Watched a lot of vids comparing these 2 so I knew the .22 would have more power but it seems overall due to bullet design the .17hmr is a bit more accurate . I prefer .22mag overall because you can also run it in a pistol.

There's no replacement for displacement. Love the 22mag, own 6 of em.

Both were pretty impressive at 100 yards.

17 doing exactly what it's designed for. Both great rounds. Suggestion, different weights in the same calibre

Ohhhh, GREAT topic/timing! When I 'Retired' my EDC, Ruger P85 (9mm for those who don't know), for the Ruger 57, ALL my neighbors thought I'd lost my mind. "THAT teensy-tiny little caliber, vs your 9mm?!" was their common retort. Then I showed them via every target-of-opportunity we could obtain (And the refrigerators with their assorted fruits/veggies AND meat (ty Mr. Harrell for that one!), suffered dearly!), up to real gelatin blocks, just how well the 5.7 performs. Got ahold of their Ruger LC Carbine, next, and that's even bettah! You gotta respect weight + velocity! (I'm eyeing a 17HMR for our various ground/tree varmints, next!) Thanks for taking the time (And investing all that time/money/energy) in making and sharing your videos!

Ohhhh man I love these 2 rounds 🤙🏽 can’t wait

First time I ever used a mouth blown predator call, brought in a red fox. Fox was facing me @ 20yds when that 40gr hollow point struck his throat & turned him a complete flip! Also took 2 coyotes with 22mag.

Be a good video even though my mind is made up, i have hit small game with a 22mag myself and seen a friend hit the same game with his HMR and the 22mag is more effective. The 17hmr is not as forgiving but still does the job, in the end each to thier own.

The 22WMR has more overall versatility. The 17HMR is more specialized for gophers, prairie dogs, and such. The 17 is safer where ricochet hazard might be a problem around livestock, homes, etc. Enjoyed the vid, thanks for sharing!

Nice that you’re doing extended ranges for these tests

I really like this post. I hav 2:21 e to say that I chose the 22wmr over the 17hmr. When I purchased my way into the 22wmr I chose the Rossi semiautomatic long barrel rifle. I have to say this is a great rifle very accurate and reliable. Just wanted to share this with you all. Oh yeah, I chose the Spear gold dot hollow point for my preferred choice for this peice. I can use it in my sa revolver and rifle as well.

Big fan of the 22 WMR. Mostly shot in convertible Ruger Single six revolvers and very recently got a Bear Creek Arsenal 22 Mag, 20" AR upper. A nice amount of punch for anchoring little critters. The 17 is cool that it gives up it's energy completely in small critters- pink mist....

Love your videos man

Iam impressed with both. Velocity VS energy . It's all about choosing the right tool for the job.

I wonder if 17 WSM would explode the block of clay?

The fact that the 17HMR did NOT exit the clay made me stop and think for a minute... I have an abundance of coyotes in my area, they were really cuttin' up tonight, so I wonder what your opinion might be about using the 17 HMR for coyotes and minimizing any collateral damage to any of my farm critters... Thanks

Definitely an awesome video great job on comparison. I’ve been wanting a 22 mag and that sealed the deal thanks.

Thanks for the comparisons. I appreciate that. I been teetering towards the mag. My pistol shoots the 35 gr vmax 22 mag quite well. 7 inch barrel. Great accuracy at 50 yards. A friend of mine switch from a 223 to 17hmr for groundhogs. Personally I wish the ammo God's would make some 17wsm. I'd prefer the 20gr bullet. I liked the 17 Rem I had with 30gr Bergers. Bottom line, going with the 22 mag and one those Anschutz.

I’ve always been a .22 mag guy. My friend opted for the .17. Your video proves once again that I am the smarter friend! 😂

You need to try the 20gr Game Point by CCI in 17HMR vs a 40gr Hollow Point in 22WMR, they will be the most similar in terms of terminal performance they're both designed to expand and penetrate where as most 17s are designed to go pop!

Well they both performed as designed, the 22WMR uses a heavier bullet construction and is probably the perfect 100 yard Coyote rifle and the 17HMR is designed to take the heads off small critters like Rabbits, Squirrels and Prairie Dogs. But both are deadly 😮

I've never been able to get a through-shot on groundhogs with the 17, but the fragmentation does the job very well.

“Every day at the range is a good day” - truer words were never spoken! Nice video.👍🏼

Sweet comparison!! Love those clay block videos!! 💥💥💥💥

I take the .22mag any day twice on Sunday

I want both! Fortunately we don't have to choose. : ) 22WMR has an advantage being chambered in a lot more types of firearms.

