Would you trade potential billions for a few million in TV money? Aside from the sour history with the Big10, it has been said that most of the conference is made up of state funded research instituions that all vote the same way. Before the great expansions, Northwestern and Chicago told ND, that instead of being outvoted 11-2 on every vote, that with ND they would just get outvoted 11-3. As long as ND can survive as an independent and conduct their school in the way that they see fit, they will do so. With that amount of money in their coffers, they can afford to hold out. The TV money is irrelevant to them. (Not that they don't want it)
@frankfischer1281 26 күн бұрын
Back in 1960, and the election of John F. Kennedy to the Presidency of the US, there seemed to be great consternation amongst many members of the upper echelons of society at the 'rise of the first, ever, Catholic to the highest political office'. So it's not necessary to go back a hundred-plus years to experience anti-Catholic rhetoric.
@larrys9879 26 күн бұрын
If Notre Dame doesn’t join the B1G the time will come when they will deeply regret it. The days of tradition college football are gone forever. These new alliances will make Notre Dame irrelevant if they don’t get into the B1G or SEC.
@nathaniellathy6559 26 күн бұрын
Too bad Notre Dame isn't Catholic anymore
@nathaniellathy6559 26 күн бұрын
There's another word for Catholic: Christian ✝️.
@nathaniellathy6559 26 күн бұрын
Gerry Faust made Notre Dame less attractive to Big Ten. Post Lou Holtz the program hasn't been as prominent.
@myfootballjesus 26 күн бұрын
why was it called the WESTERN CONFERENCE?? it was clearly in the EASTERN TIME ZONE , the REAL teams in the west were on the west coast like WASH, CAL, USC, ORE, STANFORD or at least Oklahoma & Texas, Its a long Tradition of that area MIS naming things like BIG ten when they had 11, 12, and 14, and 18 teams... even Michigans song says Champions of the "west " and they ARE NOT IN THE WEST
@georgehenan853 25 күн бұрын
For the same reason Ohio was called northwestern territory and why northwestern university is in Chicago
@CollegeFootballHistory 25 күн бұрын
Because at that time, football hadn't spread to the west coast. Stanford had just started in 1891. So teams like Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin were "the west".
@GBU61 20 күн бұрын
It goes back to 1783. When the country was founded those states made up the The NW territory which was as far west as you could go. Therefore that area was called the Midwest then, and still is.
@jonwalter6317 18 күн бұрын
"BigTen" is not a mis-naming - when it expanded beyond ten teams, the name recognition had become so strong they stuck with the name, instead of changing their name like the Big12 has numerous times. They were the Big 9 until Mich State joined in 1949, and have been the B10 ever since. Silly to change your conference name every time you add or subtract a team. I do remember when the Big 8 became the Big 12, and it seemed a bit silly and confusing. Thankfully they stopped.
@jonwalter6317 18 күн бұрын
@@CollegeFootballHistory Travel was also a factor. Prior to practical air travel, major league baseball was not played farther west than Milwaukee and St Louis, nor farther south than Cincinnati and DC. That rectangle with St Louis as the SW corner represented the farthest a team could reasonably travel in a day by train. That's why there were so many double headers - because teams had a lot of off days to travel by train. I assume the same applied to college sports and football in general, and to an extant most recognized college football was played east of the Mississippi Valley.
@a.j.wilkes6352 26 күн бұрын
I enjoy your videos. "Heretofore referred to as 'Rockne' for the remainder of this video..." was good for a chuckle.
@carloscodina1717 26 күн бұрын
I've been a Notre Dame hater all my life despite going to Catholic school. Not the institution but the Football team because I went to USC. I've always respected them and now even more after knowing this history with the BIG 10 and the KKK. However, I'm still a big USC fan. Good luck Notre Dame but not againt us...HAHAHA. Thanks for the video.
@scottismail6311 26 күн бұрын
Great Video - Thanks for doing the research. I can only hope more than a few people will see this and finally begin to understand the history and how we got to where we are. Such a wonderful irony that big bad Michigan, doing everything it could to squash upstart Notre Dame actually helped create the powerhouse they are today by forcing them to travel across the country to play Army, USC, Texas, Etc.....just beautiful. Go Irish.
@ctafrance 24 күн бұрын
Notre Dame has a losing record against Michigan and, to a lesser extent, against Ohio State and Nebraska (the latter not being in the Big Ten when Notre Dame played them). Maybe Notre Dame doesn't want to join the Big Ten because it doesn't feel like having to lose to Michigan more often? hahaha
@terryfox9344 26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this exceptionally well done video. I have tried to explain to people that there are very real and powerful reasons for Notre Dame's reluctance to join the B1G. Alas, I have done a poor job as I don't think that I have been believed. Perhaps people will believe the newspaper accounts, especially those from Michigan.
@danielwade1978 26 күн бұрын
Even if every college football fan knew our history the dislike would remain. Why? I consider my own disdain for Michigan and whether I’d ever let it go. Nope. Yost was a deuche bag and I think Harbaugh was a cheater and a crybaby. It brings warmth to my heart knowing that last years validity will always be talked about. By every college football fan. 😏
@danielwade1978 26 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I appreciate you. Go Irish ☘️
@jasonjackson1100 26 күн бұрын
Notre Dame can be an independent... But with no USC no Big ten teams no SEC teams to play... How are they going to get in 85 million dollar TV contract... Notre Dame against Duke. Vanderbilt. Central Michigan ain't gonna cut it
@GBU61 20 күн бұрын
College football is headed toward a time when conferences will no longer be relevant. When the B10 and SEC decide to pull away we will see some of the B12 and ACC join them into a new organization of top flight football. At that point ND will join but maintain its own scheduling flexibility.
