I knew the gym teachers were trying to kill me back in my school days.
@barnalidevi24663 жыл бұрын
lol
@kelleychilton25243 жыл бұрын
No kidding! We used to do some of these in gym class back in the 1970's
@Hestaka3 жыл бұрын
@@kelleychilton2524 Girl do what you mean I did 11 of these last school year for school it's been over 50 years and they still don't know these are bad?
@ETERNlTUS3 жыл бұрын
@@Hestaka Most PE teachers just don't care and stick to textbook exercise... And kids are less likely to get hurt (and heal fast) from those exercises. Now we know, why PE teachers can't give a proper example for those exercises 😒
@michaels9993 жыл бұрын
@@kelleychilton2524 ah the good old days
@nycbearff3 жыл бұрын
Long ago my physical therapist drummed into me "You can bend, and you can twist, but NEVER bend and twist at the same time." So I changed how I moved when I was building things or doing heavy gardening. It was awkward at first to avoid bending and twisting at the same time, and to do some things in two steps instead of one, but that has saved me a lot of pain as I've aged - I can feel how keeping those two movements separate keeps my spine stable.
@woman22512 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Extremly important information!!
@isadora58262 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice! I'm 17 and I will never bend and twist at the same time again. But I'm a dancer, so let's see how that goes.
@danruinsfood40022 жыл бұрын
🤣he says, "if you want to Hutt your back, this is what you should do."
@donf42272 жыл бұрын
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but don't pick your friend's nose.
@Johny40Se7en Жыл бұрын
@@donf4227 😅🤣
@JohnsVideosAndClips3 жыл бұрын
I think a table of contents will be very helpful. All times and descriptions are approximate: 0:55: windmills / bend, twist, and touch toes with fingers 1:45: full sit-ups, supported sit-ups, sit-ups with weights on chests 2:55: V-sits, and V-sits with twists 3:30: tricep dips off the end of a bench 4:10: running on same side of an inclined road all the time 5:32: upright rows 6:35: standing chest rows with dumbbells 7:25: standing side bends with dumbbells 8:12: behind the neck press-ups and military press 9:24: wide based push ups 10:18: jumping exercises on concrete and landing position of knees 10:48: quad extension machines 11:51: twisting motion with weights for core
@amandabr95623 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@69yearsago823 жыл бұрын
You really need more likes
@thesparks003 жыл бұрын
We laud heroes
@sutuworld82613 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@goodluck10703 жыл бұрын
very useful, thanks
@OtherPony3 жыл бұрын
Notes taken from the video: 1)Be aware of when your joints are working excessively in order to compensate for the motion unnatural for a human, and change the direction or amplitude of exercise to preserve them; 2)Do not twist and bend your spine simultaneously, work on different muscle groups along the spine, but keep it fixed in one way or another to not stress it too much; 3)Negative effects of irrational exercising take time to build up, and you will realize them when you have already done much more bad than good to your skeletal structure; 4)You always can find another exercise for the desired group of muscles if you understand that the previous ones did you wrong; 5)Bob & Brad are the most famous physical therapists on the net (in their opinion, of course)
@noggadock61503 жыл бұрын
all that for 9 likes
@OtherPony3 жыл бұрын
@@noggadock6150 It was 0 back when I started so I consider this a good investment
@phoenixfire91765 ай бұрын
@@noggadock6150100 now :)
@fords_farm_56276 жыл бұрын
So pretty much all the exercises you do during school and in the military
@jodimcdonald43566 жыл бұрын
Literally my entire military career in one video.
@gdup20096 жыл бұрын
@@jodimcdonald4356 I know right New PRT
@ash_outcastsofsuburbia5 жыл бұрын
They force you to do all of these in gym class
@bremenfan295 жыл бұрын
Jodi McDonald I think this is why physical therapists should be teaching exercise rather than personal trainers.
@bremenfan295 жыл бұрын
Ash_OutcastsOfSuburbia when they shouldn’t be.
@2danandrews5 жыл бұрын
I knew I wasn't crazy when my back hurt at age 16 doing sit-ups
@lowestoflows23 жыл бұрын
Ikr I’m 14 with a lot of knee, ankle, WRIST, foot and upper back pain 😞. My wrists hurt so bad and are sore that I don’t want to pick up anything. Doing similar workouts and I have ran 5 miles two days in a row before. I have to be careful what I do and make sure I rest.
@therandiked3 жыл бұрын
you should never come up that much .....it does not work your core. only slight upward motion then the tension goes away from your core
@doubleblack36362 жыл бұрын
@@lowestoflows2 me too! I feel like I am too weak
@subs47942 жыл бұрын
No pain, no gain.
@hamsacc2 жыл бұрын
@@subs4794 that saying refers to the muscles, not the BONES
@n.artoff22103 жыл бұрын
Finally!! My whole life I’ve had trouble with sit-ups; I can literally hear my lower back POP each time, but nobody ever believed me! They acted like I was being lazy & I was like no, it really hurts my back 😭
@therealsyndicate2 жыл бұрын
SAME!! even at a young age, and eventually i /did/ injure a disc trying to ignore those pops as "normal"like i was told
@ejokurirulezz Жыл бұрын
idk situps was never a thing in my place, was always crunches.
@rantnhnaketon Жыл бұрын
You have to disengage the lower back while doing them. But yeah there are better exercises
@itsme-rt7nz4 жыл бұрын
I always walked my dog along the same slope at the park. I ended up tilting my pelvis, and with bursitis in one hip. The physical therapist fixed me up like magic. But five years later, I developed arthritis in the injured hip and had to get a total hip replacement. Bob, you know what you are talking about. BTW, the surgery went perfectly, and I am doing great.
@dianeyoung80683 жыл бұрын
It probably throw your dogs body off too.
@theonetheonly97303 жыл бұрын
@@dianeyoung8068 facts
@katherineklevenow18083 жыл бұрын
How's your dog 🐶?