As far as a favorite I'd have to pick the 1 I own.. I bet you've already done a video on the different damage done to the clay blocks from the 17 hmr but you've peaked my interest because not only does it matter how accurate but it also matters as to how well the perform once they reach their target. I don't think I have any of the Remington stuff I'll have to look and then it not see if I can find some

Perfect demonstration of the difference between momentum and energy!!! The .22 mag has the former the .17 has the latter!!!

I have a .22WMR, so not getting the 17HMR. If I were starting anew, ammo availability and cost were be deciders, as well as ease of maintenence. That tiny barrel needs some special equipment, so 22 WMR would still my likely pick. Would think the 17 has a drop edge in the prairie dog town over the 22, but neither is a great wind bucker.

Awesome comparison! I wonder if the 22mag would have done better/worse as the normal 40 grain weight. 17hmr is more a surgical round vs. 22mag more destructive. Got any CCI TNT varieties?

Good demo again. Thank you Sir. Either or but liking the 22 mag a bit better.

I owned both a .22 Mag and a .17HMR at the same time. Both Marlin's. I WANTED so badly to love the 17. But test after test in my own back yard....... and hunt after hunt, the ol .22MAG just kept kicking its brass 😄 In the end, the .17HMR eventually found itself a new home. Another GREAT vid bro! 😎

Hello Mr. WHO_TEE_WHO another excellent video showing the difference in energy transfer down range. I tend to agree, close up hunting (inside 100 yards) either cartridge should perform about the same, in as much delivering a one shot kill. However, I believe that at 100yds + that .17HMR may give you a bit more accuracy on small game. That's due to it's lower BC and higher muzzle velocity. I always enjoy your videos keep it them coming please.

Good video. Depending what I want to hunt. Probably the 22 mag. Over the 17. 👍

Always been a fan of the .22 mag until ammo became hard to find. My old gun is stupid accurate with the Winchester fmj and hp. Finally broke down and got a .17 it doesn't matter what ammo i feed it! The 20 grain groups just a little lower. Starting to warm up to it.

Both did nice. Small game destroyers for sure. That 17 was blazing.

Excellent video WTW! I think the .17 is just too small vs the .22 mag. BTW, what is that holster that you're wearing in the video?

Cloudy days are actually the best days for the chronograph, because the light is diffused and even. Just don't put the sky screens on it when it's cloudy. Did you have to special order the CZ 457? I'd love to get one, but their website doesn't list any dealers in the US. Always cool when you shoot the clay blocks! Thanks for another great video!

Nice video the 17 could be good at pelt talking because only one hole and massive international damage.

Both are impressive for rim fire, but if I had to pick one, I would go with the .22mag.

Kel-Tec have stated that a 40 grain .22 WMR round should reach a velocity of 1230 fps from the 4.3″ barrel of their PMR-30 pistol. This works out to 134.40 ft/lbs of energy. This is a significantly less than the FN Five-seveN USG (4.75″ barrel), which can push a 40 grain bullet at 2009 fps. This works out to 358.57 ft/lbs! Nearly three times as powerful as the .22 WMR. This does not mean that the .22 WMR is not a good cartridge. It simply means that the 5.7mm is optimized to be fired from a pistol, rather than the slower burning .22 WMR loads which are designed to be fired from a rifle.

The seventeen h. m. r are zippy little buggers. Definitely one of my favorites. Interesting fact the twenty two magnum It's the smallest cartridge that you can take a white tail with in the state of Maine by law.. Isn't that crazy!

Thanks WTW. It’s the 22mag for me. Both did an awesome job on the clay.

.22 for punch for punch and 17 for speed. I like speed. Nice quick comparison. Cheers.

I have both, love them both, had 22mag 15 years longer so it's been around and done way more. I will die with it.

Great comparison. I'm 22 wmr over 17 hmr. The wife is opposing it. She just likes the style of riffle better than the old wood stock. Lol.

Like to see what the Hornaday 30 gr ballistic tip 22 mag would do. Grew up on 22 mag works on everything up to deer

I don't think the 22 magnum cartridge is correct. PR22M1's have a ballistic tip, not a hollow point.

22 WMR is the bomb! Thanks for your vids!

Might be nice to see the 22LR compared to these, hollow point and solid.

I like the magnums... Be they 22, 357, or 44...

Well damn, you just cost me several hundred dollars. Had to buy me a .22 mag to add to my collection. Great video!😊

I love the 22 mag alot better than the 17 because if the 17 hits a twig or anything it bust and u are not going to hit your target thanks and love your shows and im from wilkesboro NC my name is Dennis Church

I far prefer the WMR. What to do with the HMR?

very worthwhile but since they didnt splatter the blocks just use HALF whats left to make smaller blocks to show what itll do to a squirrel rather than rabbit

I have a marlin 22 mag with a very heavy barrel in stainless i bought for $210 back in 92. It has taken literally thousands of varmmit including jack rabbits fox coyotes pigs raccoon and exotics in west Texas. Has an old style red field tv view 3x9 scope that hasn’t been touched in 30 years. If i had only one gun to choose from out of my 35 or so guns this 22mag would be my choice. Been through everything and has never failed once or ever been knocked of sight. One heck of a good gun and a blast to shoot !

