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Hearing that makes me feel old but then i remember i graduated high school in 2012 and i start to feel even older 😮

Agreed on e-waste, on value I'll argue, you can get a B450 for 70$ that supports 5000 series CPU's and 5600 on a B450 is great value, not to speak that DDR4 is as cheap as DDR3 since they don't make it anymore.

@@PatalJunior True, you can also build a decent, modern, and new PC with a 5600G APU for under $400. That is normally with a B450 or A520 (depending on availability and discounts), 16GB DDR4 3200, 256GB M.2, 500W PSU and a glass sided case. Plus it is readily upgradable with modern parts.

All depends a bit on the price you can find the parts at and what you want to do with them. Just for youtube and light gaming I would be pretty happy with my Core 2 build. It reaches the baseline for a machine that is still usable today. I could see many people being fine with something like a Q6600, Phenom 955, i7-920 and the like. They all have enough cores and fast enough cores to stem such tasks and their boards support enough memory to not run into issues even today. That is obviously not for modern AAA gaming, but if everything you do is youtube and maybe some lighter games up until maybe 2016-17, they will do. I can run Witcher 3 and Doom 2016 on that Core 2 well enough to be able to survive if that were all I had.

@@HappyBeezerStudios When you think about it, the fact that a Core 2 Quad from january 2007 is still able to perform very well in everyday tasks like web browsing and pretty damn well in games up until 2017/2018 is insane and a testament to the greatness of the Core architecture used for Conroe/Kentsfield CPUs.

@@PatalJunior double the cost. Can get a mobo xeon cpu and ram for less than a b450 motherboard With next gen ryzen out and ddr5 in the next year or 2 prices should drop a fair bit. These game really well at 1080p with a 130$ rx5700. Gives you 2 years to save up for next gen as it drops in price aswell

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Yea we haven't done a Pentium 4 video in a while and EE you're right.

just saw two of them for 40 usd. From a good store too

i have a pc with q6600 with win10 running just fine, rarely BSOD, but its ok

I've been on X58 since 2013, before the CPU in the video was even released. In 2016 I upgraded to a 6c/12t X5670 which I've been running overclocked to above 4GHz since then. It doesn't have AVX so some new games wont run but other than that it's still fine. I'm currently waiting for a GTX 1080 to replace my old slow GTX 960 2GB which I've had since 2016.

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if you dont need the multicore, the 1680v2 is the last fully unlocked Xeon part and can hit 4.5GHz all-core without too much trouble. You would need a normal, non-chinese frankenboard to be able to overclock it.

@@bojinglebells U can overclock 2697 without a problem too, Mine goes up to 114.700 bclk and that gives it boost clock of little over 4ghz/1810 cb R15 score

@@Rex-tt1vk what kind of motherboards can reliably hit bclks that high? I have been under the impression that not only would an overclocking board be necessary, but that bclk overclocking is more often than not unstable much beyond 104ish, and that even if such an overclock can be achieved, its still a not insignificant ~13% slower in single thread.

@@bojinglebells I use IV formula, but you can get that with every asus board on X79. And if your cpu can do 125 then you can use option to make it act as it would be 100

Great suggestion! But I don't use/have Adobe.

@@philscomputerlab that’s ok, but a lot of people do use Handbrake!

Are they soldered or use paste like the desktop ones? If they're soldered, that would make for a pretty easy overclock.

Your xeon 1680v2 running fine with my rtx3090ti at 4.5Gz speed. Is good idea to assembly with the high speed ddr3 2400Ghz.

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Good choice!

That upgrade will be huge. The 5800X3D is a monster. In some cases it can beat things like the 13600K and 7600X, simple because of the humongous cache. Obviously only if the game benefits from it, but if they do, wow, it's quite the difference.

1680V2 is very good. 8 cores and unlocked for 4+ GHz.

@@philscomputerlab That is pretty much the one I would go with on X79. Enough cores to not really be an issue in modern games, but also fast enough cores to perform well in those games.

Awesome, thanks for sharing. I love hearing how affordable hardware makes a difference 😄

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This. Also there was a bios modder on the Asus forums doing good work adding nvme support while omiting the CPU microcode updates for Asus boards.

I wouldn't flat out disable them, they're for safety after all. But it's worth testing the difference to see how much of a hit it really does in home user tasks.

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Yea if you have X99 no need to step down. There are awesome high end CPUs for your board too...