@backbone93 Жыл бұрын
You must have sit a lot im general Bad blood and nerve supply You dont need a hip replacememt from just that
@jamisojo Жыл бұрын
@@backbone93 Please use correct English when giving out medical advice.
@kristinludlowUX5 жыл бұрын
I've done ALL of these for years and now I'm paying for it. Listen to these guys!
@111Phoenix7773 жыл бұрын
I was going to say, I think many of us have! Over the years most of us were either taught these exercises either in school, sports, or the military.
@alexanderaflalo41283 жыл бұрын
Yep...I now know why I have chronic tendonitis and joint pain in my knees and elbows in my early thirties...
@null2639shw3 жыл бұрын
@@111Phoenix777 i have started working out at home about 20 days back and I'm doing triceps bench dips... I myself knew that something is wrong maybe I'm hurting my shoulder then i saw this video and it got confirmed... Can you suggest me few alternatives..!?
@111Phoenix7773 жыл бұрын
@@null2639shw I don't know if I know anymore about it than you. I'm still learning myself. I never liked doing tricep bench dips ever. They always hurt my shoulders, even when I was a young man. Last year with all the gyms being closed I broke down and bought a pull-up/dip station for home and was glad I did. And I've been using exercise bands with that to decrease the weight, since I can no longer lift my own body weight. With the few exercises I do these days, I avoid the extremely wide grips which I always started with and emphasized when I was a young man. Also I'm taking MSM and Glucosamin Chondroitin every day to save what's left of my joints. I would recommend either using a dip station, or two tables or chairs on either side of you, about shoulder width apart, so you can start with your hands directly under your shoulders or slightly in front of you, so you're avoiding the extreme angle rotation on your shoulders
@111Phoenix7773 жыл бұрын
One of the books that Zahabit recommended was Dr. Kelly Starrett's and Glen Cordoza's "Becoming a Supple Leopard" (2015). I bought the book a few months ago, but have yet had a chance to read it cover to cover. On pages 216 to 217 though, it talks about dips, and the importance of keeping your forearms vertical throughout the exercise. I'm not sure that I've been doing that, so I'm learning here too. Also, it recommends that you use a dip station that's high enough off the ground that you don't have to bend your legs during the exercise. I haven't been doing that either, but not sure what my alternatives are. All the gyms are still closed, and it's impractical for me where I live to buy a set of parallel bars. I think we're all just doing the best we can with what we have. I'm not in pain when I do my limited exercise routine, yet, so I'm lucky. But I guess I could use some work on my form.
@marlelarmarlelar95476 жыл бұрын
Please do a "15 Alternatives" video.
@DOMONTHEINTERNET5 жыл бұрын
Marlelar Marlelar yes!!!
@Yasminh1595 жыл бұрын
Totally! I thought they would
@ktkee71615 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It's so annoying saying we have healthy alternatives but not giving them! Maybe it's a way of making us watch their 2000 videos trying to find them...
@lizbee7265 жыл бұрын
I agree would've been better to do less that were wrong & do alternatives. 🤣🤣👌
@gracefool5 жыл бұрын
Better than alternatives, learn how to improve your body so you *can* do these things safely. There are thousands of good KZfaq videos showing good progressions. The body is made to move in all kinds of ways and if you pay attention not to force things, your body will adapt.
@hackjuniordf Жыл бұрын
I was very heavy and started swimming, walking, running and exercising in the pool (to avoid back problems and joint wear)... I've lost more than 30 kilos from June until now in December!
@zoozu2067 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, keep it up!
@yuzmanito Жыл бұрын
watch?v=v_OuBz_L4sI
@pickleballer1729 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, props to you! I hate to say it, but the hard part is just starting (if you had that weight on for a long time.) I put on about 15 pounds after a Soccer injury 30 years ago, and it stayed on for quite a while. I have lost it a couple of times, but it always came back, until this last time. This time I lost it as you did- just by staying active for a long period of time (not really even thinking about the weight issue.). (Pickleball.) Now my weight is 2 pounds more than when I played College Soccer, and has been for almost a year. I think if you enjoy the exercise you're getting, you'll probably successfully keep it off, but it you're eating and /or exercising in an unpleasant way just to lose weight, probably not going to work long term.
@reniefuwa Жыл бұрын
Good job!
@Volkbrecht Жыл бұрын
Just keep on adjusting the routines to your changing weight. Really fat people are basically a walking gym. If they could strip away the fat there'd be quite a set of muscles underneath, at least below the waist. But while you lose weight, you are basically working out with decreasing weight....
@johnhathaway71424 жыл бұрын
I am retired and I need exercises. After viewing many fitness/physiotherapists on KZfaq, I have decided to watch your videos only. Your explanations and honesty give you credability, and you are fun to watch.
@EFitz-xt4ym5 жыл бұрын
Can you guys create a workout video made up of safe exercises that work the entire body, pleaseeeeeee😁
@padaleczwyczajny91853 жыл бұрын
I agree with that man!
@dusandjokovic21383 жыл бұрын
same
@3zek03 жыл бұрын
@@padaleczwyczajny9185 they have done on one it’s old but gold
Hi, I'm a Physical Medicine & Rehab/Pain doc in LA and I love your videos (and your theme song!) . I wish there was more content on the internet like what you're creating: good, basic, universally entertaining physical and medical knowledge. I'd love to collaborate on a "15 Alternatives" video and have you guys fact check some of the exercises I prescribe to pretty much all of my patients. Also I would love any advice you have about starting a channel about function from a medical perspective. I hope you reach out to me, and keep up the great work!
@AJames-xs2xr Жыл бұрын
I hope they saw this comment! Can I ask, did you end up making a video about the alternative exercises?
@Stevil935 Жыл бұрын
@@AJames-xs2xr if you need a theme song let me know
@christopher21104 жыл бұрын
It's 2020, let's get that 15 alternatives and if it's already made, put it in the description of this video. You guys rock! Keep up the good work!