That was definitely a win for the .22 mag in my book. The entire .22 block was pushed outward compared to the .17 block. It looked like the internal cavity was larger overall with the .22 as well, but may have just been camera angle.

Never cared much for these “one vs the other” videos. I think they’re BOTH GREAT, and serve their own specific purpose. Thumbs 👍🏻 just the same.

It would be sweet to see ballistic gel behind the clay or at least a water jug to catch a bullet.

I’ve had them Both n gave my 17HMR TO MY SON, I’ll stick with my 22Mag everyday for what I use mine for !! Great Video WTW !! 👏👏

Since I don't own a 17HMR I pick the 22WMR as my favorite LOL. I do own a 17WSM and it is a great round. Would like to see you compare the 17WSM and the 17HMR on clay targets. I think I asked that some time ago but you didn't have a 17WSM. Thank you for these vids!

I have a cz457 in 22lr, running a Athlon scope and timney trigger. It will ragged hole at 50 yards with SK ammo. Went down the rabbit hole due to the Pursuit of Accuracy channel. Since my back yard range is only 50, its a great set up.

22 h r is still superior to the .17 but there fun the consistency of the 17 is probably better

I'm an old guy, and I just naturally dance with what brung me to the party , and I've been dancing with the 22 mag for a long time. Nothing wrong with the 17 but it's not mine

Great comparison, and now that we know that the 22 magnum will penetrate deeper, I knew it would, and I regret ever selling my 22mag, how’s about you do the same with the 22, but/and you put a couple water/milk jugs behind the clay to catch the boolot. Thanks for another great video Adam ❤️ from Canada

22 win mag for the win for sure… awesome penetration.

These two calibres have people divided on which is better, personally I prefer the .22mag

Thanks for doing this test at distance.

The CZ Rifle is awesome! I am sure that contributes to it’s power!

I like the clay blocks. 🙂🙂🙂

My favorite!!! Clay Blocks!!!

Great video. Thanks.

Thanks for another cool video. If you ever run across a 17 wsm you should grab it Fastest and most powerful rimfire made.

As a man who owns multiple .22s .22l .22lr and .17hmr. The .22mag wins in knockdown power within 100 yards.

Always love 22 - anything. Ingrained from my childhood. Lol

I chose 22WMR precisely because of this!

That was a great video. Could you try the 22 mag vs the 17 wsm? I'd love to see the difference before I buy one. Thanks

💯👍!

Cool shoot and thanks !

I enjoy your vids and liked this comparison. I would enjoy seeing the same, but including the 5mm Remington Magnum rimfire. I have been shooting one for years and in my opinion and experience, the 5mm far exceeds the ability of the 17 and 22 WMR. I look forward to the video! Keep up the great work!

Depending on what you are wanting out of any bullet you are firing. Look at this, the 17hmr used 100% of it energy in that block. Sometimes that’s what you want.

Dam, .22 mag, but .17 is great also!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!

22 mag for coyotes, 17 hmr for squirrels, and both for a fun day plinking with the family. Each cartridges have a valid purpose but both are just a lot fun.

Pretty cool 👍 😎 👌

Anyone else think it would be a great video if there was a pound of Tannerite hidden in a random clay block?

Would like to see you do the. 17wsm v. 17hmr on the clay blocks

Tanks for the comparison

Cool video. I'm a 22 mag fan and I think it's the clear winner of this match. The 17 hmr had a good showing though.

Thanks for comparing comparable ammo on this video! 22 rem mag is still king! Imo.

I think it’s a conspiracy lol I was surprised by the results seeing the HR17 was so much faster .

I prefer 22mag my self loved this video my man blowing shit up again dude

22 magnum has to much energy versus the 17 hmr, 22 mag wins

I have both, but I think I like the 22WMR more so than the 17HMR. I guess it is because I like the large calibure rounds, lol. Thanks for sharing.

Love Both Rounds

Thanks for the info. I already have a 22 mag. Know I don't really see the need for the 17. Thanks again

Love them all plus you can carry a lot of ammo if needed to

Use 17 hmr fmj and then compare to 22 mag. You might get surprised. By the way I have the same 17 hmr

Both are good varmint rds but i like heavier

22mag hands down

Before the shots go off.? The 17 is fast, but only 17g. The 22 is almost 2000 and 32g. I'm going with the 22. It's not try to go through armor. Like the 45 I think it will do more damage. Don't get me wrong I'm a 10mm guy. Love that round. Thank you sir for the video it made me think and is putting a smile on my face.