Would you recommend X79 platform for retro windows xp gaming

@@Jaroartx Possibly. Whatever motherboard you are looking at, check that you can find drivers. That said, you would need to use Windows XP Professional 64-bit which might not play nice with some games and devices like audio cards or video drivers. Regular XP 32-bit really won't take advantage of the hardware to the max. It's quad channel, so you're probably going to have 8GB at the very least, most likely 16GB. I'm not quite sure if Intel needs a special driver to recognize more than dual-core properly. I never used XP on my X79 system, I only ever used Server 2012, Vista Ultimate X64, Windows 7 Ultimate X64 and Debian. I know when I did use XP way back when I needed a special dual-core driver for XP so games would run properly on my FX-60. I have an Asus TUF X79 motherboard and I see it has chipset, RAID and controller drivers for many OSes so I'd say that mobo, works. Though, it was a phase where you had BIOS or you could flash it to UEFI with a tool. I'd assume you'd want the regular BIOS for XP but I don't know if you can downgrade once it's moved over to UEFI. X79 would be really powerful for XP for sure, but be prepared to do some tinkering. I've been tinkering for a decade and only recently figured out how to get Fast Boot working with my hardware. Also, there's consumer RAID and enterprise RAID on these systems. Never mix the drivers and stick with one. If you want RAID-0 and TRIM (Vista and above) you need enterprise. XP you'd need to manage TRIM on your own. If you want full slot bandwidth with SLI or Crossfire, you need to check the specs of the CPU. Some only handle 28 PCIe lanes and not the full 40. Honestly, Windows 10 is really fast and modern on this system and I play old games like BF2, Blood Rayne, Ghost Recon, R63:RS on there without any issues. Very stable system as long as you have good matched memory and mount your CPU properly. Bad mounting usually manifests itself by dropping memory channels. The only thing I wish it has was an NVMe slot, but that mobo was just before that started showing up. It will not boot a PCIe RAID drive. My X99 system will, but my X79 system will not or maybe it's just this particular flavour of X79 that can't do it; not too sure. Hope this helps!

@@PorscheRacer14 it sure helps thanks for all the details you are right this system is quite overkill for windows xp but is a fun project lets see later on in the build

I don't think there is anything that want's XP and makes use of that much hardware. You'd be fine getting a used 2500K or 3570K, clock it to the roof and throw a beefy 780 Ti in. All of them have driver support for XP and any game that really needs more than 4 GB RAM or 4 cores should run fine on 7/8/8.1/10 as well. And with how many people bought them back in the day, they'll be sold like crazy. I'm actually planning to move my 3570K to homeserver duties once I finally retire it.

2 years is an eternity in IT

@@bzuidgeest not anymore. Focus of development to console has trapped pc players, and hardware manufactures are focusing towards 8k, something which will take a decade to adopt.

@@willowwu8061 I have little clue what you are actually saying.... How exactly do you think pc gamers are "trapped" And how is 8K relevant to the performance per watt of the CPU, 8K or not is a GPU thing.

@@bzuidgeest game studios make games that can run on a ps5, (that is basically a 2070 system) because of this people who have extra horsepower, (on a fancy 3080ti system) can't do much more beyond increasing the resolution. this means they are stuck where they are with useless muscles and expensive promises. At least until the mainstream gamer catches up and games become more immersive with AI.

@@willowwu8061 you're greatly overestimating the PS5. It's a specialized macht, but there is already better PC hardware out there.

teens? do you use your PC outside in the winter?

E5-1680V2!!!!!!

His single core scores are about the same as those on my overclocked Core 2 based Xeon. And my i5 from the same gen is about 30% faster, simply due to the higher clocks (which also gets630 R15 multi and 1345 R20 multi, so about 40% the performance with 33% the cores and 16% the threads)

It's hit-or-miss with those motherboards. There are some really bad ones that have only half the USB ports working, for example. Some have really cheap and noisy fans cooling the VRMs that will eventually fail. You're stuck with whatever BIOS is on those motherboards, too.

@@galland101 There are modded BIOSes available for a lot of the more popular models (including this one, which unlocks memory timings amongst other things). Can be a bit of a challenge digging through Russian forums and such to find them however.

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It will be fine. If the temps get out of hand it will just throttle a d that only happens if you stress all cores for extended period, like video rendering. Gaming isn't going to do that.

plateaued? we've seen the biggest gen on gen gains EVER in the past years

ahh, hackintosh power

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@@renanwillian4006 Nope! Long live Xeons!

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That is awesome!

@@philscomputerlab Thank You. I collect them for my daughter's account too as she never remembers to get them.

it's "death stranding".

@@rk137066 greatly appreciated

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Might be even worth trying to simply add a pair of chunky fans onto the reference cooler. Without the shroud obviously. Back in the day I got my 8800 GT down by about 30°C with that.