@c.santos16853 жыл бұрын
Yes pleeeease
@c.santos16853 жыл бұрын
I found it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m56UrLOXvdGYYoE.html
@billbauer97952 жыл бұрын
The alternatives video is at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m56UrLOXvdGYYoE.html or search for Alternatives For 15 Common Exercises You Should NEVER DO! (By Popular Demand)
@Kim-dz8dv5 жыл бұрын
Why do i work out so hard in the gym for years just to break my back after a sneeze in my 50s?
@luhole4 жыл бұрын
Km Trn you’re 50?!?! You look like you’re in your 20s!
@julierood12284 жыл бұрын
Oh nooo! I hope your doctor ordered a bone densitometry for you/ check for osteoporosis!
@Kim-dz8dv4 жыл бұрын
@Reaper5.56 Xx lol 9 months later and someone still replies
@etherealdeal17924 жыл бұрын
Reaper5.56 Xx good observation
@MA-un1mj4 жыл бұрын
😁
@TheNeilChatelain5 жыл бұрын
My whole life is a lie
@maryhallblack87185 жыл бұрын
right?! same here
@kimberlyanita10064 жыл бұрын
Basically. YEAH mine too
@AccidentalPreppper4 жыл бұрын
take the blue pill. and wake up.
@marciab12794 жыл бұрын
😆😅
@letmetellyousomething1234 жыл бұрын
Just go for long walks then ?
@shobanar74233 жыл бұрын
I stopped the forward bend and windmills and the lower back pain just stopped ! Thank you very much ! Please do keep sharing information like this. The "don't's" are actually so very important.
@MrGoodeats4 жыл бұрын
if these guys lived in ancient rome i suspect they’d have such an impact on history we’d all be learning about them to this day.
@TotalTennisGeek5 жыл бұрын
You two are VERY consistent! I have seen some of these warnings in your other videos, and the reasoning and warnings have been consistently the same. That makes me, as a researcher and analyst, very happy.
@BobandBrad5 жыл бұрын
Consistency is key! Glad that we could make you happy :)
@bluegrassgal78562 жыл бұрын
Don't forget heavy schoolbooks..on the hip or backpack back in the 60s. my back is a crash.
@Magne14 жыл бұрын
You should make a "Required to watch before getting a gym membership" video!
@michelewheldon71833 жыл бұрын
I think every trainer at a gym should watch their videos, especially this one.
@claires72682 жыл бұрын
that video would be soooo long haha
@donaldmickunas85522 жыл бұрын
I avoid gym memberships. I'm 67 years old. I cannot afford physically nor financially the "no pain, no gain" philosophy. That lands people in the Hospital and a lot of pain. I'll pass.
@billbauer97952 жыл бұрын
As we wait for that video, you might want to check out "Weight training without injury: Over 350 step-by-step pictures including what not to do" book
@briannacox48783 жыл бұрын
im 23 and so glad i stumbled upon this at my age. luckily a lot of the exercises to never do are ones i hate anyway because they hurt--bob and brad are on point! there are too many people my parents' age with bad backs because they did stuff like this :(
@edzimmerman55912 жыл бұрын
It is so surprising that most physical therapist agree with all your recommendations. Yet if you go to any gym one sees these exercises being done often with a personal trainer! Too bad your videos can’t be played on a constant loop on TVs at all gyms. You guys are great. Simple but comprehensive instructions!
@bufficliff8978 Жыл бұрын
Most personal trainers are just enthusiastic about training. Edit: they don't have any formal education on exercise safety; they just LOVE the field.
@wilfreddv Жыл бұрын
That's because physical therapy and weight training are wildly different. Done with proper form, most of the exercises mentioned are safe...
@grwm_station Жыл бұрын
@@wilfreddv are you sure I have read plenty of comments and all of them says they got problems ... Later everyone blames the form ... Nobody actually is considerate about the problem someone is going through
@Doriesep66225 жыл бұрын
All of us to survive the 1960s PE classes now have bad backs. Thank a lot, Coach Lyles.
@dancahill91224 жыл бұрын
Not wholly true sir. I survived 60's PE, have no military time and ABSOLUTELY have no back pain or problems whatsoever. I also did not do sports in school. Guess I'm just lucky,.... though I personally, I call it "being blessed" ! Hope you can find a remedy of some sort for your back. Thank you for your service !
@gazzabazzazza5 жыл бұрын
Don'ts or be cautious: - Sit-ups - Russian twists - Tricep dips - Running - don't run the same side of the road / same track direction - upright rows - bench press but standing upright! - Loaded side bends - (military) press behind the neck - wide based (elbows out) press-up - jumping exercises. Not on concrete. Be careful knees don't collapse inwards. - quad extension weight machine - v-sits / weighted Russian twists
@askingwhy1235 жыл бұрын
Dips are great-just not bench dips-which force your shoulder to the end of the range of motion.
@ramonbs60755 жыл бұрын
I would say the the critique is on the position of the hand/arm on the Tricep Dip.
@fujzokretencina75365 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MichaelHess85 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@chibby19045 жыл бұрын
Gary Thompson there’s only one way to run on a track
@ludwigvonn9889 Жыл бұрын
Probably the most honest video on exercise on YT. I always felt something was off with these exercises, but i continued doing them as literally everyone is doing them too... Never again.
@sarakin94563 жыл бұрын
I would love if they made reaction videos to other KZfaqrs’ or fitness studio’s videos! Their thoughts on the exercises, advice, alternatives, etc!
@dolfdolf6 жыл бұрын
thanks ! but I wish you guys showed an alternative
@luvit5796 жыл бұрын
Jeff Cavalier gives alternative to some of these exercises
@JAGUARBURST6 жыл бұрын
Randolf you may want to check their other videos, they have given alternatives in other videos
@pamelaanis7156 жыл бұрын
Donald Trump m
@thecraftycyborg90246 жыл бұрын
My suggested videos right now shows one of their videos with the title "7 exercises you should do every day". That sounds like a good place to start!
@zacharyzetts73956 жыл бұрын
6:00 ho half way?