@jacobduncan2142 26 күн бұрын
I just found this video and your channel. What a well made essay! I'm glad I stumbled across your content. I hope you get the subscriber and viewer growth you absolutely deserve.
@stephenlang7870 26 күн бұрын
It's not surprising that a Nebraska site would say AAU membership doesn't matter, as Nebraska is the only school to be kicked out in 124 years. But let's get some things straight. Notre Dame is a member of the AAU as of last year. Also the money from football is millions, but research money is billions. Football is the front porch to get research money in the door. I would imagine if Nebraska doesn't get their poop in a group and at least try to get back into the AAU, the B1G might send Nebraska packing as it brings down research money and Nebraska will never return to national football relevance.
@tarheel7406 26 күн бұрын
a) IOWAST and CUSE were also effectively expelled from the AAU. They just elected to leave first. b) AAU is a brand and culture thing for the [B1G]. NEB's lack of AAU has no effect on the grants for the other members. c) Neither BAMA nor GEORGIA is an AAU member, and both have national football relevance. d) ND does less research than NEB.
@CollegeFootballHistory 26 күн бұрын
Well, first, I can't believe I did all the other research for this and missed that Notre Dame joined in 2023. Dumb on me. Second, this isn't a "Nebraska site" or channel. While I am a Nebraska guy, I plan on casting a very wide net. Third, there are two groups who control college sports right now - lawyers and TV executives. Neither of them care about AAU membership. While that might appease academics in the Big Ten, it's going to be put aside by bigger problems as enrollment continues to drop and higher ed everywhere faces budget issues. I am guessing... that universities will want their athletic departments to not put a strain on their budgets and be more self-supporting in the future. Hence.... not that big an issue going forward.
@tarheel7406 26 күн бұрын
@@CollegeFootballHistory "While that might appease academics in the Big Ten, it's going to be put aside by bigger problems as enrollment continues to drop and higher ed everywhere faces budget issues." Yes, the reality that most everyone is missing is that the B1G is facing an increasingly compelling demo concern since the populations in the core footprint are stagnant and aging. The core members will not be able to maintain all of their academic metrics. I doubt that expansion will draw top students at the level needed for some metrics, but there aren't that many options to try.
@georgehenan853 25 күн бұрын
The aau is completely meaningless now a days. Nebraska does more research than most schools in the aau anyway. The big 10 just admitted Oregon for example, which is in no way a better or more prestigious school than Nebraska. It clearly don’t matter anymore in an era where tv rights are the moneymakers.
@RyanBrown-hr7ct 26 күн бұрын
Great info!
@TheEndZone4 26 күн бұрын
Have you thought about doing a video on the history of Syracuse and Ben Schwartwalder? The rise and fall of the program due to racial and other tensions is very interesting.
@bryanvogt6702 27 күн бұрын
Great synopsis. ND will likely form a conference from whatever is left of the ACC and whoever else is left out of the next Conference Realignment. As quasi-members of the ACC, they strongly influenced invitations for Cal, Stanford, and SMU to join the ACC. Why? Because ND wants to continue having West Coast rivals and season-ending games in California. They also want to continue playing in Texas frequently. Much like UTexas ran old the Southwest Conference, ND will run this new conference. It will be interesting to see how much support they get from Comcast/NBC in this regard, since Comcast/NBC has just committed big $$$ to the B1G. Perhaps ESPN will step in?
@tarheel7406 27 күн бұрын
ND's goal is to keep ACC depletion lite so that it stays relevant so that the SEC/B1G can't separate for a separate playoff. That will likely only delay the inevitable. ND would have been better off joining the ACC to save as a peer Tier 1 rather that your prediction.
@bryanvogt6702 26 күн бұрын
@@tarheel7406 Their arrogance, their irrelevance
@tarheel7406 26 күн бұрын
@@bryanvogt6702 Why are ND's unique preferences the result of arrogance?
@bryanvogt6702 26 күн бұрын
@@tarheel7406 They wish to be perceived as controlling their own destiny
@tarheel7406 26 күн бұрын
@@bryanvogt6702 That's not really an answer. Maybe that sates the uninformed ND fan, but ND crossed its event horizon when it elected to not join the ACC for a P3 world in favor of being later forced to join the P2 B1G. ND's brand is all football and being indy. That brand may not survive full conference membership anywhere, so perhaps why not ride it out for as long as possible.
@mark8337 27 күн бұрын
So, basically, you’re saying they won’t join in 2025 or after because of pettiness, mostly with Michigan, and the KKK. It’s 2024. Good God man, grow up. Move on.
@lindencamelback2305 27 күн бұрын
Notre Dame may be forced to join the B1G by market forces, but only by kicking and screaming. Based on what they suffered from the B1G, who can blame them?
@CarlaJenkinsTV 26 күн бұрын
The Big 10 isn't paying YOU $50 million. That's the same amount Alabama gets from ESPN and they've won 7 national championships since 1988. The Big 10 is the richest conference because we don't take on water (Notre Dame).
@nickdarr7328 27 күн бұрын
They should have chosen the Carlisle Cavalry as their name. A cartoon version of Custer would have been their mascot