@yellowbmblbee6 жыл бұрын
These 'don'ts' are right in line with Athlean-X's channel. He preaches the same exercises are bad to do. I stopped doing all of these exercises, and my shoulders, back, and knees haven't been stronger.
@tylert17626 жыл бұрын
Bumble Bee what do you do to strengthen shoulders? I guess I'm gonna stop doing military presses.
@rohanjoseph60856 жыл бұрын
Tyler T I've seen Athlean-X recommended dumbbell shoulder presses with your arms around 30-40 degrees in front of the body
@elizabethbennet47916 жыл бұрын
those are traps...try "bat wings" exercises or anything to strengthen the trap muscles. they are essential for me I have scoliosis and really help
@eukaable6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip, checked it out and really like the channel!!
@urmenior6 жыл бұрын
The only thing they would probably disagree on is Russian twists. I've seen Jeff do those in a V-sit position, and his rotation core movements often include spine flexion. A few years ago Jeff did say spine flexion combined with rotation caused hernia, but he still does that in his videos. I don't know about Jeff's experience with patients/athletes with herniated lower back (and that seems to be one area he hasn't had an injury), but that seems to be the weak spot of his channel. Even on the video about sciatica he went on to talk about fake sciatica and offered solution for that, though his recommendation of daily spine decompression is in line with the hernia treatment shown in this channel. Still, most of Jeff's 1 million ab exercises are really problematic for people with herniated disks, but he would just tell you to strengthen your hips instead of coming up with lower back friendly movements as he does with knees, shoulders, wrists and elbows. Even for flat feet he has incredible exercise tweaks, but not much on lower back problems.
@rupenther96723 жыл бұрын
" make sure you liked our post, because Brad and I as children we are not liked, it's sad and we are trying to turn things around" 😂😂😂
@Anne_Onymous3 жыл бұрын
SUMMARY: Windmills Full sit-ups Dips Horizontal bar lifts Loaded side bends Wide push-ups Behind-the-neck press ups Weighted quad extensions Weighted V sets Jumping on concrete Landing with knees bent in Walking/jogging/running on the same side of the street
@nikkininedoor14804 жыл бұрын
Back in 2016, my personal trainer had me doing most of these exercises, until I was in so much agony after a year, I had to quit. Thank you for explaining why that likely happened to me. I have been following a few of your videos for a while now, and they're very enlightening and helpful in my current workout.
@OlympianVenus4 жыл бұрын
I hired a trainer at the gym and within a few months it messed up my back and knees and now I’m 37 and I go for chiropractor care for adjustments. Eventually all this bad exercises we do at the gym will take a toll on your body. I’m glad I came across this channel.
@MrTeff9992 жыл бұрын
After 10 years of constant chiropractic treatments, I came to the conclusion that it’s quackery. I finally improved when I quit getting adjustments, changed jobs, and began exercising again.
@9UaYXxB2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTeff999 Yup. It's not medically sound.
@omusaatsawatuukha25132 жыл бұрын
@@9UaYXxB Wisdom is known of her children. What would you say of those people who got significant improvement after visiting a chiropractor? Modern is as scientific as it is political.
@Chunkable999 Жыл бұрын
@@omusaatsawatuukha2513 What would you say to those people that have experienced paralysis or other medical emergencies after visiting a chiropractor? Remember it is not technically medical treatment or necessary, and therefore not worth the risk of death or grave injury. Popping your knuckles feels good until you develop severe arthritis.
@omusaatsawatuukha2513 Жыл бұрын
@@Chunkable999 People who have suffered back pains for years will disagree with you on whether it is "technically medical treatment or necessary." There are people who have experienced medical emergencies after taking drugs recommended to them by doctors.
@jilldigwood43282 жыл бұрын
Well looks like I have been doing things wrong, thanks for putting me right. I have chronic back pain so will look for better exercises to do to help me with pain and improve what I have. Thanks so much 👋
@lightnbreezy2 жыл бұрын
Great learning from you guys. Just turned 80 and I got to keep the blood flowing. You're doing a good job of teaching and motivating me.
@Erosenkohl6 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a follow up video with the exercises that you DO recommend instead?
@shravanpoloju83116 жыл бұрын
Erosenkohl athlean x is your answer
@shravanpoloju83115 жыл бұрын
@Jon Beck KZfaq channel
@danielross13405 жыл бұрын
@Jon Beck he's targeting athletes and people who want to build functional strength. Also check out some of his older videos, there aren't as many gimmicks but still full of great information. You dont need to look any farther than his professional athlete clients or absolutely shredded physique to see he knows what he is talking about. In addition, just because he promotes strength training doesnt mean you'll turn into a mass monster if you follow his workout regime.
@antivegan58815 жыл бұрын
Jon Beck literally anything you need you can find on his channel. hes the best. he even has videos about an uncommon bone deformity which i have and helped me. he trains athletes for a living
@ktkee71615 жыл бұрын
@@shravanpoloju8311 He recommends the tricep dips these guys say are bad...
@Hoobz014 жыл бұрын
Mind blown 50% of my Gym routine obliterated in one vid 😳 😂😂😂 Thank you, because I hated the last exercise the most. Cowbell sit twist things. Not doing them any more
@barrywainwright33914 жыл бұрын
Then why do you even bother going to a gym?
@ferngully34814 жыл бұрын
Barry Wainwright exactly my thoughts. None of that really has much to do with the gym. Most moderate workout moms have more equipment then they mentioned in this video. Dude full of it or he’s been throwing money out the window.
@georgaseebalack60034 жыл бұрын
@@ferngully3481 why judge the person. they may have a gym buddy or are more consistent when going to a physical gym. why judge what they do at a gym. they also said only 50%. the other 50% is likely them using equipment that the gym provides.
@thetiredworm21004 жыл бұрын
Georga Seebalack Ikr they are being dumb
@kesalexander48002 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@dogwalker19632 жыл бұрын
I've been a member of the YMCA for over 20 years and have done every single one of those exercises. Now I know where my spinal stenosis came from. Thanks for sharing!!!!
@IncogNito-gg6uh2 жыл бұрын
Forty some years ago a trainer at my gym gave me the same advice on most of these excercises. On the quad extensions he recommended light weight of fifteen pounds or less and, perhaps more importantly, to lower the leg only about 15° from horizontal. That mainly turns this excercise into one that benefits the knees, and may be why I have healthy knees at age 70.
@GoldenFrizbee Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly this and to do Time under Tension when coming down from extension light weight. Count to 4.
@luisfelix7989 Жыл бұрын
Mmmhhh,,, your healthy knees could be because of your genetics, you didn't ride wild horses, work on a ranch, or raced motocross??
@IncogNito-gg6uh Жыл бұрын
@@luisfelix7989 Nope, I didn't do any of those, so what you say may be a factor. But, I was a postal worker for thirty-five years. I watched a lot of co-workers limp out of here into retirement. So, maybe a little genetics, a little excercise, and a little luck.
@shaydavis13656 жыл бұрын
I've had lower back problems since I was a teenager. Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention. You two are a wealth of knowledge.
@kimschilling41686 жыл бұрын
would love to see a program where you say 'don't do this' but do do this. SAme time, so we don't have to look back and forth for alternatives.
@6drk6mrc63 жыл бұрын
This.
@brianfuller5150 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, guys! I’m 59 and have always been active. I had rotator cuff surgery a couple of months ago, and am going thru PT now. Your videos are entertaining and helpful. God bless!
@sandygorski85062 жыл бұрын
I have been working out with a trainer and my neck and back are hurting and we did the sit-ups and the behind the head with weights and until I saw your video I didn’t realize that is what is causing my pain. Thank you for this
@sashalhagan18705 жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING! Thank you guys for being such a forefront for the Physical Therapist profession and taking this to the most used social media platform. We KNOW what we are talking about! Trust me, we didn’t go through 19 years of schooling to provide inaccurate information. These guys are extremely brilliant, and they are doing this to benefit everyone else. They care! So please keep creating videos, because you’re inspirational, motivating, and amazing advocates. Thank you!
@joeberger3441 Жыл бұрын
A lot of these claims have actually been dunked by further research..movements aren't bad. It's improper loading that generally gets people hurt
@e.maevillalba68205 жыл бұрын
I was not doing any of them anyway. I'm gonna live forever
@DavesGuitarPlanet2 жыл бұрын
I think the important thing is to listen carefully to your body when doing an exercise. Limit the range or lower the weight, or abstain altogether if a certain exercise stresses a joint or muscle. Many, many people have been able to do sit-ups, standing press, etc. without issue. But a lot of this info is certainly good to keep in mind.
@callanc3925 Жыл бұрын
Most importantly, focus on your form more than the numbers of weight or reps that you do. At least at first. A good exercise with bad form is no better than a bad exercise with good form
@rigobertoortegam.English2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! Greetings from Panama! I am an English Professor for an PT and Nursing university. The best from you is to help my students with your short videos for them to look for the background information of each of the topics you present everytime. Thank you! Because you are part of my class. The sky is the limit. Mr. Ortega
@vitalvital9365 Жыл бұрын
great!
@escapefromny20126 жыл бұрын
4:50 - A darn good reason all towns need wide walking/biking lanes, created for that purpose, with this in mind.
@user-kt4qi9yy5i5 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@thirstisr34l4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, never take away walking from citizens.
@serrielu80254 жыл бұрын
joggers need to ante up for those wide shoulders then. Roads are for vehicles not your fitness routine. Bikers are not pedestrians they are considered a vehicle, as such they have to follow the rules of the road just as a car. If a town wants to use taxpayer/ public funds on bike paths fine , but otherwise ..... With the traffic bicyclists! Against the traffic pedestrians.
@somisolutions60442 жыл бұрын
Many times in classes I would sit out certain exercises or modify them & be viewed as uncooperative. Thank you for sharing this info - I hope more teachers see it and I hope everyone always does what's right for them vs. what's expected of them in a class! There are good and bad teachers out there. Find the good ones!
@ataraxia_andrea3 жыл бұрын
I did those v-sits and Russian twists in my 20-ies and ended up with pinched sciatica nerve and now in my 40 's if I am not extremely careful It comes back. So true!
@MA-no8tz3 жыл бұрын
This video is a must for everyone working out. I only wish that this was out 25 years ago! Great job guys.
@kor75746 жыл бұрын
I live a fairly active life and out of all my friends, I'm the only one who still goes to the gym 3 times a week. Being going since I was 18. I am 40 now. I don't use heavy weights. My lower back starts deteriorating over the years and it always hurt more the next day after gym. Now I know why! Spent a lot of money on sports therapy massage and even laser treatment with only temporary relieve. Watched a few of your videos to diagnose my issue (S.I). Tried your 4 stretches and instantly relieve! I can seat down for more than half hour without pain. However, I'm still very stiff in the morning. Hopefully I'll find an answer in one of these videos. Big thanks guys. Love your videos.
@SLefd4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq says 1 year ago... Kor, how have you been doing? Having neck and lower back pain myself (when sitting down) and wondering if you've had any big improvement...:)
@fleadoggreen90624 жыл бұрын
Chop Carry how is ur back now? Updates?
@deborahpruyne62746 жыл бұрын
OMG!! I wish I had seen this a month ago! I was working out with a personal trainer and he had me doing most of those exercises. Dead bugs, Russian twists, and twisting to lift a medicine ball from one side and dropping it on the other, then doing it on the other side (kind of like the windmills only with the medicine ball). Now I am recovering from severe back pain. My L5 shifted left and my S1 shifted right. I have been to my chiropractor 5 times in the last 2 weeks to get adjusted and it is finally getting better. Ugh! I thought I was doing something to improve my health, not make it worse!!!
@some_gadgie6 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks they're a personal trainer these days as you need little to no qualifications to class yourself as 1.. Be very careful on who you ask for advice and always do your research when someone gives you new information, don't just take their word for it!!
@latinainwpb6 жыл бұрын
If I were you I'd go back and tell him so he doesn't hurt other people!
@shanasteele68946 жыл бұрын
My trainer had me doing majority of these as well. Most of these exercises never felt comfortable when doing them anyway, plus I already have back issues and I’d leave feeling horrible after a workout. There was probably a reason why I felt uncomfortable doing these because they’re not meant to be doing lol
@bremenfan295 жыл бұрын
You should go see a physical therapist so they can tell you what exercises you should do to keep your back healthy and to prevent from getting hurt.
@wilhelmu5 жыл бұрын
me too! couldn't exercise anything for over two weeks after that
@francesbrown8503 жыл бұрын
Even before I learned this from you I knew somehow that those exercises were uncomfortable and felt wrong. I didn’t stay at a gym for long and now I’m glad about it.
@MrGoodeats4 жыл бұрын
this may be the beast youtube video i have EVER seen. thank you for your time and your life’s work dedicated to improving people’s fitness and mobility.
@ignaciosevil21574 жыл бұрын
I suffer so much from lower back pain, you guys have really helped more than the couple dozens of doctors, physical therapists, etc ive been seeing. Thanks for the support. How can i get an appointment.
@Tipperary7575 жыл бұрын
No wonder my back always hurts!! Years of doing the wrong thing. Thank you.
@laurab91374 жыл бұрын
I feel like most personal trainers will tell you to do these workouts.
@kelseyh8584 жыл бұрын
“Brad, which way does gravity go?” 🤔
@hcazpena6 жыл бұрын
Most of these exercises were in the army's pft program! No wonder why I have a bulging disc!
@bremenfan295 жыл бұрын
Zechariah Pena You should go see a physical therapist. Take advantage of your insurance!!!
@joeblank17555 жыл бұрын
@@bremenfan29 take advantage of the disability too
@justpaul8992 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense...I been doing most of those exercises my whole life, and I always wondered why my shoulders hurt. I wished I'd known this earlier!!!
@danad4012 жыл бұрын
This is eye opening!! No wonder I’ve had so many injuries as I’ve gotten older! I did all of these for years!
@Flovus Жыл бұрын
Military Press in front is a totally safe exercise for people with a healthy shoulder, if done correctly. There is a study (Powers et al., Patellofemoral joint stress during weight-bearing and non-weight-bearing quadriceps exercises) that claims leg extensions do not necessarily put more stress on the knee than squats (depending on the angle).
@Darkdude38 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to this study?
@Flovus Жыл бұрын
@@Darkdude38 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24673446/ (The study only tested 10 healthy people, which is not much.)
@sebastiandaoust7836 Жыл бұрын
@@Darkdude38just trust him bro
@Darkdude38 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiandaoust7836 lol, yeahh i could, but i would like to see his source, which he indeed sent to me
@Darkdude38 Жыл бұрын
@@Flovus thank you
@MariaDiaz-gy5rj4 жыл бұрын
I am a male massage therapist and went to school for this profession for 5 years and because of this I developed a lot of common seance around exercising and stretching. I watch your videos just to verify that what i am doing is correct. i have not had back pain for the last 20 years because I stretch psoas , periformis and hamstring muscles
@seguaye Жыл бұрын
a male massage therapist? like a massage therapist for men or a massage therapist who is a man?
@thecraftycyborg90246 жыл бұрын
I think that's the first time I've ever actually clicked "subscribe" when someone told me to, lol. This is my 10 th video of yours in a row tonight. I hope you know you're helping me avoid chores. Sadly, my cats will still need their litter boxes scooped when I'm done watching this.
@sandeepraj74434 жыл бұрын
Follow yoga
@no_one2197 Жыл бұрын
I do ALL of them and my back is always hurting. Now I think I know why
@alventuradelacruz522 Жыл бұрын
I do some but my back pains are gone, maybe I do it a more moderate way?
@AmberRachelleTheSweetPotatoes4 жыл бұрын
wtf i just stumbled onto this channel and after hearing your intro song I was HOOKED you two are def my favorite physical therapists on the internet xD
@davidbjelic19755 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I could have used it earlier in life when I was being taught to do everything that you just said NOT to do. One suggestion, if I may, a couple years ago I went to the gym to try to build up my back muscles. I had plenty of stenosis so I figured build the muscle spare the pain. My mistake was doing the back extension machine, That was the worst mistake I made. Had to have surgery. So now I follow your videos for BETTER ways to exercise.
@Pantheragatos6 жыл бұрын
@2:00, that's probably why after 20 + years of the military, that I have bulging discs, neuropathy , and arthritis in my lower back. I never do military style sit-ups any more ;-(
@some_gadgie6 жыл бұрын
I feel you buddy I used to train abs 2-3 times a day for 7 years when I used to box and now my back is FUCKED!!
@Reticulosis6 жыл бұрын
Lol not according to the VA, apparently damaged shoulders, knees and ankles are not service related.
@jonik15566 жыл бұрын
Edgar Valdez So sorry, Edgar. That's terrible. What did you do for the military? God Bless you for your service. 🇺🇸
@AJ-ri5ee6 жыл бұрын
I feel like an alternate title for this video could be “PT Leader’s favorite exercises”
@r.b.46115 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they never have you doing back extensions right?
@Merriwood193 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an eye-opener!! I am guilty as charged on most of those. And, not surprisingly, I do have back problems. Now my mantra is, if it doesn't feel good, don't do it! It would be great to have a "counter video" of healthy exercise alternatives to work the areas you covered in this video. Thanks for all the wonderful info. Love you guys!
@vitasphysio19413 жыл бұрын
There aren't any exercises that one should inherently avoid or not do. It all depends on many factors. Some of these can be great exercises when done with the appropriate volume and intensity of course depending on the individual as well. These examples give the impression that people should avoid moving their spines and are fragile when in fact the human body is remarkable and very adaptable and resilient under decent circumstances.
@anelimTS Жыл бұрын
thanks for that input, i've been reading through the comments and was thinking the same thing. it's so important not to cause fear avoidance behavior in people, but actually educate them about the importance of conditioning and gradual increase in load and intensity! our spines and our bodies in general are made to move in all directions and the tissues are able to adapt to stressors!
@jeffwendorf170 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@maksun66883 Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing. also, if twisting the spine is bad, then yogis and dancers would be having the worst back pain by I've never heard of that.
@bwinms16 жыл бұрын
Oh no, I'll need the alternatives, because I did most of these exercises.
@xxx0ox04 жыл бұрын
As a coach im glad I have agreed with all of these and haven't had anyone do any. Thanks guys!
@davidchiumeraable2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good, you should set-up a patreon so people can donate. You're handing out golden information that even "experts" get wrong routinely, please keep doing what you're doing, the service you provide is completely invaluable to the public.
@Carmen248603 жыл бұрын
So I think yoga has ended up ruining my lower back after years of forward folds, toe touching, planks oh dear. Cross fit gone too. It’s walking on a flat surface for me from now on.
@kristinehatkinson73233 жыл бұрын
Au contraire-- good instruction emphasizes protecting the lower spine. Now an RYT, I found many yoga postures were great for strengthening the area to protect a slipped disk. When I teach spinal twists, I first explain the anatomy with illustrations and the move (need to engage and lift first) before we try it. Plank...?? Maybe a collapsed side plank?
@kristic19183 жыл бұрын
I went back to the yoga studio last month after a year of only going a handful of times. I've been going 3x a week and have more aches and pains now, especially my lower back! It's so frustrating because I love it so much.
@nore81414 жыл бұрын
I understand now why 12 of the 15 exercises have caused more harm than good on my body. Great video and commentary.
@TheActiveAssault5 жыл бұрын
Thanks every PE class, Marine Corps PT, and college gym.
@koenvanhaeren6575 Жыл бұрын
I think you can do everything when you are young , and then any exercise is better than doing nothing . But once you reach age 50 you have to be careful . If I would have watched this video earlier it would have saved me a lot of troubles. I am 63 now. I love your videos Bob and Brad, they are very helpful , feel good and entertaining .
@atari460 Жыл бұрын
This is so funny, most of these are exercises I had to do in the Army. Every morning we did windmills as part of our warm up. Our fitness test required both full sit ups with someone supporting your feet and push ups that I definitely kept my arms outward for so I could do as many as possible. Must be why my back hurts so much now hahahaha
@solinvictus39 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I did all of these exercises in the USMC and once I hit my 40s I needed back surgery. Looking back, I have to wonder if all that stress put on my lumbar spine with 70+ pound rucks and these sort of exercises contributed to my back issues. Actually, I don't have to wonder, I'm pretty sure what I did in the Marines absolutely led to the back surgery.
@stevebelam2378 Жыл бұрын
15 years in the British Army (Infantry) We did the same ,now we're mostly in our 50's all broken and in constant pain with back knee and hip injuries .🤔
@solinvictus39 Жыл бұрын
@@stevebelam2378 I can only imagine how much it is costing our governments in veteran's benefits. But I'm sure it really isn't an issue for them as they have billions to send to Ukraine... I have noticed that the US military has significantly improved the boots and ergonomics of gear over the 30 years since I served. I'm sure all the back, hip, knee, and foot injuries of veterans had something to do with it.
@mcorleone776 жыл бұрын
I trust your guys more than those "fitness gurus" on other KZfaq channels !
@adijump6 жыл бұрын
As a physiotherapist who received my bachelors and 1 year training in this century: this is bullshit! These guys are so outdated.
@JorgenBockmanMahre6 жыл бұрын
I agree with adi here, don't trust these guys. They are just spreading baloney
@elizabethbennet47916 жыл бұрын
+ Jorgen how so? or are you just trolling
@brucciwaynemusic8765 жыл бұрын
Crazy I read your comment at the same time I heard these guys in the video say this
@kitasofia5 жыл бұрын
adijump they received their PhD on physiotherapy... so I find your statement confusing.
@discolissa6666 жыл бұрын
so basically everyone over 40 needs to re learn how to work out correctly
@maybrad52605 жыл бұрын
discolissa666 you can say that again!
@JAMES-xk4os5 жыл бұрын
Basically... Yeah because you don't want to keep that up till you're 65.
@lionpulse5 жыл бұрын
damage is already done during younger age by doing bad excercises, its just that after 40 body starts to show the damage done
@IamMissPronounced5 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to! I'm 22 and I was taught all these exercises
@F28gaming5 жыл бұрын
Yes please help us understand right way to work out without hurting ur joints.
@jeffreygaudet16293 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob and Brad this video was really enlightening as I just realized most of those were the ones I would do. I really needed this video to show me how to save my back and it all makes perfect sense after watching this. To think that in middle and high school PE coaches would actually make everyone do several of these. No wonder people have back pains when they are older. Thanks for the great information to open our eyes to this. Love the videos!
@suescape4 жыл бұрын
Wow, so many of these I've been taught in fitness and Yoga trainings! Thanks for pointing these again and even though they may not hurt me, may be really bad for some people. Going to look for your alternative core strengtheners as so many of my students are weak in this area.
@chuckkolb12706 жыл бұрын
Excellent information about stressing the back and shoulders and knees. Would you consider a vid on poses to avoid in yoga? Most asanas are appropriate but some twists and limbs raises create questions for me. Thanks.
@hailhummus6 жыл бұрын
Chuck Kolb I think the difference between a yoga twist and the "windmill" they're talking about is that a good yoga twist should have proper alignment, where it's almost pure rotation. Boat pose too - if your core isn't strong enough to keep a neutral spine and good alignment, you should do the easier version
@IamMissPronounced5 жыл бұрын
@@hailhummus yes! They even said boat is bad for your back in another video, but if you are able to keep proper alignment it doesn't have to be risky
@jenm90275 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! And some of the inversions are horrible for your neck.
@andreadeagon23015 жыл бұрын
Same thing with dance. There are a lot of movements that you have to do with perfect alignment, and most people who aren’t dancers or who don’t do yoga don’t have nearly enough instruction on how to align and extend rather than compress when you do side stretch/ strengthening movement & positions. I spend about 1/4 of my beginning dance classes (for adults) on getting properly aligned in the movements, especially extensions.
@sara_wolk2 жыл бұрын
Right!Headstands wrecked my neck.
@TheNesbittExperience6 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I watch peeps doing these at the gym and just can’t believe my eyes! (Some times it’s trainers who don’t know and that’s dangerous... just as Bob said)! Knowledge is power! You can’t workout if you’re injured I remind my clients. Every trainer should have a PT as a bestie!
@MemoTraining5 жыл бұрын
Show me one exercise in this video that is "dangerous" . Guess what ? there are none. Dangerous is crossing the road without looking, not body weight exercises. I can do these exercises in the video all day, and no pain. A lot of them are beneficial, like Upright rows and dips. They are only bad if done with such bad form, or in a way that might aggravate an existing injury.
@jamesdesantis94204 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing from your picture that you're a young guy (under 40), so of course you can do anything. Sooner or later your joints will wear out and you'll understand the wisdom of playing it safe, as Bob and Brad recommend.You'll be able to lift for many more years if you follow their advice!
@hollyperdue38083 жыл бұрын
That’ll you! This validates some of the feelings I’ve had towards a few of those exercises. They just hurt and I hate doing them so now I won’t ever do those ones again.
@somewhereinthemidwest9827 Жыл бұрын
Oh I totally agree. I did every one of those at a gym class for over four years. Now I have a terrible L4 and L5. Impinged shoulders. Lost the weight and could do a seven minute plank but now I pay. We did laps and mile runs on blacktop too. 🙄
@bestrnlynzeep6 жыл бұрын
I am an exercise enthusiast as well as a clinical nursing instructor and water aerobics teacher and I am floored to recall that ALL of the land aerobics/pilates instructions at my community rec. center have participants doing these. Most of our clientele is elderly so that's particularly worrisome. Do you guys have any suggestions for elderly folks stretching out in the pool? I teach in deep water dive tanks mostly but some shallow as well. Love your videos from a personal and Professional perspective; learn a lot and you guys are both VERY likable.
@BLACK05GO15 жыл бұрын
There are still a lot of people that recommend the bending over forward and touching to toes to strengthen the back. I used to do them a long time ago. They are terrible for your lower back. You're just asking for an L4/L5 disc bulge or herniation.
@marciab12794 жыл бұрын
And I do a lot of those in yoga
@maritza13952 жыл бұрын
I think this happenend to me, any thought on how to fix?
@junior295572 жыл бұрын
They said don’t bend and twist …. But is bending alone bad?
@abbsterlicious51862 жыл бұрын
@@junior29557 what I read was straighten back, slightly bend knees, then bend over. Basically bend over at your hips rather than leading with your head if that makes sense. That’s what I was doing
@Fuzzball Жыл бұрын
@@marciab1279 A forward fold is not bad. In fact, it can be very good for your back by stretching tight hamstrings. You should bend at your hips and a little spinal flexion is not a bad thing. The problem is people end up forcing the bend putting a lot of pressure on the back. Those without flexibility should modify by bending their knees.
@by_antony2 жыл бұрын
You guys are so entertaining. Thanks for these recommendations of exercises to avoid. I used to do some of them myself.
@shanotwalker3248 Жыл бұрын
So appreciate you both, clever, funny, and so right on the money.
@AJ-ri5ee6 жыл бұрын
This is literally a list of exercises from a military Physical Training program. Done almost all of those for Uncle Sam
@jupeter245 жыл бұрын
same as any american p.e. (phys ed) class
@chorusetcantus51094 жыл бұрын
@@jupeter24 Not just American. And the gyms.
@user-xg6zh1nv9n4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on an exercise program for 6 weeks and unfortunately have been doing so many of these! 😬 So happy I found your channel!
@bajuszpal1722 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr. Rowe and your Colleague, Special thanks for this warning for exercises, much of them I did in my younger age as part of body-building. Having seen your previous video on shoulder pain and lower back healing or treatnement, accept my great thanks for simple yet well-founded exercises How about compiling a series of Body-building like exercieses that would meet both muscle-buildingincreasing and simultaneousl body-saving requirements! Best regards. Paul, 66, retired instructor of martial arts.
@charlenegriffis59003 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the correct exercises and the ones to avoid. I had spinal stimulator put in lower back due to chemo damage. Everytime I see my surgeon he has me bend down and touch my toes to see what percentage of movement I have. I tell him let me warm up some first. Always heard that was bad for back.
@jonnocrap5 жыл бұрын
Crossfit people will be triggered by this video
@AvgJane195 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@v4extreme5 жыл бұрын
The advice given in this video is almost completely consistent with CrossFit coaching. I think the only major discrepancies were sit ups and pressing overhead.
@miguelbarahona66364 жыл бұрын
A fisiotherapist told me he loves people doing crossfit, "it´s good for the business", he said.
@filip81444 жыл бұрын
@@v4extreme And upright rows can be used as an accessory for your clean
@horvathbenedek35964 жыл бұрын
@@v4extreme A note - upright rows CAN be safe if you keep the elbows down, as opposed to flaring them up. That's what causes internal rotation. That's why cleans are relatively safe for the body as compared to the variation of the upright row presented here, even though you do them with a lot more weight.
@nicholegraeber25905 жыл бұрын
oh my I do some of these, stopping and finding healthier options. Thank you so much guys!
@midnightkitty8172 Жыл бұрын
Thank you gentlemen for teaching us this. I have done most of the exercises you mentioned and remember it not feeling right as I did them; now I know why.
@AaronCMounts Жыл бұрын
I am happy to say that I had rotated almost all of these out of my gym routine, months ago. However, this did teach me to alter my position and style for push-ups, so I'll be making that change and pressing forward.